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DrewEon
True Vengeance.
35
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Posted - 2015.01.12 14:01:00 -
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Everyone. Tanking with assualts. Tanking with heavies. Scouts with shotguns. That's all there is these days. And overpowered as can get assault rifles. DO SOMETHING CCP. What do you expect new players to do? Match making sucks, so they're for sure going to be put in with a bunch of photos running assault rifles and 800 armor on assaults. I myself have gotten to the point where I struggle to do well no matter what I run! Think about it CCP. Fix the game. And my scout. You've lost yet another player :) |
Assert Dominance
Ahrendee Mercenaries
742
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Posted - 2015.01.12 14:04:00 -
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ur doing something wrong. not hard to do well in this game no matter what fit u use if used correctly. oh yeah. send me ur isk pls.
LogicGäó
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John Psi
Vacuum Cleaner. LLC Steel Balls Alliance
1134
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Posted - 2015.01.12 14:07:00 -
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07
Please support fair play!
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WARxion ForDUST
G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance
311
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Posted - 2015.01.12 14:08:00 -
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\______/ <--- Before leaving please put your tears and ISK in here. Thanks.
But seriously, you just freshly came out from Academy with cheap and probably poorly fitted suits. Why do you expect to take out PRO suits 1on1? Especially with a Scout. You are twice as fast as a brick tanked Amarr Assault, ran away from them, put them an RE or attack them from behind.
Yes, I'm that desperate...
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Jack McReady
DUST University Ivy League
1750
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Posted - 2015.01.12 14:10:00 -
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DrewEon wrote:and 800 armor on assaults. and being as mobile and easy to hit as a giant rock
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Flint Beastgood III
Carbon 7 Iron Oxide.
1282
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Posted - 2015.01.12 14:11:00 -
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Ciao o7
Skills - https://www.facebook.com/notes/flint-beastgood-iii/list-of-trained-skills/416505058477164
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DrewEon
True Vengeance.
35
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Posted - 2015.01.12 14:12:00 -
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WARxion ForDUST wrote:\______/ <--- Before leaving please put your tears and ISK in here. Thanks.
But seriously, you just freshly came out from Academy with cheap and probably poorly fitted suits. Why do you expect to take out PRO suits 1on1? Especially with a Scout. You are twice as fast as a brick tanked Amarr Assault, ran away from them, put REs at their feet or attack them from behind. I've been playing for a lot longer than fresh out of academy genius. I've got a proto scout and adv assault. Its just too hard to do well anymore. My scout CK.0 with about 400hp can do crap against an assault rifle. |
DrewEon
True Vengeance.
35
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Posted - 2015.01.12 14:14:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:DrewEon wrote:and 800 armor on assaults. and being as mobile and easy to hit as a giant rock Did I mention the 30 armor rep/second? |
Jack McReady
DUST University Ivy League
1750
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Posted - 2015.01.12 14:15:00 -
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DrewEon wrote: I've been playing for a lot longer than fresh out of academy genius. I've got a proto scout and adv assault. Its just too hard to do well anymore. My scout CK.0 with about 400hp can do crap against an assault rifle.
assault rifle is an anti shield weapon
DrewEon wrote:Jack McReady wrote:DrewEon wrote:and 800 armor on assaults. and being as mobile and easy to hit as a giant rock Did I mention the 30 armor rep/second? please show me the assault fit that features 800 armor + 30 armor repair a second along with proper weapons and high slots |
DrewEon
True Vengeance.
35
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Posted - 2015.01.12 14:15:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:DrewEon wrote: I've been playing for a lot longer than fresh out of academy genius. I've got a proto scout and adv assault. Its just too hard to do well anymore. My scout CK.0 with about 400hp can do crap against an assault rifle.
assault rifle is an anti shield weapon No s*** sherlock - _ - |
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WARxion ForDUST
G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance
312
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Posted - 2015.01.12 14:16:00 -
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DrewEon wrote:WARxion ForDUST wrote:\______/ <--- Before leaving please put your tears and ISK in here. Thanks.
But seriously, you just freshly came out from Academy with cheap and probably poorly fitted suits. Why do you expect to take out PRO suits 1on1? Especially with a Scout. You are twice as fast as a brick tanked Amarr Assault, ran away from them, put REs at their feet or attack them from behind. I've been playing for a lot longer than fresh out of academy genius. I've got a proto scout and adv assault. Its just too hard to do well anymore. My scout CK.0 with about 400hp can do crap against an assault rifle.
