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QuAfE SoTa
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.01.16 00:19:00 -
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Im guessing it will be a different color schemed scout suit with damage boost or some kind of bonuse that makes the turret better at what it does.... |
True Adamance
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Posted - 2015.01.16 00:23:00 -
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QuAfE SoTa wrote:Im guessing it will be a different color schemed scout suit with damage boost or some kind of bonuse that makes the turret better at what it does....
Could be anything.
Might make your character better mesh with the vehicle.
Since we have not actual knowledge of how pilots operate their tanks internally it's open to a lot of speculation. I like to think pilots establish a partial mental link with the vehicle through imputs into the dropsuit/implant.
If that was the case the Pilot suit could convey small bonuses to absolutely anything to do with the fundamental operation of the vehicle hull itself (not the turret)
- Horizontal Turret Traversal Speeds - Reload Speeds - Heat Build Up Reductions - Acceleration Boosts - Zoom
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QuAfE SoTa
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.01.16 00:26:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:QuAfE SoTa wrote:Im guessing it will be a different color schemed scout suit with damage boost or some kind of bonuse that makes the turret better at what it does.... Could be anything. Might make your character better mesh with the vehicle. Since we have not actual knowledge of how pilots operate their tanks internally it's open to a lot of speculation. I like to think pilots establish a partial mental link with the vehicle through imputs into the dropsuit/implant. If that was the case the Pilot suit could convey small bonuses to absolutely anything to do with the fundamental operation of the vehicle hull itself (not the turret) - Horizontal Turret Traversal Speeds - Reload Speeds - Heat Build Up Reductions - Acceleration Boosts - Etc Maybe only 2 sidearm slots
Im guessing some for a caldari pilot suit like Increased range and build up reduction |
Fizzer XCIV
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.01.16 00:27:00 -
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What color do you think pilot suits would be (if they ever get implemented)?
I'm imagining bright orange and white.
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The Noob Destroyer
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Posted - 2015.01.16 00:30:00 -
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QuAfE SoTa wrote:Im guessing it will be a different color schemed scout suit with damage boost or some kind of bonuse that makes the turret better at what it does.... You don't sound like a raging 12 yr old.... Definitely not the real sota....
Who's alt are you?!?
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QuAfE SoTa
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.01.16 00:32:00 -
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Fizzer XCIV wrote:What color do you think pilot suits would be (if they ever get implemented)? I'm imagining bright orange and white.
It shouldnt be that hard to implant
All they have to do is add a different color scheme
and bonuses to that turret and tank
All suit bonuses should have a CPU/PG reduction |
Lupus Wolf
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.01.16 00:33:00 -
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They'll probably make it so that unless you use the pilot suit, you'll fly/drive like crap.
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Bremen van Equis
BASTARDS OF BEDLAM
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Posted - 2015.01.16 00:33:00 -
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Pilot suits will have a reserve inertial damper. You heard it here first.
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Fizzer XCIV
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.01.16 00:36:00 -
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Lupus Wolf wrote:They'll probably make it so that unless you use the pilot suit, you'll fly/drive like crap. That might be one other the better ways of going about doing it actually.
Generally, just nerf vehicle responsiveness across the board. Make the pilot suit completely negate that nerf, as the role bonus.
The racial bonuses could be other things that actually provide a biff to vehicle gameplay. Stuff like what True said.
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QuAfE SoTa
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.01.16 00:37:00 -
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Pilot suits should be the only one with auto interia dampners with 2 side arm slots i dont know what they should do about the high and lows |
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True Adamance
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Posted - 2015.01.16 00:41:00 -
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QuAfE SoTa wrote:True Adamance wrote:QuAfE SoTa wrote:Im guessing it will be a different color schemed scout suit with damage boost or some kind of bonuse that makes the turret better at what it does.... Could be anything. Might make your character better mesh with the vehicle. Since we have not actual knowledge of how pilots operate their tanks internally it's open to a lot of speculation. I like to think pilots establish a partial mental link with the vehicle through imputs into the dropsuit/implant. If that was the case the Pilot suit could convey small bonuses to absolutely anything to do with the fundamental operation of the vehicle hull itself (not the turret) - Horizontal Turret Traversal Speeds - Reload Speeds - Heat Build Up Reductions - Acceleration Boosts - Etc Maybe only 2 sidearm slots Im guessing some for a caldari pilot suit like Increased range and build up reduction
Yeah something like that. Something that gives pilots a Personal Defence Weapon, as well as equipment slots. But not Grenades or Light Weapons.
