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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:

Middas Betancore wrote:

Confused as to what's go or not on caldari...their ships are birds and animals

Where we supposed to be going on this?

So far caldari generally favors things that fly to which makes sense considering the spaceships also fly. It would not be a long shot for ground vehicles to be named after things that occupy that space. They have affinity for snakes, birds, and dip into species of mythological animals particularly ones that do not belong to specific deities and are just there part of the natural or mythological world. Humanoid creatures are often avoided for the most part so far.

Also mind you the caldari name things after their 'modern' animals. A kitsune for example is a snake found on achuran homeworld that uses hypnosis on its prey similar to cuttlefish though unfortunately there is no list of animals readily available. This is probably why any mythological beings used in caldari line up has to be a species like deal. Chimeras, kitsune, Tengu, Roks, Drakes, Wyverns, Leviathans, Animals like Slephnir, 4 horses of the apocalypse,

Mythological animals of higher importance fall to gallente.

Why Japanese influence?

Same as the other races; has more to do with ancestry and how they managed to preserve SOME of the old culture. Achuran are descendants of the Japanese people and have ever since they joined the state have been a growing influence on the government and military affairs of whole.

Caldari Navy UNITS (ships still bear the class names) are often named after Japanese military units.

"This is the Usumgal boy, the exalted dragon, wreathed in the fires of heaven. He is a true symbol of God's majesty."

