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![Summa Militum Summa Militum](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_gallente_128.jpg)
Summa Militum
Hidd3n Dragon
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Posted - 2014.12.17 17:09:00 -
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I would like for a skill to be added that allows you to increase your clip size.
They just lowered the clip size of my Breach Assault Rifle and I find that to be ridiculous. I would like a skill that would increase the clipsize by 10% each level.
What do you people think? |
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Atiim
Titans of Phoenix
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Posted - 2014.12.17 20:17:00 -
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That it would defeat the purpose.
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![Fizzer XCIV Fizzer XCIV](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_amarr_128.jpg)
Fizzer XCIV
Heaven's Lost Property Negative-Feedback
1386
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Posted - 2014.12.17 20:55:00 -
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Maybe you should stop using military grade weapons to hold your things in place?
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![Arkena Wyrnspire Arkena Wyrnspire](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/female_gallente_128.jpg)
Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
20301
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Posted - 2014.12.17 20:56:00 -
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A 50% clip size increase from a skill would be utterly obscene. No.
Also, no, because clip sizes are generally good atm.
Sometimes, one just has an overwhelming urge to throw a potato at someone.
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Hector Carson
Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire
107
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Posted - 2014.12.17 21:06:00 -
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Summa Militum wrote:I would like for a skill to be added that allows you to increase your clip size.
They just lowered the clip size of my Breach Assault Rifle and I find that to be ridiculous. I would like a skill that would increase the clipsize by 10% each level.
What do you people think? 3% would be acceptable
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![Pokey Dravon Pokey Dravon](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_caldari_128.jpg)
Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
4029
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Posted - 2014.12.17 21:34:00 -
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There is no way to do this that would be fair for all weapons.
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![Meee One Meee One](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_gallente_128.jpg)
Meee One
Amakakeru-Ryu-no-Hirameki
1399
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Posted - 2014.12.17 21:45:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:There is no way to do this that would be fair for all weapons. Especially HMGs
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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
4030
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Posted - 2014.12.17 21:50:00 -
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Meee One wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:There is no way to do this that would be fair for all weapons. Especially HMGs
At 3% a level Mass Driver 6 shots: Level V would give it 0.9 Shots Swarm Launcher 3 shots: Level V would give it 0.45 shots Breach Shotgun 2 shots: Level V would give it 0.3 shots Plasma Cannon 1 shot: Level V would give it 0.15 shots
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Alena Ventrallis
Vengeance Unbound
2301
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Posted - 2014.12.17 21:50:00 -
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Please, give my ARR more mag size. I dare you.
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Fizzer XCIV
Heaven's Lost Property Negative-Feedback
1386
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Posted - 2014.12.17 21:56:00 -
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This skill would be absolutely/practically useless for some weapons, and provide absurdly powerful bonuses to others.
Absolutely useless: Plasma Cannons. Flaylocks. Breach Shotgun. Breach Forgegun.
Practically useless: Scrambler Rifle Assault Scrambler Rifle. Laser Rifle. Ion Pistol.
Absurdly Powerful: Everything else.
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![Jadd Hatchen Jadd Hatchen](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_minmatar_128.jpg)
Jadd Hatchen
KILL-EM-QUICK
729
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Posted - 2014.12.17 22:11:00 -
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Summa Militum wrote:I would like for a skill to be added that allows you to increase your clip size.
They just lowered the clip size of my Breach Assault Rifle and I find that to be ridiculous. I would like a skill that would increase the clipsize by 10% each level.
What do you people think?
Are you dumb? Reducing the clip size was a counter-balance to INCREASING the damage per bullet!!! If you want larger clips, then run Minmatar with combat rifles.
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![Atiim Atiim](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_caldari_128.jpg)
Atiim
Titans of Phoenix
14551
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Posted - 2014.12.17 22:32:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:There is no way to do this that would be fair for all weapons. While I am opposed to the idea, I could think of one way:
+3% Increase To Magazine Size and +1 Increase To Launcher Weapon Magazine Size per Level.
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Fizzer XCIV
Heaven's Lost Property Negative-Feedback
1386
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Posted - 2014.12.17 22:37:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:There is no way to do this that would be fair for all weapons. While I am opposed to the idea, I could think of one way: +3% Increase To Magazine Size and +1 Increase To Launcher Weapon Magazine Size per Level. That would be insanely OP for Plasma Cannons, and would strongly devalue the Officer Plasma Cannon.
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Atiim
Titans of Phoenix
14552
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Posted - 2014.12.17 22:40:00 -
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Fizzer XCIV wrote:Atiim wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:There is no way to do this that would be fair for all weapons. While I am opposed to the idea, I could think of one way: +3% Increase To Magazine Size and +1 Increase To Launcher Weapon Magazine Size per Level. That would be insanely OP for Plasma Cannons, and would strongly devalue the Officer Plasma Cannon 6 round Alloteks pumping out 3336.7 DPS. The Splash Damage would out DPS an HMG.... You'd also get a 9 round Forge Gun, which means you can basically go to town with the AFG. I don't even want to know the horror that an 8 round Swarm Launcher would cause...
There's a reason why I said I'm opposed. ![Lol](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_lol.png)
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![TheEnd762 TheEnd762](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_gallente_128.jpg)
TheEnd762
SVER True Blood Public.Disorder.
