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B1G Boss
B0SS initiative
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Posted - 2014.11.30 06:24:00 -
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Hey guys just a quick post asking how bad is frame rate.
Don't hold back and share your opinion and or facts.
CEO of Binary Mercs
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Meeko Fent
Kirkinen Risk Control
Caldari State
2163
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Posted - 2014.11.30 06:39:00 -
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I personally find it fine. I can't tell if its dipped too low.
But I have a standard definition TV :-P
I Live for Tears
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DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency
6205
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Posted - 2014.11.30 06:55:00 -
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Fine unless there's equipment spam. Though CCP is getting ready to clamp down hard on them.
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Kaze Eyrou
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
1033
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Posted - 2014.11.30 07:19:00 -
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Honestly, I'd love to get a capture card with a frame per second tracker so I can give hard data on these sort of thread because I hate saying very speculative statements such as "Frame rate is s***" and such.
That said, I'm going to eat my shoe when I say it seems better after the 1.9 update and using a fresh installed client of 2716MB.
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CIO ("Proto Forum Warrior")
Learning Coalition & RTG
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Jebus McKing
Jebus Hates Scans
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Posted - 2014.11.30 10:34:00 -
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Horrible.
Frame rate drops below 30 in almost every match. Gal Lag facility is nearly unplayable in some matches.
Fps of below 30 is absolutely unacceptable in every game. If you think otherwise then you don't have a clue what you are talking about.
The standard for PC games has been 60 fps for years and now we are rapidly moving to 144 fps as the standard while even the new consoles still can't manage even a stable 1080p30fps. It is kinda embarrassing, really.
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Kevall Longstride
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2014.11.30 12:10:00 -
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Oddly enough I was playing last night and found it as smooth as glass. I very rarely suffer from low frame rate or lag. I also this week opened up the PS3, cleaned it and replaced the thermal paste on the CPU and GPU.
Unsurprisingly, given the mass produced nature of these things, the paste on the cell CPU had cracks, gaps and dried out to dust in places. The GPU was even worse with two thirds of the chip not even having paste on it. So with the TIM replaced the console is now whisper quiet as the fan isn't having to compensate for the poor contact with the heat sinks. Graphic performance in particular seems much more assured.
I would also state for full disclose that I've got an SSD in the PS3 so texture loading is much, much quicker. My internet is 150mb down and 15mb up and my entire AV system lives in a custom built unit with a fan blowing cold air in via an air brick.
I take my AV seriously.
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CEO of DUST University
Vist dustcpm.com
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CrotchGrab 360
Yon Hyaku Nijuu Moyase
1560
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Posted - 2014.11.30 12:37:00 -
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B1G Boss wrote:Hey guys just a quick post asking how bad is frame rate.
Don't hold back and share your opinion and or facts.
most games have horrible frame rate, destiny is only 30fps, i've been playing blacklight which i guess is around 45.
the only way to truely play games is on PC, not because consoles can't do 60fps, but because they always choose not to,
because of console parity. last gen is seriously destroying next gen, I didn't spent -ú350 to play games at 30fps because
people on ps3 need the same experience!!!
the FPS on dust certainly improved but turning the camera whilst driving an LAV makes me feel sick.
if you have a 2014 top of the line sony bravia 50 inch tv like me then PC is the ONLY way to go,
this console generation will be VERY short, and people will NOT be clambering to buy the newest consoles,
because they will outdated at launch just like the ps4 and xbone
DUST VIDEOS
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Clone D
Grundstein Automation
885
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Posted - 2014.11.30 13:41:00 -
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Framerate is regularly too low to aim effectively and frequently dips to the point that I can't determine what is going on.
ISK Trader
channel: blitz
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CommanderBolt
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
2602
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Posted - 2014.11.30 14:00:00 -
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This is why I run solo, have voice chat turned off in the options menus, have graphics settings set to "low" (thought god knows what that actually does in this game) and most of the time I am getting stable ish framerates.
I would imagine on a good day 25-30fps, on a bad day in a squad with voice chat on with eq. spam the frame rate easily drops below 20 fps.
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"Guns for show, Knives for a pro"
MY LIFE FOR AIUR!
