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DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency
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Posted - 2014.11.27 05:48:00 -
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Currently I'm using it on the Minmatar Assault and I have it at Sharp shooter V and it seems to have payed off to max out the skill. Though I'm curious, is the dispersion bonus from the Gallente Assault really that noticeable? -25%(Sharpshooter)-25%(Assault skill) would mean I would be getting a 50% reduction to dispersion.
So is it worth it for an avid AR fan such as myself?
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Kaughst
Nyain San
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.11.27 06:42:00 -
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I don't use the AR on a daily basis, but when I did get around to skilling into with the GAL AS I didn't notice to much of a difference. On the other hand the Ion pistol seemed to benefit from it well....There are plans to revamp the racial skills to GA and CA I just don't know when they will get around to it.
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Summa Militum
Hidd3n Dragon
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Posted - 2014.11.27 06:44:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Currently I'm using it on the Minmatar Assault and I have it at Sharp shooter V and it seems to have payed off to max out the skill. Though I'm curious, is the dispersion bonus from the Gallente Assault really that noticeable? -25%(Sharpshooter)-25%(Assault skill) would mean I would be getting a 50% reduction to dispersion.
So is it worth it for an avid AR fan such as myself?
All I ever use in this game is the Gallente Assault with the Assault Rifle and I have been known to kick some ass here and there. The reduced dispersion really pays off when it comes to hip-fire accuracy (it's not too hard to hip-fire a head-shot though it can be risky). Of course I have never actually played with any other class besides the Gallente Assault so I don't have any real basis for comparison. |
DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency
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Posted - 2014.11.27 06:55:00 -
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Kaughst wrote:I don't use the AR on a daily basis, but when I did get around to skilling into with the GAL AS I didn't notice to much of a difference. On the other hand the Ion pistol seemed to benefit from it well....There are plans to revamp the racial skills to GA and CA I just don't know when they will get around to it.
I really hope they don't change the GA bonus.
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2014.11.27 07:20:00 -
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I've noticed barely any difference, if any at all.
I would be very happy to have another bonus instead.
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Sleepy Shadow
Qualified Scrub
203
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Posted - 2014.11.27 08:06:00 -
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I have never noticed a significant difference between my Gallente assault using the AR and any other suit I might use. Probably should make a video and check if there is any difference.
I sure hope the Gallente gets another bonus. Caldari too.
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Reign Omega
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
1019
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Posted - 2014.11.27 08:41:00 -
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The dispersion bonus used to pay off more when the burst and tac had shite hipfire, its less effective now but still shines if youre a strafing shooter, like myself. The bloom may not reflect the change as much but the bullet grouping is a good bit tighter.
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Cat Merc
Onslaught Inc
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.11.27 09:15:00 -
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Definitely not worth it when compared to 25% less heat or 25% more ammo in the clip.
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Echo 1991
WarRavens
Capital Punishment.
592
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Posted - 2014.11.27 09:32:00 -
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Whoever thought that giving a weapon with low dispersion a bonus to reducing it is an idiot. |
Daddrobit
You Can Call Me Daddy
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Posted - 2014.11.27 10:08:00 -
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Yeah, it's noticeable, but just barely.
On the flipside though, the Gallente Assault is still a really good suit even without a good bonus.
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Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries
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Posted - 2014.11.27 10:42:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Currently I'm using it on the Minmatar Assault and I have it at Sharp shooter V and it seems to have payed off to max out the skill. Though I'm curious, is the dispersion bonus from the Gallente Assault really that noticeable? -25%(Sharpshooter)-25%(Assault skill) would mean I would be getting a 50% reduction to dispersion.
So is it worth it for an avid AR fan such as myself?
I have never noticed a difference from skilling Assault Operations to level 5 nor Sharpshooter to level 5. I have gal assault level 3 on an alt to check it (because I'm curious about the bonus as well) but I don't feel the difference there either.
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Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries
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Posted - 2014.11.27 10:46:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Definitely not worth it when compared to 25% less heat or 25% more ammo in the clip.
I would agree that it isn't worth it as much. But probably worth more than 25% reload speed ;).
Amarr assault has the most effective bonus out of all of the assault suits. The extra clip size for the Min assault is best felt when 1v1'ing a heavy which you shouldn't be doing anyway or gunning down a guy at distance when some of your bullets aren't hitting.
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Echo 1991
WarRavens
Capital Punishment.
592
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Posted - 2014.11.27 11:03:00 -
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Give it a bonus to optimal range per level. 2-3% per level won't make it have a better optimal than other weapons. |
Bradric Banewolf
D3ATH CARD
RUST415
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Posted - 2014.11.27 11:10:00 -
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I believe at a certain point it stops being affective. I mean how can you tell? 50% sounds to me like every round i fire should be a dome shot, but what do you use as a scale of measure? I think the bonus is dumb because you have the sharpshooter. The ScR has no sharpshooter, and has great accuracy! Hit detection on the TacAR is suspect as ever, but with sharpshooter 5 you would think it would be the nightmare gun that the ScR is right?
I no longer have gal assault because I thought of this a long time ago. The commando bonus is much better! It delivers results that I can see! I have gal scout, commando, and heavy proto! The assault bonus is shaky at best, and they're far to under powered in comparison to eWAR and ehp of the scout and commando. I'll get the logi next and the assault last. You make more money with the logi.
The assault bonus results in my opinion can't be proven due to the nature of what the bonus is supposed to do. Less dispersion means more rounds on target, but how can you guarantee that 50% of that is actually effective? If I aim at a target, and I'm spec'd in all the bonus does is ensure "most" of my already aimed shots hit? That's stupid?! Get a commando, and deal damage!
