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Summa Militum Hidd3n Dragon 127	Posted - 2014.12.17 17:09:00 - [1] - Quote I would like for a skill to be added that allows you to increase your clip size. They just lowered the clip size of my Breach Assault Rifle and I find that to be ridiculous. I would like a skill that would increase the clipsize by 10% each level. What do you people think?
Atiim Titans of Phoenix 14548	Posted - 2014.12.17 20:17:00 - [2] - Quote That it would defeat the purpose. The 1st Matari Commando -HAND
Fizzer XCIV Heaven's Lost Property Negative-Feedback 1386	Posted - 2014.12.17 20:55:00 - [3] - Quote Maybe you should stop using military grade weapons to hold your things in place? Please, make my Opus pretty...
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 20301	Posted - 2014.12.17 20:56:00 - [4] - Quote A 50% clip size increase from a skill would be utterly obscene. No. Also, no, because clip sizes are generally good atm. Sometimes, one just has an overwhelming urge to throw a potato at someone.
Hector Carson Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire 107	Posted - 2014.12.17 21:06:00 - [5] - Quote Summa Militum wrote: I would like for a skill to be added that allows you to increase your clip size. They just lowered the clip size of my Breach Assault Rifle and I find that to be ridiculous. I would like a skill that would increase the clipsize by 10% each level. What do you people think? 3% would be acceptable My Corp fights for whoever has money, Primarily PC battles
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 4029	Posted - 2014.12.17 21:34:00 - [6] - Quote There is no way to do this that would be fair for all weapons. "That little s**t Pokey..." --CCP Rattati, Biomassed Episode 032 Dust514 // Podcast www.biomassed.net
Meee One Amakakeru-Ryu-no-Hirameki 1399	Posted - 2014.12.17 21:45:00 - [7] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: There is no way to do this that would be fair for all weapons. Especially HMGs Official Blueberry of the Forums. Title given by my #1 fan Sgt Kirk.
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 4030	Posted - 2014.12.17 21:50:00 - [8] - Quote Meee One wrote: Pokey Dravon wrote: There is no way to do this that would be fair for all weapons. Especially HMGs At 3% a level Mass Driver 6 shots: Level V would give it 0.9 Shots Swarm Launcher 3 shots: Level V would give it 0.45 shots Breach Shotgun 2 shots: Level V would give it 0.3 shots Plasma Cannon 1 shot: Level V would give it 0.15 shots "That little s**t Pokey..." --CCP Rattati, Biomassed Episode 032 Dust514 // Podcast www.biomassed.net
Alena Ventrallis Vengeance Unbound 2301	Posted - 2014.12.17 21:50:00 - [9] - Quote Please, give my ARR more mag size. I dare you. Do not go gentle into that good night; Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
Fizzer XCIV Heaven's Lost Property Negative-Feedback 1386	Posted - 2014.12.17 21:56:00 - [10] - Quote This skill would be absolutely/practically useless for some weapons, and provide absurdly powerful bonuses to others. Absolutely useless: Plasma Cannons. Flaylocks. Breach Shotgun. Breach Forgegun. Practically useless: Scrambler Rifle Assault Scrambler Rifle. Laser Rifle. Ion Pistol. Absurdly Powerful: Everything else. Please, make my Opus pretty...

