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manboar thunder fist
Dead Man's Game
RUST415
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Posted - 2014.12.06 10:55:00 -
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when are we getting the basic Python blueprints then?
Only seems fair
"If there is a strafe nerf in this game, remove hit detection"- manboar 2014
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VikingKong iBUN
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
275
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Posted - 2014.12.06 13:00:00 -
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If you're talking about the APEX suit, it doesn't have a swarm launcher.
And a militia bpo commando with militia swarms sounds terrible, would just create more militia victims running around for people in half-decent suits to slaughter.
Yes, dropships suck because AV is too strong and they cost too much ISK - but come on now, don't be silly.
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
5670
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Posted - 2014.12.06 14:18:00 -
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AV isn't too strong right now.
You're all talking about ONE AV weapon so quit being coy and come out and say you think swarms are OP.
EVE Online is what you get when engineers attempt to create "fun" without consulting someone who comprehends the word.
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manboar thunder fist
Dead Man's Game
RUST415
283
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Posted - 2014.12.06 19:50:00 -
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Lol I have a level 4 forge and it takes out all vehicles in a clip
Very up
"If there is a strafe nerf in this game, remove hit detection"- manboar 2014
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manboar thunder fist
Dead Man's Game
RUST415
283
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Posted - 2014.12.06 19:51:00 -
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And I think you'll find when people have vehicles to kill they will spam av with a vengeance
Even a basic swarm has enough dps to keep a python away
"If there is a strafe nerf in this game, remove hit detection"- manboar 2014
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
5673
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Posted - 2014.12.06 20:17:00 -
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manboar thunder fist wrote:Lol I have a level 4 forge and it takes out all vehicles in a clip
Very up
Learn to read.
Did I say UP?
I said it wasn't "too strong"
And you haven't yet encountered the gunnlogis from hell. they take six shots from an IAFG minimum if you cannot shenanigan your way into the weakspot.
Those are hilariously fun to fight.
I also don't use swarms.
So I don't give a rat's ass about them except to idly blap their users on the other team.
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A Sassy BlackWoman
Forty-Nine Fedayeen
Minmatar Republic
22
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Posted - 2014.12.06 21:12:00 -
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manboar thunder fist wrote:And I think you'll find when people have vehicles to kill they will spam av with a vengeance
Even a basic swarm has enough dps to keep a python away
If there be a basic Swarmer playin' a game of keep away wit' cha honey child, I suggest you consider that area hot and best be on yo way! |
ImIvan
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Posted - 2014.12.07 02:01:00 -
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manboar thunder fist wrote:And I think you'll find when people have vehicles to kill they will spam av with a vengeance
Even a basic swarm has enough dps to keep a python away
1. Put a shield extender on your python.
2. Put a shield hardener on your python.
3. When you hear swarms, turn on the hardener and take out the swarmer with ease.
Works with forge guns too!
Why must you use prototypes?
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Jack 3enimble
Titans of Phoenix
523
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Posted - 2014.12.07 04:13:00 -
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manboar thunder fist wrote:And I think you'll find when people have vehicles to kill they will spam av with a vengeance
Even a basic swarm has enough dps to keep a python away
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Kallas Hallytyr
Skullbreakers
1067
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Posted - 2014.12.07 07:05:00 -
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ImIvan wrote:manboar thunder fist wrote:And I think you'll find when people have vehicles to kill they will spam av with a vengeance
Even a basic swarm has enough dps to keep a python away 1. Put a shield extender on your python. 2. Put a shield hardener on your python. 3. When you hear swarms, turn on the hardener and take out the swarmer with ease. Works with forge guns too!
Lol, do you even fly bro?
Shooting back when under fire is not even vaguely as easy as you make out.
Alt of Halla Murr. Sentinel.