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Posted - 2014.12.17 22:43:00 -
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How about a different skill with different bonus amounts for each weapon, so they can be scaled accordingly? |
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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
4032
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Posted - 2014.12.17 23:15:00 -
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TheEnd762 wrote:How about a different skill with different bonus amounts for each weapon, so they can be scaled accordingly?
How would that work for a Plasma cannon such that each level of the skill was useful? Or a Breach Shotgun? Or Swarm Launcher? Even at +1 per level the skill would be horrifically overpowered.
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Atiim
Titans of Phoenix
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Posted - 2014.12.17 23:17:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:TheEnd762 wrote:How about a different skill with different bonus amounts for each weapon, so they can be scaled accordingly? How would that work for a Plasma cannon such that each level of the skill was useful? Or a Breach Shotgun? Or Swarm Launcher? Even at +1 per level the skill would be horrifically overpowered. Not only that, but it makes weapons very difficult to balance against each-other.
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TheEnd762
SVER True Blood Public.Disorder.
679
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Posted - 2014.12.17 23:21:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:TheEnd762 wrote:How about a different skill with different bonus amounts for each weapon, so they can be scaled accordingly? How would that work for a Plasma cannon such that each level of the skill was useful? Or a Breach Shotgun? Or Swarm Launcher? Even at +1 per level the skill would be horrifically overpowered.
Just don't have mag capacity skills for those weapons. Not every weapon has sharpshooter. |
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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
4032
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Posted - 2014.12.17 23:31:00 -
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TheEnd762 wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:TheEnd762 wrote:How about a different skill with different bonus amounts for each weapon, so they can be scaled accordingly? How would that work for a Plasma cannon such that each level of the skill was useful? Or a Breach Shotgun? Or Swarm Launcher? Even at +1 per level the skill would be horrifically overpowered. Just don't have mag capacity skills for those weapons. Not every weapon has sharpshooter.
And for weapons that are limited by small magazines such as the Combat rifle? This still would remove the primary factor that keeps them balanced.
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Fizzer XCIV
Heaven's Lost Property Negative-Feedback
1390
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Posted - 2014.12.17 23:33:00 -
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TheEnd762 wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:TheEnd762 wrote:How about a different skill with different bonus amounts for each weapon, so they can be scaled accordingly? How would that work for a Plasma cannon such that each level of the skill was useful? Or a Breach Shotgun? Or Swarm Launcher? Even at +1 per level the skill would be horrifically overpowered. Just don't have mag capacity skills for those weapons. Not every weapon has sharpshooter. The skill would just be OP for basically every weapon.
It would become like the old sharpshooter in Chromosome. Everyone would need it to be competitive, and it would create an absurdly large gap between noob and vet. Even if it was something as small as 2-3% per level.
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TheEnd762
SVER True Blood Public.Disorder.
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Posted - 2014.12.18 00:34:00 -
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Fizzer XCIV wrote:The skill would just be OP for basically every weapon.
True. There's only one weapon I can think of that it wouldn't be OP for. The Charge Sniper. Like if level 5 mag capacity allowed for a 5 round magazine. |
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Leadfoot10
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.12.18 01:21:00 -
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The BAR had a ridiculous clip that has since been fixed. It remains to be seen if the pendulum went too far the other way.
I'm not sure that a clip size skill would do anything but broaden the gap between low and high SP players.
Therefore, I do not support the idea. If the clip size nerf was too strong, we should fix that first rather than introduce a new skill/dynamic to the game (and further rebalancing).
IMO of course. ![Big smile](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_smile-big.png) |
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CCP Rattati
C C P C C P Alliance
13850
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Posted - 2014.12.18 03:31:00 -
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We have contemplated an ammo module.
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DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency
6456
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Posted - 2014.12.18 03:39:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:We have contemplated an ammo module. Would you automatically regenerate ammo?
I'm down for that.
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Fizzer XCIV
Heaven's Lost Property Negative-Feedback
1390
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Posted - 2014.12.18 03:40:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:We have contemplated an ammo module.
See guys! A reasonable solution! By making it a module that you have to equip and sacrifice a slot, instead of a passive skill, it suddenly becomes a good idea.
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Fizzer XCIV
Heaven's Lost Property Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2014.12.18 03:41:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:We have contemplated an ammo module. Would you automatically regenerate ammo? I'm down for that. That would make an awesome module. It would have to be a very slow regenation, so it doesn't make Nanohives useless, but it could be balanced.
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Aeon Amadi
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.12.18 05:49:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:We have contemplated an ammo module. Would you automatically regenerate ammo? I'm down for that.
Could be a low slot module, give Shield Tankers a lot of room to stay out on the field and continue hit-and-run style attacks. In fact, that'd be about perfect IMO. Armor Tankers are in it for the short term, taking damage and dealing it whereas Shield Tankers are able to continue an engagement for as long as they'd like. Like a really annoying vulture.
Caldari Commando Snipers would be really interesting as well.
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thehellisgoingon
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
84
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Posted - 2014.12.18 06:03:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:We have contemplated an ammo module.
And..... |
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Meee One
Amakakeru-Ryu-no-Hirameki
1399
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Posted - 2014.12.18 11:33:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:We have contemplated an ammo module. How about an equipment?
Assaults could get fitting reduction to it. And it wouldn't harm their tank,just their ability to support. (This could help logistics get more desireable too. )
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Zindorak
G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance
1421
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Posted - 2014.12.18 12:19:00 -
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Yas i would like one idk why my scrambler rifle's ammo capacity was lowered. It was fine where it was
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