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Iron Wolf Saber
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Posted - 2015.01.22 07:32:00 -
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Dear Community
I do know that we are in a state of doing many wonderful and new things; So while we are touching up on stuff we can maybe take a chance take a serious look at the names of some objects in Dust 514 and ensure consistency with the universe that it belongs in New Eden.
The opportunity to correct some naming conventions is coming pretty soon for a whole category within Dust 514. Vehicles and I invite all of you lore nuts to help out.
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2583382#post2583382 As mentioned here we going to be introducing a whole bunch of new toys and the sorts.
So in order to help out; I am gathering information for two things for suggestion.
1. Vehicle Progression Series Naming Convention
Similar to how Dropsuits are named with AK.0 A/1 and A-1 for progress; we need to ask the same question for vehicles when they are being introduced in a manner. Do we name them all different hulls or do we go the route of the drop suits or do we do something completely different?
Based on the Proposal by CCP Rattati as of 1/22/2015 the Gallente HAV line-up would look like this
Militia (MEDIUM) HAV - Soma (MBT) Standard HAV - Madrugar (MBT) Adv HAV - ??? (MBT) Proto HAV - ??? (MBT) Standard Solo HAV - ??? (MBT) Adv Solo HAV - ??? (MBT) Proto Solo HAV - ??? UHAV - Surya DHAV - Vayu
So how do we go about naming all of them?
A few suggestions include: -Unique Names to all Hulls -Series Naming, Solo HAV series gets a new name, Conventional G-1, G/1, Gk.0 to be used for series. -Dual Series, Solo HAV adopts Madrugar as its name but G-2, G/2, Gk.1 to be used for its series. or a suggestion of your own.
Then for our second part.
Naming the Vehicles; We have the following categories to start gathering names for
Caldari Ground Vehicles - is included on this list because they are all named after weapons a clear break away from normal caldari naming conventions throughout all of new eden. Names of caldari vessels often follow animal naming conventions in both reality and mythos.
1. LAV - Militia - Military 2. HAV - Militia - Military - DHAV - UHAV
Amarr Vehicles - (insert guideline)
1. LAV - Militia - Military 2. HAV - Militia - Military - DHAV - UHAV 3. DS - LDS - ADS
and finally Minmatar Vehicles - (insert guideline)
1. LAV - Militia - Military 2. HAV - Militia - Military - DHAV - UHAV 3. DS - LDS - ADS
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Iron Wolf Saber
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Posted - 2015.01.22 07:32:00 -
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Reference examples here.
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Iron Wolf Saber
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Posted - 2015.01.22 07:33:00 -
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Gathered Suggestions here.
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Alex-ZX
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Posted - 2015.01.22 07:53:00 -
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Minmatar names usually come from Nordic myth, animales, blades, natural disasters, war
I propose
Excalibur Gungnir (Odin's lance) Snake or howl Tsunami Earthquake
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Luis' modified VC-107 CR
Alex's modified VC-107 SMG* Owner of this beasts
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thehellisgoingon
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Posted - 2015.01.22 08:09:00 -
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I would rather ride in a:
Catfish BA-DONKADONK Shrew Porcupine Cheeseburger PAY2WIN 4x4 |
Nao Kun
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Posted - 2015.01.22 08:09:00 -
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Proto Gallente HAV... 'Naorugar'
other Amatelas
Susanoh
Japanese famous God's Name :)
I love Madrugar.
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MINA Longstrike
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Posted - 2015.01.22 08:25:00 -
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So jumping back to some of the data that galm fae and I came up with for the 'loyalty rank names' thread and linguistic influences
Caldari = Japanese influences Gallente = Greek influences (chaotic beings) Amarr = Abrahamic language influences, though latin names end up being favored because charlegmange. Minmatar = Norse language influences.
For caldari I would suggest Raiju (lightning-beast), Nue (Japanese chimera). For minmatar I'd suggest names of norse dragons, giants, animals or spirits. Jotunn, Fafner, Vaettr For gallente I'd suggest names of greek influence either focusing on armor, military or 'chaos' themes, so stuff like Kataphrakt (heavily armored cavalry), xiphos/kopis (Spartan short swords), Hoplon/Aspis (Spartan shield) For amarr it's a bit harder to pin, they like themes of light, fire, religion and judgement, or things that promote their own nobility. Words like Malik (king), Sarak (overseer), Batal (champion) would all be pretty appropriate, making their tanks all sound like kings of the battlefield.