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manboar thunder fist
Dead Man's Game
RUST415
286
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Posted - 2014.12.07 11:13:00 -
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Jack 3enimble wrote:manboar thunder fist wrote:And I think you'll find when people have vehicles to kill they will spam av with a vengeance
Even a basic swarm has enough dps to keep a python away Clown
judgmental egotistic clownfish
"If there is a strafe nerf in this game, remove hit detection"- manboar 2014
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manboar thunder fist
Dead Man's Game
RUST415
286
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Posted - 2014.12.07 11:15:00 -
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ImIvan wrote:manboar thunder fist wrote:And I think you'll find when people have vehicles to kill they will spam av with a vengeance
Even a basic swarm has enough dps to keep a python away 1. Put a shield extender on your python. 2. Put a shield hardener on your python. 3. When you hear swarms, turn on the hardener and take out the swarmer with ease. Works with forge guns too!
I fly in pc.... it's not as easy as you think
fighting against full proto minmandos and forge guns that can down the best fits in 3 shots.
everyone is positioned in a way to provide cover from aerial fire, whether it is a narrow ring, a null cannon or building obstacles.
Rendering is still an issue, with forge guns and swarms firing the 1st shot while not rendering in.
So....
before you go ahead and make an ignorant post mentioning stuff that people before you have done hundreds of times, think to yourself, am i being useful? am i contributing? or am i stupid useless captain obvious
"If there is a strafe nerf in this game, remove hit detection"- manboar 2014
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THUNDERGROOVE
Fatal Absolution
1220
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Posted - 2014.12.07 14:31:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:AV isn't too strong right now.
You're all talking about ONE AV weapon so quit being coy and come out and say you think swarms are OP.
I mean it does only take 2 volleys of Minmatar Commando swarms to down a complex 60 plated Incubus.
It's hardly even ISK intensive considering you don't actually need to run the prototype swarms on a prototype suit. The suit never should have gotten a bonus to swarm damage.
More like Titans of Penis amirite?
Come play a better game.
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
5681
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Posted - 2014.12.07 16:21:00 -
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THUNDERGROOVE wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:AV isn't too strong right now.
You're all talking about ONE AV weapon so quit being coy and come out and say you think swarms are OP. I mean it does only take 2 volleys of Minmatar Commando swarms to down a complex 60 plated Incubus. It's hardly even ISK intensive considering you don't actually need to run the prototype swarms on a prototype suit. The suit never should have gotten a bonus to swarm damage.
you get the same effect from a proto gallente assault. the max minmando nets about +40 actual damage. TTK is identical.
It's amazing how people think commandos have any significant advantages over assaults.
EVE Online is what you get when engineers attempt to create "fun" without consulting someone who comprehends the word.
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Crimson ShieId
Sinq Laison Gendarmes
Gallente Federation
1559
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Posted - 2014.12.07 18:41:00 -
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So... because a BPO exists for a few AV weapons that would usually only cost less than 2000 Isk or so and does **** for damage, you want a BPO of something that usually costs 200K Isk and can actually offer a good amount of harassment if the pilot is good? Am I reading this right?
30K or less dropships and tanks... and I thought militia tank spam was bad in 1.7...
I want to punch.
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Joel II X
Bacon with a bottle of Quafe
4944
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Posted - 2014.12.07 18:52:00 -
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MLT Forge Gun BPO
MLT Swarm Launcher BPO
'Dren' Swarm Launcher
MLT AV Grenade BPO
MLT Plasma Cannon BPO
Those are the only blueprints that I know of, and they're not that potent. |
Bahirae Serugiusu
Vendetta Reactionary Force
331
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Posted - 2014.12.07 20:40:00 -
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manboar thunder fist wrote:And I think you'll find when people have vehicles to kill they will spam av with a vengeance
Even a basic swarm has enough dps to keep a python away
Swarms should deter ADS. Forge Guns should tell pilots to gtfo or they will die.
The State will always survive.
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
15557
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Posted - 2014.12.07 20:53:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:AV isn't too strong right now.
You're all talking about ONE AV weapon so quit being coy and come out and say you think swarms are OP.
