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Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
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Posted - 2014.12.08 18:53:00 -
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Thaddeus Reynolds wrote:which can have a TTK difference against regular LAVs too (assuming my assumption about how skills stack is correct)
Your assumption is incorrect. this has been tested to death.
EVE Online is what you get when engineers attempt to create "fun" without consulting someone who comprehends the word.
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manboar thunder fist
Dead Man's Game
RUST415
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Posted - 2014.12.09 11:15:00 -
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While on the face value a weapon might not look particularly stronger with the minmatar commando
It is no doubt that the reload bonus and damage bonus contribute to the swarms heavy dps
The minmando with a wirykomi swarm can down a lot of vehicles with the exception of double hardened gunnlogis in 3 volleys.
This is clearly a ridiculous notion since it means that against even 2 basic swarms a pilot stands very little chance unless he runs after 1 volley from 1 player connects. Given rendering is STILL an issue, despite popular av belief, this suit is actually incredibly potent.
"If there is a strafe nerf in this game, remove hit detection"- manboar 2014
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Mexxx Dust-Slayer
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.12.09 11:21:00 -
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manboar thunder fist wrote:With the inclusion of blueprint AV, able to constantly spam suits free of charge dealing heavy damage to vehicles?
when are we going to see a blueprint python?
somas and sicas are already dirt cheap, why not a MLT python :l
A completely free AV suit is just a free kill for everyone on the field. They would be extremely easy to kill and have only a 3 shot forge or 2 volley swarm or 1 AV grenade. Not enough to kill or be a real threat to competent vehicle users. |
manboar thunder fist
Dead Man's Game
RUST415
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Posted - 2014.12.09 11:34:00 -
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I agree to an extent mexx
However as atiim so vehemently pointed out, the dps difference isn't astronomical and a forge doing 1-2000 damage to a target or a swarm stopping it's regen is enough to kill most vehicles except those hiding in the redline or behind a hill.
2 basic swarm volleys and a forge gun shot leaves a python in armour, able to be killed by even light weapons and hmgs if
they focus on it.
Rattati mentioned ads changes would come about in quick hotfixes
But I feel the issue has been brushed under the carpet
A dropship simply has very little chance to effectively counter a target that can fire before rendering, deal heavy damage fast, and dodge shots all at the same time.
It's not a huge issue until you also bring into account 2 shot kill rail tanks, the lethal array of turret installations which ALL are particularly potent against dropships, And other issues such as lack of manouverability to escape and no specific escape modules or skill based escape possible.
All you can do is hit your afterburner and run, and if you're on low HP, the swarm is guaranteed to kill you.
You are helpless
Nothing can change that
This isn't the way forward. Providing free Spam apex suits for av is just one in a long line of quiet nerfs and tweaks to ads gameplay.
"If there is a strafe nerf in this game, remove hit detection"- manboar 2014
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Greiv Rabbah
13Art of War13
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Posted - 2014.12.09 12:30:00 -
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Joel II X wrote:MLT Forge Gun BPO
MLT Swarm Launcher BPO
'Dren' Swarm Launcher
MLT AV Grenade BPO
MLT Plasma Cannon BPO
Those are the only blueprints that I know of, and they're not that potent.
Also staff recruiter swarm launcher.
BTW, dren swarm comes with a vehicle bpo
BTW BTW, if you're working the recruitment angle, there also is a recruiter vehicle bpo.
Yes there is an av bpo, just as there is a vehicle bpo
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Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
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Posted - 2014.12.09 12:59:00 -
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I love how everyone screams that militia AV BPOs are unfair even though the only way you're killing a vehicle is with 3-4 of them unless you're AV Jesus.
Hate to say it, but the ability to mass Fire upon you does not make a weapon OP.
This is almost as good as marauder pilots in beta screaming about MLT weapons because people like me would wait to pull the trigger for a killshot.
OMG MLT AV IS OP IT SHOULD BE UTTERLY WORTHLESS!!!
EVE Online is what you get when engineers attempt to create "fun" without consulting someone who comprehends the word.
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manboar thunder fist
Dead Man's Game
RUST415
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Posted - 2014.12.09 15:41:00 -
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If it was the other way around and Python got a bpo first then you would be upset. So calm your cry baby tatis and give us bpo!
It wouldn't have to be amazing.
Just a weaker version of Python. Would be easier to kill than a lav anyway
"If there is a strafe nerf in this game, remove hit detection"- manboar 2014
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manboar thunder fist
Dead Man's Game
RUST415
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Posted - 2014.12.09 15:54:00 -
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A prefit Ads blueprint
Yes.
Militia gear fit
"If there is a strafe nerf in this game, remove hit detection"- manboar 2014
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Drecain Midular
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.12.09 18:48:00 -
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Like that wouldnt break the ground game over its knee :/ Everyone and their mother would spam DS to place links high in orbital cover and It. Would. Suck. |
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