For the Caldari one it could be anything.
Slight Increase to zoom, Turret Traversal, Reload Speed. They'd all help slightly.
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Fizzer XCIV
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.01.16 00:44:00 -
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QuAfE SoTa wrote:Pilot suits should be the only one with auto interia dampners with 2 side arm slots i dont know what they should do about the high and lows
I don't see a reason for it to have highs or lows, tbh. Its not like it really needs them.
I say give it one sidearm. 2 equipment. **** HP. Like 100 HP total. High speed. Faster than a scout. No slots. Vehicle related bonuses.
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QuAfE SoTa
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.01.16 00:44:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:QuAfE SoTa wrote:True Adamance wrote:QuAfE SoTa wrote:Im guessing it will be a different color schemed scout suit with damage boost or some kind of bonuse that makes the turret better at what it does.... Could be anything. Might make your character better mesh with the vehicle. Since we have not actual knowledge of how pilots operate their tanks internally it's open to a lot of speculation. I like to think pilots establish a partial mental link with the vehicle through imputs into the dropsuit/implant. If that was the case the Pilot suit could convey small bonuses to absolutely anything to do with the fundamental operation of the vehicle hull itself (not the turret) - Horizontal Turret Traversal Speeds - Reload Speeds - Heat Build Up Reductions - Acceleration Boosts - Etc Maybe only 2 sidearm slots Im guessing some for a caldari pilot suit like Increased range and build up reduction Yeah something like that. Something that gives pilots a Personal Defence Weapon, as well as equipment slots. But not Grenades or Light Weapons. For the Caldari one it could be anything. Slight Increase to zoom, Turret Traversal, Reload Speed. They'd all help slightly. Reload speed and Turret Traversal should be a good bonuse for Missile turrets |
Fizzer XCIV
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.01.16 00:48:00 -
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QuAfE SoTa wrote:True Adamance wrote:QuAfE SoTa wrote:True Adamance wrote:QuAfE SoTa wrote:Im guessing it will be a different color schemed scout suit with damage boost or some kind of bonuse that makes the turret better at what it does.... Could be anything. Might make your character better mesh with the vehicle. Since we have not actual knowledge of how pilots operate their tanks internally it's open to a lot of speculation. I like to think pilots establish a partial mental link with the vehicle through imputs into the dropsuit/implant. If that was the case the Pilot suit could convey small bonuses to absolutely anything to do with the fundamental operation of the vehicle hull itself (not the turret) - Horizontal Turret Traversal Speeds - Reload Speeds - Heat Build Up Reductions - Acceleration Boosts - Etc Maybe only 2 sidearm slots Im guessing some for a caldari pilot suit like Increased range and build up reduction Yeah something like that. Something that gives pilots a Personal Defence Weapon, as well as equipment slots. But not Grenades or Light Weapons. For the Caldari one it could be anything. Slight Increase to zoom, Turret Traversal, Reload Speed. They'd all help slightly. Reload speed and Turret Traversal should be a good bonuse for Missile turrets Projectile speed maybe? That could be an interesting bonus...
What would large missiles be like if they traveled 50% faster? 100% faster?...
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QuAfE SoTa
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.01.16 00:49:00 -
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Fizzer XCIV wrote:QuAfE SoTa wrote:Pilot suits should be the only one with auto interia dampners with 2 side arm slots i dont know what they should do about the high and lows I don't see a reason for it to have highs or lows, tbh. Its not like it really needs them. I say give it one sidearm. 2 equipment. **** HP. Like 100 HP total. High speed. Faster than a scout. No slots. Vehicle related bonuses.
Ehhhh I dont see the point of equitment slots
They should be able to have slots and ZERO equitment slots and not faster than a scout....imagine a pilot suit thats faster than a minmatar assault......with a smg |
True Adamance
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Posted - 2015.01.16 00:51:00 -
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QuAfE SoTa wrote:Fizzer XCIV wrote:QuAfE SoTa wrote:Pilot suits should be the only one with auto interia dampners with 2 side arm slots i dont know what they should do about the high and lows I don't see a reason for it to have highs or lows, tbh. Its not like it really needs them. I say give it one sidearm. 2 equipment. **** HP. Like 100 HP total. High speed. Faster than a scout. No slots. Vehicle related bonuses. Ehhhh I dont see the point of equitment slots They should be able to have slots and ZERO equitment slots and not faster than a scout....imagine a pilot suit thats faster than a minmatar assault......with a smg
No other means of repair and you desperately need some buffer on it you hop out and rep your own tank.