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Iron Wolf Saber
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Posted - 2015.01.22 09:31:00 -
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I think there will be people who are fond of many of the Caldari ground vehicle names. However since they're not caldari in nature I say we give the names to where they're more appropriate. The Minmatar.
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True Adamance
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Posted - 2015.01.22 09:39:00 -
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MINA Longstrike wrote:So jumping back to some of the data that galm fae and I came up with for the 'loyalty rank names' thread and linguistic influences
Caldari = Japanese influences Gallente = Greek influences (chaotic beings) Amarr = Abrahamic language influences, though latin names end up being favored because charlegmange. Minmatar = Norse language influences.
For caldari I would suggest Raiju (lightning-beast), Nue (Japanese chimera). For minmatar I'd suggest names of norse dragons, giants, animals or spirits. Jotunn, Fafner, Vaettr For gallente I'd suggest names of greek influence either focusing on armor, military or 'chaos' themes, so stuff like Kataphrakt (heavily armored cavalry), xiphos/kopis (Spartan short swords), Hoplon/Aspis (Spartan shield) For amarr it's a bit harder to pin, they like themes of light, fire, religion and judgement, or things that promote their own nobility. Words like Malik (king), Sarak (overseer), Batal (champion) would all be pretty appropriate, making their tanks all sound like kings of the battlefield. The Assyrian term Asir/ Ashir also means "overseer" with a direct relevance to the Gods. Specifically I one I found was Asur.
I like the term but I have a **** tonne of really similar sounding ones I am trying to work through.
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MINA Longstrike
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Posted - 2015.01.22 09:52:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:I think there will be people who are fond of many of the Caldari ground vehicle names. However since they're not caldari in nature I say we give the names to where they're more appropriate. The Minmatar.
Current caldari ones make me think of these 1-3
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Stupid Blueberry
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Posted - 2015.01.22 10:04:00 -
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Please do consider that the Nappani language (Caldari) is not just Japanese, it's Japanese and Finnish. Don't forget your double k's and your ou's.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu.
Haajakin Kalen.
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True Adamance
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Posted - 2015.01.22 10:06:00 -
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Stupid Blueberry wrote:Please do consider that the Nappani language (Caldari) is not just Japanese, it's Japanese and Finnish. Don't forget your double k's and your ou's.
You have a link to the Primer for the language Jaijii?
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Iron Wolf Saber
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Posted - 2015.01.22 10:08:00 -
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Stupid Blueberry wrote:Please do consider that the Nappani language (Caldari) is not just Japanese, it's Japanese and Finnish. Don't forget your double k's and your ou's.
Caldari ancestry harkens to americans and japanese. The Achruan people has lately been gaining influence.
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Jebus McKing
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Posted - 2015.01.22 10:12:00 -
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One of the minmatar tanks obviously has to be named
QUAKE
That is all.
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True Adamance
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Posted - 2015.01.22 10:16:00 -
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Jebus McKing wrote:One of the minmatar tanks obviously has to be named
QUAKE
That is all.
Not to argue but Quake is the name of a specific kind of Artillery Round.
Quake and Tremor. Those are possibly the rounds you main gun would be firing.
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MINA Longstrike
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Posted - 2015.01.22 10:19:00 -
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Stupid Blueberry wrote:Please do consider that the Nappani language (Caldari) is not just Japanese, it's Japanese and Finnish. Don't forget your double k's and your ou's.
I'm aware, the finnish influence isn't really all that present in a lot of non-personal naming conventions though. I also think that forcing Nappani on people wouldn't work well as there isn't much frame of reference for it.
I could probably write essays about what caldari culture is like (lots and lots of corporately arranged marriages and 'mixers' where records of psych profiles and everything like that find you your 'perfect' match - but only within your bloodline).
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Posted - 2015.01.22 11:01:00 -
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Hey IWS copy over the names for amarr/minmatar from my spreadsheet please. At work with no access.
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Iron Wolf Saber
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Posted - 2015.01.22 11:07:00 -
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Nao Kun wrote:Proto Gallente HAV... 'Naorugar'
other
Amatelas
Susanoh
Japanese famous God's Name :)
Oi,
Kun San,
Dare wo desu jin ka? Dono yo na ka?
Dobutus ka? dono yona shurui ka?
Domo gomen, Google warui hinshitsudearu - idina haji IWS half nippon.
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Iron Wolf Saber
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Posted - 2015.01.22 11:45:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:MINA Longstrike wrote:So jumping back to some of the data that galm fae and I came up with for the 'loyalty rank names' thread and linguistic influences
Caldari = Japanese influences Gallente = Greek influences (chaotic beings) Amarr = Abrahamic language influences, though latin names end up being favored because charlegmange. Minmatar = Norse language influences.
