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CCP Rattati wrote:

deezy dabest wrote:

CRAZY IDEA

Im gonna make some wild guesses here.

1. Strongboxes are for selling AUR. (not much guessing on that one)
2. Daily missions are meant to reward people who actually play as oppose to AFK.
3. Daily missions are an excellent way to train new players in the game a little bit.

Assuming these are correct guesses on some of the intended goals would it not be better to drop the "random" salvage aspect and either base it on a ratio or participation (matches / wins /kills / warpoints) or just drop it from the idea of salvage completely and improve that system while giving out more keys in missions and maybe even as a daily login bonus.

FEEDBACK

Aside from the key drops we are discussing here I really enjoy the overall system. Missions give you something to think about in matches aside from the repetitive nature of run, shoot, and hack. They are a nice distraction and I am sure they will help with NPE quite a bit.

All these are correct and describe the intent fully. The mainstay was to increase new player retention, and provide goals for intermediate players. Veteran players can acquire rare weapons and gear. We plan to add to this lifetime merits or achievements, hopefully we can implement a lifetime stats with goodies like "heavies killed", vehicles destroyed etc

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Fox Gaden Immortal Guides Learning Alliance 5390	Posted - 2014.12.11 17:14:00 - [31] - Quote Oh, and I think that some boxes should contain keys... Like when you win your dolor back on a scratch and win lottery ticket. Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
Darth-Carbonite GIO Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 1323	Posted - 2014.12.11 17:58:00 - [32] - Quote Fox Gaden wrote: Oh, and I think that some boxes should contain keys... Like when you win your dolor back on a scratch and win lottery ticket. This. GIMMIE MY PINK LAZOR
Kayla Michael Tactical Logistics and Cargo 50	Posted - 2014.12.11 18:28:00 - [33] - Quote I want a free key. I eat drahp uplink, me thinks this isn't a cookie. `~`
Kayla Michael Tactical Logistics and Cargo 50	Posted - 2014.12.11 18:30:00 - [34] - Quote Kuruld Sengar wrote: Denchlad 7 wrote: saimone wolf allegedly obtained the Balac's Modified Assault ck.0 from a Strongbox. This makes me angry and happy. Wait Wait Wait... Is this the "ultra rare box only" salvage ccp eluded to? All the boxes with stuff in them remind me of Mass Effect 3 Online. I eat drahp uplink, me thinks this isn't a cookie. `~`
jace silencerww D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 107	Posted - 2014.12.11 18:36:00 - [35] - Quote among my main and 2 alts I have 50+ strongboxes and ZERO keys found (both in daily and salvage) LOL right great job with the strongboxes... NOT! it is a joke. at least let us turn off that stupid orange thing PLEASE!
Michael Epic Bragian Order Amarr Empire 366	Posted - 2014.12.11 18:49:00 - [36] - Quote I got one hacked encryption box key (I think that's what it was) with a yellow'ish icon with brighter spots of yellow or orange on it I don't remember and I got that within the first 3 matches I played on update day. I have no clue what it does though or where I got it from ?
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 3950	Posted - 2014.12.11 18:55:00 - [37] - Quote Bright Cloud wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: There are definitely keys in the salvage. If everyone was getting officers in the Strongboxes, everytime, I believe there would be much rage. Keep earning and using those free keys, and you will see that there are great drops in there, and at least ine ultra rare item that is not in EOM salvage. Kinda funny how you blatantly copy pasted the COD supply drops and added a twist to them. Sad that you went with the addiction method of constant "little potential rewards". The idea of lockboxes/items that drop from battle and need to be unlocked/decoded/ect. is not a new concept in general. Diablo, Destiny, Phantasy Star Online, Torchlight, ect. ect. It's a common idea, all "copy pasted with a twist" from each other. "That little s**t Pokey..." --CCP Rattati, Biomassed Episode 032
Middas Betancore Kang Lo Directorate 280	Posted - 2014.12.11 19:03:00 - [38] - Quote Looted no keys Had a mission to get 2 Have 45 unopened boxes... Looted 7,6,1 in consecutive pubs....ok....il take em Opened 2 for 7 frontline mk2 GALLENTE!!! Grrrr CCP trolling me 51 tsunami mass driver....meh something for the grinder I get with 43 boxes left, il prob buy some keys "Deploy the gas, we'll burn what's left"- Redacted
Luther Mandrix WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men. 385	Posted - 2014.12.11 19:04:00 - [39] - Quote No key received yet
