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Ghosts Chance
Inf4m0us
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Posted - 2014.12.18 12:18:00 -
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againnst proto stompers.
show em you truly give no fucks
Minmatar is Winmatar
Creed of the Minja - "I'm a leaf on the wind"
I am Chances Ghost
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TYCHUS MAXWELL
The Fun Police
717
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Posted - 2014.12.18 12:34:00 -
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Ghosts Chance wrote:againnst proto stompers.
show em you truly give no fucks
Is that any specific variant or do you mean all variants? I find the standard to work all right but when it comes to driving everyone out of their hidey holes or else, you gotta bring the noise with the assault variant. Breach is for spit wadding vehicles or getting dem OHKOs on starter fits. |
Ghosts Chance
Inf4m0us
2578
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Posted - 2014.12.18 12:38:00 -
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TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote:Ghosts Chance wrote:againnst proto stompers.
show em you truly give no fucks Is that any specific variant or do you mean all variants? I find the standard to work all right but when it comes to driving everyone out of their hidey holes or else, you gotta bring the noise with the assault variant. Breach is for spit wadding vehicles or getting dem OHKOs on starter fits. Typically speaking though veteran proto stompers know to spaz the **** out while they spam their assault variant rifles when you use a breach MD, PLC, or Forge gun. I get lit up like a christmas tree everytime I run one of those things against proto stompers. Probably because anything else is a non-threat when you're strafe spazzing in full proto. Edit: Wait did they add new variants to the game? Haven't logged on yet... is the snowball launcher a new thing?
... it does 0 direct and 0 splash damage... and only comes in proto
Minmatar is Winmatar
Creed of the Minja - "I'm a leaf on the wind"
I am Chances Ghost
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TYCHUS MAXWELL
The Fun Police
717
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Posted - 2014.12.18 12:51:00 -
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Ghosts Chance wrote:TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote:Ghosts Chance wrote:againnst proto stompers.
show em you truly give no fucks Is that any specific variant or do you mean all variants? I find the standard to work all right but when it comes to driving everyone out of their hidey holes or else, you gotta bring the noise with the assault variant. Breach is for spit wadding vehicles or getting dem OHKOs on starter fits. Typically speaking though veteran proto stompers know to spaz the **** out while they spam their assault variant rifles when you use a breach MD, PLC, or Forge gun. I get lit up like a christmas tree everytime I run one of those things against proto stompers. Probably because anything else is a non-threat when you're strafe spazzing in full proto. Edit: Wait did they add new variants to the game? Haven't logged on yet... is the snowball launcher a new thing? ... it does 0 direct and 0 splash damage... and only comes in proto
I'm guessing its a glitch? Did they **** with the current variants or is this some new variant? If so, then mother *******, lol! I just started respeccing into MDs. Already getting second hand ****** by them buffing AR even more to make it competitive against armor tanks as shield tanking is just becoming more of a joke as well.
Just seriously... why do they expect shield profiled weapons to perform on par with armor profiled if they have 2 armor tanking races and one dual tank? The kill numbers on ARs and ScR were supposed to be lower since Caldari were the only ones highly vulnerable to them. Now though, it's just GG for the Caldari and I'll have to brick or speed tank my Minmitar suits. Good bye dual tanking... shields are useless. |
Ghosts Chance
Inf4m0us
2579
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Posted - 2014.12.18 12:52:00 -
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TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote:Ghosts Chance wrote:TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote:Ghosts Chance wrote:againnst proto stompers.
show em you truly give no fucks Is that any specific variant or do you mean all variants? I find the standard to work all right but when it comes to driving everyone out of their hidey holes or else, you gotta bring the noise with the assault variant. Breach is for spit wadding vehicles or getting dem OHKOs on starter fits. Typically speaking though veteran proto stompers know to spaz the **** out while they spam their assault variant rifles when you use a breach MD, PLC, or Forge gun. I get lit up like a christmas tree everytime I run one of those things against proto stompers. Probably because anything else is a non-threat when you're strafe spazzing in full proto. Edit: Wait did they add new variants to the game? Haven't logged on yet... is the snowball launcher a new thing? ... it does 0 direct and 0 splash damage... and only comes in proto I'm guessing its a glitch? Did they **** with the current variants or is this some new variant? If so, then mother *******, lol! I just started respeccing into MDs. Already getting second hand ****** by them buffing AR even more to make it competitive against armor tanks as shield tanking is just becoming more of a joke as well.
no its literally a snowball launcher
Minmatar is Winmatar
Creed of the Minja - "I'm a leaf on the wind"
I am Chances Ghost
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TYCHUS MAXWELL
The Fun Police
717
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Posted - 2014.12.18 12:54:00 -
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Ghosts Chance wrote:TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote:Ghosts Chance wrote:TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote:Ghosts Chance wrote:againnst proto stompers.