Oh I'm sorry I tough you are a noob. But just another horrible FOTM chaser. Sorry.
Yes, I'm that desperate...
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WARxion ForDUST
G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance
312
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Posted - 2015.01.12 14:17:00 -
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DrewEon wrote:Jack McReady wrote:DrewEon wrote:and 800 armor on assaults. and being as mobile and easy to hit as a giant rock Did I mention the 30 armor rep/second?
And did you notice your 80HP/Sec Shield Recharge rate?
Yes, I'm that desperate...
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Jack McReady
DUST University Ivy League
1750
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Posted - 2015.01.12 14:18:00 -
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DrewEon wrote:Jack McReady wrote:DrewEon wrote: I've been playing for a lot longer than fresh out of academy genius. I've got a proto scout and adv assault. Its just too hard to do well anymore. My scout CK.0 with about 400hp can do crap against an assault rifle.
assault rifle is an anti shield weapon No s*** sherlock - _ - then dont complain. that is the price of FOTM chasing... other people adapt and wreck you. if you dont have another suit then how about you do what you are supposed to? aka skirmish hit and run instead of trying to be a scout assault |
Forlorn Destrier
Incorruptibles
3180
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Posted - 2015.01.12 14:20:00 -
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DrewEon wrote:Everyone. Tanking with assualts. Tanking with heavies. Scouts with shotguns. That's all there is these days. And overpowered as can get assault rifles. DO SOMETHING CCP. What do you expect new players to do? Match making sucks, so they're for sure going to be put in with a bunch of photos running assault rifles and 800 armor on assaults. I myself have gotten to the point where I struggle to do well no matter what I run! Think about it CCP. Fix the game. And my scout. You've lost yet another player :)
1. Lifetime KDR 4.30 2. Lifetime WLR 1.34 3. 7,731 kills
Yeah, you aren't doing well at all.
Also - you are complaining about them balancing the game - this is a good thing, as people actually perform at their skill level. You sound like you just have sour grapes.
Until you suggest a way to fix something you feel is wrong, there is no point to your complaining other than to hear yourself "talk" and to get attention.
I am the Forgotten Warhorse, a Lord of Lightning.
Havok, my Destiny.
I am Incorruptible
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WARxion ForDUST
G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance
313
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Posted - 2015.01.12 14:21:00 -
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Forlorn Destrier wrote:DrewEon wrote:Everyone. Tanking with assualts. Tanking with heavies. Scouts with shotguns. That's all there is these days. And overpowered as can get assault rifles. DO SOMETHING CCP. What do you expect new players to do? Match making sucks, so they're for sure going to be put in with a bunch of photos running assault rifles and 800 armor on assaults. I myself have gotten to the point where I struggle to do well no matter what I run! Think about it CCP. Fix the game. And my scout. You've lost yet another player :) 1. Lifetime KDR 4.30 2. Lifetime WLR 1.34 3. 7,731 kills Yeah, you aren't doing well at all. Also - you are complaining about them balancing the game - this is a good thing, as people actually perform at their skill level. You sound like you just have sour grapes. Until you suggest a way to fix something you feel is wrong, there is no point to your complaining other than to hear yourself "talk" and to get attention.
Oh lol my sides. OP is a 0/10 troll.
Yes, I'm that desperate...
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Bright Steel
Horizons' Edge
735
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Posted - 2015.01.12 14:25:00 -
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Assert Dominance wrote:ur doing something wrong. not hard to do well in this game no matter what fit u use if used correctly. oh yeah. send me ur isk pls. Not everyone has a ton of sp and experience with dust.
Great way to chase off players we desperately need to keep dust going.
Dust 514, the BEST WORST game you can't stop playing.
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Edau Skir2
Sebiestor Field Sappers Minmatar Republic
270
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Posted - 2015.01.12 14:28:00 -
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DrewEon wrote:Everyone. Tanking with assualts. Tanking with heavies. Scouts with shotguns. That's all there is these days. And overpowered as can get assault rifles. DO SOMETHING CCP. What do you expect new players to do? Match making sucks, so they're for sure going to be put in with a bunch of photos running assault rifles and 800 armor on assaults. I myself have gotten to the point where I struggle to do well no matter what I run! Think about it CCP. Fix the game. And my scout. You've lost yet another player :)
As a player who uses ADV weapons, and doesn't have a single non-basic suit at ADV, I can definitely say it's not that you're outmatched with fits. I kill my fair share of proto-stomping dbags, most of the time without issue. Be a faster and better shot, and it doesn't matter what they're using.