For caldari I would suggest Raiju (lightning-beast), Nue (Japanese chimera). For minmatar I'd suggest names of norse dragons, giants, animals or spirits. Jotunn, Fafner, Vaettr For gallente I'd suggest names of greek influence either focusing on armor, military or 'chaos' themes, so stuff like Kataphrakt (heavily armored cavalry), xiphos/kopis (Spartan short swords), Hoplon/Aspis (Spartan shield) For amarr it's a bit harder to pin, they like themes of light, fire, religion and judgement, or things that promote their own nobility. Words like Malik (king), Sarak (overseer), Batal (champion) would all be pretty appropriate, making their tanks all sound like kings of the battlefield. The Assyrian term Asir/ Ashir also means "overseer" with a direct relevance to the Gods. Specifically I one I found was Asur. As I mentioned in the other threads I could suggest something originating out the our own cultures that have developed in the deserts and arid regions of the world. Amarrish is displayed in many different forms from latin to script based like Arabic writings and such. I've also heard it described as something like Castillian or Judaic Spanish with influences from both Europe and the central east. Anshar/Anshur - which means "sky pivot" which is comprised of the terms An "heaven" and Shir/Shur "horizon" Kishar/Kishur - which means "earth pivot" or where the earth ends an is comprised of Ki "earth" and Shir/Shur "horizon" it also means "whole earth" Kur - Which means "great land", "great mountain", and referenced the Sumerian first "ever dragon" but also refers to the Underworld. An-Kur - which I simply refers to "great holy land", "great holy mountain", and "divine ever dragon" (as a fire belcher I thought this was fitting. Livyatan- the old Hebrew term for Leviathan Liwyatan- Tiberian for Leviathan meaning "coiled, snaking" Karkadan/ Kargadan/Kharga - which references and Arabic parallel to the unicorn which was violent and carnivorous and is often depicted as a rhinoceros Usumgal (Usumgalu) - Sumerian in origin meaning "great dragon" Musmahhu - Sumerian in origin meaning "exalted dragon" Marduk - Was a deity of the storms and an Usamgalu Thallath - referencing the ocean was a term used when describing something monstrous of the oceans. Sharur- is a legendary mace from Mesopotamian mythology with the ability to exorcise Shedu Shedu- Storm Demons from mythology I have more but I am trying to work through them all.
Have to watch out because everything babylonian and sumarian generally goes to Gallente instead of Amarr.
https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Anshar https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Sin
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Vulpes Dolosus
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Posted - 2015.01.22 12:16:00 -
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I'd like to request a Caldari Dropship renamed to the Jackdaw (a type of crow).
Mainly so I can use this gif when ever I kill someone with it.
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Posted - 2015.01.22 12:16:00 -
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I want Madrugar to be changed into Kataphrakt.
It sounds more threatning, and fits the name of a tank. That and Madrugar in spanish means to get up early in the morning. So I kinda laughed when I saw the Gallente's tank name when I first joined.
But if ADV and PRO hulls get to have their own name, I wouldn't mind if Kataphrakt goes into either one of them.
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Iron Wolf Saber
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Posted - 2015.01.22 12:22:00 -
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thehellisgoingon wrote:I would rather ride in a:
Catfish BA-DONKADONK Shrew Porcupine Cheeseburger PAY2WIN 4x4
Done
Hassar Nataraja Sorex Hellion Treif Midas
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Iron Wolf Saber
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Posted - 2015.01.22 12:23:00 -
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Buwaro Draemon wrote:I want Madrugar to be changed into Kataphrakt.
It sounds more threatning, and fits the name of a tank. That and Madrugar in spanish means to get up early in the morning. So I kinda laughed when I saw the Gallente's tank name when I first joined.
But if ADV and PRO hulls get to have their own name, I wouldn't mind if Kataphrakt goes into either one of them.
Rather save for the cold day in hell we get mtacs.
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Vulpes Dolosus
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Posted - 2015.01.22 12:28:00 -
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Also, some make ideas for Amarr:
Ramiel: Angel of thunder Adriel: Death and Destruction Ahriman: Destruction Barackiel: Lightning Cherub: Class of Angel Nuriel: Hailstorms Zeruel: Angel of Strength
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Posted - 2015.01.22 12:32:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Buwaro Draemon wrote:I want Madrugar to be changed into Kataphrakt.
It sounds more threatning, and fits the name of a tank. That and Madrugar in spanish means to get up early in the morning. So I kinda laughed when I saw the Gallente's tank name when I first joined.