show em you truly give no fucks Is that any specific variant or do you mean all variants? I find the standard to work all right but when it comes to driving everyone out of their hidey holes or else, you gotta bring the noise with the assault variant. Breach is for spit wadding vehicles or getting dem OHKOs on starter fits. Typically speaking though veteran proto stompers know to spaz the **** out while they spam their assault variant rifles when you use a breach MD, PLC, or Forge gun. I get lit up like a christmas tree everytime I run one of those things against proto stompers. Probably because anything else is a non-threat when you're strafe spazzing in full proto. Edit: Wait did they add new variants to the game? Haven't logged on yet... is the snowball launcher a new thing? ... it does 0 direct and 0 splash damage... and only comes in proto I'm guessing its a glitch? Did they **** with the current variants or is this some new variant? If so, then mother *******, lol! I just started respeccing into MDs. Already getting second hand ****** by them buffing AR even more to make it competitive against armor tanks as shield tanking is just becoming more of a joke as well. no its literally a snowball launcher
A holiday joke? |
Ghosts Chance
Inf4m0us
2579
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Posted - 2014.12.18 12:55:00 -
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TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote:
A holiday joke?
dust version of the EvE snowball launcher
Minmatar is Winmatar
Creed of the Minja - "I'm a leaf on the wind"
I am Chances Ghost
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pegasis prime
BIG BAD W0LVES
1876
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Posted - 2014.12.18 13:20:00 -
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I was laughing my ass of last night with the snowball launcher i literally held 4 mercs of of objective a on ashland with it every time they tried to break cover i let of a round or two and they kept scrambling back for cover.
Proud Caldari purist . Rank 10 colonel omiwarrior.
I fought and bled for the State on Caldari prime.
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CCP Rattati
C C P
C C P Alliance
13873
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Posted - 2014.12.18 13:37:00 -
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pegasis prime wrote:I was laughing my ass of last night with the snowball launcher i literally held 4 mercs of of objective a on ashland with it every time they tried to break cover i let of a round or two and they kept scrambling back for cover.
omega like
"As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"
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TYCHUS MAXWELL
The Fun Police
717
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Posted - 2014.12.18 13:38:00 -
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Holiday updates are all well and good but we don't even have all racial weapons and at the least racial types. I mean a breach RR ScR and CR are all just edits just like a snowball launcher. Likewise Tactical RR and CR would be the same...
not to be a Scrooge here, but there are so many useful edits that a gimmicky edit seems like a waste of their apparent limited resources. |
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VikingKong iBUN
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
310
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Posted - 2014.12.18 13:55:00 -
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TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote:Holiday updates are all well and good but we don't even have all racial weapons and at the least racial types. I mean a breach RR ScR and CR are all just edits just like a snowball launcher. Likewise Tactical RR and CR as well as the Burst RR and ScR would be the same...
not to be a Scrooge here, but there are so many useful edits that a gimmicky edit seems like a waste of their apparent limited resources.
You just don't understand. |
DeathwindRising
ROGUE RELICS
VP Gaming Alliance
754
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Posted - 2014.12.18 13:55:00 -
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TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote:Holiday updates are all well and good but we don't even have all racial weapons and at the least racial types. I mean a breach RR ScR and CR are all just edits just like a snowball launcher. Likewise Tactical RR and CR as well as the Burst RR and ScR would be the same...
not to be a Scrooge here, but there are so many useful edits that a gimmicky edit seems like a waste of their apparent limited resources.
youre being a scrooge during the holidays and should feel bad.
that launcher was a much needed comic relief for the community and game in general. some of us take this game too seriously, its nice to relax and have a laugh. |
duster 35000
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
102
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Posted - 2014.12.18 13:57:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:pegasis prime wrote:I was laughing my ass of last night with the snowball launcher i literally held 4 mercs of of objective a on ashland with it every time they tried to break cover i let of a round or two and they kept scrambling back for cover. omega like
The only downside is you guys made it cost so much for a no damage variant.
Choo Choo
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MrBlobz
117
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Posted - 2014.12.18 13:58:00 -
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VikingKong iBUN wrote:TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote:Holiday updates are all well and good but we don't even have all racial weapons and at the least racial types. I mean a breach RR ScR and CR are all just edits just like a snowball launcher. Likewise Tactical RR and CR as well as the Burst RR and ScR would be the same...
not to be a Scrooge here, but there are so many useful edits that a gimmicky edit seems like a waste of their apparent limited resources. You just don't understand.
He really is the Fun Police.
(>'o')> #RollinGold <('o'<)
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TYCHUS MAXWELL
The Fun Police
719
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Posted - 2014.12.18 14:00:00 -
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DeathwindRising wrote:TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote:Holiday updates are all well and good but we don't even have all racial weapons and at the least racial types. I mean a breach RR ScR and CR are all just edits just like a snowball launcher. Likewise Tactical RR and CR as well as the Burst RR and ScR would be the same...
not to be a Scrooge here, but there are so many useful edits that a gimmicky edit seems like a waste of their apparent limited resources. youre being a scrooge during the holidays and should feel bad. that launcher was a much needed comic relief for the community and game in general. some of us take this game too seriously, its nice to relax and have a laugh.
