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lateriss ObscuriLateris 15	Posted - 2014.12.01 16:34:00 - [31] - Quote Its a bummer we wont hear anything about Project Legion anytime soon. >...>
God Hates Lags Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 1433	Posted - 2014.12.01 20:39:00 - [32] - Quote I wouldn't take that bet, but I'd imagine that about half of the shanghai team has been reallocated to improving Dust while a small subsection has been put on continuing to "explore" the possibility of Legion. Basically, my feeling is that the choice has been to make dust as much of a workable (meaning profitable) game as possible before any further work goes into Legion. Rail Rifle and Bolt Pistol Champion Fatal Absolution Director
Sigourney Reever Nova Corps Marines Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 54	Posted - 2014.12.02 03:22:00 - [33] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: Sigourney Reever wrote: Soraya Xel wrote: Mobius Wyvern wrote: An entire year after they announce ditching Dust 514 for a PC game that some of the current community may not even be able to play Does it feel like they have ditched DUST 514? Yes, It feels like Dust514, the MMOFPS, deeply integrated within the EVE universe, has been ditched. Okay, I do feel your pain on that one, as I believe the biggest selling feature for DUST 514 is still a link to EVE. CCP's not against revisiting the EVE link, but they feel DUST (or Legion) needs to be a very good game independently first. (I think the EVE link will help it reach that point, IMHO.) But Uprising 1.9 would not have happened if DUST 514 had been ditched. 1.9 is just a more articulate monetization of existing assets. Until I hear anything from EVE devs regarding EVE: Legion, or the unified EVE Online (EVE/Valk/Legion) they seem to be setting up for, its dead. The only thing that really makes these games more interesting than others is EVE as represented in CCP's approach to sandbox multiplayer single shard gaming, player economy, etc. The funniest part is that they have the special sauce, they just never served us very much of it after running scared from Incarna. It's still the fulcrum by which CCP's fate pivots. Dust thus far has only delivered the 'module system' akin to EVE. After 5 years (1st gameplay demos in '09) and we're still tweaking a basic and functionally incomplete set. What did EVE look like 2 yrs after launch? (I found it in '07-'08) By that metric is Dust/Legion equally far along?
DaReaperPW Net 7 40	Posted - 2014.12.03 16:42:00 - [34] - Quote Bendtner92 wrote: Soraya Xel wrote: Does it feel like they have ditched DUST 514? Leaving a skeleton crew working on a game screams ditched game, not sure how you can say otherwise. Glances at the dust roadmap.. i think your are wrong
Bendtner92 Imperfects Negative-Feedback 2256	Posted - 2014.12.03 17:33:00 - [35] - Quote DaReaperPW wrote: Bendtner92 wrote: Leaving a skeleton crew working on a game screams ditched game, not sure how you can say otherwise. Glances at the dust roadmap.. i think your are wrong Nothing about my statement is wrong though. Winner of the EU Squad Cup & the closed beta Tester's Tournament. Go Go Power Rangers! R.I.P MAG.
DaReaperPW Net 7 42	Posted - 2014.12.03 23:39:00 - [36] - Quote Bendtner92 wrote: DaReaperPW wrote: Bendtner92 wrote: Leaving a skeleton crew working on a game screams ditched game, not sure how you can say otherwise. Glances at the dust roadmap.. i think your are wrong Nothing about my statement is wrong though. working on a game =! ditched. but meh. your definition of ditched is prolly different then mine, but i'll agree to disagree =)
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 5309	Posted - 2014.12.03 23:48:00 - [37] - Quote Welcome back Aeon. CCP has been putting more effort into Dust 514 recently. With such a lean dev team working on two games is a terrible use of resources. My guess is Legion is on ice for an indeterminate amount of time. My advice to you, playa...
Avinash Decker Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic 157	Posted - 2014.12.03 23:54:00 - [38] - Quote Bendtner92 wrote: DaReaperPW wrote: Bendtner92 wrote: Leaving a skeleton crew working on a game screams ditched game, not sure how you can say otherwise. Glances at the dust roadmap.. i think your are wrong Nothing about my statement is wrong though. True it's still a skeleton crew, just because CCP are doing tentative updates doesn't mean they got many hires that replaced the original people . Most likely some Legion and Dust developers are going back and forth or something else.
Avinash Decker Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic 157	Posted - 2014.12.03 23:56:00 - [39] - Quote Bendtner92 wrote: DaReaperPW wrote: Bendtner92 wrote: Leaving a skeleton crew working on a game screams ditched game, not sure how you can say otherwise. Glances at the dust roadmap.. i think your are wrong Nothing about my statement is wrong though. True it's still a skeleton crew, just because CCP are doing tentative updates doesn't mean they got many hires that replaced the original people . Most likely some Legion and Dust developers are going back and forth or something else.
