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True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 16752	Posted - 2015.01.22 09:39:00 - [1] - Quote MINA Longstrike wrote: So jumping back to some of the data that galm fae and I came up with for the 'loyalty rank names' thread and linguistic influences Caldari = Japanese influences Gallente = Greek influences (chaotic beings) Amarr = Abrahamic language influences, though latin names end up being favored because charlegmange. Minmatar = Norse language influences. For caldari I would suggest Raiju (lightning-beast), Nue (Japanese chimera). For minmatar I'd suggest names of norse dragons, giants, animals or spirits. Jotunn, Fafner, Vaettr For gallente I'd suggest names of greek influence either focusing on armor, military or 'chaos' themes, so stuff like Kataphrakt (heavily armored cavalry), xiphos/kopis (Spartan short swords), Hoplon/Aspis (Spartan shield) For amarr it's a bit harder to pin, they like themes of light, fire, religion and judgement, or things that promote their own nobility. Words like Malik (king), Sarak (overseer), Batal (champion) would all be pretty appropriate, making their tanks all sound like kings of the battlefield. The Assyrian term Asir/ Ashir also means "overseer" with a direct relevance to the Gods. Specifically I one I found was Asur. I like the term but I have a **** tonne of really similar sounding ones I am trying to work through. *"He spoke, and we made it so all worlds were one, all peoples were one, all faiths, creeds, and nationalities were one.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 16753	Posted - 2015.01.22 10:06:00 - [2] - Quote Stupid Blueberry wrote: Please do consider that the Nappani language (Caldari) is not just Japanese, it's Japanese and Finnish. Don't forget your double k's and your ou's. You have a link to the Primer for the language Jaijii? *"He spoke, and we made it so all worlds were one, all peoples were one, all faiths, creeds, and nationalities were one.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 16753	Posted - 2015.01.22 10:16:00 - [3] - Quote Jebus McKing wrote: One of the minmatar tanks obviously has to be named QUAKE That is all. Not to argue but Quake is the name of a specific kind of Artillery Round. Quake and Tremor. Those are possibly the rounds you main gun would be firing. *"He spoke, and we made it so all worlds were one, all peoples were one, all faiths, creeds, and nationalities were one.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 16779	Posted - 2015.01.22 23:46:00 - [4] - Quote I'm going to be stuck in a golden tank with very unimaginative names aren't I? *"He spoke, and we made it so all worlds were one, all peoples were one, all faiths, creeds, and nationalities were one.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 16803	Posted - 2015.01.25 21:23:00 - [5] - Quote MINA Longstrike wrote: Amarr names: I'm going to make a small break from conventional eve naming schemes in places and use names based on the best approximation of words that form amarr language if I can actually find translations. Some names will have a translated name beside them, others willl be underlined if they're could use some work in the department of thematic cohesion. MLT LAV: Pariah STD LAV: Mendicant Scout LAV: Ascetic Logistics LAV: Martyr Theme for LAV's is societal outcasts or outliers. Could maybe use some touching up here. ]MLT HAV: Lokem (Warrior) STD HAV: Sarak (Overseer) ADV HAV: Batal (Champion) PRO HAV: Malik (King) Amarr Solo HAV STD/ADV/PRO (uses same names as normal tanks, with some secondary identifier to them?) STD DHAV: Shofet (Judge) STD UHAV: Magen (Protector) Theme for HAV's is fairly generic 'We are better than you, and our indomitable will shall show it'. I like the untranslated names, but thematic cohesion / name selection is a bit sub-par when translated. MLT DS: Wisp STD DS: Djinn Logistics DS: Anzu or Enlil Assault DS: Ifreet Phone edit: will update later. Probably the hardest group to get strong thematic cohesion going. I really like Djinn, wisp is slightly less appropriate, ophan and seraph are completely incongruous with djinn & wisp. This section really needs work, if someone finds more suitable names for logi-ds and assault dropship, please post them. Amarr MCC: Proclaimer Amarr RDV: Herald Amarr Warbarge: Testament This took several hours to do, and I'm still not entirely happy with it, but I think its a great start, I'll try to get some sorted for other races in a bit. Have you considered using themes like "States of Enlightenment"/ "Religious States" in addition to your "Social Rank/Caste" themes? E.g- Arahant or Arhat refers to a state of being for "one who is worthy" which is the Hindu equivalent of Siddha "one who is accomplished. Or if you look into Jainism Arihant is the state before one becomes a Siddha (also apparently the same as arhat in Sanskrit which means "one who vanquishes enemies"). An Arihant is also sometimes called jina of "Conqueror" because they have over come the associated four internal conflicts. Ascetism is a part of the whole Janic (Janism) system of beliefs. Also Ahimsa refers to non-violence or the desire to do no harm. Dunno if that would appeal to your as a logisitics platform? *"He spoke, and we made it so all worlds were one, all peoples were one, all faiths, creeds, and nationalities were one.