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sabre prime
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
910
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Posted - 2014.11.30 14:35:00 -
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IT would be good if someone who has a capture card did some framerate analysis of Dust. Just so we can have solid numbers to show CCP. The game could also be tested under different scenarios. compare pub matches, FW, PC. The Gallente research facility socket. We could do a deliberate experiment to spam equipment and see how FPS is affected.
Some objective numbers would be good.
The slow blade penetrates the shield.
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Joseph Ridgeson
WarRavens
Capital Punishment.
2809
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Posted - 2014.11.30 14:47:00 -
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Yesterday was bad enough that I actively turned off the PS3 and walked away fuming. Really laggy. Scout with Nova Knife was able to basically teleport from 30 meters away to instantly behind me several times. A single heavy with an HMG would stutter back and forth and suddenly an entire army was behind him. Was not an enjoyable experience.
It comes and goes. Some days it is fairly decent and it is fun to run around and shoot people. When you are stuttering stepping, rubberbanding, and having the oh-so wonderful turret glitch where your tank does not fire even though it sounds like it... the healthy frustration that keeps you playing and trying harder turns into the most foul of hatred and anger that would cause Pazazu to shrivel up and die.
"This is B.S! This is B.S! I paid money! Cash money, dollars money, cash money!"
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pagl1u M
Dead Man's Game
RUST415
971
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Posted - 2014.11.30 14:53:00 -
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Kevall Longstride wrote:My internet is 150mb down and 15mb up
I have a 10 mb down connection and here in Italy it is considered quite good. I wonder why we, italian players, have lag in PC....
One of the few assaults you'll find in a PC match!
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Sir Dukey
Murphys-Law
General Tso's Alliance
1195
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Posted - 2014.11.30 15:09:00 -
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B1G Boss wrote:Hey guys just a quick post asking how bad is frame rate.
Don't hold back and share your opinion and or facts.
Fine, unless there are Asians playing on American servers.
Chocolate Juice
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Bethhy
Ancient Exiles.
2513
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Posted - 2014.11.30 15:55:00 -
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Kevall Longstride wrote:Oddly enough I was playing last night and found it as smooth as glass. I very rarely suffer from low frame rate or lag. I also this week opened up the PS3, cleaned it and replaced the thermal paste on the CPU and GPU.
Unsurprisingly, given the mass produced nature of these things, the paste on the cell CPU had cracks, gaps and dried out to dust in places. The GPU was even worse with two thirds of the chip not even having paste on it. So with the TIM replaced the console is now whisper quiet as the fan isn't having to compensate for the poor contact with the heat sinks. Graphic performance in particular seems much more assured.
I would also state for full disclose that I've got an SSD in the PS3 so texture loading is much, much quicker. My internet is 150mb down and 15mb up and my entire AV system lives in a custom built unit with a fan blowing cold air in via an air brick.
I take my AV seriously.
*rolls eyes*
People have brand new PS3's with a fresh SSD in it... And still approaching the new Sockets causes Massive texture pop ins.. Massive Texture muddyness at certain distances...
LAV's driving full speed into these sockets freeze in mid air while the socket loads in.
Even returning to your merc quarters after a match... Your avatar goes through 3 phases as the textures load in.
Texture pops and load ins are the NUMBER 1 Flaw of Unreal Engine... It's known industry wide and WHY most developers don't build FPS games on it anymore even though it's so cheap.
It doesn't matter if you have Google fibre and are getting 900 MB/S down... The Playstation 3 caps out at 10mb/s...
The playstation runs smooth and quiet with a SSD... There rarely should be noise coming from the PS3 if it has a SSD.. Regardless of how hot the unit is.
Taken all that into account. the frame rate is still horrible. The Visual cues are one thing and can be annoying.. But most of that is attributed to terrible rudimentary net code.
The problem with the frame rate drops is the inconsistency in inputs. When the frame rate drops.. Your inputs per second that are registered drops aswell... Leaving you pressing buttons and moving and getting little to no response out of the game... This is often when you find yourself stuck on boxes or having a difficult time running around a corner..
It is terrible in certain matches when you get 10 mercenaries+ engaging in a small area.. The frame rates dip well below 20... 15 i would say... Mix the inconsistent frame rate.. With Terrible Net code, With Terrible Hit detection and the game becomes this frustrating ball of rage... because the mechanics of the game don't run consistent in anyway causing deaths to every mercenary who has ever played this game.