Well excuse me princess, for wanting this game to be a success that people will give a **** about instead of wanting to add a few chortles for 15 minutes from less than 3000 people. I know tons of people really find the hit detection and forge gunning for 0 damage to be just the funniest joke the world's ever seen.
They want to add a holiday event with snow ball launchers? How about a special game mode where you use unlimited frontline fitted snowball launchers that ohko players in the game mode. No isk, no wp, just entertainment. If you're going to waste time might as well make it enjoyable.
That's how you make an event. |
duster 35000
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
102
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Posted - 2014.12.18 14:01:00 -
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TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote:DeathwindRising wrote:TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote:Holiday updates are all well and good but we don't even have all racial weapons and at the least racial types. I mean a breach RR ScR and CR are all just edits just like a snowball launcher. Likewise Tactical RR and CR as well as the Burst RR and ScR would be the same...
not to be a Scrooge here, but there are so many useful edits that a gimmicky edit seems like a waste of their apparent limited resources. youre being a scrooge during the holidays and should feel bad. that launcher was a much needed comic relief for the community and game in general. some of us take this game too seriously, its nice to relax and have a laugh. Well excuse me princess, for wanting this game to be a success that people will give a **** about instead of wanting to add a few chortles for 15 minutes from less than 3000 people.
You killed it.
Scrooge, you killed that line.
Choo Choo
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WARxion ForDUST
G0DS AM0NG MEN
General Tso's Alliance
209
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Posted - 2014.12.18 14:14:00 -
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TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote:DeathwindRising wrote:TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote:Holiday updates are all well and good but we don't even have all racial weapons and at the least racial types. I mean a breach RR ScR and CR are all just edits just like a snowball launcher. Likewise Tactical RR and CR as well as the Burst RR and ScR would be the same...
not to be a Scrooge here, but there are so many useful edits that a gimmicky edit seems like a waste of their apparent limited resources. youre being a scrooge during the holidays and should feel bad. that launcher was a much needed comic relief for the community and game in general. some of us take this game too seriously, its nice to relax and have a laugh. Well excuse me princess, for wanting this game to be a success that people will give a **** about instead of wanting to add a few chortles for 15 minutes from less than 3000 people. I know tons of people really find the hit detection and forge gunning for 0 damage to be just the funniest joke the world's ever seen. They want to add a holiday event with snow ball launchers? How about a special game mode where you use unlimited frontline fitted snowball launchers that ohko players in the game mode. No isk, no wp, just entertainment. If you're going to waste time might as well make it enjoyable. That's how you make an event.
The Fun Police - corp name checks out. You literally step on fun's chest until it dies because of asphyxia.
Yes, I'm that desperate...
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RayRay James
Titans of Phoenix
844
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Posted - 2014.12.18 14:37:00 -
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TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote:DeathwindRising wrote:TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote:Holiday updates are all well and good but we don't even have all racial weapons and at the least racial types. I mean a breach RR ScR and CR are all just edits just like a snowball launcher. Likewise Tactical RR and CR as well as the Burst RR and ScR would be the same...
not to be a Scrooge here, but there are so many useful edits that a gimmicky edit seems like a waste of their apparent limited resources. youre being a scrooge during the holidays and should feel bad. that launcher was a much needed comic relief for the community and game in general. some of us take this game too seriously, its nice to relax and have a laugh. Well excuse me princess, for wanting this game to be a success that people will give a **** about instead of wanting to add a few chortles for 15 minutes from less than 3000 people. I know tons of people really find the hit detection and forge gunning for 0 damage to be just the funniest joke the world's ever seen. They want to add a holiday event with snow ball launchers? How about a special game mode where you use unlimited frontline fitted snowball launchers that ohko players in the game mode. No isk, no wp, just entertainment. If you're going to waste time might as well make it enjoyable. That's how you make an event.
You must be so much fun at parties.
"Guys, seriously, this dip isn't on ice, do you want to give everyone food poisoning? Also, while we're on the topic of health, you really should watch the sodium on those chips, it might lead to hypertension"
Also, wtf are you talking about with the forge. I kill infantry and tanks all the time with a forge gun. |
brett morris518
is well hung
48
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Posted - 2014.12.18 14:40:00 -
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TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote:DeathwindRising wrote:TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote:Holiday updates are all well and good but we don't even have all racial weapons and at the least racial types. I mean a breach RR ScR and CR are all just edits just like a snowball launcher. Likewise Tactical RR and CR as well as the Burst RR and ScR would be the same...
not to be a Scrooge here, but there are so many useful edits that a gimmicky edit seems like a waste of their apparent limited resources. youre being a scrooge during the holidays and should feel bad. that launcher was a much needed comic relief for the community and game in general. some of us take this game too seriously, its nice to relax and have a laugh. Well excuse me princess, for wanting this game to be a success that people will give a **** about instead of wanting to add a few chortles for 15 minutes from less than 3000 people. I know tons of people really find the hit detection and forge gunning for 0 damage to be just the funniest joke the world's ever seen. They want to add a holiday event with snow ball launchers? How about a special game mode where you use unlimited frontline fitted snowball launchers that ohko players in the game mode. No isk, no wp, just entertainment. If you're going to waste time might as well make it enjoyable. That's how you make an event.
