I'd have to actually agree with Tesfa on this one Sclomp Snipers were a problem before this rediculousness you call a buff/fix now it's even more outrageous maybe due to the map layout or just plain laziness from mercs but I still see plenty of redline snipers still.. Especially in the video above.. If this guy is complaining that CSR isn't viable change your playstyle until they fix it. What is this COD style you talk of.. Hh is it the sniping of today where you don't need to spec into SR much or at all and pretty much kill anything with a HS?

I get what Sym is talking about but there does need to be a middle ground as CSR is the one of the strongest SR in-game but this community is getting worse by the day.. I used to be a dedicated sniper and I know the SR was broken before and after buff..

As Joel said a few meters could be added as well as the HS multiplier can be tiered but right now also dmg mods might also be a problem still but that's a whole other story.

And even then I've sniped a bit lately before I specced out of snipers but for me to be forced to get a HS or die isn't my cup of tea I want to have old school sniper battles but not this "let's see who can get HS first"

Like I told you and many others even though my rage and hatred for snipers(or any weapon for that matter) one have to be versatile keep on the move or change to a different variant of weapon if need be.

Charge Rifle gets 4 round mag, usual sound when charging, but has a double beep when fully charged then silence, fed up of it beeping in my ear as im trying to focus needs 5 but sound is annoying yes

Let's say you get a single attribute change. What is it?

As someone with pro 5 in snipers I say no.. It's fine where it's at, want to increase the range? Make it so snipers can't shoot from inside their redline. You can still sit in your redline and see the objective in nearly all the Dom maps.

I have pro 5 in a bunch of things I'm not qualified to comment on.

Are you kidding me?

It stands to reason I might be better at sniping than you are at everything else combined in Dust 514.
(considering I've been around forever and have no idea what guns you use, let alone who you are in Dust 514)

I'm not saying that though, not yet at least.

If I'm just "good" with a sniper rifle, I would someday like to be introduced to some of the better snipers in Dust 514. Maybe if I work hard enough at my craft I could even become a dedicated sniper and offer valuable / insightful opinions on the nuances of sniping to others.

The way you said it came off bad then.
All I'm saying is the redline needs fixed before increasing the range, I personally don't think you need more than 3 bullets a clip but I always reload after 1 shot anyways.

Neckbearding a weapon 24/7 does not make anyone more qualified to talk about an issue than anyone else.

Dedicated snipers are not the only people who get to voice their opinions because here are two sides to an engagement. Because of this, the player getting shot also gets a say.

All i'm concerned about is CCP reverting sniper range to what is was before. 350 meters is more than enough to outrange everyone and still find good vantage points and lines of sight. With this range, the sniper would be vulnerable to flankers (so carry a good backup).

600 meter snipers was an issue that I do not want to see return.

Someone working for CCP has a prefered range of engagement hard on. That's the primary reasoning.

Primary reason was called Counter Play.

Funny how counterplay seems more limited than ever.

How?

It's now harder to (counter-)snipe redliners and rooftop campers.

Counter sniping anybody has been easier than it has ever been. You just have to move within range, which isn't difficult at all.

If for some reason you cannot get within range, then redliners and roofers wouldn't be a threat to you anyway. (But I don't see how anybody could fail to get within range)

Counter sniping anybody has been easier than it has ever been. You just have to move within range, which isn't difficult at all.

If for some reason you cannot get within range, then redliners and roofers wouldn't be a threat to you anyway. (But I don't see how anybody could fail to get within range)

i've got one thing although it encompasses several things therein.

Make the sniper rifle actually skill based.

Make the rifle dependent on a light suit variant and the sniper skills to be effective. Make it useless without the skills and weaker without the suit. Take away the mil sniper rifle's inherent ability. Without skills make the scope distance reduced to 100m, RoF reduced and sway increased.

Because if you are within range of the redline sniper, then you yourself are nearly by their redline yourself in the thick of it fighting against not only the sniper you're trying to kill, but the general infantry on the field as well, things like shotgun scouts and heavies that even in a commando you really have zero defense against.

It's like being AV where you don't receive wp for damage dealt, and you need to be a stationary target to use your weapon. It's not a fun, nor rewarding role to play.