CrotchGrab 360 Yon Hyaku Nijuu Moyase 1641	Posted - 2014.12.11 19:12:00 - [40] - Quote who is making all of these money grabbing decisions? who in their right mind at CCP put making money through microtransactions before improving the game? adding things to buy does NOT make a game any better!!! DUST VIDEOS
Mad Greasemonkey The Scope Gallente Federation 12	Posted - 2014.12.11 19:16:00 - [41] - Quote I got a key from one of the daily missions... but doing those missions, i got 35 boxes in salvage... lol in the box i opened I got 35 enh. shield extenders... LOL It took me 3 hours to complete the missions (destroing installations)...
Outlaw OneZero Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 1568	Posted - 2014.12.11 19:26:00 - [42] - Quote 17 Boxes from salvage and missions, 2 keys from completing a mission. I'm going to have a lot of unopened boxes at this rate... Hello, is this thing on?
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 20049	Posted - 2014.12.11 19:38:00 - [43] - Quote It's a nice thing, honestly, but I'm now past 40 boxes across my characters versus 3 keys. The Federation is not a defined region of space, of planets, of mountains, rivers, or woods. It is a vision.
Aidualc LATINOS KILLERS CORP Dark Taboo 19	Posted - 2014.12.11 19:46:00 - [44] - Quote Maybe if there is another way to open de boxes... could be more fun. Same Minigame in EVE - Hacking Reliques, search the right path but if you fail.. bloom... box destroyed... and if you really want the content... pay the key.
Aidualc LATINOS KILLERS CORP Dark Taboo 19	Posted - 2014.12.11 19:49:00 - [45] - Quote Maybe if there is another way to open de boxes... could be more fun. Same Minigame in EVE - Hacking , search the right path but if you fail.. bloom... box destroyed... and if you really want the content... pay the key.
Ghost Kaisar Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 8787	Posted - 2014.12.11 19:51:00 - [46] - Quote I have 47 strongboxes Not a single key I was getting 10x and 7x drops from salvage FFS, at least gimme one key for every five I get from salvage. Born Deteis Caldari. Rejected by my Kinsman. Found a new family in the Vherokior Tribe. Nobody messes with my family
Everything Dies Santa is coming...FOR BLOOD 1129	Posted - 2014.12.11 20:21:00 - [47] - Quote Crazy idea: What if CCP actually gave you a key for every battle that you are victorious in? Picked up 5 strongboxes as salvage in my second battle today and nothing else. That was actually the first time I've received them as salvage, and picked up another two or three battles afterwards. Still waiting on the first key... Mike Patton is the greatest singer in music. Proof
SPAWN and DIE TERMINAL INCONVENIENCE 21	Posted - 2014.12.11 20:29:00 - [48] - Quote I got a key in salvage! 52 advanced scrambler pistols in the box. That leaves 27 unopened.... Top 16 every time. I'm a natural.
Grease Spillett The Rainbow Effect 597	Posted - 2014.12.11 20:32:00 - [49] - Quote just one in over 100 battles. Next time you see me, bring more friends. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBM5hM5LdDw
Sequal Rise Les Desanusseurs 418	Posted - 2014.12.11 21:07:00 - [50] - Quote I got a 2x keys pack in Ambush today! Opened a strong box and got 4 Luis modified Combat Rifle :D The other one was basic damager crap ^^ That leaves 47 unopened x) Assault, Logi, Scout, Heavy.. What do you need?
KEROSIINI-TERO The Rainbow Effect 1578	Posted - 2014.12.12 00:33:00 - [51] - Quote Got a key today, as salvage. maybe a tenth game or something. People would enjoy Dust a lot more if they accepted the fact that EVERYTHING is subject to change
Kierkegaard Soren THE HANDS OF DEATH RUST415 581	Posted - 2014.12.12 00:42:00 - [52] - Quote Give me boosters and/or SP dumps (as in, you unlock the box and immediately gain 20k sp) and I will consider purchasing AUR or grinding out matches to obtain them. Gear, even the good stuff, is not relevant to me. I build my fits for sustainability. No point in making an uber suit if I can only use when the RNG Gods align correctly for me thrice over. Dedicated Commando. "He who can destroy a thing, controls a thing." -Paul Atreides.
SILENT GIANT FATHERS-AND-SONS 213	Posted - 2014.12.12 00:58:00 - [53] - Quote I just got a key in salvage from a pub match. 10 neo adv gal assault. Cant use. Good thing player trading is on the list.
Raptor Princess ALLOTEC INC 104	Posted - 2014.12.12 01:18:00 - [54] - Quote I've salvaged boxes every other match on average this evening. I just got 13 in a domination. No keys though.
Spaceman-Rob Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 636	Posted - 2014.12.12 01:37:00 - [55] - Quote No keys here either.
JUDASisMYhomeboy xCosmic Voidx Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 186	Posted - 2014.12.12 01:51:00 - [56] - Quote ...at least let us sell them