Bet u on the 6th of January, after "12 days of dust" they will do damage and everybody will be running around having a snowball fight that day... Ooooohhh!!!! Add snow atmosphere that day please!!!! Kthnx :) |
Duke Noobiam
The Dukes of Death
293
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Posted - 2014.12.18 15:56:00 -
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pegasis prime wrote:I was laughing my ass of last night with the snowball launcher i literally held 4 mercs of of objective a on ashland with it every time they tried to break cover i let of a round or two and they kept scrambling back for cover.
It's official, the snowball launcher is OP!!!
Please nerf. |
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TYCHUS MAXWELL
The Fun Police
724
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Posted - 2014.12.18 16:16:00 -
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RayRay James wrote:TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote:DeathwindRising wrote:TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote:Holiday updates are all well and good but we don't even have all racial weapons and at the least racial types. I mean a breach RR ScR and CR are all just edits just like a snowball launcher. Likewise Tactical RR and CR as well as the Burst RR and ScR would be the same...
not to be a Scrooge here, but there are so many useful edits that a gimmicky edit seems like a waste of their apparent limited resources. youre being a scrooge during the holidays and should feel bad. that launcher was a much needed comic relief for the community and game in general. some of us take this game too seriously, its nice to relax and have a laugh. Well excuse me princess, for wanting this game to be a success that people will give a **** about instead of wanting to add a few chortles for 15 minutes from less than 3000 people. I know tons of people really find the hit detection and forge gunning for 0 damage to be just the funniest joke the world's ever seen. They want to add a holiday event with snow ball launchers? How about a special game mode where you use unlimited frontline fitted snowball launchers that ohko players in the game mode. No isk, no wp, just entertainment. If you're going to waste time might as well make it enjoyable. That's how you make an event. You must be so much fun at parties. "Guys, seriously, this dip isn't on ice, do you want to give everyone food poisoning? Also, while we're on the topic of health, you really should watch the sodium on those chips, it might lead to hypertension" Also, wtf are you talking about with the forge. I kill infantry and tanks all the time with a forge gun.
The point was that doing 0 damage to cause false hit markers is already a thing. Non-Assault forge guns, rail turrets, and the occasional shot here and there already do what the snowball launcher does. You can brown nose as much as you want but currently Dust has been an objective market failure. I don't want it to be that, it has potential, but wasting dev time on items that not even everyone can use (you need at least level 3 mass drivers to access it) when your game isn't even complete is just rubbing old wounds for no good reason.
I'm not cracking the whip on Rattatai they can do whatever they want it's their job, I'm just saying it was a pretty wasteful addition when they could of literally just done nothing. |
Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
10520
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Posted - 2014.12.18 16:25:00 -
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TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote:Holiday updates are all well and good but we don't even have all racial weapons and at the least racial types. I mean a breach RR ScR and CR are all just edits just like a snowball launcher. Likewise Tactical RR and CR as well as the Burst RR and ScR would be the same...
not to be a Scrooge here, but there are so many useful edits that a gimmicky edit seems like a waste of their apparent limited resources.
They do it all the ******* time in Eve Online. We have Festival Launchers that fire not only snowballs that hone in a targeted ship but it also fires fireworks of various colors and effects. If Eve players can enjoy that, so should we. Screw the events. I want a snowball mass driver, an Amarr Sentinal Santa suit, a Minmatar Scout Elf suit, and an LAV with reindeer antlers on it! I'll be damned if I let some Scrooge like you take away all the fun.
On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
10520
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Posted - 2014.12.18 16:26:00 -
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http://www.themittani.com/media/highsec-christmas-carol-audio
On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
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Ghosts Chance
Inf4m0us
2600
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Posted - 2014.12.18 16:28:00 -
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hes a troll guys... his corp name is literally "the fun police"
this probably took someone 10 minuites to do
step one, take AUR proto mass driver skin
step two, take shader for effect color that you just spent 2 months working on and remove all color fromm the projectile
step three, savee to spreadsheet and watch as someone accuses you of wasting precious dev time on the forums.
the reality is that he was probably at work after hours screwing around when he made it so dont fret, no (billed) dev hours were wasted and it cost CCP no money to implement.
Minmatar is Winmatar
Creed of the Minja - "I'm a leaf on the wind"
I am Chances Ghost
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Ku Shala
The Generals
1079
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Posted - 2014.12.18 17:30:00 -
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 well about that all the bpo sales actually funded the million dollar 500 man hour snowball driver and stopped the release of all racial weapons and updates for the next 6 months
but seriously loosen up its the holidays
if this game stresses you out that much Biomass and give your isk to a newberry
have a Blueberry X-mass snowball driver and tickle the reds to death
Merry X-mas Forum ¦¦w¦¦o¦¦r¦¦r¦¦i¦¦e¦¦r¦¦s¦¦ warriors
-¦a+ó a+ú-Æa+äla+ä (Caldari Specialist)
Caldari Loyalist
*Assault -Logistics-Sentinal-Scout-Commando Allround CK-0
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Xocoyol Zaraoul
Superior Genetics
2882
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Posted - 2014.12.18 17:33:00 -
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TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote:not to be a Scrooge here, but
You're a scrooge, I personally like small holiday updates, it keeps the game fun for those of us who like fun.