Well that's subjective. If players are having trouble with Armour HAV then they are bad AVers....... Shields on the other hand....yeah they're a bit out of control.
*"He spoke, and we made it so all worlds were one, all peoples were one, all faiths, creeds, and nationalities were one.
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
15557
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Posted - 2014.12.07 20:54:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:THUNDERGROOVE wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:AV isn't too strong right now.
You're all talking about ONE AV weapon so quit being coy and come out and say you think swarms are OP. I mean it does only take 2 volleys of Minmatar Commando swarms to down a complex 60 plated Incubus. It's hardly even ISK intensive considering you don't actually need to run the prototype swarms on a prototype suit. The suit never should have gotten a bonus to swarm damage. you get the same effect from a proto gallente assault. the max minmando nets about +40 actual damage. TTK is identical. It's amazing how people think commandos have any significant advantages over assaults.
It does however add up when you add in proficiency, damage modules, and other exterior benefits.
The 10% + 15% + 7 (or 12ish)% really adds up.
*"He spoke, and we made it so all worlds were one, all peoples were one, all faiths, creeds, and nationalities were one.
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Racro 01 Arifistan
501st Knights of Leanbox
464
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Posted - 2014.12.08 03:38:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:AV isn't too strong right now.
You're all talking about ONE AV weapon so quit being coy and come out and say you think swarms are OP.
if av was under powered.
madruagr with ion cannon rolls up next to me in my gall assault suit with wykomi swarm/lai dai pcked nades sitting on 2 k-2 hives.
let off 2 swarm volleys follow up with nade spam......*boom* maddy destruction......blasters really need to be more threating at point blank range. thank you community for nerfing blaster tanks into harmless beast's that av can mill for points and kills without being TOO much of cannon fodder for the shortest rnages tank tank that in theory would be ripping you to shreds with plasma.
Elite Gallenten Soldier
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
5683
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Posted - 2014.12.08 09:01:00 -
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Racro 01 Arifistan wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:AV isn't too strong right now.
You're all talking about ONE AV weapon so quit being coy and come out and say you think swarms are OP. if av was under powered. madruagr with ion cannon rolls up next to me in my gall assault suit with wykomi swarm/lai dai pcked nades sitting on 2 k-2 hives. let off 2 swarm volleys follow up with nade spam......*boom* maddy destruction......blasters really need to be more threating at point blank range. thank you community for nerfing blaster tanks into harmless beast's that av can mill for points and kills without being TOO much of cannon fodder for the shortest rnages tank tank that in theory would be ripping you to shreds with plasma.
Did I ever claim underpowered?
Sating "AV is not too strong" is a far cry from "AV is UP."
I am crazy, not stupid.
Reading comprehension. Get some.
EVE Online is what you get when engineers attempt to create "fun" without consulting someone who comprehends the word.
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
5683
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Posted - 2014.12.08 09:04:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:THUNDERGROOVE wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:AV isn't too strong right now.
You're all talking about ONE AV weapon so quit being coy and come out and say you think swarms are OP. I mean it does only take 2 volleys of Minmatar Commando swarms to down a complex 60 plated Incubus. It's hardly even ISK intensive considering you don't actually need to run the prototype swarms on a prototype suit. The suit never should have gotten a bonus to swarm damage. you get the same effect from a proto gallente assault. the max minmando nets about +40 actual damage. TTK is identical. It's amazing how people think commandos have any significant advantages over assaults. It does however add up when you add in proficiency, damage modules, and other exterior benefits. The 10% + 15% + 7 (or 12ish)% really adds up.
It would if bonuses were addative, not multiplicative.
When all is said and done the only damage changer betewwn a galassault ans minmando is you trade a single damage mod for +10% to damage.
The actual number difference is trivial and does not alter TTK.
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Thaddeus Reynolds
Facepunch Security
109
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Posted - 2014.12.08 09:31:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:True Adamance wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:THUNDERGROOVE wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:AV isn't too strong right now.