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 16817	Posted - 2015.01.26 22:31:00 - [6] - Quote Middas Betancore wrote: There's several Caldari ship names that are not birds...sooo...what we doin? It's basically birds and certain kinds of mythological icons. Tengu Leviathan Cerberus Etc So IWS is basically accruing birds/avian titles and whatever japanese and mythological names he feels is appropriate. *"He spoke, and we made it so all worlds were one, all peoples were one, all faiths, creeds, and nationalities were one.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 16829	Posted - 2015.01.27 01:49:00 - [7] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: True Adamance wrote: Middas Betancore wrote: There's several Caldari ship names that are not birds...sooo...what we doin? It's basically birds and certain kinds of mythological icons. Tengu Leviathan Cerberus Etc So IWS is basically accruing birds/avian titles and whatever japanese and mythological names he feels is appropriate. Tengu is often thought to take form of a crane. They are also however a kind of Shinto God,Kami,Yokai whatever you want them to be. "This is the Usumgal boy, the exalted dragon, wreathed in the fires of heaven. He is a true symbol of God's majesty."
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 16829	Posted - 2015.01.27 02:59:00 - [8] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Middas Betancore wrote: Confused as to what's go or not on caldari...their ships are birds and animals Where we supposed to be going on this? So far caldari generally favors things that fly to which makes sense considering the spaceships also fly. It would not be a long shot for ground vehicles to be named after things that occupy that space. They have affinity for snakes, birds, and dip into species of mythological animals particularly ones that do not belong to specific deities and are just there part of the natural or mythological world. Humanoid creatures are often avoided for the most part so far. Also mind you the caldari name things after their 'modern' animals. A kitsune for example is a snake found on achuran homeworld that uses hypnosis on its prey similar to cuttlefish though unfortunately there is no list of animals readily available. This is probably why any mythological beings used in caldari line up has to be a species like deal. Chimeras, kitsune, Tengu, Roks, Drakes, Wyverns, Leviathans, Animals like Slephnir, 4 horses of the apocalypse, Mythological animals of higher importance fall to gallente. Why Japanese influence? Same as the other races; has more to do with ancestry and how they managed to preserve SOME of the old culture. Achuran are descendants of the Japanese people and have ever since they joined the state have been a growing influence on the government and military affairs of whole. Caldari Navy UNITS (ships still bear the class names) are often named after Japanese military units. I wouldn't say that considering how hard Sukuuvestaa was on them during the forceful occupation of the Achuran home world. Even in the State they are still very puritanical when it comes to their culture. I'd suggest the Achuran's are tolerated not necessarily welcomed. Though to be fair I havent read much lore on them. If you have some links or sourced relating to their culture let me know. "This is the Usumgal boy, the exalted dragon, wreathed in the fires of heaven. He is a true symbol of God's majesty."
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 17038	Posted - 2015.02.09 19:54:00 - [9] - Quote MINA Longstrike wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Should also note that some manufacuters favor a name style well at times generally expressed with the tech 2 ships of new eden so that could be something to use for your own naming schemes. I tried to update the big list but ran out of characters. well just have to have the entire thread available for feedback regardless. Out of curiosity could you list the trends between T2 manufacturer and naming style? The Khanid use basically an inversion of the standard Amarrian naming style favouring negative variations as you well know. Carthum seem to go balls to the wall "PARAGON's OF RECLAMATION". Khanid Vengeance Anathema Malediction Heretic Sacrilege Curse and the Damnation Carthum Retribution Purifier Crusader Zealot Devoter Pilgrim Guardian Absolution Paladin "This is the Usumgal boy, the exalted dragon, wreathed in the fires of heaven. He is a true symbol of God's majesty."