Jadd Hatchen KILL-EM-QUICK 729	Posted - 2014.12.17 22:11:00 - [11] - Quote Summa Militum wrote: I would like for a skill to be added that allows you to increase your clip size. They just lowered the clip size of my Breach Assault Rifle and I find that to be ridiculous. I would like a skill that would increase the clipsize by 10% each level. What do you people think? Are you dumb? Reducing the clip size was a counter-balance to INCREASING the damage per bullet!!! If you want larger clips, then run Minmatar with combat rifles.
Atiim Titans of Phoenix 14551	Posted - 2014.12.17 22:32:00 - [12] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: There is no way to do this that would be fair for all weapons. While I am opposed to the idea, I could think of one way: +3% Increase To Magazine Size and +1 Increase To Launcher Weapon Magazine Size per Level. The 1st Matari Commando -HAND
Fizzer XCIV Heaven's Lost Property Negative-Feedback 1386	Posted - 2014.12.17 22:37:00 - [13] - Quote Atiim wrote: Pokey Dravon wrote: There is no way to do this that would be fair for all weapons. While I am opposed to the idea, I could think of one way: +3% Increase To Magazine Size and +1 Increase To Launcher Weapon Magazine Size per Level. That would be insanely OP for Plasma Cannons, and would strongly devalue the Officer Plasma Cannon. Please, make my Opus pretty...
Atiim Titans of Phoenix 14552	Posted - 2014.12.17 22:40:00 - [14] - Quote Fizzer XCIV wrote: Atiim wrote: Pokey Dravon wrote: There is no way to do this that would be fair for all weapons. While I am opposed to the idea, I could think of one way: +3% Increase To Magazine Size and +1 Increase To Launcher Weapon Magazine Size per Level. That would be insanely OP for Plasma Cannons, and would strongly devalue the Officer Plasma Cannon 6 round Alloteks pumping out 3336.7 DPS. The Splash Damage would out DPS an HMG.... You'd also get a 9 round Forge Gun, which means you can basically go to town with the AFG. I don't even want to know the horror that an 8 round Swarm Launcher would cause... There's a reason why I said I'm opposed. The 1st Matari Commando -HAND
TheEnd762 SVER True Blood Public.Disorder. 679	Posted - 2014.12.17 22:43:00 - [15] - Quote How about a different skill with different bonus amounts for each weapon, so they can be scaled accordingly?
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 4032	Posted - 2014.12.17 23:15:00 - [16] - Quote TheEnd762 wrote: How about a different skill with different bonus amounts for each weapon, so they can be scaled accordingly? How would that work for a Plasma cannon such that each level of the skill was useful? Or a Breach Shotgun? Or Swarm Launcher? Even at +1 per level the skill would be horrifically overpowered. "That little s**t Pokey..." --CCP Rattati, Biomassed Episode 032 Dust514 // Podcast www.biomassed.net
Atiim Titans of Phoenix 14552	Posted - 2014.12.17 23:17:00 - [17] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: TheEnd762 wrote: How about a different skill with different bonus amounts for each weapon, so they can be scaled accordingly? How would that work for a Plasma cannon such that each level of the skill was useful? Or a Breach Shotgun? Or Swarm Launcher? Even at +1 per level the skill would be horrifically overpowered. Not only that, but it makes weapons very difficult to balance against each-other. The 1st Matari Commando -HAND
TheEnd762 SVER True Blood Public.Disorder. 679	Posted - 2014.12.17 23:21:00 - [18] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: TheEnd762 wrote: How about a different skill with different bonus amounts for each weapon, so they can be scaled accordingly? How would that work for a Plasma cannon such that each level of the skill was useful? Or a Breach Shotgun? Or Swarm Launcher? Even at +1 per level the skill would be horrifically overpowered. Just don't have mag capacity skills for those weapons. Not every weapon has sharpshooter.
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 4032	Posted - 2014.12.17 23:31:00 - [19] - Quote TheEnd762 wrote: Pokey Dravon wrote: TheEnd762 wrote: How about a different skill with different bonus amounts for each weapon, so they can be scaled accordingly? How would that work for a Plasma cannon such that each level of the skill was useful? Or a Breach Shotgun? Or Swarm Launcher? Even at +1 per level the skill would be horrifically overpowered. Just don't have mag capacity skills for those weapons. Not every weapon has sharpshooter. And for weapons that are limited by small magazines such as the Combat rifle? This still would remove the primary factor that keeps them balanced. "That little s**t Pokey..." --CCP Rattati, Biomassed Episode 032 Dust514 // Podcast www.biomassed.net
Fizzer XCIV Heaven's Lost Property Negative-Feedback 1390	Posted - 2014.12.17 23:33:00 - [20] - Quote TheEnd762 wrote: Pokey Dravon wrote: TheEnd762 wrote: How about a different skill with different bonus amounts for each weapon, so they can be scaled accordingly? How would that work for a Plasma cannon such that each level of the skill was useful? Or a Breach Shotgun? Or Swarm Launcher? Even at +1 per level the skill would be horrifically overpowered. Just don't have mag capacity skills for those weapons. Not every weapon has sharpshooter. The skill would just be OP for basically every weapon. It would become like the old sharpshooter in Chromosome. Everyone would need it to be competitive, and it would create an absurdly large gap between noob and vet. Even if it was something as small as 2-3% per level. Please, make my Opus pretty...

TheEnd762 SVER True Blood Public.Disorder. 679	Posted - 2014.12.18 00:34:00 - [21] - Quote Fizzer XCIV wrote: The skill would just be OP for basically every weapon. True. There's only one weapon I can think of that it wouldn't be OP for. The Charge Sniper. Like if level 5 mag capacity allowed for a 5 round magazine.
Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 2678	Posted - 2014.12.18 01:21:00 - [22] - Quote The BAR had a ridiculous clip that has since been fixed. It remains to be seen if the pendulum went too far the other way. I'm not sure that a clip size skill would do anything but broaden the gap between low and high SP players. Therefore, I do not support the idea. If the clip size nerf was too strong, we should fix that first rather than introduce a new skill/dynamic to the game (and further rebalancing). IMO of course.