Resident pasty smasher
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taxi bastard
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
293
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Posted - 2015.01.12 14:37:00 -
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he has a point which your stupid if you can't see it.
the new player experience must be pretty awful, throwing yourself time after time against people with 3 times the EHP and 40 percent more damage than yourself must be rather crap. beyond that you need to learn what the game is all about aswell.
i am sure some clever person will come back with tactics ect - but its irrelevant the passive + gear gap is too great for the vast majority of people wanting to try out a new game. and no you did not have it this bad as the gap between the haves and have nots has never been so large.
ill always remember a chat i had after a PC battle where i got killed 5 times and killed the guy once a while back. he told me about play and counter play which i understood, but could not implement due to not have enough SP's so although it would have been great to change out weapons and or suits according to who your fighting it could not realistically be done effectively. it had taken me a year to have the SP's to be good at one thing.
the waiting times have reduced, i believe its got to the point where its viable and necessary to split the pubs into advanced and over and basic and bellow. it will make the game more enjoyable for most besides those who enjoy stomping 1 sided battles.
yes i know squads are the biggest force multiplier - but there is still a large difference if your in a basic or starter fit facing a squad vs a squad of proto. |
Bright Steel
Horizons' Edge
736
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Posted - 2015.01.12 14:47:00 -
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taxi bastard wrote:he has a point which your stupid if you can't see it.
the new player experience must be pretty awful, throwing yourself time after time against people with 3 times the EHP and 40 percent more damage than yourself must be rather crap. beyond that you need to learn what the game is all about aswell.
i am sure some clever person will come back with tactics ect - but its irrelevant the passive + gear gap is too great for the vast majority of people wanting to try out a new game. and no you did not have it this bad as the gap between the haves and have nots has never been so large.
ill always remember a chat i had after a PC battle where i got killed 5 times and killed the guy once a while back. he told me about play and counter play which i understood, but could not implement due to not have enough SP's so although it would have been great to change out weapons and or suits according to who your fighting it could not realistically be done effectively. it had taken me a year to have the SP's to be good at one thing.
the waiting times have reduced, i believe its got to the point where its viable and necessary to split the pubs into advanced and over and basic and bellow. it will make the game more enjoyable for most besides those who enjoy stomping 1 sided battles.
yes i know squads are the biggest force multiplier - but there is still a large difference if your in a basic or starter fit facing a squad vs a squad of proto. Eve online has high sec for new players to have "relative" safety from the free for all seen in low sec.
We need a high sec low rewards area for our new players and our not so new players that aren't good enough to tackle proto squads.
If you build it, they will come....
Side thought... What if we made one of our modes, thinking domination, high sec?
Dust 514, the BEST WORST game you can't stop playing.
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manboar thunder fist
Dead Man's Game RUST415
356
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Posted - 2015.01.12 14:50:00 -
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DrewEon wrote:WARxion ForDUST wrote:\______/ <--- Before leaving please put your tears and ISK in here. Thanks.
But seriously, you just freshly came out from Academy with cheap and probably poorly fitted suits. Why do you expect to take out PRO suits 1on1? Especially with a Scout. You are twice as fast as a brick tanked Amarr Assault, ran away from them, put REs at their feet or attack them from behind. I've been playing for a lot longer than fresh out of academy genius. I've got a proto scout and adv assault. Its just too hard to do well anymore. My scout CK.0 with about 400hp can do crap against an assault rifle.
Bit ironic, went 40-0 the other day with a dragonfly basic scout and rs-90 cr Just a matter of play style, don't force yourself into the slayer role
"If there is a strafe nerf in this game, remove hit detection"- manboar 2014
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DrewEon
True Vengeance.