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Middas Betancore Mantodea MC 413	Posted - 2015.01.26 12:42:00 - [91] - Quote Possible Caldari Vehicle names, keeping it simple I've simply gone for more names of animals One could translate into the Japanese names for certain animals which I may edit in later I've also wanted to keep it to ground animals as opposed to mostly bird/flying names for ships Id also like to see more legendary animal names for proto vehicles Not sure also if my structuring is correct But here's some ideas Lavs- MLT- Bison STD- Kodiak Logi- Tarantula Scout-Ferret, Harrier HAV- MLT- Ocelot STD- Wolverine UHAV- Rhino DHAV- Tiger Dropships- Cobra, Anaconda MCC- Kraken, Hydra (probably more gallente) Work in progress, will edit, probably try and add more east Asian animals Let me know thoughts and if I've got the structure wrong "Deploy the gas, we'll burn what's left"- Redacted
MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 2007	Posted - 2015.01.26 17:11:00 - [92] - Quote Minmatar names: Some of these I'll have to defer to our resident expert CCP Rattati. I'm snatching a some of these from Icelandic language and norse myth. In general MLT LAV: Badger STD LAV: Wolverine Scout LAV: Weasel Logistics LAV: Saehrimnir Tried to base these off of animals. The logi LAV is based off of a mythical boar that would be butchered to feed the einherjar daily but always was whole the next day. MLT HAV: Lif (the first man in norse myth) STD HAV: Duergar ADV HAV: Svartalfr PRO HAV: Troll (could use replacing with a more suitable or better translated word - it does appear in norse mythology but it's used to refer to Jotunns, though almost as 'lessers') Solo HAV STD/ADV/PRO (uses same names as normal tanks, with some secondary identifier to them Ak2/Gk2/Ck2/Mk2?) STD DHAV: Mjolnir STD UHAV: Jotunn Theme was manlike creatures of norse myth to them. DHAV was the only exception as it was used to slay giants MLT DS: Breeze STD DS: Gust Logistics DS: Valkyrie (This one is already used in eve, and is intended to be used again for eve:valkyrie, but I cant think of a more appropriate name for the logistics dropship) Assault DS: Blizzard Tried to base these off of winds/weather. Valkyrie breaks the theme established, willing to take suggestions on it MCC: ??? RDV: Var Warbarge: ??? Not a perfect list, more than willing to take suggestions on a number of things here. Dropships and LAV's could be better, fairly happy with the HAV's. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
MetalWolf-Cell ROGUE RELICS VP Gaming Alliance 29	Posted - 2015.01.26 19:24:00 - [93] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: MetalWolf-Cell wrote: My Names For HAVs Caldari PRO HAV - Xanthus - one of the immortal horses of Achilles Caldari PRO DHAV - Lamia - Demons that prey on children Caldari ADV HAV - Abarimon - Savage humanoid with backward feet Caldari ADV DHAV - Batsu - Chinese drought spirit Caldari STD DHAV - Canaima - Were-Jaguar Amarr PRO HAV - Ladon - A dragon guarding the golden apples Amarr PRO DHAV - Apollyon - A place of Destruction Amaar ADV HAV - Cherubim - Angelic Beings Amarr ADV DHAV - Mara - Female night demon Amarr STD HAV - Orobas - An Honest oracle classified as a demon Amarr STD DHAV - Upinis - A river spirit Gallente PRO HAV - Sarimanok - Bird of good Fortune Gallente PRO DHAV - Cerastes - Flexible horned snake Gallente ADV HAV - Geryon - A giant with 3 heads, 6 arms, and 3 torsos Gallente ADV DHAV - Tritons - Human fish hybrid Gallente STD DHAV - Vrykolakas - Undead Wolf-Human Minmatar PRO HAV - Svalinn - A shield that stands before the suns to prevent earth from burning Minmatar PRO DHAV - Bennu - A bird equivalent to the phoenix Minmatar ADV HAV - Einherjar - Spirit of brave warriors Minmatar ADV DHAV - Habrok - The greatest Hawk to live Minmatar STD HAV - Hypnalis - A snake that kills it's victims when they are asleep Minmatar STD DHAV - Jinn - Spiritual creatures Lots of these are entirely for the wrong factions. :( Ill just stick to Caldari vehicles then. Those were just brainstorming names. STD HAV - Armadillo DHAV - Barracuda UHAV - Buffalo STD LAV - Serval (Cat) Scout LAV - Gazelle Logi LAV - Mule MLT Lav - Lemur STD Dropship - Pelican Assault Dropship - Albatross - Large sea Bird Logi Dropship - Hummingbird Bomber Dropship (Just a possibility) - Nightingale DUST 514/LEGION
MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 2012	Posted - 2015.01.26 19:36:00 - [94] - Quote ^none of those are really caldari. Animal names are more of a minmatar thing. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
Middas Betancore Mantodea MC 413	Posted - 2015.01.26 19:45:00 - [95] - Quote Confused as to what's go or not on caldari...their ships are birds and animals Where we supposed to be going on this? "Deploy the gas, we'll burn what's left"- Redacted
MetalWolf-Cell ROGUE RELICS VP Gaming Alliance 29	Posted - 2015.01.26 20:11:00 - [96] - Quote STD HAV - Skua - (Common Sea Bird) DHAV - Shrike - (Predatory Birds) UHAV - Kingbird - (Large popular birds) STD LAV - Lark - ( Common ground birds) Scout LAV - Swift - (Very fast Bird) Logi LAV - Quail - (Type of ground bird) STD Dropship - Pelican Logi Dropship - Cardinal Assault Dropship - Albatross All of them bird names. Which is what Caldari name everything after. DUST 514/LEGION
Middas Betancore Mantodea MC 413	Posted - 2015.01.26 20:16:00 - [97] - Quote There's several Caldari ship names that are not birds...sooo...what we doin? "Deploy the gas, we'll burn what's left"- Redacted
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 16817	Posted - 2015.01.26 22:31:00 - [98] - Quote Middas Betancore wrote: There's several Caldari ship names that are not birds...sooo...what we doin? It's basically birds and certain kinds of mythological icons. Tengu Leviathan Cerberus Etc So IWS is basically accruing birds/avian titles and whatever japanese and mythological names he feels is appropriate. *"He spoke, and we made it so all worlds were one, all peoples were one, all faiths, creeds, and nationalities were one.
Middas Betancore Mantodea MC 413	Posted - 2015.01.26 22:56:00 - [99] - Quote It's tough I've been at it all day for caldari "Deploy the gas, we'll burn what's left"- Redacted
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 18488	Posted - 2015.01.27 01:21:00 - [100] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Middas Betancore wrote: There's several Caldari ship names that are not birds...sooo...what we doin? It's basically birds and certain kinds of mythological icons. Tengu Leviathan Cerberus Etc So IWS is basically accruing birds/avian titles and whatever japanese and mythological names he feels is appropriate. Tengu is often thought to take form of a crane. CPM 1 Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior \\= Prototype Forge Gun=// Unlocked

