Yes, and as I said, you DON'T need a logi suit to place uplinks in low risk spots. A Assault does just fine. It has equip.

If you're arguing against bandwidth with that point, you're missing the point of other suits having equip as well.

Solo Players running assaults or scouts can effectively drop links in safe places. That is true. Bandwidth will not change that. You have no real point in bringing this up, considering the other options available for link dropping while retaining slaying efficiency.

I, for one, welcome these changes as it doesn't affect me in any negative way.

In fact, I think it was a long-awaited change.

Now that we have established this idea, let's append the fact that teams often need more than 1 or 2 uplinks at a time. Often there are between 5 to 7 essential strategic locations on a map that will really give the team a doorway into the most tactical positions, allowing them to easily forge their way to victory.

From a standpoint of efficiency, it is best if one person can call a dropship and supply the team with those 5 - 7 uplinks in low-risk, highly-effective locations, as opposed to 3 or 4 people calling in dropships and trying to coordinate uplink deployment so that the map is covered evenly.

Post BW, if a single merc deploys 5-7 uplinks, then in order for the uplinks to remain active, the bandwidth of his/her dropsuit must support the amount of deployed equipment, forcing the merc to remain in a logi suit for as long as he/she deems it necessary to provide team support in the form of uplinks. This renders the merc relatively ineffective for that period, now unable to deploy new equipment at the cost of losing uplinks and now forced to fit logi dropsuits for other purposes to prevent losing uplinks when changing battlefield functions. Whereas pre bandwidth, he/she could have continued contributing to the team more effectively in various classes of dropsuits.

We're going to have less uplink deployment in safe, durable areas due to disappearing uplinks when logis swap out to perform other functions, or due to demoralization and people giving up on deploying uplinks, or due to more foot soldiers carrying 1 uplink and deploying it in a hazardous zone where it could easily be camped or REd.

We're going to have more uplink destruction due to new OBs.

It's going to become REDLINE MADNESS. Less uplinks + more uplink destruction.

I predict that any slightly asymetrically matched games will end in redlining the losing team, resulting in even more redlining than we already experience today.

And that will hopefully encourage people to go around, drop the links where they need to, and contribute to the team as a whole.

If The Pitcher could cover all the bases, then why do we need the team?

So my post BW options after I deploy uplinks become:

1. Build a slayer logi without deployable equipment.
2. Build a repper logi without deployable equipment.
3. Build a point defense logi without deployable equipment.
4. Build a suppression logi without deployable equipment.
5. Build a hacker logi without deployable equipment.
6. Build a close range assault logi without deployable equipment.
7. Build a mid range assault logi without deployable equipment.
8. Build a long range assault logi without deployable equipment.
9. Build an AV logi without deployable equipment.
10. etc. logi without deployable equipment.

This could be the same solution for deploying a proxy minefield as well.

What BW just did was limit which dropsuit I have to wear in order to play the game.

What BW just did was stop me from both effectively deploying a proxy minefield and effectively deploying uplinks and effectively deploying REs and effectively deploying hives simultaneously. I know how to do those things to effectively support the team and not spam. Why shouldn't I be able to drop multiple pieces of responsibly-placed equipment and then carry on in other roles and other dropsuits?

Well,... not exactly.

What I think is that the word "EFFECTIVELY" when it comes to deploying equipment, is tiffany-twisted difference in each player's overconfident mind.

MANY of us think we have been "effectively" deploying and "effectively" helping players... I'm expecting that the Bandwith constraint will force all equipment carriers to either improve and sharpen their idea of effective deployment was, OR retire from equipment deployment and let some better carriers handle that job.

...Yep, sounds like an insult... but it's just logic that is cold sometimes.

i have been killed far more times jumping off buildings with zero situation awareness of what's waiting below than i ever have spawning in on a ground uplink.

there is a huge difference between safe/secure uplinks and efficient uplinks. some of your uplinks might get the odd players safely into the game but its my uplinks that get them into the fight. my uplinks are constantly burning out. to me thats efficiency not placing them somewhere they are not needed much at all

If you want to prevent zero situational awareneess, look around and down before you jump, my fellow merc. Intentionally face in the direction that makes the most sense when you land. This is far better than ground-spawn on top of a hostile RE.




I don't want to place uplinks where they are not needed. What would be the point of that?

I'm glad that your ground-deployed uplinks help soldiers get into the fight, bro. That's important. But I also hope that somebody is protecting them, so they don't get camped/REd and destroyed by hostiles.

please stop repeating this nonsense about how uplinks are always camped, its a rare occasion if that. it is of minor consequence. every one of your arguments is a repeat of this argument which rarely affects anyone. besides even if it where true the new uplinks after the patch will scan out enemy campers so this whole argument is BS. it is going to be even less likely for players to camp equipment.

Imo it would be better when switching suits to have only the equipment that doesn't fall in with that suits BW be destroyed, not a complete wipe of equipment
(Unless I'm not understanding BW correctly)

If The Pitcher could cover all the bases, then why do we need the team?

Damn man, its disheartening to read how short sighted this community still is when it comes to many issues that are not really complex, but takes more than a simple "oh you just mad because you want to spam and be dedicated to a role" reply.

I keep checking back on these forums hoping to see a turn around. I'm afraid to step my foot into the **** pool. Is Dust even Dust anymore?

"why all the upset about bandwidth"

Because, generally speaking, people don't like change.

It is really just that simple, IMO.

Changing things for the worse in guise of a "Fix" is the problem.

Same as vehicle locking.

Same as matchmaking.

Same as needles just last patch. and many other examples.

This is a change that will impact daily DUST negatively. In Order to get CCP off easily from fixing a broken game mechanic that has been in practice since Closed Beta.

This is not a fix... It's a giant nerf band aid, With it applied the big problem of CCP having a game in which it's core game mechanics run like sh!t, WILL NOT BE FIXED. Entire contributing gameplay styles will be eliminated and made null in void And The actual problem (Game performance) Will not.

The Game will still run like Sh!t.

And Everyday DUST gameplay will suffer.

for the sake of an easy fix for CCP and their own game play performance issues they created themselves..