35
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Posted - 2015.01.12 14:50:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:DrewEon wrote:Jack McReady wrote:DrewEon wrote: I've been playing for a lot longer than fresh out of academy genius. I've got a proto scout and adv assault. Its just too hard to do well anymore. My scout CK.0 with about 400hp can do crap against an assault rifle.
assault rifle is an anti shield weapon No s*** sherlock - _ - then dont complain. that is the price of FOTM chasing... other people adapt and wreck you. if you dont have another suit then how about you do what you are supposed to? aka skirmish hit and run instead of trying to be a scout assault I'm not a scout assault genius, I used to hit and run, but because I don't know where enemies are, I can't go to get someone and it turns out he's surrounded by flipping heavies! |
Jack McReady
DUST University Ivy League
1754
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Posted - 2015.01.12 14:52:00 -
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DrewEon wrote:Jack McReady wrote:DrewEon wrote:Jack McReady wrote:DrewEon wrote: I've been playing for a lot longer than fresh out of academy genius. I've got a proto scout and adv assault. Its just too hard to do well anymore. My scout CK.0 with about 400hp can do crap against an assault rifle.
assault rifle is an anti shield weapon No s*** sherlock - _ - then dont complain. that is the price of FOTM chasing... other people adapt and wreck you. if you dont have another suit then how about you do what you are supposed to? aka skirmish hit and run instead of trying to be a scout assault I'm not a scout assault genius, I used to hit and run, but because I don't know where enemies are, I can't go to get someone and it turns out he's surrounded by flipping heavies! 400 shield hp on cal scout and what you just wrote tells us a different story |
taxi bastard
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
294
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Posted - 2015.01.12 14:54:00 -
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Bright Steel wrote:taxi bastard wrote:he has a point which your stupid if you can't see it.
the new player experience must be pretty awful, throwing yourself time after time against people with 3 times the EHP and 40 percent more damage than yourself must be rather crap. beyond that you need to learn what the game is all about aswell.
i am sure some clever person will come back with tactics ect - but its irrelevant the passive + gear gap is too great for the vast majority of people wanting to try out a new game. and no you did not have it this bad as the gap between the haves and have nots has never been so large.
ill always remember a chat i had after a PC battle where i got killed 5 times and killed the guy once a while back. he told me about play and counter play which i understood, but could not implement due to not have enough SP's so although it would have been great to change out weapons and or suits according to who your fighting it could not realistically be done effectively. it had taken me a year to have the SP's to be good at one thing.
the waiting times have reduced, i believe its got to the point where its viable and necessary to split the pubs into advanced and over and basic and bellow. it will make the game more enjoyable for most besides those who enjoy stomping 1 sided battles.
yes i know squads are the biggest force multiplier - but there is still a large difference if your in a basic or starter fit facing a squad vs a squad of proto. Eve online has high sec for new players to have "relative" safety from the free for all seen in low sec. We need a high sec low rewards area for our new players and our not so new players that aren't good enough to tackle proto squads. If you build it, they will come.... Side thought... What if we made one of our modes, thinking domination, high sec?
i agree 110 percent, maybe reduce squad size to 3
but i fear there are too many people who are not about the good games and all about the stomp who will be vocal critics
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Yeeeuuuupppp
Random Gunz
796
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Posted - 2015.01.12 15:45:00 -
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K bye.
See you on the flip side brother
PSN: GMANCASH
One day I hope to cover a caldari stripper in chocolate
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demonkiller 12
The Rainbow Effect
431
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Posted - 2015.01.12 15:51:00 -
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DrewEon wrote:WARxion ForDUST wrote:\______/ <--- Before leaving please put your tears and ISK in here. Thanks.
But seriously, you just freshly came out from Academy with cheap and probably poorly fitted suits. Why do you expect to take out PRO suits 1on1? Especially with a Scout. You are twice as fast as a brick tanked Amarr Assault, ran away from them, put REs at their feet or attack them from behind. I've been playing for a lot longer than fresh out of academy genius. I've got a proto scout and adv assault. Its just too hard to do well anymore. My scout CK.0 with about 400hp can do crap against an assault rifle. im top 3 in game with my std/blueprint ****, you have no excuses also cal scout is ******* BS and actually hardest thing to kill ever, if it ever registered a single bullet i'd be happy |
TEBOW BAGGINS
GREATNESS ACHIEVED THRU TROLLING
1545
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Posted - 2015.01.12 16:06:00 -
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lol @ he thinks the AR is op.. havent heard that one for a while. he complained about 3 different suits in one post plus the AR lol.. the only suit he didn't cover was the logi. not saying there aren't better games to play but complaining about people using 3 different suit? dude seriously?