The concept of paying for your items lossed everytime is amazing.. CCP's ability to implement solid mechanics to support this concept is just abysmal. They will tweak a gun statistic 200 times though. |
B1G Boss
B0SS initiative
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Posted - 2014.11.30 17:02:00 -
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Wow guys these are some great statements.
CEO of Binary Mercs
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Jebus McKing
Jebus Hates Scans
1128
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Posted - 2014.11.30 19:00:00 -
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Kevall Longstride wrote:Oddly enough I was playing last night and found it as smooth as glass. I very rarely suffer from low frame rate or lag. [stuff that is completely unrelated to frame rate]
Really?
~smooth as glass~
Tell me, how deep ... ugh, never mind
This game does not ever run with a stable frame rate and this is not acceptable.
30 frames per second, stable, that is what I want and I don't want to hear any excuses. Everything below that is embarrassing and close to unplayable.
Play another shooter on PC with 60fps for a while and then come back to Dust and tell me again that you don't suffer from low frame rate.
I don't care what has to be done to get to a stable frame rate of 30fps. Just do it. The game has been in this pathetic state for far too long now.
The core stuff just has never really been fixed. Frame rate, lag issues, getting stuck on terrain, clunky controls, hit detection, hit boxes, basically everything that is important and the basis of every competitive shooter keeps getting ignored. And this is nothing new. It's been like that since beta. But after two years now I'm just tired of begging and getting completely ignored.
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Starlight Burner
ROGUE RELICS
VP Gaming Alliance
41
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Posted - 2014.11.30 23:09:00 -
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It's that bad for me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SM2IIMq0lwQ
Thank god for CCP Rattati!!
Rogue Relics is my home away from home.
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Spaceman-Rob
Namtar Elite
Gallente Federation
628
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Posted - 2014.12.01 02:40:00 -
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Lol wtf, you've got some serious fps problem going on there buddy, I have never had it that bad lol wow. |
Clone D
Grundstein Automation
887
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Posted - 2014.12.01 03:00:00 -
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^^^^ Yes, this nonsense happens to me all of the time.
ISK Trader
channel: blitz
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JIMvc2
The Wanga Empire Strikes Back
444
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Posted - 2014.12.01 04:17:00 -
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Jebus McKing wrote:Horrible.
Frame rate drops below 30 in almost every match. Gal Lag facility is nearly unplayable in some matches.
Fps of below 30 is absolutely unacceptable in every game. If you think otherwise then you don't have a clue what you are talking about.
The standard for PC games has been 60 fps for years and now we are rapidly moving to 144 fps as the standard while even the new consoles still can't manage even a stable 1080p30fps. It is kinda embarrassing, really.
Even most Wii U games run in 60fps, while most so called AAA games for the other consoles only aim to look good on screenshots and youtube videos.
Oh look we have a cave troll.
MAG Raven vet 7 times. Favorite weapon F90 and Highest Kills 78 and 23 deaths.
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Sequal Rise
Les Desanusseurs
349
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Posted - 2014.12.01 08:12:00 -
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Happens all the time since 1.9 . They called it an "FPS upgrade" or smt like that.
Take out all forms of scans and you'll see how great Dust can be.
Scrubs will cry, good players will love it.
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Joel II X
Bacon with a bottle of Quafe
4856
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Posted - 2014.12.01 08:43:00 -
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Unless it drops to the single digits, I have gotten used to the low frames this game has.
Super Mario Bros. has more FPS than this game.
Everytime I play any new game, I **** in my pants because of how much better it performs against Dust. |
Cat Merc
Onslaught Inc
RISE of LEGION
13472
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Posted - 2014.12.01 10:10:00 -
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As smooth as sand paper.
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thehellisgoingon
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
20
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Posted - 2014.12.01 11:44:00 -
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.25 second ping advantage so as long as they keep moving they will not take damage. They. You know who you are. |
TYCHUS MAXWELL
The Fun Police
629
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Posted - 2014.12.01 12:59:00 -
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I've been playing with this recently with my HD cable switching between 720p and 480i. The 480i does feel much more smooth and I believe just my personal tests over the past week prove it.
For me, when playing on 720p and try harding especially with all the scout/hmg spam, I will go through a match with .9 K/D with something like 9 kills and 10 deaths.
