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Ghosts Chance
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Posted - 2014.12.18 12:18:00 -
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againnst proto stompers.
show em you truly give no fucks
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Ghosts Chance
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Posted - 2014.12.18 12:38:00 -
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TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote:Ghosts Chance wrote:againnst proto stompers.
show em you truly give no fucks Is that any specific variant or do you mean all variants? I find the standard to work all right but when it comes to driving everyone out of their hidey holes or else, you gotta bring the noise with the assault variant. Breach is for spit wadding vehicles or getting dem OHKOs on starter fits. Typically speaking though veteran proto stompers know to spaz the **** out while they spam their assault variant rifles when you use a breach MD, PLC, or Forge gun. I get lit up like a christmas tree everytime I run one of those things against proto stompers. Probably because anything else is a non-threat when you're strafe spazzing in full proto. Edit: Wait did they add new variants to the game? Haven't logged on yet... is the snowball launcher a new thing?
... it does 0 direct and 0 splash damage... and only comes in proto
Minmatar is Winmatar
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Ghosts Chance
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Posted - 2014.12.18 12:52:00 -
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TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote:Ghosts Chance wrote:TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote:Ghosts Chance wrote:againnst proto stompers.
show em you truly give no fucks Is that any specific variant or do you mean all variants? I find the standard to work all right but when it comes to driving everyone out of their hidey holes or else, you gotta bring the noise with the assault variant. Breach is for spit wadding vehicles or getting dem OHKOs on starter fits. Typically speaking though veteran proto stompers know to spaz the **** out while they spam their assault variant rifles when you use a breach MD, PLC, or Forge gun. I get lit up like a christmas tree everytime I run one of those things against proto stompers. Probably because anything else is a non-threat when you're strafe spazzing in full proto. Edit: Wait did they add new variants to the game? Haven't logged on yet... is the snowball launcher a new thing? ... it does 0 direct and 0 splash damage... and only comes in proto I'm guessing its a glitch? Did they **** with the current variants or is this some new variant? If so, then mother *******, lol! I just started respeccing into MDs. Already getting second hand ****** by them buffing AR even more to make it competitive against armor tanks as shield tanking is just becoming more of a joke as well.
no its literally a snowball launcher
Minmatar is Winmatar
Creed of the Minja - "I'm a leaf on the wind"
I am Chances Ghost
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Ghosts Chance
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Posted - 2014.12.18 12:55:00 -
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TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote:
A holiday joke?
dust version of the EvE snowball launcher
Minmatar is Winmatar
Creed of the Minja - "I'm a leaf on the wind"
I am Chances Ghost
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Ghosts Chance
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Posted - 2014.12.18 16:28:00 -
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hes a troll guys... his corp name is literally "the fun police"
this probably took someone 10 minuites to do
step one, take AUR proto mass driver skin step two, take shader for effect color that you just spent 2 months working on and remove all color fromm the projectile step three, savee to spreadsheet and watch as someone accuses you of wasting precious dev time on the forums.
the reality is that he was probably at work after hours screwing around when he made it so dont fret, no (billed) dev hours were wasted and it cost CCP no money to implement.
Minmatar is Winmatar
Creed of the Minja - "I'm a leaf on the wind"
I am Chances Ghost
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Ghosts Chance
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Posted - 2014.12.18 19:28:00 -
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TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote:Ghosts Chance wrote:hes a troll guys... his corp name is literally "the fun police"
this probably took someone 10 minuites to do
step one, take AUR proto mass driver skin step two, take shader for effect color that you just spent 2 months working on and remove all color fromm the projectile step three, savee to spreadsheet and watch as someone accuses you of wasting precious dev time on the forums.
the reality is that he was probably at work after hours screwing around when he made it so dont fret, no (billed) dev hours were wasted and it cost CCP no money to implement. If it is literally that easy to implement new weapons then that's embarrassing that we are still missing most of the variants of weapons. I'll defer to the launchers popularity in the actual game as to whether or not many people actually care. It's the CPM elections all over again. 6 people on the forum in a population of 3000 does not a majority make.
its that easy to implement a new weapon whos fitting, damage, splash, radius, rarity, and every other factor except for color do not matter to game balance.
