10k EHP HAV's can't even survive a militia LAV + 120k sp into remotes.

I haven't had time to read all the threads about vehicles or the (metric ****tons of information & opinions presented) but I do have some thoughts overall on vehicles.

LAV's -> These are used far more often than not as taxi's to get from point a to point b. I'd really like to see them used more in an infantry support role, with 'standard' or 'attack' variant LAV's being the type of thing that if someone gets on its turret will *shred* any opposing infantry. The Logi LAV I'd like to see have a wide-area triage nanohive type effect (that's limited in duration) or it can focus the nanite stream to repair armor / shields (depending on vehicle type), this allows it to be played in a much bigger 'support' role, either aiding mass infantry pushes or being able to support other vehicles - it should forgo a turret in order to gain these repair functions.

HAV's -> With LAV's being redesigned to terrorize infantry, a HAV should be the thing that terrorizes LAV's (though a HAV with small turrets on it should certainly be quite scary to infantry as well), I don't have any real proposed changes here.

Marauders -> There's been a lot of proposed bonuses tossed around, but I think a simple bonus of 2% increased resistance value to shield/armor hardeners would be a great place to start. It doesn't really mess around with window of opportunity time, it just makes it so that when you activate your hardeners your 'finest moment' is even more gloriously resistant. I'm really worried about having 15% less speed on them, because I know from experience that when playing older builds it was entirely possible to just get chased around the map by AV teams in LAV's, I would opt for significantly reduced RANGE on marauders (-15% to turret ranges) and maybe slower acceleration, but overall the same top speed, In exchange for the slower acceleration they should have much more torque and ability to turn (so -10% acceleration +10% torque).

I haven't had time to read all the threads about vehicles or the (metric ****tons of information & opinions presented) but I do have some thoughts overall on vehicles.

LAV's -> These are used far more often than not as taxi's to get from point a to point b. I'd really like to see them used more in an infantry support role, with 'standard' or 'attack' variant LAV's being the type of thing that if someone gets on its turret will *shred* any opposing infantry. The Logi LAV I'd like to see have a wide-area triage nanohive type effect (that's limited in duration) or it can focus the nanite stream to repair armor / shields (depending on vehicle type), this allows it to be played in a much bigger 'support' role, either aiding mass infantry pushes or being able to support other vehicles - it should forgo a turret in order to gain these repair functions.

HAV's -> With LAV's being redesigned to terrorize infantry, a HAV should be the thing that terrorizes LAV's (though a HAV with small turrets on it should certainly be quite scary to infantry as well), I don't have any real proposed changes here.

Marauders -> There's been a lot of proposed bonuses tossed around, but I think a simple bonus of 2% increased resistance value to shield/armor hardeners would be a great place to start. It doesn't really mess around with window of opportunity time, it just makes it so that when you activate your hardeners your 'finest moment' is even more gloriously resistant. I'm really worried about having 15% less speed on them, because I know from experience that when playing older builds it was entirely possible to just get chased around the map by AV teams in LAV's, I would opt for significantly reduced RANGE on marauders (-15% to turret ranges) and maybe slower acceleration, but overall the same top speed, In exchange for the slower acceleration they should have much more torque and ability to turn (so -10% acceleration +10% torque).

I haven't had time to read all the threads about vehicles or the (metric ****tons of information & opinions presented) but I do have some thoughts overall on vehicles.

LAV's -> These are used far more often than not as taxi's to get from point a to point b. I'd really like to see them used more in an infantry support role, with 'standard' or 'attack' variant LAV's being the type of thing that if someone gets on its turret will *shred* any opposing infantry. The Logi LAV I'd like to see have a wide-area triage nanohive type effect (that's limited in duration) or it can focus the nanite stream to repair armor / shields (depending on vehicle type), this allows it to be played in a much bigger 'support' role, either aiding mass infantry pushes or being able to support other vehicles - it should forgo a turret in order to gain these repair functions.

HAV's -> With LAV's being redesigned to terrorize infantry, a HAV should be the thing that terrorizes LAV's (though a HAV with small turrets on it should certainly be quite scary to infantry as well), I don't have any real proposed changes here.

Marauders -> There's been a lot of proposed bonuses tossed around, but I think a simple bonus of 2% increased resistance value to shield/armor hardeners would be a great place to start. It doesn't really mess around with window of opportunity time, it just makes it so that when you activate your hardeners your 'finest moment' is even more gloriously resistant. I'm really worried about having 15% less speed on them, because I know from experience that when playing older builds it was entirely possible to just get chased around the map by AV teams in LAV's, I would opt for significantly reduced RANGE on marauders (-15% to turret ranges) and maybe slower acceleration, but overall the same top speed, In exchange for the slower acceleration they should have much more torque and ability to turn (so -10% acceleration +10% torque).

That's and entirely different issue and yes they can.

5 Boundless RE deal 10554 Explosive damage. Considering a Hardened Gunnlogi negates 40% of the damage and resists naturally 20% it could theoretically survive assuming that the LAV impact and explosive damage does not deplete too much shielding.

That's and entirely different issue and yes they can.

5 Boundless RE deal 10554 Explosive damage. Considering a Hardened Gunnlogi negates 40% of the damage and resists naturally 20% it could theoretically survive assuming that the LAV impact and explosive damage does not deplete too much shielding.

People put on more than 5 remotes.

Isn't that kinda what the Militia HAVs do already though? Where should STD tanks fit in?

surya stats

1600 shield
4800 armour

685 cpu
2850 pwr grid.

3 highs
4 lows
lrg turret slot
2 smll turret slots

10% slower than madrugar
5% more torque than madrugar (increased acceleration and climbing power to compensate for reduced speed but still being slower overall compared to maddy.)

skill bonus: 3% bonus to armour hardner effectiveness and cooldown rate per level. 2% bonus to armour repair effectiveness per level

sagaris stats.

3450 shield
1650 armour

850 cpu
2450 pwr grid

4highs
3lows
lrge turret slot
2 smll turret slots

5% slower than gunnlogi (this thing is horribly slow)
5% more torque (gunnlogis cant climb hills)
3% reduced turning rate (blaster prof 5 on a gunnlogi while turning the chassis is ridiculos)

skill bonus: 3% increased shield hardner effectiveness and cooldown rate. 2% bonus to shield booster effectiveness and cooldown rate per level. (even with max skills. basic shield booster cools down at the same rate as a complex shield hardner)

market price 250 to 300k (preferably option 2 to prevent spam)

other tank stats should be kept the same as base hulls as to reduce the gap between hulls strengths and effectiveness so that STD tanks are capable of fighting against these armoured and shielded beasts.