People ability to constantly keep twitching back and forth making long range, high damage precision weaponry functionally useless.

I don't have huge issues with having to lead targets in other games, but in dust people can just keep sliding around non-stop.

My thoughts on snipers

Ppl are too twitchy to hit

Charge rifle constant beeping actually puts me off using it

Ranges seem ok

I has max Calmando, I put a thales on it, kill one guy, 15 secs later im dead as he respawns in his redline and one headshot with std rifle on a sentinelso true

Just doesn't seem right...put me off sniping with max Calmando
Now I just use a C-1 with my Covenant BPO


A suggestion, nerf headshot multiplyer, raise base dmg
Scale dmg/headshot bonus appropriately accross tiers


This would be to affect that if ppl are too twitchy, body shots are still viable
One headshot takedowns are restricted to high tier skilled snipers I liked headshots before the changes to sniping, just change it from 190% to like 220% at most since we received a base damage increase already

Charge Rifle gets 4 round mag, usual sound when charging, but has a double beep when fully charged then silence, fed up of it beeping in my ear as im trying to focus needs 5 but sound is annoying yes

Tac rifle is perfect GG yeah it's pretty good still niche but more doors have opened for it

Scope types are good, if you can do it, variable zoom on charge and std variants one can dream

Much respect to you Symbs for keeping the issues about the Charged SR alive. It's not in a good state and it's my hope that it gets another pass in the future, sooner than later. If I were to change anything, in order of priority, I'd revert the clip size back to 5. Even with a nano hive, you go through ammo pretty quick since the change to 3/18, but the more pressing issue about having 3 shots in the Charge per clip is having to reload. That doesn't fly with this gun and heavily tanked mobile targets. The second thing would be range. I'm sure 600m wouldn't satisfy all these Rifle514 players, so something around 400m+ would be the way to go. It's really limited in what it can cover at 350m for a prototype weapon. In regards to tiering, yes headshot multipliers should be tiered based on SR tier. It just makes sense to make it more rewarding to use a higher tier SR, yet at the same time it's more costly should you get sniped. Also, I'm convinced IWS doesn't snipe enough to know what he's talking about based on the stats you looked up previously lol. I would be at 40K+ snipes had I not stopped playing this game over half a year ago. From one of Uprising's top snipers to another, o7 Symbs. Someday we might be bothered to log back in. I don't imagine anything Legion-related will be ready to be discussed till next Fall (if it's even green lit), but that's where my hope lies for this game.

Look at these useless sniper users...I would be ashamed myself by revealing that I use sniper...

While redline aside, it seems that your a one playstyle sniper user (take that lightly as your may just be another tear farm) that just so happens to follow the flock of that style (COD) and see everything else as red?

What about the MAG sniper that was patient and actually waits for important times to shoot or exact points or areas you want to deny the enemy even walking through?

The game name leaves my head but it was a PS2 game where the sniper class was that literal GLASS CANNON that you shoot you kill but had horrible defense, armor, or vision but in exchange had better "ears", radar, or trap capabilities? THIS was all in one game I swear but forgot the name.

I hope you're one of those meat shields running on the ground that gets shot and says "That damn sniper!" while he laughs at your corpse and shoots twice more for the blatant ignorance of other playstyles than yours.

You can't do this now, not even close.

It's too bad they didn't let people keep pre-nerf variants.

Anyway, you need at least 5 bullets in a clip to make the gun viable.

Switching between multiple targets, you simply will never have enough bullets to multi-task your damage.

I would take the time to reload when there were only 3 bullets in the clip before. Now it starts with that many in the clip. Awful.

And there it is.

"A good player knows they never have to stand still" - who's been saying that for years now? oh wait that's right.. me

This is exactly why clip size 3 is useless. The second you hit someone, because you missed their head or they see the bullet trail, they're flipping around like a fish out of water, good luck with follow up shots. And if your target has their back turned to you especially on heavies they have neck fat scaling up to the middle of their skull protecting against headshots.

Let's say you get a single attribute change. What is it?

Triple tactical head shot killed most of the heavy snipers in previous builds.

-followed by getting a heavy sniper into armor, with no armor repair left them as an easy target.
-heavy suits offer a bigger hitbox (easier to spot + easier to scan + easier to hit + slow movement)

The tactical was the "head shot counter sniping rifle" You knew when someone was using the Tactical, they had it out for snipers.

Now with 6 bullets in the magazine, you can stick it to any sniper within 350m with them having no chance of survival.

Heavy red line snipers weren't immune to death. They were just immune to bad counter sniping.

You can't do this now, not even close.

It's too bad they didn't let people keep pre-nerf variants.

Anyway, you need at least 5 bullets in a clip to make the gun viable.

Switching between multiple targets, you simply will never have enough bullets to multi-task your damage.

I would take the time to reload when there were only 3 bullets in the clip before. Now it starts with that many in the clip. Awful.

They did change how the rifle works, but I wouldn't call it an overall nerf. they reduced range and clip size, but also increased zoom and dmg...... In all honesty the charge feels more in line with the other rifles, the only change I would make would be to increase the range which in all fairness need to be the highest and at least 500m

the charge simply should not have 5 rounds in the clip it gives it too much dmg per clip compared to the other rifles and while it was not OP it was way better than the other sniper options

Triple tactical head shot killed most of the heavy snipers in previous builds.

-followed by getting a heavy sniper into armor, with no armor repair left them as an easy target.
-heavy suits offer a bigger hitbox (easier to spot + easier to scan + easier to hit + slow movement)

The tactical was the "head shot counter sniping rifle" You knew when someone was using the Tactical, they had it out for snipers.

Now with 6 bullets in the magazine, you can stick it to any sniper within 350m with them having no chance of survival.

Heavy red line snipers weren't immune to death. They were just immune to bad counter sniping.

anyone with a pulse would move after the 2nd shot, while the tactical was the most effective at counter sniping it was still lacking

lol ... a scrub sobbing because camping from the MCC will not be posible again...

The best monday morning ever ! :D

Still.. red line heavy snipers were annoying at best..

Not very effective in general..

If they presented a problem, I would often move out of their line of sight to a different sniping platform and simply ignore them.

14/16 headshots resulted in a kill from my video (see original post, or top of page 3)

The tradeoff for 2 bullets and 200m range isn't worth the 2 extra kills you might get in an extraordinary match.

I was hoping you might see that.

Heavy suits were not for good snipers in general.. It wasn't a serious problem, just annoying. They didn't even have nano hives.

Many of the best snipers were using Minmitar Assault / Caldari Logi for sniping

Damage Mods / Equipment / Compact Nanohives / Innate Armor Regen / Expanded High Slot Loadouts



The go to suit before wasn't the heavy suit. In reality it was the Frontline - Sniper. That was the most common sniper suit.

Yeah most common, not the best fit.

As for this heavy with a Thale's comment. Keeping in mind it's officer gear it should out peform the other sniper rifles. Allowing the user to be more troublesome. If a tactical sniper rifle wasn't the best counter-sniping solution. Pulling out your own Thale's certainly was.

I think the consensus was the standard sniper rifle was the best now..

1200 dmg on a headshot.. and enough bullets in a clip to spam fire hoping for one.. and if your inteded target doesn't die from a headshot you can easily kill them with a zero delay follow up body shot..