The snowball launcher required a dirt easy color for the explosion (Pure white, no nitpicking with devs on "Not exactly the right color"), existing skin, existing skills, and literally zero thought in balancing which saves time. It is probably literally the fasted weapon they could create.
"You see those red dots over there?
Go and shoot them until you see a +50 on the screen" - Arkena Wyrnspire
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Vapor Forseti
Nyain Chan
General Tso's Alliance
1708
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Posted - 2014.12.18 17:36:00 -
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Wat
Is there really a snowball launcher??? I haven't logged into Dust in a while. If it does exist, then I must use this for myself.
Texted my wife. She said she wants two holo strippers for her room. She also wants a holo penguin butler.
-Ripley
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Mad Syringe
ReDust Inc.
421
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Posted - 2014.12.18 18:43:00 -
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Jepp, it's called the X-MS15 Snowwball Launcher, you can have it for 47,220 ISK and it needs MD OP LV III, which is the only critique I'd have, it should be not more than LV1 necessary for it, and it could be cheaper as well.
The thing itself just has a different Projectile colour the weapon has a winter camo skin and no damage can be achieved with it.
I would have liked at least 10hp damage, that you would have been able to finish people with it, just for the lolz.
If you ever do this again, please give us a little snowsplash on implact.
Also I'm not happy with the new effects of the MD since the last update, the firetrail is gone, please give it back! |
Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
10530
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Posted - 2014.12.18 19:15:00 -
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Mad Syringe wrote:Jepp, it's called the X-MS15 Snowwball Launcher, you can have it for 47,220 ISK and it needs MD OP LV III, which is the only critique I'd have, it should be not more than LV1 necessary for it, and it could be cheaper as well.
The thing itself just has a different Projectile colour the weapon has a winter camo skin and no damage can be achieved with it.
I would have liked at least 10hp damage, that you would have been able to finish people with it, just for the lolz.
If you ever do this again, please give us a little snowsplash on implact.
Also I'm not happy with the new effects of the MD since the last update, the firetrail is gone, please give it back!
Snowball launchers aren't suppose to cause damage anyways. They's there for fun. I don't think St. Nick would appreciate CCP making his toys actually hurt people.
On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
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TYCHUS MAXWELL
The Fun Police
726
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Posted - 2014.12.18 19:22:00 -
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Ghosts Chance wrote:hes a troll guys... his corp name is literally "the fun police"
this probably took someone 10 minuites to do
step one, take AUR proto mass driver skin
step two, take shader for effect color that you just spent 2 months working on and remove all color fromm the projectile
step three, savee to spreadsheet and watch as someone accuses you of wasting precious dev time on the forums.
the reality is that he was probably at work after hours screwing around when he made it so dont fret, no (billed) dev hours were wasted and it cost CCP no money to implement.
If it is literally that easy to implement new weapons then that's embarrassing that we are still missing most of the variants of weapons. I'll defer to the launchers popularity in the actual game as to whether or not many people actually care. It's the CPM elections all over again. 6 people on the forum in a population of 3000 does not a majority make. |
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Ghosts Chance
Inf4m0us
2622
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Posted - 2014.12.18 19:28:00 -
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TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote:Ghosts Chance wrote:hes a troll guys... his corp name is literally "the fun police"
this probably took someone 10 minuites to do
step one, take AUR proto mass driver skin
step two, take shader for effect color that you just spent 2 months working on and remove all color fromm the projectile
step three, savee to spreadsheet and watch as someone accuses you of wasting precious dev time on the forums.
the reality is that he was probably at work after hours screwing around when he made it so dont fret, no (billed) dev hours were wasted and it cost CCP no money to implement. If it is literally that easy to implement new weapons then that's embarrassing that we are still missing most of the variants of weapons. I'll defer to the launchers popularity in the actual game as to whether or not many people actually care. It's the CPM elections all over again. 6 people on the forum in a population of 3000 does not a majority make.
its that easy to implement a new weapon whos fitting, damage, splash, radius, rarity, and every other factor except for color do not matter to game balance.
Minmatar is Winmatar
Creed of the Minja - "I'm a leaf on the wind"
I am Chances Ghost
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TYCHUS MAXWELL
The Fun Police
726
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Posted - 2014.12.18 19:34:00 -
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Ghosts Chance wrote:TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote:Ghosts Chance wrote:hes a troll guys... his corp name is literally "the fun police"
this probably took someone 10 minuites to do
step one, take AUR proto mass driver skin
step two, take shader for effect color that you just spent 2 months working on and remove all color fromm the projectile
step three, savee to spreadsheet and watch as someone accuses you of wasting precious dev time on the forums.
the reality is that he was probably at work after hours screwing around when he made it so dont fret, no (billed) dev hours were wasted and it cost CCP no money to implement. If it is literally that easy to implement new weapons then that's embarrassing that we are still missing most of the variants of weapons. I'll defer to the launchers popularity in the actual game as to whether or not many people actually care. It's the CPM elections all over again. 6 people on the forum in a population of 3000 does not a majority make. its that easy to implement a new weapon whos fitting, damage, splash, radius, rarity, and every other factor except for color do not matter to game balance.