You're all talking about ONE AV weapon so quit being coy and come out and say you think swarms are OP. I mean it does only take 2 volleys of Minmatar Commando swarms to down a complex 60 plated Incubus. It's hardly even ISK intensive considering you don't actually need to run the prototype swarms on a prototype suit. The suit never should have gotten a bonus to swarm damage. you get the same effect from a proto gallente assault. the max minmando nets about +40 actual damage. TTK is identical. It's amazing how people think commandos have any significant advantages over assaults. It does however add up when you add in proficiency, damage modules, and other exterior benefits. The 10% + 15% + 7 (or 12ish)% really adds up. It would if bonuses were addative, not multiplicative. When all is said and done the only damage changer betewwn a galassault ans minmando is you trade a single damage mod for +10% to damage. The actual number difference is trivial and does not alter TTK.
I disagree on an extra 160 ish (assuming all missiles hit) damage being trivial, even against something vehicle scale, that's almost the difference between the proto-railgun and advanced railgun, and can alter TTK (albeit very slightly)
Edit: do skill bonuses dust side stack on a per level basis? like is a 1.02x1.02x1.02x1.02x1.02 or is it just 1.10?
Khanid Logi and Tanker, sometimes AV Heavy or Sniper.
I believe all these roles are support for front line soldiers.
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Draden Brohiem
D3ATH CARD
RUST415
14
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Posted - 2014.12.08 09:54:00 -
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Nowadays when I tank it's basically a bunch of hiding, taking out turrets, the occasional tank battle (that usually ends when one sides AV shows up), and redline retreats from swarms. Once the enemy team reach your home point it all swarms from there. The entire team will go AV to kill one tank. I guess we have 1.7, and the douchebag tankers that ran madrugers with ion cannons in ambush for months to thank for that?! If any new players are out there thinking about tanking don't!! |
Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
5683
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Posted - 2014.12.08 10:59:00 -
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You get the total of the skill bonus so 1.1.
And 160 damage isn't enough to change the number of shots to kill except in edge cases.
I tested this with a damage modded IAFG.
I was able to squeeze out about another 150 damage/shot.
Made no difference in any case except for tanked LAVs.
EVE Online is what you get when engineers attempt to create "fun" without consulting someone who comprehends the word.
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
5683
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Posted - 2014.12.08 11:07:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:AV isn't too strong right now.
You're all talking about ONE AV weapon so quit being coy and come out and say you think swarms are OP. Well that's subjective. If players are having trouble with Armour HAV then they are bad AVers....... Shields on the other hand....yeah they're a bit out of control.
We need shield busting weapons that suck vs. Armor.
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Thaddeus Reynolds
Facepunch Security
112
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Posted - 2014.12.08 15:01:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:True Adamance wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:AV isn't too strong right now.
You're all talking about ONE AV weapon so quit being coy and come out and say you think swarms are OP. Well that's subjective. If players are having trouble with Armour HAV then they are bad AVers....... Shields on the other hand....yeah they're a bit out of control. We need shield busting weapons that suck vs. Armor.
Something like a...Laser? (Or mjolnir Missiles...if you want to be moar khanid)
Khanid Logi and Tanker, sometimes AV Heavy or Sniper.
I believe all these roles are support for front line soldiers.
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Atiim
Titans of Phoenix
14198
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Posted - 2014.12.08 15:04:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:THUNDERGROOVE wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:AV isn't too strong right now.
You're all talking about ONE AV weapon so quit being coy and come out and say you think swarms are OP. I mean it does only take 2 volleys of Minmatar Commando swarms to down a complex 60 plated Incubus. It's hardly even ISK intensive considering you don't actually need to run the prototype swarms on a prototype suit. The suit never should have gotten a bonus to swarm damage. you get the same effect from a proto gallente assault. the max minmando nets about +40 actual damage. TTK is identical. It's amazing how people think commandos have any significant advantages over assaults. It does however add up when you add in proficiency, damage modules, and other exterior benefits. The 10% + 15% + 7 (or 12ish)% really adds up.
