I keep hearing from various players that heavy weapons HAVE to be better than Light weapons.

me:"the hmg has too much dps"
Guy: "It is a heavy weapon, it has to be stronger."

I hear players talking about new heavy lazor like a laser rifle but 2x stronger.

I think Heavy should only mean "different", there is nothing that says Heavy means "better".

HMG is broken even when there is a red in the big circle if he/she isnt in in the dead center little circle no damage will be applied. just because its a Heavy weapon why should it mean better than light weapon? weapons should be situational. people who complain about the HMG need to learn not to stand out in the open learn to strafe.

HMG is broken even when there is a red in the big circle if he/she isnt in in the dead center little circle no damage will be applied.

HMG is broken even when there is a red in the big circle if he/she isnt in in the dead center little circle no damage will be applied. just because its a Heavy weapon why should it mean better than light weapon? weapons should be situational. people who complain about the HMG need to learn not to stand out in the open learn to strafe.

Heavy-Heavier-Stronger-Better damage,but slows you down. Ya the weapon should do more damage,its a freaken machine gun. Devastatingly damage love.

I keep hearing from various players that heavy weapons HAVE to be better than Light weapons.

me:"the hmg has too much dps"
Guy: "It is a heavy weapon, it has to be stronger."

I hear players talking about new heavy lazor like a laser rifle but 2x stronger.

I think Heavy should only mean "different", there is nothing that says Heavy means "better".

Do not start talking about real life things, ffs! So why doesnt the hmg slow down the Sentinel?

Also, it's worth noting that if you aren't going to give heavy weapons some sort of advantage over light weapons, you'll see a return to the 1,600HP monsters wielding rail rifles that will laugh as you take them on at 70m with an assault/scout suit.

I think Heavy should only mean "different", there is nothing that says Heavy means "better".

Not always that easy when the objective is CQC a whopping 5-10m of room. Assaults and logis aren't all fast not like scouts, not every class can out strafe an hmg. And a heavy laser doing 2x as much damage as a light laser? That's not screaming OP at all.

It's almost as if you're supposed to well you know, aim the weapon.

most people that give me problems are the KB/M players ( not saying that KB/M is OP or anyhing) even i have noticed a difference in movement compared to teh DS3

*sigh*

As usual, poorly informed (or plain ignorant) people are regurgitating myths and fabrications. But then again, this is GD, the cesspit of the DUST forums, so I shouldn't even be surprised.

In any case, no, the KB/M has never allowed players to "super strafe" or have superior movement in any way compared to those players using the DS3.

What you are actually witnessing is the increasing number of players who are abusing the strafe glitch, wherein it is possible for certain suits to strafe fast enough that they actually break hit detection. This is most prevalent on the Caldari Scout, though that is purely due to the lack of plates that it will sport as well as its greater prevalence over the Minja.

All scout suits, due to their base speed, can be used to abuse the strafe glitch. The shield-based Assaults (IE, CalSalt and MinSalt) can also be used to abuse the strafe glitch.

There is also the fact that circle strafing and figure-8 strafing using a DS3 (as circle strafing is very difficult on a KB/M, and figure-8 strafes might as well be impossible when using KB/M) leverages the varying movement speed between walking forward, backward, and strafing side-to-side. While this (usually) doesn't result in breaking hitreg like strafe glitching does, it's very difficult to properly track someone who's doing one of these maneuvers.

As someone who uses the KB/M, I can confidently say that any claims about KB/M movement superiority are completely false. Seriously, I tried to get it to work the way you claim, and it just doesn't.

Consider yourself educated.

Fatties can't run, they hobble. But their weapons tear holes in you faster than chipotle. But I'm still faster than them and their weapons.

You ever try using the minmatar heavy?

I keep hearing from various players that heavy weapons HAVE to be better than Light weapons.

me:"the hmg has too much dps"
Guy: "It is a heavy weapon, it has to be stronger."

I hear players talking about new heavy lazor like a laser rifle but 2x stronger.

I think Heavy should only mean "different", there is nothing that says Heavy means "better".

that problem was fixed so it isnt the case anymore, anyway this thread isnt about "hmg is op". You answered my question.


Do not start talking about real life things, ffs! So why doesnt the hmg slow down the Sentinel?