AKA Zirzo Valcyn
AFKing since 2012
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Crimson ShieId
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
1696
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Posted - 2015.01.12 16:27:00 -
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Forlorn Destrier wrote:DrewEon wrote:Everyone. Tanking with assualts. Tanking with heavies. Scouts with shotguns. That's all there is these days. And overpowered as can get assault rifles. DO SOMETHING CCP. What do you expect new players to do? Match making sucks, so they're for sure going to be put in with a bunch of photos running assault rifles and 800 armor on assaults. I myself have gotten to the point where I struggle to do well no matter what I run! Think about it CCP. Fix the game. And my scout. You've lost yet another player :) 1. Lifetime KDR 4.30 2. Lifetime WLR 1.34 3. 7,731 kills Yeah, you aren't doing well at all. Also - you are complaining about them balancing the game - this is a good thing, as people actually perform at their skill level. You sound like you just have sour grapes. Until you suggest a way to fix something you feel is wrong, there is no point to your complaining other than to hear yourself "talk" and to get attention.
Darn, can't even put an obligatory get good post in.
OP though... nothing you've mentioned is new. The NPE has always been **** in this game. That doesn't seem to be the main focus though, it's more like your Caldari scout can no longer show you everything nearby successfully and thus with lessened radar capabilities, you're struggling. If you want serious advice from people, upload one of your gameplay videos or something. If not, bye bye, don't forget to deposit your Isk in one of the local newbie training corps.
You'll be back though... they always come back...
I want to punch.
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CYRAX SERVIUS
Death Firm.
1939
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Posted - 2015.01.12 16:56:00 -
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Dude, you are playing a game with a playerbase of about 2500, most of what's left are the diehard vets who have been playing for a LONG time.
Match that up with a game with crap mechanics, crap framerate lag, lag in general, huge SP gap favoring the vets, guys who can afford to run proto gear endlessly and you are gonna get your shishe pushed in.
This game has ALWAYS catered to a very small group of players, that's why they're still here. This game used to be great about 2 years ago but unfortunately you missed the really best time of this games life.
Dust is dying, slowly, what you have is the same small playerbase with much better gear, tons of SP to chase the FOTM, and it's free to play. So until CCP"s contract with Sony runs out and they pull the plug, this is what you got. Do yourself a favor, loosen up some cash and go buy some other games and get yourself out of this crapstorm of a game. It is not the most hardcore FPS that so many think it is. Most of the really good and I mean REALLY good players left a long time ago when CCP announced Legion LOL, that doesn't look like it's going to happen.
So what you have is a bunch of high sp players competing to be on top of a very small playerbase, huge accomplishment, and anyone new or less than 20 mil sp is screwed. I have playing on PS4 for eight months now, better games and graphics, comms systems, overall a better world for gaming and would not give Dust a second thought. I just like to get a few laughs in the war room from time to time, and to read post's like this to remember how crappy this game really is.
It is easy to be the biggest fish in a very small pond...
I am Dust Free, found fun in gaming again,
Destiny, hell yes, Planetside2? Makes dust look like what it is, crap.
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KING CHECKMATE
Opus Arcana Covert Intervention
7045
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Posted - 2015.01.12 17:24:00 -
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DrewEon wrote:Everyone. Tanking with assualts. Tanking with heavies. Scouts with shotguns. That's all there is these days. And overpowered as can get assault rifles. DO SOMETHING CCP. What do you expect new players to do? Match making sucks, so they're for sure going to be put in with a bunch of photos running assault rifles and 800 armor on assaults. I myself have gotten to the point where I struggle to do well no matter what I run! Think about it CCP. Fix the game. And my scout. You've lost yet another player :)
Give me ISK please.
Playing as : Calscout + Amarr Assault
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7th Son 7
Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation
285
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Posted - 2015.01.12 17:34:00 -
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DrewEon wrote:Everyone. Tanking with assualts. Tanking with heavies. Scouts with shotguns. That's all there is these days. And overpowered as can get assault rifles. DO SOMETHING CCP. What do you expect new players to do? Match making sucks, so they're for sure going to be put in with a bunch of photos running assault rifles and 800 armor on assaults. I myself have gotten to the point where I struggle to do well no matter what I run! Think about it CCP. Fix the game. And my scout. You've lost yet another player :)
Buy an apex, it will remove the stress a 100 fold, and iff CCP works on lag that would be awesome. Don't forget tho that it takes time to get really good at any shooter and not just Dust.
Conduct on the battlefield is the ultimate measure of a man
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2Berries
Ghosts of Dawn General Tso's Alliance
536
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Posted - 2015.01.12 17:34:00 -
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Adapt & over come...or post & cry if that works better for you.