Hakyou Brutor Titans of Phoenix 1730	Posted - 2014.12.04 01:09:00 - [40] - Quote Well, I'm okay with it. Ratatti and a few other devs have been doing much better in the last 6 months than original shanghai did in 2 1/2 years. Knight Soiaire = my bae

McFurious TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback 804	Posted - 2014.12.07 13:18:00 - [41] - Quote CCP never fails to disappoint. I'll stick with Star Citizen. Legion is vaporware. Half Irish. Often angry. Grizzled Masshole Closed Beta Vet PC > Console
Hynox Xitio Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1841	Posted - 2014.12.07 14:27:00 - [42] - Quote McFurious wrote: CCP never fails to disappoint. I'll stick with Star Citizen. Legion is vaporware. Correction: I'll stick with Perpetual Beta fueled by PC Gamer Xenophobia. Legion is vaporware. The horror! The horror! ( -íº -£-û -íº)
Hynox Xitio Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1898	Posted - 2014.12.07 15:45:00 - [43] - Quote I took the time to write up a lengthy post regarding Legion's absence from Fanfest 2015, as well as listing every logical conclusion that can be reached from this decision. Check it out! (also whine for a PS4 build) The horror! The horror! ( -íº -£-û -íº)
Mobius Wyvern Sky-FIRE 5551	Posted - 2015.01.02 04:35:00 - [44] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: Mobius Wyvern wrote: An entire year after they announce ditching Dust 514 for a PC game that some of the current community may not even be able to play Does it feel like they have ditched DUST 514? The funny thing about these posts being made before the Roadmap release is now there are even MORE questions. The biggest one being: if Dust 514 is now getting client updates again, what does this mean for Project Legion? I think pretty much all of us are in concurrence on the idea that if the game is going to do any better, it's going to need to eventually move to a different platform. Is this still the intention, or is the current waterfall of new AURUM content just a prelude to the home office deciding they've gotten all they can here and pulling the plug? Amidst the blue skies A link from past to future The sheltering wings of the protector
Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 5166	Posted - 2015.01.02 05:38:00 - [45] - Quote Mobius, I feel the people working on DUST have a long-term commitment to their players. I think we're all very well aware that the PS3 platform has a limited lifespan, but obviously CCP is not ready to announce anything more in that department at this time. CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
Aeon Amadi Chimera Core 7651	Posted - 2015.01.02 07:58:00 - [46] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: Mobius, I feel the people working on DUST have a long-term commitment to their players. I think we're all very well aware that the PS3 platform has a limited lifespan, but obviously CCP is not ready to announce anything more in that department at this time. CCP doesn't seem to be ready to announce anything at any time. Part of the reason for discontent within the community is because of the silence game they keep playing, something we expected would change after Fanfest because the big surprise was out. It doesn't seem like anything was learned from the mistakes at Fanfest. Aeon's Links In an effort to be "positive" I will agree to everything CCP does.
Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 5167	Posted - 2015.01.02 14:46:00 - [47] - Quote The fact that CCP is smart enough to not be making a big deal at Fanfest this year is proof CCP has learned from the mistakes of the last two years of Fanfest. It's not a 'silence game', so much as they're not at a point where they have something they can announce. CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 5987	Posted - 2015.01.02 14:55:00 - [48] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: It's not a 'silence game', so much as they're not at a point where they have something they can announce. It's been a year, Soraya. You mean that in a year there hasn't been any measurable progress on Legion? If so, that's ******* terrifying. If so, we'll have an alpha sometime in Q4 2019. My advice to you, playa...
Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 5167	Posted - 2015.01.02 15:05:00 - [49] - Quote Just because there is nothing that can be announced doesn't mean it's not "measurable progress". CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 5989	Posted - 2015.01.02 15:35:00 - [50] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: Just because there is nothing that can be announced doesn't mean it's not "measurable progress". Measurable progress, in and of itself, is an announcement. My advice to you, playa...

steadyhand amarr shadows of 514 3438	Posted - 2015.01.02 17:53:00 - [51] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: Just because there is nothing that can be announced doesn't mean it's not "measurable progress". sadly soraya your having to fight CCPs rep here, history points to the fact that CCP are awful at making new games... i think the community can safely assume legion is not happening for a long time (years) because if it was impending we would be seeing something by now. with valk also coming up (if that ever comes out itself) its a smart assumption that required resources are focused their. i dont really have much faith in the company not to cashcow dust until the ps3 install base moves along. and then close the game down and just focus on EvE again with Valk being a one development due to novel tech making it being an easy sell. the community has nothing to base any good faith on from CCP or CPMs until that changes i cant see legion communty not being hostile to being told everything fine and working well. that has just simply never been the case with anything CCP has ever made. ....i dont really have a point here other than posts always come across as the community not being reasonable which in some cases probably fair but in this one... in regards to CCP developments and are we ever actually ever going to see any kind of progress outside of talk... all evidence points to it will be talk for years dont wait around You can never have to many chaples -Templar True adamance
Lady MDK Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 237	Posted - 2015.01.02 18:19:00 - [52] - Quote I assume that DUST will continue to evolve while the playerbase is around/paying for it. What CCP need to do in my opinion is let us know that Legion is being developed in parallel and will take over once DUSt has reached its logical conclusion and can be developed no further. But until we hear it from CCP wtf is going on over there? Cus what we heard last year was we are moving development to PC hoorah!! Even as someone who is primarily a PC gamer it was a touch confusing why they would do it.... having just started creating a community of console players. Anyone getting annoyed by reading of the above post should consider the following. I don't care so neither should you :)
Aeon Amadi Chimera Core 7655	Posted - 2015.01.02 23:35:00 - [53] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: Just because there is nothing that can be announced doesn't mean it's not "measurable progress". We have no doubt that they've made great strides but you can't say that they're not playing the Silent Game and then say that they just don't have anything they're ready to show. That's contradictory. The community should be involved as early as possible and it has shown time and time and time again that the earlier we are involved, the better off it'll be. CCP Rattati himself has shown that this has amazing results as we can often weigh in with community crowdsourced feedback. Do -NOT- let Legion be another "retrospect and hindsight" tragedy.. There are no more excuses for why this should happen. Aeon's Links In an effort to be "positive" I will agree to everything CCP does.