CCP Rattati C C P C C P Alliance 13407	Posted - 2014.12.12 02:34:00 - [57] - Quote deezy dabest wrote: CRAZY IDEA Im gonna make some wild guesses here. 1. Strongboxes are for selling AUR. (not much guessing on that one) 2. Daily missions are meant to reward people who actually play as oppose to AFK. 3. Daily missions are an excellent way to train new players in the game a little bit. Assuming these are correct guesses on some of the intended goals would it not be better to drop the "random" salvage aspect and either base it on a ratio or participation (matches / wins /kills / warpoints) or just drop it from the idea of salvage completely and improve that system while giving out more keys in missions and maybe even as a daily login bonus. FEEDBACK Aside from the key drops we are discussing here I really enjoy the overall system. Missions give you something to think about in matches aside from the repetitive nature of run, shoot, and hack. They are a nice distraction and I am sure they will help with NPE quite a bit. All these are correct and describe the intent fully. The mainstay was to increase new player retention, and provide goals for intermediate players. Veteran players can acquire rare weapons and gear. We plan to add to this lifetime merits or achievements, hopefully we can implement a lifetime stats with goodies like "heavies killed", vehicles destroyed etc "As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"

Kaze Eyrou Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1106	Posted - 2014.12.12 02:34:00 - [58] - Quote Over the past 3 days of playing for a total of maybe 15 or 20 hours, I have received 1 Key. Out of the 3 days for a chance of 30 missions, I have yet to receive a mission to earn a Key. At this point, I've pretty much given up on receiving anymore Officer loot. CB Vet // Logi Bro // @KazeEyrou CIO ("Proto Forum Warrior") Learning Coalition & RTG
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 3076	Posted - 2014.12.12 02:52:00 - [59] - Quote Joel II X wrote: Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: Nothing for me. Ill update as time goes by. Like if you think CCP should add a large salvage number of keys (5-10) for winning a PC, and/or increase Pub/FW salvage rates. PC? You mean that one game mode only available to around 10% of the playerbase? Yeeeaaahhhh, no. I agree with the pub increase and disagree with the FW salvage, I'll get to why at another time. Possibly during the next title update or whatever they're called. Its available to whoever wants to do it. You just have to seek out the chance to play in one. "Minja" and "Masochist" are synonyms. FA's Shotgunning T-Dome Champ I piss Remote Explosives and shit Shotgun shells.
Aeon Amadi Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 7413	Posted - 2014.12.12 02:53:00 - [60] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: deezy dabest wrote: CRAZY IDEA Im gonna make some wild guesses here. 1. Strongboxes are for selling AUR. (not much guessing on that one) 2. Daily missions are meant to reward people who actually play as oppose to AFK. 3. Daily missions are an excellent way to train new players in the game a little bit. Assuming these are correct guesses on some of the intended goals would it not be better to drop the "random" salvage aspect and either base it on a ratio or participation (matches / wins /kills / warpoints) or just drop it from the idea of salvage completely and improve that system while giving out more keys in missions and maybe even as a daily login bonus. FEEDBACK Aside from the key drops we are discussing here I really enjoy the overall system. Missions give you something to think about in matches aside from the repetitive nature of run, shoot, and hack. They are a nice distraction and I am sure they will help with NPE quite a bit. All these are correct and describe the intent fully. The mainstay was to increase new player retention, and provide goals for intermediate players. Veteran players can acquire rare weapons and gear. We plan to add to this lifetime merits or achievements, hopefully we can implement a lifetime stats with goodies like "heavies killed", vehicles destroyed etc I dunno about Veteran players acquiring rare weapons and gear. Most of the stuff is just Aurum trash that I wind up selling to the Market Agent because it's just too much of a pain in the butt to restock in the heat of the battle. Keys get kind of expensive when compared with just how many salvage boxes we get and the chances of getting Officer stuff just isn't worth the gamble. My suggestions: - Switch out the aurum stuff for ISK variants - Reduce frequency of salvage boxes - Alternatively, reduce price of keys Sorry, but I think this is mostly another feature that appeals to players with lots of liquid finances to throw around. For the rest of the community, it's just more asset bloat that will continue to pile up until changes are made. Long-Term Roadmap More Hard Questions

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