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True Adamance
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Posted - 2015.01.16 00:53:00 -
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Fizzer XCIV wrote: Projectile speed maybe? That could be an interesting bonus...
What would large missiles be like if they traveled 50% faster? 100% faster?...
No changes to muzzle velocity should be instituted.
Missiles are already broken as ****..... there is literally no need for such an unbalancing skill modifier.
*"He spoke, and we made it so all worlds were one, all peoples were one, all faiths, creeds, and nationalities were one.
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QuAfE SoTa
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.01.16 00:54:00 -
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What would large missiles be like if they traveled 50% faster? 100% faster?...[/quote] Nah projectile speed would be for turrets like blasters......100% faster Large missiles would be scary.....
I plan on getting CCP Rattati or a CPM to take a look at this |
Fizzer XCIV
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.01.16 00:59:00 -
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QuAfE SoTa wrote:Fizzer XCIV wrote:QuAfE SoTa wrote:Pilot suits should be the only one with auto interia dampners with 2 side arm slots i dont know what they should do about the high and lows I don't see a reason for it to have highs or lows, tbh. Its not like it really needs them. I say give it one sidearm. 2 equipment. **** HP. Like 100 HP total. High speed. Faster than a scout. No slots. Vehicle related bonuses. Ehhhh I dont see the point of equitment slots They should be able to have slots and ZERO equitment slots and not faster than a scout....imagine a pilot suit thats faster than a minmatar assault......with a smg That's why 100 total HP. And no slots. Its built purely to run away. Actually fighting in this thing would be a death sentence, and the weapon is more of a formality really. It probably wouldn't even have enough CPU/PG to fit an ADV SMG and have room for a repair tool/scanner(which is what the equipment slots are intended for)
So like 60 CPU and 15 PG total. At Prototype. ADV has 1 equipment and 1 sidearm. (40 CPU/11 PG) STD just has a sidearm. (30CPU/7PG)
This suit is basically just an improved interface between the pilot and their vehicle. Like the pods in EVE. It has little to no defensive or offensive capabilities, no slots, and it dies if its shot. But its fast. Damn fast.
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QuAfE SoTa
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.01.16 00:59:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:QuAfE SoTa wrote:Fizzer XCIV wrote:QuAfE SoTa wrote:Pilot suits should be the only one with auto interia dampners with 2 side arm slots i dont know what they should do about the high and lows I don't see a reason for it to have highs or lows, tbh. Its not like it really needs them. I say give it one sidearm. 2 equipment. **** HP. Like 100 HP total. High speed. Faster than a scout. No slots. Vehicle related bonuses. Ehhhh I dont see the point of equitment slots They should be able to have slots and ZERO equitment slots and not faster than a scout....imagine a pilot suit thats faster than a minmatar assault......with a smg No other means of repair and you desperately need some buffer on it you hop out and rep your own tank. Well actually.....
Gallente Pilot suit bonuse
10% armor repair/10% blaster depression (to its race tank & turret)
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DAMIOS82
WarRavens Capital Punishment.
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Posted - 2015.01.16 01:05:00 -
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I personally think that unless your wearing a pilot suit, you should not be able to enter a vehicle, this way it makes you vulnerable outside the vehicle. Further pilot suits should be just the basic slots, you can survive in it out of the vehicle, but not overpowering, side arms only, maybe even double sidearms, no equipment and only bonuses to vehicles. Normal speed, normal HP. Better looking then all other suits, something smart, something that says, look at me overcompensating other area's... |
QuAfE SoTa
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.01.16 01:05:00 -
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Caldari bonuse should be faster reloads for missilies/longer ranges with railguns with a 10% shield bonuse |
QuAfE SoTa
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.01.16 01:17:00 -
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But overall this should come with some kind of lore.... |
Golden Day
Y.A.M.A.H
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Posted - 2015.01.16 01:23:00 -
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100% support
HAHAHAHA
Im not crazy......
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True Adamance
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Posted - 2015.01.16 01:23:00 -
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QuAfE SoTa wrote:Caldari bonuse should be faster reloads for missilies/longer ranges with railguns with a 10% shield bonuse
Those seem like a bit much for a simple dropsuit....... also the dropsuits don't necessarily have to be tied to a specific tank or turret.
For example we know the Gallente Pilot might be able to enhanced the sustained power output of vehicles due to a specific kind of algorithm that makes vehicle engine management more simple to process. This would affect all vehicles not just Gallentean ones increasing the top speed by 1% per level.