Wouldn't be hard if math was relied upon. People can knock it as much as they want about making fun of "Things on paper" but it wouldn't take long to establish mathematical balance. They just don't apply any rule set to how things function (IE. scrambler rifles and the TAR do not have remotely comparative stats and there's no good reason why they don't) that just being one example. This game has been a nightmare of kneejerk buff/nerf cycles with no real attempt to just balance by design instead of by Meta. |
Ghosts Chance
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Posted - 2014.12.18 19:42:00 -
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TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote:Ghosts Chance wrote:TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote:Ghosts Chance wrote:hes a troll guys... his corp name is literally "the fun police"
this probably took someone 10 minuites to do
step one, take AUR proto mass driver skin
step two, take shader for effect color that you just spent 2 months working on and remove all color fromm the projectile
step three, savee to spreadsheet and watch as someone accuses you of wasting precious dev time on the forums.
the reality is that he was probably at work after hours screwing around when he made it so dont fret, no (billed) dev hours were wasted and it cost CCP no money to implement. If it is literally that easy to implement new weapons then that's embarrassing that we are still missing most of the variants of weapons. I'll defer to the launchers popularity in the actual game as to whether or not many people actually care. It's the CPM elections all over again. 6 people on the forum in a population of 3000 does not a majority make. its that easy to implement a new weapon whos fitting, damage, splash, radius, rarity, and every other factor except for color do not matter to game balance. Wouldn't be hard if math was relied upon. People can knock it as much as they want about making fun of "Things on paper" but it wouldn't take long to establish mathematical balance. They just don't apply any rule set to how things function (IE. scrambler rifles and the TAR do not have remotely comparative stats and there's no good reason why they don't) that just being one example. This game has been a nightmare of kneejerk buff/nerf cycles with no real attempt to just balance by design instead of by Meta. I'd rather the Devs not implement anything right before the holidays (Knowing full well it will probably be buggy) and just go get drunk. I don't want a repeat of 1.7 last year where the devs dropped the vehicle rebalance then went on holiday. We had peaked up to around 4500 active then and nose dived to 1800 and now we still are below that time last year at 3000. Given that they decided to drop more rebalancing like buffing the AR even more I'd rather them focus on making sure it's all hunky dorey and not on a reskin of a weapon not everyone can use anyways.
like i said before... this is something a dev messed with while he wasnt on the clock, its just something they did to amuse themselves int heir off time and wanted to share. your not really entitled to ***** about this good sir
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2014.12.18 20:20:00 -
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TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote:Ghosts Chance wrote:TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote:Ghosts Chance wrote:hes a troll guys... his corp name is literally "the fun police"
this probably took someone 10 minuites to do
step one, take AUR proto mass driver skin
step two, take shader for effect color that you just spent 2 months working on and remove all color fromm the projectile
step three, savee to spreadsheet and watch as someone accuses you of wasting precious dev time on the forums.
the reality is that he was probably at work after hours screwing around when he made it so dont fret, no (billed) dev hours were wasted and it cost CCP no money to implement. If it is literally that easy to implement new weapons then that's embarrassing that we are still missing most of the variants of weapons. I'll defer to the launchers popularity in the actual game as to whether or not many people actually care. It's the CPM elections all over again. 6 people on the forum in a population of 3000 does not a majority make. its that easy to implement a new weapon whos fitting, damage, splash, radius, rarity, and every other factor except for color do not matter to game balance. Wouldn't be hard if math was relied upon. People can knock it as much as they want about making fun of "Things on paper" but it wouldn't take long to establish mathematical balance. They just don't apply any rule set to how things function (IE. scrambler rifles and the TAR do not have remotely comparative stats and there's no good reason why they don't) that just being one example. This game has been a nightmare of kneejerk buff/nerf cycles with no real attempt to just balance by design instead of by Meta. I'd rather the Devs not implement anything right before the holidays (Knowing full well it will probably be buggy) and just go get drunk. I don't want a repeat of 1.7 last year where the devs dropped the vehicle rebalance then went on holiday. We had peaked up to around 4500 active then and nose dived to 1800 and now we still are below that time last year at 3000. Given that they decided to drop more rebalancing like buffing the AR even more I'd rather them focus on making sure it's all hunky dorey and not on a reskin of a weapon not everyone can use anyways.
Goodness gracious, sir. Give it up already.
A snowball launcher never requires any community feedback and extensive play testing over an entire week to get it right like a traditional mass driver does. Also, because you need community feedback and extensive play testing, relying on math alone is not going to be a guarantee that it will be balanced. Besides, snowball launchers were never meant to be balanced in the first place. IT'S A SNOWBALL LAUNCHER FOR CHRIST SAKE!