Changes to ewar have made the cal scout pretty pointless to use compare to other scout suits, but it's not completely worthless. Maybe make some lol fits & see if you have any fun with those. I've learned some new tricks doing this, maybe you can do the same.
If you are diehard scout, go to the barbershop with a positive attitude & get some help.
Have you considered a career in costumed aggression?
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DrewEon
True Vengeance.
35
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Posted - 2015.01.12 18:05:00 -
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First of all, been playing since late beta. Not new. And second, the only reason I'm mad is because when you put months of playing into the game to get something you want, and CCP nerfs it to complete dog crap, it really sucks. And yeah, lots of stuff is OP, but it's understandable. It's those nerfs. |
Leadfoot10
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
2857
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Posted - 2015.01.12 18:14:00 -
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I feel for you. It's tough to stay ahead the nerf/buff cycle and the resulting FoTMs. The only way I could do so was to keep a reserve of 5m SP ahead of major drops/updates. That way, when a playstyle emerges as dominant, you have the SP to skill into it instantly. You might consider this as one strategy to help bridge the gap.
Or you might just simply stick to one or two roles and enjoy them -- because the gap between the strongest and weakest suits in this game isn't nearly as large as some would have us believe. Certainly not large enough that skill cannot overcome it in the vast majority of public contract battles. |
7th Son 7
Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation
285
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Posted - 2015.01.12 18:17:00 -
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DrewEon wrote:First of all, been playing since late beta. Not new. And second, the only reason I'm mad is because when you put months of playing into the game to get something you want, and CCP nerfs it to complete dog crap, it really sucks. And yeah, lots of stuff is OP, but it's understandable. It's those nerfs.
I do agrew w/you there. It's like "what will be nerfed next"?, it's a pretty constant feeling. Im currently saving my SP in case the shred something I currently have upgraded. And seriously dude buy a damn apex suit. I have so much more fun when it's not always about the money im losing and/or making.
Conduct on the battlefield is the ultimate measure of a man
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KING CHECKMATE
Opus Arcana Covert Intervention
7046
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Posted - 2015.01.12 18:28:00 -
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2Berries wrote:Adapt & over come...or post & cry if that works better for you.
Changes to ewar have made the cal scout pretty pointless to use compare to other scout suits, but it's not completely worthless. Maybe make some lol fits & see if you have any fun with those. I've learned some new tricks doing this, maybe you can do the same.
If you are diehard scout, go to the barbershop with a positive attitude & get some help.
W.T.* ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT.
CAl scout is THE BEST SCOUT.
Gal scout cannot scan with 30 mts MAX scan range// only works cuz low slots and damp. same problem with Amarr scout, (30mts max range) only works as a Flanker cuz decently low Scan profile (compared to assaults), low slots and massive stamina. Minnie is still the best hacker and NKfer, but its really specialized.
CAl has DAmpening, Regen (With 50 shield regen per sec) and the best RANGE.
Have you checked Range amplifiers lately? 15% range increase at PROTO level.
You would need 3 PROTO range amplifiers to get the same scan range the cal scout has.
Sure, the passive scanning did take a huge hit, but cal scout is still 100% solid.
Playing as : Calscout + Amarr Assault
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Leadfoot10
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
2861
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Posted - 2015.01.12 19:03:00 -
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I'd say 80%, King, and I still think the Gal Scout and its evasion of scans to be the more powerful suit in-game. |
Timtron Victory
Horizons' Edge
245
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Posted - 2015.01.12 19:10:00 -
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I have one word for you : Nova Knife. Well thats two. I killed a proto with a Tiger scout and I have zero SP into Minmatar scout
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Jesus Loves You
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2Berries
Ghosts of Dawn General Tso's Alliance
536
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Posted - 2015.01.12 19:14:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:2Berries wrote:Adapt & over come...or post & cry if that works better for you.
Changes to ewar have made the cal scout pretty pointless to use compare to other scout suits, but it's not completely worthless. Maybe make some lol fits & see if you have any fun with those. I've learned some new tricks doing this, maybe you can do the same.
If you are diehard scout, go to the barbershop with a positive attitude & get some help. W.T.* ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT.CAl scout is THE BEST SCOUT.Gal scout cannot scan with 30 mts MAX scan range// only works cuz low slots and damp. same problem with Amarr scout, (30mts max range) only works as a Flanker cuz decently low Scan profile (compared to assaults), low slots and massive stamina. Minnie is still the best hacker and NKfer, but its really specialized. CAl has DAmpening, Regen (With 50 shield regen per sec) and the best RANGE. Have you checked Range amplifiers lately? 15% range increase at PROTO level.You would need 3 PROTO range amplifiers to get the same scan range the cal scout has. Sure, the passive scanning did take a huge hit, but cal scout is still 100% solid.