No, it doesn't.
Matari Commando: +10%, +15%, +7%, +6.08% = +38.8% (1735 HP/volley)
Matari Assault (3 DMs): +15%, +7%, +6.08%, +3.99% = +33.4% (1660 HP/volley)
When taking everything into account difference is 63 HP, which has absolutely no TTK difference even against MLT LAVs.
As for exterior benefits the Assault has better speed (the 2nd most important thing when using SLs), a better Scan Profile which allows you to dodge Vehicle Scans, a Grenade Slot which gives you Lai Dais, and a far better slot layout.
The 1st Matari Commando
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Thaddeus Reynolds
Facepunch Security
113
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Posted - 2014.12.08 15:19:00 -
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Atiim wrote:True Adamance wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:THUNDERGROOVE wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:AV isn't too strong right now.
You're all talking about ONE AV weapon so quit being coy and come out and say you think swarms are OP. I mean it does only take 2 volleys of Minmatar Commando swarms to down a complex 60 plated Incubus. It's hardly even ISK intensive considering you don't actually need to run the prototype swarms on a prototype suit. The suit never should have gotten a bonus to swarm damage. you get the same effect from a proto gallente assault. the max minmando nets about +40 actual damage. TTK is identical. It's amazing how people think commandos have any significant advantages over assaults. It does however add up when you add in proficiency, damage modules, and other exterior benefits. The 10% + 15% + 7 (or 12ish)% really adds up. No, it doesn't. Matari Commando: +10%, +15%, +7%, +6.08% = +38.8% (1735 HP/volley) Matari Assault (3 DMs): +15%, +7%, +6.08%, +3.99% = +33.4% (1660 HP/volley) When taking everything into account difference is 63 HP, which has absolutely no TTK difference even against MLT LAVs. As for exterior benefits the Assault has better speed (the 2nd most important thing when using SLs), a better Scan Profile which allows you to dodge Vehicle Scans, a Grenade Slot which gives you Lai Dais, and a far better slot layout.
Bonuses stack multiplicatively, making it closer to a 45.28% on the Matari Commando and a 36.85% on the Mattari Assault...giving you an actual damage per volley difference of about 105.3...which can have a TTK difference against regular LAVs too (assuming my assumption about how skills stack is correct)
Khanid Logi and Tanker, sometimes AV Heavy or Sniper.
I believe all these roles are support for front line soldiers.
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Atiim
Titans of Phoenix
14199
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Posted - 2014.12.08 15:38:00 -
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Against an LAV? Not even remotely.
Matari Commando vs. Saga
Volley 1: -1323 HP (721.6 Armor HP Remaining)
Volley 2: -2067 HP (-1346 Structure HP Remaining)
TTK: 2.5s
Matari Assault vs. Saga
Volley 1: -1328 HP (128 Shield HP / 900 Armor HP Remaining)
Volley 2: -1838 HP ( -964 Structure HP Remaining)
TTK: 2.5s
The 1st Matari Commando
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
5685
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Posted - 2014.12.08 18:53:00 -
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Thaddeus Reynolds wrote:which can have a TTK difference against regular LAVs too (assuming my assumption about how skills stack is correct)
Your assumption is incorrect. this has been tested to death.
EVE Online is what you get when engineers attempt to create "fun" without consulting someone who comprehends the word.
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manboar thunder fist
Dead Man's Game
RUST415
288
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Posted - 2014.12.09 11:15:00 -
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While on the face value a weapon might not look particularly stronger with the minmatar commando
It is no doubt that the reload bonus and damage bonus contribute to the swarms heavy dps
The minmando with a wirykomi swarm can down a lot of vehicles with the exception of double hardened gunnlogis in 3 volleys.
This is clearly a ridiculous notion since it means that against even 2 basic swarms a pilot stands very little chance unless he runs after 1 volley from 1 player connects. Given rendering is STILL an issue, despite popular av belief, this suit is actually incredibly potent.