ZDub 303 Escrow Removal and Acquisition Negative-Feedback 3342	Posted - 2015.01.03 00:12:00 - [54] - Quote This is just another case of the CPM being apologists for CCP instead of representing the player base like they are supposed to.
DaReaperPW Net 7 68	Posted - 2015.01.03 02:35:00 - [55] - Quote ZDub 303 wrote: This is just another case of the CPM being apologists for CCP instead of representing the player base like they are supposed to. you misunderstand the role of CPM. They are yoru voice to CCP, not the other way around. They can tell ccp to give us info till they are blue in the face, and ccp could EASILY give the CPM tons of info.. then merely go 'btw this is NDA' and CPM can;t say a word. CPM only represents you to ccp, that it. Its a one way street. And their hands are tied. Give them a break.
Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 5196	Posted - 2015.01.03 03:19:00 - [56] - Quote Aeon, it's not really possible for me to explain further within the limits of the NDA. Would if I could. :/ Thanks, DaReaper. I try and say as much as I can get away with. ;) CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
Aeon Amadi Chimera Core 7655	Posted - 2015.01.03 06:04:00 - [57] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: Aeon, it's not really possible for me to explain further within the limits of the NDA. Would if I could. :/ Thanks, DaReaper. I try and say as much as I can get away with. ;) That's fine. It's not your job to tell us, it's your job to represent us and the questions we are asking. It's the developers' job to answer and explain further. Aeon's Links In an effort to be "positive" I will agree to everything CCP does.
Jathniel 1397	Posted - 2015.01.03 07:49:00 - [58] - Quote Well, it seems that's the conclusion of the matter. I played Dust and paid money into Dust, because I liked Dust, and I wanted to support Legion development. No word being given on either, tells me that nothing is being worked on. So I won't play Dust anymore. When and if they decide to takes Dust's future more seriously, by changing platform, or at least saying they are working on it... then I'll gladly play again. They have our emails, they can annouce their intentions at any time. Retired
Leovarian L Lavitz NECROM0NGERS 1254	Posted - 2015.01.03 09:35:00 - [59] - Quote Jathniel wrote: Well, it seems that's the conclusion of the matter. I played Dust and paid money into Dust, because I liked Dust, and I wanted to support Legion development. No word being given on either, tells me that nothing is being worked on. So I won't play Dust anymore. When and if they decide to takes Dust's future more seriously, by changing platform, or at least saying they are working on it... then I'll gladly play again. They have our emails, they can annouce their intentions at any time. Just play it for fun! I spend money on dust to accrue sp and spec into fun things and enjoy myself! Ask yourself, when was the last time you were laughing over coms about pulling off some absurd fit, or giggling when someone is sent flying spectacularly by an explosion? I've had plenty of butt-hurt this week, but boy I had a ton of fun too! Play it because you like the game NOW. If you don't like it now, then don't play it. I meleed a full Fatal Absolution squad off of a roof in dom about three weeks ago, I was loosing my **** on coms I was laughing so hard, I was like, "There goes someone, I can smell it, he's in need of a good punching, and who am I to decline?* POW melee +50 xD Omni-Soldier Few are my equal in these specialties, none compare in all of them
ZDub 303 Escrow Removal and Acquisition Negative-Feedback 3342	Posted - 2015.01.03 10:17:00 - [60] - Quote DaReaperPW wrote: ZDub 303 wrote: This is just another case of the CPM being apologists for CCP instead of representing the player base like they are supposed to. you misunderstand the role of CPM. They are yoru voice to CCP, not the other way around. They can tell ccp to give us info till they are blue in the face, and ccp could EASILY give the CPM tons of info.. then merely go 'btw this is NDA' and CPM can;t say a word. CPM only represents you to ccp, that it. Its a one way street. And their hands are tied. Give them a break. I think you misunderstand the CPM. They are supposed to be our voice to CCP, not the other way around. However, about 90% of Soraya's posts are defending CCP and why they aren't talking. He's not supposed to be a CCP apologist, it just gives the impression that the CPM are Shanghai's community rep team and little else. Its a poor focus of effort and I'm calling it where I see it.



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