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 17260	Posted - 2015.02.25 03:03:00 - [10] - Quote IWS would you accept for the Amarr vehicles names from the following two naming schemes - Ranks within a hierarchy ( Malik, Batal, etc) - States and or stages of Enlightenment (Ahriant, Ahimsa, etc) Last names I suggested you chose to appropriate and use for other purposes. "This is the Usumgal boy, the exalted dragon, wreathed in the fires of heaven. He is a true symbol of God's majesty."

True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 17310	Posted - 2015.02.26 20:04:00 - [11] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: True Adamance wrote: IWS would you accept for the Amarr vehicles names from the following two naming schemes - Ranks within a hierarchy ( Malik, Batal, etc) - States and or stages of Enlightenment (Ahriant, Ahimsa, etc) Last names I suggested you chose to appropriate and use for other purposes. I have no final say so on any of the names used on anything mind you I can pursue conventions and needs and with community support can try to get thing names specifically but final decision lies with Game Design. I mean will you list them as opposed to not listing them. Doesn't matter if they are selected or not. "This is the Usumgal boy, the exalted dragon, wreathed in the fires of heaven. He is a true symbol of God's majesty."
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 17489	Posted - 2015.03.06 00:13:00 - [12] - Quote I still maintain Ashir or Asir should be a name of the Amarr HAV. It does not refer to the name of a God its a term that refers to one being an Overseer with specific relevance to a position of religious authority in the name of various gods. Additionally Usumgal [Usumgallu] I stand by though unlike to meet the list as it is not the name of a God but the term used to describe a specific kind of deity. Depending on which sources you draw from it could either be a traditional fire breathing four legged dragon or a lion-eagle hybrid.... again not the name of a god just a specific aspect of mythology. "This is the Usumgal boy, the exalted dragon, wreathed in the fires of heaven. He is a true symbol of God's majesty."
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 17493	Posted - 2015.03.06 01:00:00 - [13] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Fizzer XCIV wrote: True Adamance wrote: I still maintain Ashir or Asir should be a name of the Amarr HAV. It does not refer to the name of a God its a term that refers to one being an Overseer with specific relevance to a position of religious authority in the name of various gods. Additionally Usumgal [Usumgallu] I stand by though unlike to meet the list as it is not the name of a God but the term used to describe a specific kind of deity. Depending on which sources you draw from it could either be a traditional fire breathing four legged dragon or a lion-eagle hybrid.... again not the name of a god just a specific aspect of mythology. How foes Ashir for with what an HAV is though? Wouldn't a word/name that means "overseer" be more fitting for something more... overseer-y. HAVs are vehicles of pure war. Ashir sounds like it would be a better name for a logistics vehicle of some sort. Perhaps Logistics Dropships when they return and we get AmDSs...? I feel we could follow the sword-based names we've given HAVs in the past(and the immenent Gladius) and call the Amarr HAV the Yataghan, which is a Turkish/Ottoman short saber with a forward curve. Amarr have never named anything after weapons though. Indeed though it seems to me the Amarr are fans of their ships have roles..... Going of Mina Longstike's theme of roles and the Amarrian predilection for being domineering/wanting to dominate/etc alongside their religious nature figured that something like an Overseer -Overseer of men in the name of god -Overseer of worship of the god -Overseer of the battlefield Would suit the Amarr well and fit in alongside existing terms in a similar theme. The other themes I am a big fan of is the States of Enlightenment one, and the Khanid Hexes/Curses/Ill Intent theme. "This is the Usumgal boy, the exalted dragon, wreathed in the fires of heaven. He is a true symbol of God's majesty."