Yeah, it's solid, but the passive scan nerf really hindered it's usability. It's easier to speed tank or dampen, which will get you past 2/3rd of the scan rings virtually unnoticed & those mods are more effective on the battlefield than the derped passives we have now. With only 2 lows & very limited ewar options for high slots, gal scouts offer a fuller range of options. Especially so since armor > shields & the bonus to dampening.
I used to radar scout (2 comp range amps, 3 precision mods, cloak & active scanner), but can't see the point now in having to stand alone, uncloaked & undampened with no tank, within 20m of a squad of reds just so my passives help my squad. Everything that fit can i can do with my eyes & a mic-leaving me 5 slots to work with.
While cal scouts are still ******* awesome (& still my first true love), i can't say they are the best.
Have you considered a career in costumed aggression?
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DrewEon
True Vengeance.
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Posted - 2015.01.12 19:38:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:[quote=2Berries]Adapt & over come...or post & cry if that works better for you.
Sure, the passive scanning did take a huge hit, but cal scout is still 100% solid. Do you run Caldari scout? Do you think it's f****** solid!?!?!?! |
DrewEon
True Vengeance.
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Timtron Victory wrote:I have one word for you : Nova Knife. Well thats two. I killed a proto with a Tiger scout and I have zero SP into Minmatar scout I constantly run nova knives. Probably get 40% of my kills with them. It's just hard to run after someone to knife them and not know if you'll be shot in the back |
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2Berries
Ghosts of Dawn General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2015.01.12 19:45:00 -
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DrewEon wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:[quote=2Berries]Adapt & over come...or post & cry if that works better for you.
Sure, the passive scanning did take a huge hit, but cal scout is still 100% solid. Do you run Caldari scout? Do you think it's f****** solid!?!?!?! Yes.
2x complex kin cats 2x complex dmg mods Proto RR or adv AScR
Solid.
Have you considered a career in costumed aggression?
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CrotchGrab 360
Yon Hyaku Nijuu Moyase
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Posted - 2015.01.12 20:35:00 -
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another EZ mode scout bites the DUST as soon as they're not the most OP thing in the game
my "i quit" post was very mild in comparison
please send me your ISK.
Don't Be A Scrub, Gimme A Sub!
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Union118
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2015.01.12 21:39:00 -
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DrewEon wrote:Everyone. Tanking with assualts. Tanking with heavies. Scouts with shotguns. That's all there is these days. And overpowered as can get assault rifles. DO SOMETHING CCP. What do you expect new players to do? Match making sucks, so they're for sure going to be put in with a bunch of photos running assault rifles and 800 armor on assaults. I myself have gotten to the point where I struggle to do well no matter what I run! Think about it CCP. Fix the game. And my scout. You've lost yet another player :) My advice is learn to snipe. Most maps dont have good snipe spots so move constantly.
Starter Fit Suits are OP :-)
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Golden Day
Y.A.M.A.H
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Posted - 2015.01.12 21:40:00 -
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Aye!
My brick tanked amarr assault is effective.....kinda
You do know that you are the one with four eyes right?
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Dreis Shadowweaver
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2015.01.12 22:04:00 -
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You always QQ'd about everything when you were in 3rd rock I remember one thing you said in particular:
'I hate Skirmish, there are too many opportunities to die!'
My favourite thing about this game is this: adapt or die.
Creator of the 'Nova Knifers United' channel
Caldari blood, Minmatar heart <3
I'm not American, FFS!!!
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Yokal Bob
Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2015.01.12 22:10:00 -
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DrewEon wrote:Everyone. Tanking with assualts. Tanking with heavies. Scouts with shotguns. That's all there is these days. And overpowered as can get assault rifles. DO SOMETHING CCP. What do you expect new players to do? Match making sucks, so they're for sure going to be put in with a bunch of photos running assault rifles and 800 armor on assaults. I myself have gotten to the point where I struggle to do well no matter what I run! Think about it CCP. Fix the game. And my scout. You've lost yet another player :)
pick up a rep tool, those tanks need some love
/{o.o}/ ---L Inflatable hammer strikes again
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