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One Eyed King
Land of the BIind
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Posted - 2015.01.18 00:14:00 -
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Helghus Resther wrote:
This isn't an economy that actually has any function as a whole though, so why doesn't CCP just increase the battle payout and marketplace prices in Dust?
Because the game still has a lot of work to do, and this seems like one of the least important aspects of the game.
The only way they could really fix it like you wanted, is to create enough of a Dust/Eve link such that Eve players could decide the value of paying mercs that is balanced by the economic benefits those mercs provide and is offset by the other possible investments.
That would not only require a huge amount of work on the part of CCP with Dust, but also with regards to Eve, assuming they even wanted it.
That also assumes they could get the incentives just right, or else all you do is create a failed market.
Economics are complicated. Let them make a fun game first, then we can worry about this pet project.
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Helghus Resther
Heisen Republic
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Posted - 2015.01.18 00:37:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:Helghus Resther wrote:
This isn't an economy that actually has any function as a whole though, so why doesn't CCP just increase the battle payout and marketplace prices in Dust?
Because the game still has a lot of work to do, and this seems like one of the least important aspects of the game. The only way they could really fix it like you wanted, is to create enough of a Dust/Eve link such that Eve players could decide the value of paying mercs that is balanced by the economic benefits those mercs provide and is offset by the other possible investments. That would not only require a huge amount of work on the part of CCP with Dust, but also with regards to Eve, assuming they even wanted it. That also assumes they could get the incentives just right, or else all you do is create a failed market. Economics are complicated. Let them make a fun game first, then we can worry about this pet project.
-The only way they could really fix it is doing what Gyn and I have stated multiple times, multiply the income and assets numbers by x5 to x6, and increase the income range for Dust.
-The work process would take place entirely within Dust, so to making it safe to open up Dust's economy to Eve.
"Assuming they ever wanted it"
Assuming they wanted to actually implement one of their original selling points in the game, that they showed in multiple trailers. Nah, that would be silly.
" Let them make a fun game first, then we can worry about this pet project."
I think if what they were really trying to do was make this game fun, they've failed. Dust lies in an awkward position where there's barely any interaction between Eve and Dust, yet they won't make it a standalone game with fast pace mechanics, something that would attract many more people to play for fun.
This is the reason why I propose this; Obviously economic interaction between the two games is supposed to be there, and as it is there's not too much else going on that something like merging the economies can't be worked on.
You guys sit here and act like adding one new game mode, adding Minmatar and Amarr vehicles, nerfing and buffing certain weapons will make the game much better and more fun. It won't. Economic interaction means that not only do Dust players have a chance to rise greatly above their current income bracket, they can have an affect on the Eve players who have no reason to care about Dust's existence.
If CCP isn't going to do this, then they might as well turn it into Call of Duty in the future, because I know that would do MUCH better than Dust is right now.
If only more people were proactive like Rattati. The real problems would be addressed.
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Korvakon
Galactic Strategic Alliance
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Posted - 2015.01.18 00:54:00 -
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This should really happen
There might actually be some noticeable Eve interaction!
My account is Minmatar, my profile photo is Caldari. GG CCP
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Gyn Wallace
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2015.01.18 16:17:00 -
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Helghus Resther wrote:One Eyed King wrote:... Let them make a fun game first, then we can worry about this pet project. -The only way they could really fix it is doing what Gyn and I have stated multiple times, multiply the income and assets numbers by x5 to x6, and increase the income range for Dust. -The work process would take place entirely within Dust, so to making it safe to open up Dust's economy to Eve. "Assuming they ever wanted it" Assuming they wanted to actually implement one of their original selling points in the game, that they showed in multiple trailers. Nah, that would be silly.
Dust's fitting, skill system, 16v16 fights, and chatting with squad and corp mates entertain me; its already a fun game.
The real question is where does CCP get the best bang for its buck improving Dust/building Legion. What will provide CCP's income and our entertainment over the next three to five years? More racial variants, tweaks to the graphics, etc.... none of these improvements distinguish Dust or Legion from lots of other FPS type games. The fitting system is robust and excellent. But where Legion has the potential to outshine its competitors is exactly in the area of this "pet project." Improving the ease with which Eve pilots can actually hep their friends on the ground with orbitals would be HUGE. Enhancing the connection with Eve includes "sexy" bits like dropping orbitals but the foundational elements like economics are every bit as important if CCP wants to see its market share and profits improve.
Adding cooperative PvE to Dust or Legion is the only think I can think of that would outweigh the importance of enhancing the connection to Eve. No other economically feasible improvements have more potential for growing the player-base.
The Dust/Eve Isk Exchange Thread
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Helghus Resther
Heisen Republic
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Posted - 2015.01.18 18:02:00 -
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Quite sure a dev or two as well as some of the CPM have seen this thread, but why not bump it anyway?
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