"If there is a strafe nerf in this game, remove hit detection"- manboar 2014
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Mexxx Dust-Slayer
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
155
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Posted - 2014.12.09 11:21:00 -
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manboar thunder fist wrote:With the inclusion of blueprint AV, able to constantly spam suits free of charge dealing heavy damage to vehicles?
when are we going to see a blueprint python?
somas and sicas are already dirt cheap, why not a MLT python :l
A completely free AV suit is just a free kill for everyone on the field. They would be extremely easy to kill and have only a 3 shot forge or 2 volley swarm or 1 AV grenade. Not enough to kill or be a real threat to competent vehicle users. |
manboar thunder fist
Dead Man's Game
RUST415
288
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Posted - 2014.12.09 11:34:00 -
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I agree to an extent mexx
However as atiim so vehemently pointed out, the dps difference isn't astronomical and a forge doing 1-2000 damage to a target or a swarm stopping it's regen is enough to kill most vehicles except those hiding in the redline or behind a hill.
2 basic swarm volleys and a forge gun shot leaves a python in armour, able to be killed by even light weapons and hmgs if
they focus on it.
Rattati mentioned ads changes would come about in quick hotfixes
But I feel the issue has been brushed under the carpet
A dropship simply has very little chance to effectively counter a target that can fire before rendering, deal heavy damage fast, and dodge shots all at the same time.
It's not a huge issue until you also bring into account 2 shot kill rail tanks, the lethal array of turret installations which ALL are particularly potent against dropships, And other issues such as lack of manouverability to escape and no specific escape modules or skill based escape possible.
All you can do is hit your afterburner and run, and if you're on low HP, the swarm is guaranteed to kill you.
You are helpless
Nothing can change that
This isn't the way forward. Providing free Spam apex suits for av is just one in a long line of quiet nerfs and tweaks to ads gameplay.
"If there is a strafe nerf in this game, remove hit detection"- manboar 2014
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Greiv Rabbah
13Art of War13
46
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Posted - 2014.12.09 12:30:00 -
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Joel II X wrote:MLT Forge Gun BPO
MLT Swarm Launcher BPO
'Dren' Swarm Launcher
MLT AV Grenade BPO
MLT Plasma Cannon BPO
Those are the only blueprints that I know of, and they're not that potent.
Also staff recruiter swarm launcher.
BTW, dren swarm comes with a vehicle bpo
BTW BTW, if you're working the recruitment angle, there also is a recruiter vehicle bpo.
Yes there is an av bpo, just as there is a vehicle bpo
Crymoar crymoar crymoar
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
5690
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Posted - 2014.12.09 12:59:00 -
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I love how everyone screams that militia AV BPOs are unfair even though the only way you're killing a vehicle is with 3-4 of them unless you're AV Jesus.
Hate to say it, but the ability to mass Fire upon you does not make a weapon OP.
This is almost as good as marauder pilots in beta screaming about MLT weapons because people like me would wait to pull the trigger for a killshot.
OMG MLT AV IS OP IT SHOULD BE UTTERLY WORTHLESS!!!
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manboar thunder fist
Dead Man's Game
RUST415
290
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Posted - 2014.12.09 15:41:00 -
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If it was the other way around and Python got a bpo first then you would be upset. So calm your cry baby tatis and give us bpo!
It wouldn't have to be amazing.
Just a weaker version of Python. Would be easier to kill than a lav anyway
"If there is a strafe nerf in this game, remove hit detection"- manboar 2014
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manboar thunder fist
Dead Man's Game
RUST415
290
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Posted - 2014.12.09 15:54:00 -
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A prefit Ads blueprint
Yes.
Militia gear fit
"If there is a strafe nerf in this game, remove hit detection"- manboar 2014
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Drecain Midular
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
24
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Posted - 2014.12.09 18:48:00 -
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Like that wouldnt break the ground game over its knee :/ Everyone and their mother would spam DS to place links high in orbital cover and It. Would. Suck. |
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