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TYCHUS MAXWELL
The Fun Police
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Posted - 2014.12.18 20:43:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote:Ghosts Chance wrote:TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote:Ghosts Chance wrote:hes a troll guys... his corp name is literally "the fun police"
this probably took someone 10 minuites to do
step one, take AUR proto mass driver skin
step two, take shader for effect color that you just spent 2 months working on and remove all color fromm the projectile
step three, savee to spreadsheet and watch as someone accuses you of wasting precious dev time on the forums.
the reality is that he was probably at work after hours screwing around when he made it so dont fret, no (billed) dev hours were wasted and it cost CCP no money to implement. If it is literally that easy to implement new weapons then that's embarrassing that we are still missing most of the variants of weapons. I'll defer to the launchers popularity in the actual game as to whether or not many people actually care. It's the CPM elections all over again. 6 people on the forum in a population of 3000 does not a majority make. its that easy to implement a new weapon whos fitting, damage, splash, radius, rarity, and every other factor except for color do not matter to game balance. Wouldn't be hard if math was relied upon. People can knock it as much as they want about making fun of "Things on paper" but it wouldn't take long to establish mathematical balance. They just don't apply any rule set to how things function (IE. scrambler rifles and the TAR do not have remotely comparative stats and there's no good reason why they don't) that just being one example. This game has been a nightmare of kneejerk buff/nerf cycles with no real attempt to just balance by design instead of by Meta. I'd rather the Devs not implement anything right before the holidays (Knowing full well it will probably be buggy) and just go get drunk. I don't want a repeat of 1.7 last year where the devs dropped the vehicle rebalance then went on holiday. We had peaked up to around 4500 active then and nose dived to 1800 and now we still are below that time last year at 3000. Given that they decided to drop more rebalancing like buffing the AR even more I'd rather them focus on making sure it's all hunky dorey and not on a reskin of a weapon not everyone can use anyways. Goodness gracious, sir. Give it up already. A snowball launcher never requires any community feedback and extensive play testing over an entire week to get it right like a traditional mass driver does. Also, because you need community feedback and extensive play testing, relying on math alone is not going to be a guarantee that it will be balanced. Besides, snowball launchers were never meant to be balanced in the first place. IT'S A SNOWBALL LAUNCHER FOR CHRIST SAKE!
All of these critiques were directed at the absurd excuses I responded to. Taking things out of context is rather pointless. But for you and ghost who appear to be challenged in the skill of reading comprehension, i'll break this one down for you. The mathematical balance was addressed towards the notion that it would be hard to implement other weapons that they still haven't implemented variant wise. You two just keep falling back to arguments that have nothing to do with the current defense I was addressing. Use circular logic as hard you two want, but it won't make you sound more intelligent. |
Anthany sandifer The2nd
Eternal Beings
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Posted - 2014.12.18 21:06:00 -
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TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote:DeathwindRising wrote:TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote:Holiday updates are all well and good but we don't even have all racial weapons and at the least racial types. I mean a breach RR ScR and CR are all just edits just like a snowball launcher. Likewise Tactical RR and CR as well as the Burst RR and ScR would be the same...
not to be a Scrooge here, but there are so many useful edits that a gimmicky edit seems like a waste of their apparent limited resources. youre being a scrooge during the holidays and should feel bad. that launcher was a much needed comic relief for the community and game in general. some of us take this game too seriously, its nice to relax and have a laugh. Well excuse me princess, for wanting this game to be a success that people will give a **** about instead of wanting to add a few chortles for 15 minutes from less than 3000 people. I know tons of people really find the hit detection and forge gunning for 0 damage to be just the funniest joke the world's ever seen. They want to add a holiday event with snow ball launchers? How about a special game mode where you use unlimited frontline fitted snowball launchers that ohko players in the game mode. No isk, no wp, just entertainment. If you're going to waste time might as well make it enjoyable. That's how you make an event.
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Stfu really
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Ghosts Chance
Inf4m0us
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Posted - 2014.12.18 21:17:00 -
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TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote:
All of these critiques were directed at the absurd excuses I responded to. Taking things out of context is rather pointless. But for you and ghost who appear to be challenged in the skill of reading comprehension, i'll break this one down for you. The mathematical balance was addressed towards the notion that it would be hard to implement other weapons that they still haven't implemented variant wise. You two just keep falling back to arguments that have nothing to do with the current defense I was addressing. Use circular logic as hard you two want, but it won't make you sound more intelligent.
The conversation is literally in this quote chain, so I don't know how you two failed so hard to follow.