True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 16829	Posted - 2015.01.27 01:49:00 - [101] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: True Adamance wrote: Middas Betancore wrote: There's several Caldari ship names that are not birds...sooo...what we doin? It's basically birds and certain kinds of mythological icons. Tengu Leviathan Cerberus Etc So IWS is basically accruing birds/avian titles and whatever japanese and mythological names he feels is appropriate. Tengu is often thought to take form of a crane. They are also however a kind of Shinto God,Kami,Yokai whatever you want them to be. "This is the Usumgal boy, the exalted dragon, wreathed in the fires of heaven. He is a true symbol of God's majesty."
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 18488	Posted - 2015.01.27 02:18:00 - [102] - Quote Middas Betancore wrote: Confused as to what's go or not on caldari...their ships are birds and animals Where we supposed to be going on this? So far caldari generally favors things that fly to which makes sense considering the spaceships also fly. It would not be a long shot for ground vehicles to be named after things that occupy that space. They have affinity for snakes, birds, and dip into species of mythological animals particularly ones that do not belong to specific deities and are just there part of the natural or mythological world. Humanoid creatures are often avoided for the most part so far. Also mind you the caldari name things after their 'modern' animals. A kitsune for example is a snake found on achuran homeworld that uses hypnosis on its prey similar to cuttlefish though unfortunately there is no list of animals readily available. This is probably why any mythological beings used in caldari line up has to be a species like deal. Chimeras, kitsune, Tengu, Roks, Drakes, Wyverns, Leviathans, Animals like Slephnir, 4 horses of the apocalypse, Mythological animals of higher importance fall to gallente. Why Japanese influence? Same as the other races; has more to do with ancestry and how they managed to preserve SOME of the old culture. Achuran are descendants of the Japanese people and have ever since they joined the state have been a growing influence on the government and military affairs of whole. Caldari Navy UNITS (ships still bear the class names) are often named after Japanese military units. CPM 1 Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior \\= Prototype Forge Gun=// Unlocked
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 16829	Posted - 2015.01.27 02:59:00 - [103] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Middas Betancore wrote: Confused as to what's go or not on caldari...their ships are birds and animals Where we supposed to be going on this? So far caldari generally favors things that fly to which makes sense considering the spaceships also fly. It would not be a long shot for ground vehicles to be named after things that occupy that space. They have affinity for snakes, birds, and dip into species of mythological animals particularly ones that do not belong to specific deities and are just there part of the natural or mythological world. Humanoid creatures are often avoided for the most part so far. Also mind you the caldari name things after their 'modern' animals. A kitsune for example is a snake found on achuran homeworld that uses hypnosis on its prey similar to cuttlefish though unfortunately there is no list of animals readily available. This is probably why any mythological beings used in caldari line up has to be a species like deal. Chimeras, kitsune, Tengu, Roks, Drakes, Wyverns, Leviathans, Animals like Slephnir, 4 horses of the apocalypse, Mythological animals of higher importance fall to gallente. Why Japanese influence? Same as the other races; has more to do with ancestry and how they managed to preserve SOME of the old culture. Achuran are descendants of the Japanese people and have ever since they joined the state have been a growing influence on the government and military affairs of whole. Caldari Navy UNITS (ships still bear the class names) are often named after Japanese military units. I wouldn't say that considering how hard Sukuuvestaa was on them during the forceful occupation of the Achuran home world. Even in the State they are still very puritanical when it comes to their culture. I'd suggest the Achuran's are tolerated not necessarily welcomed. Though to be fair I havent read much lore on them. If you have some links or sourced relating to their culture let me know. "This is the Usumgal boy, the exalted dragon, wreathed in the fires of heaven. He is a true symbol of God's majesty."