An Amarrian Pilot suit might be better able to modify the Turret Drive allowing the main gun on any vehicle it is stationed within track faster or adjust the heat output values of certain turrets when mounted.
No reason to limit the pilot suit to a specific kind of tank.
*"He spoke, and we made it so all worlds were one, all peoples were one, all faiths, creeds, and nationalities were one.
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Golden Day
Y.A.M.A.H
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Posted - 2015.01.16 01:28:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:QuAfE SoTa wrote:Caldari bonuse should be faster reloads for missilies/longer ranges with railguns with a 10% shield bonuse Those seem like a bit much for a simple dropsuit....... also the dropsuits don't necessarily have to be tied to a specific tank or turret. For example we know the Gallente Pilot might be able to enhanced the sustained power output of vehicles due to a specific kind of algorithm that makes vehicle engine management more simple to process. This would affect all vehicles not just Gallentean ones increasing the top speed by 1% per level. An Amarrian Pilot suit might be better able to modify the Turret Drive allowing the main gun on any vehicle it is stationed within track faster or adjust the heat output values of certain turrets when mounted. No reason to limit the pilot suit to a specific kind of tank.
I know i just find it weird not to connect it to its faction bonuse
What kind of lore you think it will/may have?
HAHAHAHA
Im not crazy......
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QuAfE SoTa
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.01.16 01:33:00 -
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Also pilot suits need some kind of implants like faster tracking speed |
True Adamance
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Posted - 2015.01.16 01:43:00 -
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Golden Day wrote:True Adamance wrote:QuAfE SoTa wrote:Caldari bonuse should be faster reloads for missilies/longer ranges with railguns with a 10% shield bonuse Those seem like a bit much for a simple dropsuit....... also the dropsuits don't necessarily have to be tied to a specific tank or turret. For example we know the Gallente Pilot might be able to enhanced the sustained power output of vehicles due to a specific kind of algorithm that makes vehicle engine management more simple to process. This would affect all vehicles not just Gallentean ones increasing the top speed by 1% per level. An Amarrian Pilot suit might be better able to modify the Turret Drive allowing the main gun on any vehicle it is stationed within track faster or adjust the heat output values of certain turrets when mounted. No reason to limit the pilot suit to a specific kind of tank. I know i just find it weird not to connect it to its faction bonuse What kind of lore you think it will/may have?
Well assuming a couple of things......
- Let's assume pilots until now have operated vehicles in a conventional fashion attempting to micromange all aspects of tank control manually. - Let's assume that after nearly two years of ground vehicle combat the Empires are updating their technologies to keep them cutting edge.
The pilot dropsuit and the clone that is fit to it is nothing more than a series of conductive layers and processors that aid the pilot in processing a number of the basic functions of the HAV through a neural connection in a similar manner to Capsuleer technology however without years of study and natural aptitude.
This aid rendered through to the pilot is achieved through a certain set of subroutines programmed into the suit's neural connectors that stems the flow of information entering the pilots mind and/or reciprocally is broadcasts updated and streamlined algorithims back to the vehicle systems as a whole increasing the efficiency of those specific functions.
Outside of the vehicle the Pilot suit is not suited for combat an its only saving grace is that it is light and does not encumber the pilot greatly.
Bear in mind faction bonuses in Dust have not always accurately captured the basic functions and attributes of each racial groups traits from EVE which has led a lot of people in Dust to make inaccurate assumptions about how specific racial groups tech functions.
For example
"Amarr are Dual Tankers"
WRONG. They are armour tankers first and foremost.
"Minmatar Speed Tank"
WRONG. They CAN speed tank. On average they have slightly faster ships than the other races but every race can Speed Tank. Minmatar just happen to be naturally good at it.
*"He spoke, and we made it so all worlds were one, all peoples were one, all faiths, creeds, and nationalities were one.