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 17495	Posted - 2015.03.06 01:40:00 - [14] - Quote MINA Longstrike wrote: Fizzer XCIV wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Fizzer XCIV wrote: True Adamance wrote: I still maintain Ashir or Asir should be a name of the Amarr HAV. It does not refer to the name of a God its a term that refers to one being an Overseer with specific relevance to a position of religious authority in the name of various gods. Additionally Usumgal [Usumgallu] I stand by though unlike to meet the list as it is not the name of a God but the term used to describe a specific kind of deity. Depending on which sources you draw from it could either be a traditional fire breathing four legged dragon or a lion-eagle hybrid.... again not the name of a god just a specific aspect of mythology. How foes Ashir for with what an HAV is though? Wouldn't a word/name that means "overseer" be more fitting for something more... overseer-y. HAVs are vehicles of pure war. Ashir sounds like it would be a better name for a logistics vehicle of some sort. Perhaps Logistics Dropships when they return and we get AmDSs...? I feel we could follow the sword-based names we've given HAVs in the past(and the immenent Gladius) and call the Amarr HAV the Yataghan, which is a Turkish/Ottoman short saber with a forward curve. Amarr have never named anything after weapons though. Do you think that may be because they haven't had much opportunity to yet in Dust??? In EVE Caldari ships are named after birds, primarily, and that isn't the case in Dust. We have things like Marduk(a Babylonian god), Python(a snake), Myron(a Greek sculptor), Saga(a word for story or tale), Eryx(a Greek city)... ect. The Caldari are all over the place with their names, why can't the Amarr break the mold a little as well? The same naming conventions don't seem to apply for ground units as the ones for starships, which is completely reasonable. Just like how US military names their jets after birds of prey, but not their ground vehicles... Even the few currently named Amarrian items we have in Dust don't completely follow the vague and nonspecific religious naming. Dragon Scouts. Not religious at all, really. Opus Assault. (a son of Zues, which isn't vague or nonspecific) Fizzer, the current names of caldari stuff in dust currently are wrong. Greek stuff is aside from a small bit of the lai dai stuff in eve - aka manticore, Cerberus, basilisk, & maybe golem if you stretched it, almost entirely gallente: they have ships named Astarte, deimos, phobos, lachesis, arazu, erebus, myrmidon, ares, helios, enyo, keres, eris, hyperion, obelisk, moros, thanatos, nyx, anshar. That's three to roughly twenty as there are more that I suspect but am not sure of, the caldari aren't even in the **ing runnings for 'who has the most greek stuff' when compared to the gallente. I will repeat it again, you should not base anything off of the current caldari naming scheme dust side as it is wrong** parts of it being more gallente (the greek tie-ins), minmatar (weapons) or guristas (lizards/snakes). So yeah, animals / reptiles are the most 'authentic' there which is what we have in eve. Similarly we should try to find a close approximation to what the amarr currently have in dust for their groundside stuff, which might make part of my list 'wrong', so I tried to base it off language and 'roles'. I can somewhat agree the Dust side stuff doesn't absolutely need to adhere to the EVE side naming conventions...... but certainly should attempt to follow the general guidelines laid down. I simply like the name Usumgal for a couple of reasons but it boils down to one central concept. The Amarr love their fire, whats more synonymous with fire than a dragon, what's holier than a normal dragon, a divine one, where in mythology does one exists which may align with the depictions of language and culture the Amarr seem to have. Mesopotamia more specifically early mesopotamian [Akkadian] lore..... gallente get those gods however..... but the Usumgallu is not a God....... therefore as a large fire breather of great stature that is terrifying to behold and will sap the will from enemies who face it...... I think it is suitable. "This is the Usumgal boy, the exalted dragon, wreathed in the fires of heaven. He is a true symbol of God's majesty."