PLAYSTTION Corrosive Synergy 465	Posted - 2015.01.29 01:19:00 - [104] - Quote I want a tank named Ajax. Gallente solo HAV Ajax. It is greek mythology just like Iron Wolf Saber's Gallente suggestions. Imagine, PLAYSTTION (Ajax - 80J Blaster) CCP Rattati Gassault Calogi - Ranked #763 on the forums `- Open Beta Vet - 34mil sp - - Knifed 501stheadstrong`
MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 2055	Posted - 2015.02.01 00:49:00 - [105] - Quote Still working on stuff, just lacking in access to a pc to do/research a nice bunch of gal & cal names. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
Talos Vagheitan Ancient Exiles. 863	Posted - 2015.02.01 21:12:00 - [106] - Quote Hmm, great idea. I'd love to have one of my favorite vehicles stuffed and used as a decoration in my warbarge +1 Who cares what some sniper has to say
MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 2070	Posted - 2015.02.04 18:34:00 - [107] - Quote Caldari Names: Upon some looking I see quite a few names in the existing caldari list that work and work fairly well, but then I see other names that I'd rather have changed. Caldari tend to use a wide range of 'normal' animal names alongside mythical animal names. Links try to use websites that best describe some of the names/creatures I chose - I chose to err more along the 'mythical' lines as 'conventional' animals (in particular predatory animals are already used by minmatar, whereas venom ous creatures, ambush predators and birds are favored by caldari). MLT LAV: Blackbuck (formerly onikuma) STD LAV: Onager (changed from saga) Scout LAV: Pronghorn (formerly known as the callisto) Logistics LAV: Kirin (formerly known as the Charybdis) Unfortunately the previous names for all but the MLT LAV broke theme. I tried to go with animals that were 'fast' and 'equine' here. Onikuma was moved to be the MLT HAV. MLT HAV: Onikuma (current translation is 'demon-bear'. formerly Sica) STD HAV: Terrapin (formerly Gunnlogi. I wanted to use snapping turtle, but I didn't want to hyphenate the word or have it be the only name with a space present) ADV HAV: Python (was moved from ADS due to fitting theme better). PRO HAV: Komodo Caldari Solo HAV STD/ADV/PRO (uses same names as normal tanks, with some secondary identifier to them?) STD DHAV: Raiju (formerly Falchion) STD UHAV: Baku (formerly Sagaris) The caldari HAV lineup that we had in dust was thematically wrong, the names were far more in line with minmatar themes than with anything that could properly be associated with caldari. I tried to go with large, bulky predators that are known for making an efficient kill (even if it's a drawn out one), I opted against using 'crocodile' as it would be active and 'violent' enough to fall under the minmatar scheme... MLT DS: Viper STD DS: Nue (formerly known as the Myron) Logistics DS: Amaterasu (formerly known as the Eryx) Assault DS: Kamaitachi (formerly the python) second link goes into a bit more detail than first The Myron and the Eryx had to be renamed. While the python didn't need a renaming as much, I went with a name that I felt more accurately captured the role of an 'assault dropship'. The caldari have a penchant for taking Japanese mythological creatures and naming birds/snakes on their homeworlds after them. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
Middas Betancore Mantodea MC 432	Posted - 2015.02.04 19:32:00 - [108] - Quote Ya likes.. Normal animal names for regular models With more special/mythological names for specialist/role vehicles Like the beasts of burden theme for LAV Really like komodo as the pro hav And the 2 deity/spirit ideas for specialist tanks Will try an offer up other names along that structure if I find anything applicable "Deploy the gas, we'll burn what's left"- Redacted
MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 2071	Posted - 2015.02.04 19:38:00 - [109] - Quote ^viper for cal mlt ds could be replaced with something more appropriate, I had the brief thought of 'karasu' (Japanese crow). I went with raiju because of the light and noise from railguns (it still works if its missiles due to it being a 'thunder' beast). Baku was chosen for being kind of a chimerical elephant/tapir that's 'defensive' in its nature (and it scares off yokai in myth). Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
Middas Betancore Mantodea MC 433	Posted - 2015.02.04 19:57:00 - [110] - Quote Just found "Karura" a hindu-buddhist creature, half man half bird Could be ok for mlt DS "Deploy the gas, we'll burn what's left"- Redacted

MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 2072	Posted - 2015.02.04 20:32:00 - [111] - Quote Middas Betancore wrote: Just found "Karura" a hindu-buddhist creature, half man half bird Could be ok for mlt DS Maybe for the adv hav, some kind of crocodile? Python fits but was thinking of trying to scale it up from terrapins/xxxxxxx/komodo Perhaps Cayman? Keeping it large lizards/shelled reptiles The theme I was running with for the hav's was 'large durable reptiles that killed with one bite', the reasons I went against crocodile was partially because I disliked the name and partially because crocodile attacks are always super violent high energy affairs: the croc bursts out of the water clamps its jaws around its prey then drags them back into the water and drowns them. That explosive energy is very minmatar. Compare it to the other stuff: a snapping turtle (the name I would use if I could) lures its prey then bites it right in half. Pythons are constrictor snakes they get one good bite in then coil around their prey and crush it to death. Komodos have a bite that isn't venomous but does 'inject' anti-coagulants and all sorts of foul bacteria, it bites you once and you bleed, get sick and then die all while the giant lizard follows you, knowing it probably doesn't need to bite again. All are relatively 'low energy / low struggle' methods, the Komodo being by far the most predatory (a caldari virtue). Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
Middas Betancore Mantodea MC 433	Posted - 2015.02.04 20:38:00 - [112] - Quote I like it, can see u obviously didn't just wiki names....who would do that Will continue the search for anything applicable "Deploy the gas, we'll burn what's left"- Redacted
MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 2073	Posted - 2015.02.04 21:21:00 - [113] - Quote If we were going based on lethality of venom there's plenty of stuff that would trump the constrictors and the komodo, the problem with venom though is that generally you only get a few chances at it, whereas constrictors can just keep trying and the komodo's bite is pretty unique in that it doesn't really lose potency or need to wait to hit those minimum 'lethal' dosage levels again. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
Cat Merc Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 14900	Posted - 2015.02.05 06:02:00 - [114] - Quote Keshava will shoot squid with yes! Cat Merc for C¦¦P¦¦M¦¦9¦¦ CPM Nyan! *Vote 'Keshava' for the new Gallente vehicle name!*
MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 2084	Posted - 2015.02.05 17:56:00 - [115] - Quote Gallente Vehicle Names: This list will end up mostly using its current names, largely because the vast majority of them were 'correct' to begin with, a few replacements might occur if I cant pick out the original origin of a name or if the original didn't seem to have any connection with the gallente. MLT LAV: Baloch STD LAV: Methana Scout LAV: Abron Logistics LAV: Limbus From what I can tell, all of these are suitable though they're various ethnic groups and more than a few of them get away from the Mediterranean and into the africas / indias. MLT HAV: Soma STD HAV: Aspis(formerly madrugar - from what I could tell madrugar meant 'to get up early' in spanish) ADV HAV: Xiphos PRO HAV: Kataphrakt Gallente Solo HAV STD/ADV/PRO (uses same names as normal tanks, with some secondary identifier to them?) STD DHAV: Vayu STD UHAV: Surya Left most names intact. Soma doesn't really suit theme (it's a type of drink?). Names chosen were from ye ancient military hardware. MLT DS: Gorgon STD DS: Keshava (formerly Grimsnes) Logistics DS: Prometheus Assault DS: Incubus Was able to whip this up fairly quick due to not having to redo everything. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 18606	Posted - 2015.02.05 18:00:00 - [116] - Quote Should also note that some manufacuters favor a name style well at times generally expressed with the tech 2 ships of new eden so that could be something to use for your own naming schemes. I tried to update the big list but ran out of characters. well just have to have the entire thread available for feedback regardless. CPM 1 Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior \\= Prototype Forge Gun=// Unlocked
MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 2084	Posted - 2015.02.05 18:05:00 - [117] - Quote I wouldn't really think any of the vehicles fall into the 'tech two' category though, would they? If so I still don't believe they have designated manufacturers. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 18606	Posted - 2015.02.05 18:14:00 - [118] - Quote MINA Longstrike wrote: I wouldn't really think any of the vehicles fall into the 'tech two' category though, would they? If so I still don't believe they have designated manufacturers. They do not; Doesn't stop one from pretending there is a trend. CPM 1 Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior \\= Prototype Forge Gun=// Unlocked
Vektus Alvoraan WarRavens Capital Punishment. 49	Posted - 2015.02.05 18:19:00 - [119] - Quote Not really digging Keshava. Maybe Styx, or Icarus. Or Debby. DUST 514 Closed Beta Vet - Humble logibro, at your service.
MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 2105	Posted - 2015.02.06 19:52:00 - [120] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Should also note that some manufacuters favor a name style well at times generally expressed with the tech 2 ships of new eden so that could be something to use for your own naming schemes. I tried to update the big list but ran out of characters. well just have to have the entire thread available for feedback regardless. Out of curiosity could you list the trends between T2 manufacturer and naming style? Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.



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