If it is literally that easy to implement new weapons then that's embarrassing that we are still missing most of the variants of weapons. I'll defer to the launchers popularity in the actual game as to whether or not many people actually care. It's the CPM elections all over again. 6 people on the forum in a population of 3000 does not a majority make.

its that easy to implement a new weapon whos fitting, damage, splash, radius, rarity, and every other factor except for color do not matter to game balance.

Wouldn't be hard if math was relied upon. People can knock it as much as they want about making fun of "Things on paper" but it wouldn't take long to establish mathematical balance. They just don't apply any rule set to how things function (IE. scrambler rifles and the TAR do not have remotely comparative stats and there's no good reason why they don't) that just being one example. This game has been a nightmare of kneejerk buff/nerf cycles with no real attempt to just balance by design instead of by Meta.

I'd rather the Devs not implement anything right before the holidays (Knowing full well it will probably be buggy) and just go get drunk. I don't want a repeat of 1.7 last year where the devs dropped the vehicle rebalance then went on holiday. We had peaked up to around 4500 active then and nose dived to 1800 and now we still are below that time last year at 3000.

Given that they decided to drop more rebalancing like buffing the AR even more I'd rather them focus on making sure it's all hunky dorey and not on a reskin of a weapon not everyone can use anyways.

Wouldn't be hard if math was relied upon. People can knock it as much as they want about making fun of "Things on paper" but it wouldn't take long to establish mathematical balance. They just don't apply any rule set to how things function (IE. scrambler rifles and the TAR do not have remotely comparative stats and there's no good reason why they don't) that just being one example. This game has been a nightmare of kneejerk buff/nerf cycles with no real attempt to just balance by design instead of by Meta.

I'd rather the Devs not implement anything right before the holidays (Knowing full well it will probably be buggy) and just go get drunk. I don't want a repeat of 1.7 last year where the devs dropped the vehicle rebalance then went on holiday. We had peaked up to around 4500 active then and nose dived to 1800 and now we still are below that time last year at 3000.

Given that they decided to drop more rebalancing like buffing the AR even more I'd rather them focus on making sure it's all hunky dorey and not on a reskin of a weapon not everyone can use anyways.

Goodness gracious, sir. Give it up already.

A snowball launcher never requires any community feedback and extensive play testing over an entire week to get it right like a traditional mass driver does. Also, because you need community feedback and extensive play testing, relying on math alone is not going to be a guarantee that it will be balanced. Besides, snowball launchers were never meant to be balanced in the first place. IT'S A SNOWBALL LAUNCHER FOR CHRIST SAKE!

Well excuse me princess, for wanting this game to be a success that people will give a **** about instead of wanting to add a few chortles for 15 minutes from less than 3000 people. I know tons of people really find the hit detection and forge gunning for 0 damage to be just the funniest joke the world's ever seen.

They want to add a holiday event with snow ball launchers? How about a special game mode where you use unlimited frontline fitted snowball launchers that ohko players in the game mode. No isk, no wp, just entertainment. If you're going to waste time might as well make it enjoyable.

That's how you make an event.

All of these critiques were directed at the absurd excuses I responded to. Taking things out of context is rather pointless. But for you and ghost who appear to be challenged in the skill of reading comprehension, i'll break this one down for you. The mathematical balance was addressed towards the notion that it would be hard to implement other weapons that they still haven't implemented variant wise. You two just keep falling back to arguments that have nothing to do with the current defense I was addressing. Use circular logic as hard you two want, but it won't make you sound more intelligent.

The conversation is literally in this quote chain, so I don't know how you two failed so hard to follow.

Edit: Yeah that's right I can start name calling too, excusing the opinions of others, and accusing you two of being trolls/retards/(insert insult to inflate ego.) Aren't I just the one with the most important opinion now huh?

no i understood completly

your put off because this seemingly useless item was placed into the game instead of a useful one, around christmas time wich haunts you as you have visions of horable balance occuring just before the holidays.

this useless item took ZERO development time
requires ZERO balance... it does nothing but amuse us crazies
and nothing would of been made in the time it took to do it

you would also like them to abide by some magical formula they can just plug numbers into and then BAM balanced weapon.

ive made games (albiet a different genre and medium) and i can tell you from a massive 10 year labor of trying to get such a system to work, scraping it, rebuilding it 20 odd times that its not possable to do without making everything a carbon copy of iteself with the only difference being paint job.

you simply cannot do what you think sould be done.

what you end up with is SW:TOR where everything in both factions is a direct mirror of the oposite faction with the only differences being the animation and name

so in order for your idea of matyhmatical balance to actually function there would be 2 copys of everything

one for shield, one for armor

one shield based suit layout one armor based suit layout and the painnt changes to add flavor
one shield based weapon for ever armor based weapon, the only difference between them being paint and mirrored damage profiles.

thats the only way it works, ive tryed everything else, my dev team tryed everything else, our 50+playtest group tryed everything else... nadda.

stop complaining about weapon balance in a thread about a weapon that does nothing (and isnt supposed to, its a ******* snowball launcher)

Stop. Feeding. The. Troll.

I can't make popcorn fast enough!!!

Well excuse me princess, for wanting this game to be a success that people will give a **** about instead of wanting to add a few chortles for 15 minutes from less than 3000 people. I know tons of people really find the hit detection and forge gunning for 0 damage to be just the funniest joke the world's ever seen.

They want to add a holiday event with snow ball launchers? How about a special game mode where you use unlimited frontline fitted snowball launchers that ohko players in the game mode. No isk, no wp, just entertainment. If you're going to waste time might as well make it enjoyable.

That's how you make an event.