CCP Rattati C C P C C P Alliance 13850	Posted - 2014.12.18 03:31:00 - [23] - Quote We have contemplated an ammo module. "As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"

DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency 6456	Posted - 2014.12.18 03:39:00 - [24] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: We have contemplated an ammo module. Would you automatically regenerate ammo? I'm down for that. Put your flags up in the sky. And wave them side to side. Show the world where you're from. Show the world we are one.
Fizzer XCIV Heaven's Lost Property Negative-Feedback 1390	Posted - 2014.12.18 03:40:00 - [25] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: We have contemplated an ammo module. See guys! A reasonable solution! By making it a module that you have to equip and sacrifice a slot, instead of a passive skill, it suddenly becomes a good idea. Please, make my Opus pretty...
Fizzer XCIV Heaven's Lost Property Negative-Feedback 1390	Posted - 2014.12.18 03:41:00 - [26] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: We have contemplated an ammo module. Would you automatically regenerate ammo? I'm down for that. That would make an awesome module. It would have to be a very slow regenation, so it doesn't make Nanohives useless, but it could be balanced. Please, make my Opus pretty...
Aeon Amadi Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 7478	Posted - 2014.12.18 05:49:00 - [27] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: We have contemplated an ammo module. Would you automatically regenerate ammo? I'm down for that. Could be a low slot module, give Shield Tankers a lot of room to stay out on the field and continue hit-and-run style attacks. In fact, that'd be about perfect IMO. Armor Tankers are in it for the short term, taking damage and dealing it whereas Shield Tankers are able to continue an engagement for as long as they'd like. Like a really annoying vulture. Caldari Commando Snipers would be really interesting as well. Long-Term Roadmap More Hard Questions
thehellisgoingon The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 84	Posted - 2014.12.18 06:03:00 - [28] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: We have contemplated an ammo module. And.....
Meee One Amakakeru-Ryu-no-Hirameki 1399	Posted - 2014.12.18 11:33:00 - [29] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: We have contemplated an ammo module. How about an equipment? Assaults could get fitting reduction to it. And it wouldn't harm their tank,just their ability to support. (This could help logistics get more desireable too.) Official Blueberry of the Forums. Title given by my #1 fan Sgt Kirk.
Zindorak G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 1421	Posted - 2014.12.18 12:19:00 - [30] - Quote Yas i would like one idk why my scrambler rifle's ammo capacity was lowered. It was fine where it was Pokemon master and Tekken Lord Give me da iskiez Gk0 Scout yay :)