When I switch to 480i, however, I consistently get 2.5-4.0 even KD/R with scores of about 15/6 at the low end and 35/5 at the absolute high end. This is all using ADV gear and playing for the objectives typically against proto pub squads.
In my opinion, you shouldn't play in 720p the frame rate tanks too much especially in CQC fire fights where its the worst offender. I for one will take the lame aspect of downgrading my settings to 480i to play this game with less frustration. Nothing worse then having proto bears kill you with 80 armor left when they had such an advantage to begin with which happens all the time in 720p for me.
It's an absolute must with sniping or forge sniping for sure as the fire delay ruins your shots intermittently. Not too mention the Assault forge misfire seems to occur more in 720p though that may just be coincidence.
As to the OP question specifically, pretty ****** frame rate as 720p really shouldn't drop the frame rate so much except when everyone first starts spawning in. |
Spectral Clone
Abandoned Privilege
Top Men.
3187
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Posted - 2014.12.01 14:31:00 -
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Kevall Longstride wrote:Oddly enough I was playing last night and found it as smooth as glass. I very rarely suffer from low frame rate or lag. I also this week opened up the PS3, cleaned it and replaced the thermal paste on the CPU and GPU.
Unsurprisingly, given the mass produced nature of these things, the paste on the cell CPU had cracks, gaps and dried out to dust in places. The GPU was even worse with two thirds of the chip not even having paste on it. So with the TIM replaced the console is now whisper quiet as the fan isn't having to compensate for the poor contact with the heat sinks. Graphic performance in particular seems much more assured.
I would also state for full disclose that I've got an SSD in the PS3 so texture loading is much, much quicker. My internet is 150mb down and 15mb up and my entire AV system lives in a custom built unit with a fan blowing cold air in via an air brick.
I take my AV seriously.
To improve framerate:
1. Replace thermal paste and clean PS3 inside (see above).
2. Drill ventilation holes in your PS3 chassis above the cooling fan, and also all over the bottom plate.
3. Buy a USB laptop cooler and place it below your PS3, so that it will blow cold air through the ventilation holes in the bottom of the PS3 and cool the mainboard plates directly.
Now your PS3 will not be getting hot, and you will not get drops in framerate as often.
I am currently modding my PS3 like the above, will post an article on how to do these modifications later.
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Spectral Clone
Abandoned Privilege
Top Men.
3187
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Posted - 2014.12.01 14:33:00 -
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Clone D wrote:Framerate is regularly too low to aim effectively and frequently dips to the point that I can't determine what is going on.
Your PS3 is not being cooled efficiently, replace your thermal paste.
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Spectral Clone
Abandoned Privilege
Top Men.
3187
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Posted - 2014.12.01 14:34:00 -
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Your PS3 is also overheating. Replace thermal paste ASAP or it is going to break down in a few months. Typical thermal throttling behaviour of CPU and/or GPU.
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Starlight Burner
ROGUE RELICS
VP Gaming Alliance
44
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Posted - 2014.12.01 16:43:00 -
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Spectral Clone wrote:Your PS3 is also overheating. Replace thermal paste ASAP or it is going to break down in a few months. Typical thermal throttling behaviour of CPU and/or GPU.
Sounds like a lot of bullshit to me. As I've stated in my other threads, this has been a issue ever since Beta. This is my newest PS3, that I got back in June.
No other game causes this extreme Frame rate drop. I will not give CCP ANY excuses as this isn't a new issue.
People should stop damage controlling for CCP.
Thank god for CCP Rattati!!
Rogue Relics is my home away from home.
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Patrilicus
Trash Bucket
82
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Posted - 2014.12.01 16:59:00 -
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Lets be serious for a moment.
Can you alter your ps3 to cool more efficiently and reduce drops in framerate? Yes
Can you adjust the video output to help smooth framerate? Yes
Is the framerate for this game 'good' or even decent? No
I am suprised by how many people think that its ok just because it has been worse or that they have gotten used to it.
I get used to it too and have matches where I go 25/2 with 3500wp but if I go play any other fps shooter on the ps3, ps4, or pc and come back to dust it is noticeably choppy even with 150mb down 15mb up
You can learn to play with it but let's be serious. It is not good.
Garbage Day!
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