Edit: Yeah that's right I can start name calling too, excusing the opinions of others, and accusing you two of being trolls/retards/(insert insult to inflate ego.) Aren't I just the one with the most important opinion now huh?
no i understood completly
your put off because this seemingly useless item was placed into the game instead of a useful one, around christmas time wich haunts you as you have visions of horable balance occuring just before the holidays.
this useless item took ZERO development time
requires ZERO balance... it does nothing but amuse us crazies
and nothing would of been made in the time it took to do it
you would also like them to abide by some magical formula they can just plug numbers into and then BAM balanced weapon.
ive made games (albiet a different genre and medium) and i can tell you from a massive 10 year labor of trying to get such a system to work, scraping it, rebuilding it 20 odd times that its not possable to do without making everything a carbon copy of iteself with the only difference being paint job.
you simply cannot do what you think sould be done.
what you end up with is SW:TOR where everything in both factions is a direct mirror of the oposite faction with the only differences being the animation and name
so in order for your idea of matyhmatical balance to actually function there would be 2 copys of everything
one for shield, one for armor
one shield based suit layout one armor based suit layout and the painnt changes to add flavor
one shield based weapon for ever armor based weapon, the only difference between them being paint and mirrored damage profiles.
thats the only way it works, ive tryed everything else, my dev team tryed everything else, our 50+playtest group tryed everything else... nadda.
stop complaining about weapon balance in a thread about a weapon that does nothing (and isnt supposed to, its a ******* snowball launcher)
Minmatar is Winmatar
Creed of the Minja - "I'm a leaf on the wind"
I am Chances Ghost
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Booby Tuesdays
Ahrendee Mercenaries
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Posted - 2014.12.18 21:22:00 -
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Ghosts Chance wrote:TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote:
All of these critiques were directed at the absurd excuses I responded to. Taking things out of context is rather pointless. But for you and ghost who appear to be challenged in the skill of reading comprehension, i'll break this one down for you. The mathematical balance was addressed towards the notion that it would be hard to implement other weapons that they still haven't implemented variant wise. You two just keep falling back to arguments that have nothing to do with the current defense I was addressing. Use circular logic as hard you two want, but it won't make you sound more intelligent.
The conversation is literally in this quote chain, so I don't know how you two failed so hard to follow.
Edit: Yeah that's right I can start name calling too, excusing the opinions of others, and accusing you two of being trolls/retards/(insert insult to inflate ego.) Aren't I just the one with the most important opinion now huh?
no i understood completly your put off because this seemingly useless item was placed into the game instead of a useful one, around christmas time wich haunts you as you have visions of horable balance occuring just before the holidays. this useless item took ZERO development time requires ZERO balance... it does nothing but amuse us crazies and nothing would of been made in the time it took to do it you would also like them to abide by some magical formula they can just plug numbers into and then BAM balanced weapon. ive made games (albiet a different genre and medium) and i can tell you from a massive 10 year labor of trying to get such a system to work, scraping it, rebuilding it 20 odd times that its not possable to do without making everything a carbon copy of iteself with the only difference being paint job. you simply cannot do what you think sould be done. what you end up with is SW:TOR where everything in both factions is a direct mirror of the oposite faction with the only differences being the animation and name so in order for your idea of matyhmatical balance to actually function there would be 2 copys of everything one for shield, one for armor one shield based suit layout one armor based suit layout and the painnt changes to add flavor one shield based weapon for ever armor based weapon, the only difference between them being paint and mirrored damage profiles. thats the only way it works, ive tryed everything else, my dev team tryed everything else, our 50+playtest group tryed everything else... nadda. stop complaining about weapon balance in a thread about a weapon that does nothing (and isnt supposed to, its a ******* snowball launcher)
Stop. Feeding. The. Troll.
I can't make popcorn fast enough!!! 
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Ghosts Chance
Inf4m0us
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Posted - 2014.12.18 21:24:00 -
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Booby Tuesdays wrote:Stop. Feeding. The. Troll. I can't make popcorn fast enough!!!
GJR has tacos, he was sharing them earlyer, maybe hell deliver some to this thread soon.
Minmatar is Winmatar
Creed of the Minja - "I'm a leaf on the wind"
I am Chances Ghost
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Pseudogenesis
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2014.12.19 02:27:00 -
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TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote:DeathwindRising wrote:TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote:Holiday updates are all well and good but we don't even have all racial weapons and at the least racial types. I mean a breach RR ScR and CR are all just edits just like a snowball launcher. Likewise Tactical RR and CR as well as the Burst RR and ScR would be the same...
not to be a Scrooge here, but there are so many useful edits that a gimmicky edit seems like a waste of their apparent limited resources. youre being a scrooge during the holidays and should feel bad. that launcher was a much needed comic relief for the community and game in general. some of us take this game too seriously, its nice to relax and have a laugh. Well excuse me princess, for wanting this game to be a success that people will give a **** about instead of wanting to add a few chortles for 15 minutes from less than 3000 people. I know tons of people really find the hit detection and forge gunning for 0 damage to be just the funniest joke the world's ever seen. They want to add a holiday event with snow ball launchers? How about a special game mode where you use unlimited frontline fitted snowball launchers that ohko players in the game mode. No isk, no wp, just entertainment. If you're going to waste time might as well make it enjoyable. That's how you make an event.
Do you understand how software development works? This is literally as ******* simple as set color=white and set damage=0. Next to zero effort required. One person could do it.
How long do you think it would take for one person to make a game mode by themselves?
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Nestil
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