Kallas Hallytyr Skullbreakers 1150	Posted - 2014.12.18 12:50:00 - [31] - Quote Meee One wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: We have contemplated an ammo module. How about an equipment? Assaults could get fitting reduction to it. And it wouldn't harm their tank,just their ability to support. (This could help logistics get more desireable too.) That's a Nanohive... If it's a module there are three notions that come to mind: - slow regeneration of ammo: personally I dislike as it devalues the ammo capacity skill and nanohives, and if too low would be pretty worthless. - spare ammo extension: total ammo reserve is increased by X%, letting you fight for longer but having no direct combat ability. - clip size extension: dangerous, like the skill. Applied to certain weapons would be borderline (or actually way over) OP (Kubo's PLC with like four shots anyone?) or entirely pointless (the ScR, which can never really fire its full clip anyway so you might as well reload.) Personally, I only really see the reserve ammo module being reasonably balanced. In its own way it would actually buff nanohives used by that player (whether friendly or enemy) since nanohives grant ammo as a percentage - a larger reserve gives a larger amount restored per pulse, meaning yo don't need to top up to full, so that hive stays longer. Alt of Halla Murr. Sentinel.
Tesfa Alem Death by Disassociation 635	Posted - 2014.12.18 12:59:00 - [32] - Quote Its called the Minmatar Assault. Redline for Thee, but no Redline for Me.
Devadander Woodgrain Atari 166	Posted - 2014.12.18 13:32:00 - [33] - Quote Alena Ventrallis wrote: Please, give my ARR more mag size. I dare you. "Tossin uplinks and runnin fer my life" ~ Gunny blownapart "Lets group up and push an objective" ~ No blueberry ever
Slave of MORTE Eyniletti Rangers Minmatar Republic 144	Posted - 2014.12.18 13:41:00 - [34] - Quote The only fair way to increase clip size or provide the option would for it not to be a skill but an item .. If weapons had specialized parts that could be placed In sockets on the weapon for an enhancement to one stat at the cost of another For example scopes clips barrel mods crystals (lasers) It could easy be made balanced but I know nothing like that will ever be in dust Yet another slave of Mortedeamor
Slave of MORTE Eyniletti Rangers Minmatar Republic 144	Posted - 2014.12.18 13:43:00 - [35] - Quote Fizzer XCIV wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: We have contemplated an ammo module. See guys! A reasonable solution! By making it a module that you have to equip and sacrifice a slot, instead of a passive skill, it suddenly becomes a good idea. Could be doable Yet another slave of Mortedeamor
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides Learning Alliance 5479	Posted - 2014.12.18 15:50:00 - [36] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: We have contemplated an ammo module. Would you automatically regenerate ammo? I'm down for that. I think it just means you could carry more ammo. Like the ammo modules for vehicles. Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
CommanderBolt KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 2852	Posted - 2014.12.18 16:25:00 - [37] - Quote Atiim wrote: Fizzer XCIV wrote: Atiim wrote: Pokey Dravon wrote: There is no way to do this that would be fair for all weapons. While I am opposed to the idea, I could think of one way: +3% Increase To Magazine Size and +1 Increase To Launcher Weapon Magazine Size per Level. That would be insanely OP for Plasma Cannons, and would strongly devalue the Officer Plasma Cannon 6 round Alloteks pumping out 3336.7 DPS. The Splash Damage would out DPS an HMG.... You'd also get a 9 round Forge Gun, which means you can basically go to town with the AFG. I don't even want to know the horror that an 8 round Swarm Launcher would cause... There's a reason why I said I'm opposed. No no no, you want more swarms and I would love to have more plasma and more forge. This is clearly a balanced proposal "Also I think knives are a good idea, big f**k-off shiny ones" "Guns for show, Knives for a pro" MY LIFE FOR AIUR!
Soldner VonKuechle SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance 1036	Posted - 2014.12.18 17:05:00 - [38] - Quote Slave of MORTE wrote: Fizzer XCIV wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: We have contemplated an ammo module. See guys! A reasonable solution! By making it a module that you have to equip and sacrifice a slot, instead of a passive skill, it suddenly becomes a good idea. Could be doable I fore see cal sentinel with all dmg mods in highs and clip extenders in lows with asfg on a roof This is different from now, how? Fack it, might as well board the hype-train again. At least there's tracks this time.
Summa Militum Hidd3n Dragon 130	Posted - 2014.12.18 17:55:00 - [39] - Quote If need be the ammo increase per level can vary depending on the weapon; the HMG would get less per level than a shotgun or assault rifle. I just want a way to fix the ammo amount of my Breach Assault Rifle. The clip was dropped and the total ammo capacity was cut in half. All this is supposed to be justified with a slight damage increase, so slight it is not even worth anything.
Hector Carson Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire 108	Posted - 2014.12.18 18:10:00 - [40] - Quote Alena Ventrallis wrote: Please, give my ARR more mag size. I dare you. Ya there gonna leave RR out of it there OP already no need to add to it My Corp fights for whoever has money, Primarily PC battles

DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency 6468	Posted - 2014.12.18 19:40:00 - [41] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: We have contemplated an ammo module. Would you automatically regenerate ammo? I'm down for that. Could be a low slot module, give Shield Tankers a lot of room to stay out on the field and continue hit-and-run style attacks. In fact, that'd be about perfect IMO. Armor Tankers are in it for the short term, taking damage and dealing it whereas Shield Tankers are able to continue an engagement for as long as they'd like. Like a really annoying vulture. Caldari Commando Snipers would be really interesting as well. Yep. The Caldari Commando would be ridiculous but awesome. It would most benefit the Assault class while helping the Caldari the most since they tend to have low ammo pools and a low rate of fire. I actually remember one of my first ideas back in beta was a module that resupplied ammo. Everyone said it would be OP or would make logis redundant. Well, they were and still are wrong. Put your flags up in the sky. And wave them side to side. Show the world where you're from. Show the world we are one.
Beren Hurin Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 2463	Posted - 2014.12.18 20:19:00 - [42] - Quote What if it was more as personal equipment in an equipment slot?
Soldner VonKuechle SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance 1037	Posted - 2014.12.18 20:25:00 - [43] - Quote Beren Hurin wrote: What if it was more as personal equipment in an equipment slot? Like a nanohive? Or more like a nanohive you didn't have to deploy? Fack it, might as well board the hype-train again. At least there's tracks this time.
Apocalyptic Destroyerr Shining Flame Amarr Empire 30	Posted - 2014.12.18 22:32:00 - [44] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: We have contemplated an ammo module. Make sure it's a high slot module, dingus. Make more modules that fit the highs.
lateriss ObscuriLateris 16	Posted - 2014.12.18 23:45:00 - [45] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: We have contemplated an ammo module. That would be awesome. >...>


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