But if ADV and PRO hulls get to have their own name, I wouldn't mind if Kataphrakt goes into either one of them. Rather save for the cold day in hell we get mtacs. Now you touched a feel there
But if (or whenever) we get MTACS, I believe it would be better to name the Gallente one after some beast like Ogre for example.
Tho if you are coming from the anime side, I see what you did there (For those that don't know Mechs in the anime Aldnoah.Zero are called Kataphrakts)
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Iron Wolf Saber
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Posted - 2015.01.22 12:36:00 -
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Buwaro Draemon wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Buwaro Draemon wrote:I want Madrugar to be changed into Kataphrakt.
It sounds more threatning, and fits the name of a tank. That and Madrugar in spanish means to get up early in the morning. So I kinda laughed when I saw the Gallente's tank name when I first joined.
But if ADV and PRO hulls get to have their own name, I wouldn't mind if Kataphrakt goes into either one of them. Rather save for the cold day in hell we get mtacs. Now you touched a feel there But if (or whenever) we get MTACS, I believe it would be better to name the Gallente one after some beast like Ogre for example. Tho if you are coming from the anime side, I see what you did there (For those that don't know Mechs in the anime Aldnoah.Zero are called Kataphrakts)
Its a sensible name considering that Kats are typically the calvary replacement (helicopters our current calvary are likely no longer as viable as the used to be in that war environment in where the highly lethal mecha running around.); the deployment of them and mobility they're used for out strips standard infantry and tank divisions immensely. I mean heck the main squad is called mustang in that anime.
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MINA Longstrike
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Posted - 2015.01.22 12:40:00 -
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Buwaro Draemon wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Buwaro Draemon wrote:I want Madrugar to be changed into Kataphrakt.
It sounds more threatning, and fits the name of a tank. That and Madrugar in spanish means to get up early in the morning. So I kinda laughed when I saw the Gallente's tank name when I first joined.
But if ADV and PRO hulls get to have their own name, I wouldn't mind if Kataphrakt goes into either one of them. Rather save for the cold day in hell we get mtacs. Now you touched a feel there But if (or whenever) we get MTACS, I believe it would be better to name the Gallente one after some beast like Ogre for example. Tho if you are coming from the anime side, I see what you did there (For those that don't know Mechs in the anime Aldnoah.Zero are called Kataphrakts)
Yep, fully aware, but Kataphrakt also means "Heavily Armored" (looked it up for a friend as he was watching Aldnoah). As for Mtacs, Gyges and Hecatonchire would be much better.
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Posted - 2015.01.22 12:43:00 -
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Seraph (ADS) - of the Angelic Host (Breakin Stuff) Elohim (LDS) - A name for a god (Breakin Stuff) Throne (Milita DS) - A place for a king (Breakin Stuff)
These are incorrect.
They are all angelic choirs.
You missed one.
Malakhim - generic word for angels. Literal translation: messengers.
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Posted - 2015.01.22 12:44:00 -
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MINA Longstrike wrote:Buwaro Draemon wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Buwaro Draemon wrote:I want Madrugar to be changed into Kataphrakt.
It sounds more threatning, and fits the name of a tank. That and Madrugar in spanish means to get up early in the morning. So I kinda laughed when I saw the Gallente's tank name when I first joined.
But if ADV and PRO hulls get to have their own name, I wouldn't mind if Kataphrakt goes into either one of them. Rather save for the cold day in hell we get mtacs. Now you touched a feel there But if (or whenever) we get MTACS, I believe it would be better to name the Gallente one after some beast like Ogre for example. Tho if you are coming from the anime side, I see what you did there (For those that don't know Mechs in the anime Aldnoah.Zero are called Kataphrakts) Yep, fully aware, but Kataphrakt also means "Heavily Armored" (looked it up for a friend as he was watching Aldnoah). As for Mtacs, Gyges and Hecatonchire would be much better.
Typhon, Echidna, Hetakonkhire, medusa, Euryale, Stheno
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Iron Wolf Saber
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Posted - 2015.01.22 12:52:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:Seraph (ADS) - of the Angelic Host (Breakin Stuff) Elohim (LDS) - A name for a god (Breakin Stuff) Throne (Milita DS) - A place for a king (Breakin Stuff)
These are incorrect.
They are all angelic choirs.
You missed one.
Malakhim - generic word for angels. Literal translation: messengers.
Sorry I was looking up the oldest existence or ancestry of the words for categorization and definitions.
Host/choir are synonymous for groups of angels.
Malik predates its dirrative Malakhim.
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