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QuAfE SoTa
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.01.16 01:47:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Golden Day wrote:True Adamance wrote:QuAfE SoTa wrote:Caldari bonuse should be faster reloads for missilies/longer ranges with railguns with a 10% shield bonuse Those seem like a bit much for a simple dropsuit....... also the dropsuits don't necessarily have to be tied to a specific tank or turret. For example we know the Gallente Pilot might be able to enhanced the sustained power output of vehicles due to a specific kind of algorithm that makes vehicle engine management more simple to process. This would affect all vehicles not just Gallentean ones increasing the top speed by 1% per level. An Amarrian Pilot suit might be better able to modify the Turret Drive allowing the main gun on any vehicle it is stationed within track faster or adjust the heat output values of certain turrets when mounted. No reason to limit the pilot suit to a specific kind of tank. I know i just find it weird not to connect it to its faction bonuse What kind of lore you think it will/may have? Well assuming a couple of things...... - Let's assume pilots until now have operated vehicles in a conventional fashion attempting to micromange all aspects of tank control manually. - Let's assume that after nearly two years of ground vehicle combat the Empires are updating their technologies to keep them cutting edge. The pilot dropsuit and the clone that is fit to it is nothing more than a series of conductive layers and processors that aid the pilot in processing a number of the basic functions of the HAV through a neural connection in a similar manner to Capsuleer technology however without years of study and natural aptitude. This aid rendered through to the pilot is achieved through a certain set of subroutines programmed into the suit's neural connectors that stems the flow of information entering the pilots mind and/or reciprocally is broadcasts updated and streamlined algorithims back to the vehicle systems as a whole increasing the efficiency of those specific functions. Outside of the vehicle the Pilot suit is not suited for combat an its only saving grace is that it is light and does not encumber the pilot greatly. Bear in mind faction bonuses in Dust have not always accurately captured the basic functions and attributes of each racial groups traits from EVE which has led a lot of people in Dust to make inaccurate assumptions about how specific racial groups tech functions. For example "Amarr are Dual Tankers" WRONG. They are armour tankers first and foremost. "Minmatar Speed Tank" WRONG. They CAN speed tank. On average they have slightly faster ships than the other races but every race can Speed Tank. Minmatar just happen to be naturally good at it. Only HAV's what about Assault dropships? they need some love! |
True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2015.01.16 01:49:00 -
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QuAfE SoTa wrote:True Adamance wrote:Golden Day wrote:True Adamance wrote:QuAfE SoTa wrote:Caldari bonuse should be faster reloads for missilies/longer ranges with railguns with a 10% shield bonuse Those seem like a bit much for a simple dropsuit....... also the dropsuits don't necessarily have to be tied to a specific tank or turret. For example we know the Gallente Pilot might be able to enhanced the sustained power output of vehicles due to a specific kind of algorithm that makes vehicle engine management more simple to process. This would affect all vehicles not just Gallentean ones increasing the top speed by 1% per level. An Amarrian Pilot suit might be better able to modify the Turret Drive allowing the main gun on any vehicle it is stationed within track faster or adjust the heat output values of certain turrets when mounted. No reason to limit the pilot suit to a specific kind of tank. I know i just find it weird not to connect it to its faction bonuse What kind of lore you think it will/may have? Well assuming a couple of things...... - Let's assume pilots until now have operated vehicles in a conventional fashion attempting to micromange all aspects of tank control manually. - Let's assume that after nearly two years of ground vehicle combat the Empires are updating their technologies to keep them cutting edge. The pilot dropsuit and the clone that is fit to it is nothing more than a series of conductive layers and processors that aid the pilot in processing a number of the basic functions of the HAV through a neural connection in a similar manner to Capsuleer technology however without years of study and natural aptitude. This aid rendered through to the pilot is achieved through a certain set of subroutines programmed into the suit's neural connectors that stems the flow of information entering the pilots mind and/or reciprocally is broadcasts updated and streamlined algorithims back to the vehicle systems as a whole increasing the efficiency of those specific functions. Outside of the vehicle the Pilot suit is not suited for combat an its only saving grace is that it is light and does not encumber the pilot greatly. Bear in mind faction bonuses in Dust have not always accurately captured the basic functions and attributes of each racial groups traits from EVE which has led a lot of people in Dust to make inaccurate assumptions about how specific racial groups tech functions. For example "Amarr are Dual Tankers" WRONG. They are armour tankers first and foremost. "Minmatar Speed Tank" WRONG. They CAN speed tank. On average they have slightly faster ships than the other races but every race can Speed Tank. Minmatar just happen to be naturally good at it. Only HAV's what about Assault dropships? they need some love!
That's my issue.
I have trouble talking about Dropships since I can't fly...... in any game......ever.......
Either-way as long as the bonuses converyed don't drastically alter turret damage or hull balance then there is not reason they should not exist....but arguably are incredibly low priority considering the state of vehicles.
*"He spoke, and we made it so all worlds were one, all peoples were one, all faiths, creeds, and nationalities were one.
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