Minmatar is Winmatar
Creed of the Minja - "I'm a leaf on the wind"
I am Chances Ghost
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Ghosts Chance
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Posted - 2014.12.18 19:42:00 -
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TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote:Ghosts Chance wrote:TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote:Ghosts Chance wrote:hes a troll guys... his corp name is literally "the fun police"
this probably took someone 10 minuites to do
step one, take AUR proto mass driver skin step two, take shader for effect color that you just spent 2 months working on and remove all color fromm the projectile step three, savee to spreadsheet and watch as someone accuses you of wasting precious dev time on the forums.
the reality is that he was probably at work after hours screwing around when he made it so dont fret, no (billed) dev hours were wasted and it cost CCP no money to implement. If it is literally that easy to implement new weapons then that's embarrassing that we are still missing most of the variants of weapons. I'll defer to the launchers popularity in the actual game as to whether or not many people actually care. It's the CPM elections all over again. 6 people on the forum in a population of 3000 does not a majority make. its that easy to implement a new weapon whos fitting, damage, splash, radius, rarity, and every other factor except for color do not matter to game balance. Wouldn't be hard if math was relied upon. People can knock it as much as they want about making fun of "Things on paper" but it wouldn't take long to establish mathematical balance. They just don't apply any rule set to how things function (IE. scrambler rifles and the TAR do not have remotely comparative stats and there's no good reason why they don't) that just being one example. This game has been a nightmare of kneejerk buff/nerf cycles with no real attempt to just balance by design instead of by Meta. I'd rather the Devs not implement anything right before the holidays (Knowing full well it will probably be buggy) and just go get drunk. I don't want a repeat of 1.7 last year where the devs dropped the vehicle rebalance then went on holiday. We had peaked up to around 4500 active then and nose dived to 1800 and now we still are below that time last year at 3000. Given that they decided to drop more rebalancing like buffing the AR even more I'd rather them focus on making sure it's all hunky dorey and not on a reskin of a weapon not everyone can use anyways.
like i said before... this is something a dev messed with while he wasnt on the clock, its just something they did to amuse themselves int heir off time and wanted to share. your not really entitled to ***** about this good sir
Minmatar is Winmatar
Creed of the Minja - "I'm a leaf on the wind"
I am Chances Ghost
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Ghosts Chance
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Posted - 2014.12.18 21:17:00 -
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TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote:
All of these critiques were directed at the absurd excuses I responded to. Taking things out of context is rather pointless. But for you and ghost who appear to be challenged in the skill of reading comprehension, i'll break this one down for you. The mathematical balance was addressed towards the notion that it would be hard to implement other weapons that they still haven't implemented variant wise. You two just keep falling back to arguments that have nothing to do with the current defense I was addressing. Use circular logic as hard you two want, but it won't make you sound more intelligent.
The conversation is literally in this quote chain, so I don't know how you two failed so hard to follow.
Edit: Yeah that's right I can start name calling too, excusing the opinions of others, and accusing you two of being trolls/retards/(insert insult to inflate ego.) Aren't I just the one with the most important opinion now huh?
no i understood completly
your put off because this seemingly useless item was placed into the game instead of a useful one, around christmas time wich haunts you as you have visions of horable balance occuring just before the holidays.
this useless item took ZERO development time requires ZERO balance... it does nothing but amuse us crazies and nothing would of been made in the time it took to do it
you would also like them to abide by some magical formula they can just plug numbers into and then BAM balanced weapon.
ive made games (albiet a different genre and medium) and i can tell you from a massive 10 year labor of trying to get such a system to work, scraping it, rebuilding it 20 odd times that its not possable to do without making everything a carbon copy of iteself with the only difference being paint job.
you simply cannot do what you think sould be done.
what you end up with is SW:TOR where everything in both factions is a direct mirror of the oposite faction with the only differences being the animation and name
so in order for your idea of matyhmatical balance to actually function there would be 2 copys of everything
one for shield, one for armor
one shield based suit layout one armor based suit layout and the painnt changes to add flavor one shield based weapon for ever armor based weapon, the only difference between them being paint and mirrored damage profiles.
thats the only way it works, ive tryed everything else, my dev team tryed everything else, our 50+playtest group tryed everything else... nadda.
stop complaining about weapon balance in a thread about a weapon that does nothing (and isnt supposed to, its a ******* snowball launcher)
Minmatar is Winmatar
Creed of the Minja - "I'm a leaf on the wind"
I am Chances Ghost
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Ghosts Chance
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Posted - 2014.12.18 21:24:00 -
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Booby Tuesdays wrote:Stop. Feeding. The. Troll. I can't make popcorn fast enough!!!
GJR has tacos, he was sharing them earlyer, maybe hell deliver some to this thread soon.
Minmatar is Winmatar
Creed of the Minja - "I'm a leaf on the wind"
I am Chances Ghost
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