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 17499	Posted - 2015.03.06 02:29:00 - [15] - Quote Fizzer XCIV wrote: True Adamance wrote: I can somewhat agree the Dust side stuff doesn't absolutely need to adhere to the EVE side naming conventions...... but certainly should attempt to follow the general guidelines laid down. That's basically what I'm saying. There doesn't need to be the exact same naming conventions for terrestrial vehicles and spaceships. In fact, it would be silly if there were. Caldari HAVs named after birds? Minmatar vehicles named after storms? That just seems so fundamentally wrong. I just makes sense for there to be slightly different thematic naming for extremely differing groups of vehicles. But yeah, generally follow the same guidelines. >For the Amarr, keep the naming phonetically lore-friendly, and roughly religious. So keep them "Middle Eastern/Fertile Crecent" sounding. I'm going to suggest that maybe we could name them after old Emperors... that would be ludicrously lore-friendly. >For the Gallente, keep the names Greek. Real simple. >For the Caldari, keep them named after animals. I almost want to suggest fish based names for their vehicles, as birds names are just dumb outside of dropships. Fish just seem fitting for some reason... >There are a good amount of legendary Nordic weapons to name Minmatar stuff after... just a suggestion. Gungnir. Gram. Mjolnir. Tyrfing... Honestly..... GOD NO. Who in the name of Amarr wants to drive a Heideran or a Jamyl? "This is the Usumgal boy, the exalted dragon, wreathed in the fires of heaven. He is a true symbol of God's majesty."
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 17499	Posted - 2015.03.06 02:41:00 - [16] - Quote Fizzer XCIV wrote: True Adamance wrote: Fizzer XCIV wrote: True Adamance wrote: I can somewhat agree the Dust side stuff doesn't absolutely need to adhere to the EVE side naming conventions...... but certainly should attempt to follow the general guidelines laid down. That's basically what I'm saying. There doesn't need to be the exact same naming conventions for terrestrial vehicles and spaceships. In fact, it would be silly if there were. Caldari HAVs named after birds? Minmatar vehicles named after storms? That just seems so fundamentally wrong. I just makes sense for there to be slightly different thematic naming for extremely differing groups of vehicles. But yeah, generally follow the same guidelines. >For the Amarr, keep the naming phonetically lore-friendly, and roughly religious. So keep them "Middle Eastern/Fertile Crecent" sounding. I'm going to suggest that maybe we could name them after old Emperors... that would be ludicrously lore-friendly. >For the Gallente, keep the names Greek. Real simple. >For the Caldari, keep them named after animals. I almost want to suggest fish based names for their vehicles, as birds names are just dumb outside of dropships. Fish just seem fitting for some reason... >There are a good amount of legendary Nordic weapons to name Minmatar stuff after... just a suggestion. Gungnir. Gram. Mjolnir. Tyrfing... Honestly..... GOD NO. Who in the name of Amarr wants to drive a Heideran or a Jamyl? There's got to be a few decent sounding Imperial names... And if there isn't, we make some **** up! There are 1000s of years with of Amarrian culture that still hasn't been completely covered, and hundreds of Emperors we don't know the names of. Surely we can make up some awesome sounding names... And who would name something after after the current leader? That's just bad taste. You always name them in memory... No Jamyls will be driving around. Dano Gheinok, the founder of the Amarr religion, reign years unknown. Amash-Akura, the founder of the Empire, reign years unknown. Molok the Deceiver, an usurper, reign years unknown. [not a true emperor] Zaragram II, 21346 AD - 21460 AD. Damius III, 22462 AD - 22626 AD. Velenus IV, 22626 AD - 22729 AD. Heideran VII, 23041 AD - YC 105. Doriam II, YC 105 - YC 107. Dochuta Karsoth, YC 107 - YC 110. [usurper and Blood Raider filth] None strike me as particularly good tank names....plus the naming tanks after people is a murican thing. "This is the Usumgal boy, the exalted dragon, wreathed in the fires of heaven. He is a true symbol of God's majesty."
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 17793	Posted - 2015.03.22 21:59:00 - [17] - Quote Maximus Mobius wrote: Maximus Mobius wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Hecate and Jackdaw are now taken. Tech 3 dessies of the gallente federation and caldari state have taken these names. Sorry :( Im not saying to directly take names but look to other games for inspiration. My suggestion is red alert. Names like the sickle or tengu are applicable unless EVE already took all the honors Tengu is taken by the T3 Caldari Strategic Cruiser. Sickle to my knowledge is not. Shotel is also a similar name for the weaponised variant of the traditional farming tool. Raphael: I'm warning you. Do not leave me here. I will find you. Castiel: Maybe one day. Today you're my little bitch