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Bradric Banewolf
D3ATH CARD
RUST415
484
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Posted - 2014.11.27 11:12:00 -
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Ydubbs81 RND wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Currently I'm using it on the Minmatar Assault and I have it at Sharp shooter V and it seems to have payed off to max out the skill. Though I'm curious, is the dispersion bonus from the Gallente Assault really that noticeable? -25%(Sharpshooter)-25%(Assault skill) would mean I would be getting a 50% reduction to dispersion.
So is it worth it for an avid AR fan such as myself? I have never noticed a difference from skilling Assault Operations to level 5 nor Sharpshooter to level 5. I have gal assault level 3 on an alt to check it (because I'm curious about the bonus as well) but I don't feel the difference there either.
Exactly!
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Haerr
Edimmu Warfighters
Gallente Federation
2039
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Posted - 2014.11.27 11:20:00 -
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screw the bonuses to the AR!
get it for the fitting bonuses!
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DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency
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Posted - 2014.11.27 16:42:00 -
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Haerr wrote:screw the bonuses to the AR!
get it for the fitting bonuses!
I already have the Minmatar and Amarr Assaults to level V. So that would be redundant.
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Luk Manag
of Terror
TRE GAFFEL
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Posted - 2014.11.27 17:05:00 -
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I have Gallente Assault 5, and the accuracy at range is noticeable. The AR on Gal Assault 5 almost feels like it did before all of the other racial weapons were released.
There will be bullets. ACR+SMG [CEO of Terror]
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Cat Merc
Onslaught Inc
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.11.27 17:18:00 -
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Ydubbs81 RND wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Definitely not worth it when compared to 25% less heat or 25% more ammo in the clip. I would agree that it isn't worth it as much. But probably worth more than 25% reload speed ;). Amarr assault has the most effective bonus out of all of the assault suits. The extra clip size for the Min assault is best felt when 1v1'ing a heavy which you shouldn't be doing anyway or gunning down a guy at distance when some of your bullets aren't hitting.
Well, the numbers don't seem to agree with you, as the Gallente Assault is the least popular Assault (from the latest numbers I've seen.)
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Cody Sietz
Random Gunz
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.11.27 17:20:00 -
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It's ok for kick on the normal AR and the TAR when you hipfire.
Other then that, not much of a difference.
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2014.11.27 17:51:00 -
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Echo 1991 wrote:Give it a bonus to optimal range per level. 2-3% per level won't make it have a better optimal than other weapons.
Even at 5% per level it would remain the shortest ranged rifle.
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DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency
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Posted - 2014.11.27 18:21:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Echo 1991 wrote:Give it a bonus to optimal range per level. 2-3% per level won't make it have a better optimal than other weapons. Even at 5% per level it would remain the shortest ranged rifle.
Higher damage would be better. Trying to give the AR more range goes against Gallente battle protocol which calls for CQC centric battle.
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Daddrobit
You Can Call Me Daddy
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Posted - 2014.11.27 18:22:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Echo 1991 wrote:Give it a bonus to optimal range per level. 2-3% per level won't make it have a better optimal than other weapons. Even at 5% per level it would remain the shortest ranged rifle.
Yeah, I don't think people realize how tiny a bonus the 25% to optimal really is.
7.5 meters.
That's it.
Two and a half million sp for 7.5 meters of range.
And if the enemy is inside that initial 30 meter range, (which is often the case when you PTFO) you effectively are getting no bonus at all.
I'd much rather either retain the dispersion bonus or get a bonus to armor reps or something of that ilk.
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Nirwanda Vaughns
999
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Posted - 2014.11.27 18:25:00 -
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I love the breach and burst on my gal assault, i have proto in all 4 assaults as well as prof 5 in the rifles of each, for CQC the gal assault and breach is really great. although currently i'm really in love with the republic ACR on a basic min assault, hopefully there will be some other racial BPO suits cos i'd love a minmatar themed set 
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XxGhazbaranxX
B.A.L.A.M.O.R.Y. G.L.O.R.Y.
1905
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Posted - 2014.11.27 18:26:00 -
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The thing abou maxing out gall assault and assault rifles is that with all those bonuses the combat rifle still has a smaller spread than a maxed our ar and suit. At the assault rifles range a combat rifle can theoretically hit land more bullets because of this.
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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2014.11.27 18:28:00 -
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Not really much of a difference
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DarthPlagueis TheWise
434
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Posted - 2014.11.27 18:28:00 -
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Really? I'm gone for two weeks and nobody comes into a Gal Assault thread with Breach QQ?
I expected "YES DAT BREACH AR IS SO OP WITH HIPFIRE BRO"
F*k this cash grab fix the shit that matters: unkillable uplinks, invisible remotes on null cannon hack panels, etc.
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Henrietta Unknown
Kirjuun Heiian
546
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Posted - 2014.11.27 18:57:00 -
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Gallente Assault would rock in a city environment had the Sentinels not have extra range on their HMG's. Because of that, the GalAssault is toast. Can't rep through HMG fire, and its armor preference doesn't bode well.
I have to admit that the Cal Assault is better off in its own territory. The Gallente can still wreck outdoors provided with cover, that's for certain.
Give the Magsex some love.
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Meeko Fent
Kirkinen Risk Control
Caldari State
2148
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Posted - 2014.11.27 19:02:00 -
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Ehhhh...
Prolly not.
Don't the skills stack, so either your assault skill will be worth less, or your sharpshooter will be worth less?
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Jathniel
G I A N T
1305
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Posted - 2014.11.27 19:04:00 -
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If you use the TAR, the difference is very noticeable.
The TAR is wonderfully well-behaved on a maxed Gal assault.
As a TAR user, I love the difference..... but not enough to actually use a Gal assault. I hate the Gal assault suit.
The difference is also noticeable on the BurstAR. But the BurstAR is semi-viable right now, so you really can't appreciate the difference.
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