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DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency
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Posted - 2014.11.27 19:49:00 -
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Jathniel wrote:If you use the TAR, the difference is very noticeable.
The TAR is wonderfully well-behaved on a maxed Gal assault.
As a TAR user, I love the difference..... but not enough to actually use a Gal assault. I hate the Gal assault suit.
The difference is also noticeable on the BurstAR. But the BurstAR is semi-viable right now, so you really can't appreciate the difference.
Oh well.
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
19470
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Posted - 2014.11.27 21:14:00 -
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Since the TAR's hipfire accuracy increase, I don't really feel the need for the Galassault bonus on that either.
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Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries
3476
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Posted - 2014.11.27 23:03:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Ydubbs81 RND wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Definitely not worth it when compared to 25% less heat or 25% more ammo in the clip. I would agree that it isn't worth it as much. But probably worth more than 25% reload speed ;). Amarr assault has the most effective bonus out of all of the assault suits. The extra clip size for the Min assault is best felt when 1v1'ing a heavy which you shouldn't be doing anyway or gunning down a guy at distance when some of your bullets aren't hitting. Well, the numbers don't seem to agree with you, as the Gallente Assault is the least popular Assault (from the latest numbers I've seen.)
Bonuses aren't everything....I didn't get the Cal assault for the bonus. I got it for the suit. So, the fact that more people may have cal assault than gal assault suits may not be simply because they like the reload speed to rail rifles. Because from what I see on the battlefield, the rail rifle is the least used rifle on the field.
So, apparently, they spec Cal assault for more than just the bonus. Because reload speed is worthless (especially when you don't use the rail rifle) in comparison to reducing dispersion and kick. The only thing is whether or not the bonus to dispersion is effective or not.
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Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries
3476
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Posted - 2014.11.27 23:14:00 -
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Henrietta Unknown wrote:Gallente Assault would rock in a city environment had the Sentinels not have extra range on their HMG's. Because of that, the GalAssault is toast. Can't rep through HMG fire, and its armor preference doesn't bode well.
I have to admit that the Cal Assault is better off in its own territory. The Gallente can still wreck outdoors provided with cover, that's for certain.
It's the cal assault that needs cover...not the gallente assault.
And shields can't rep through HMG fire either
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Henrietta Unknown
Kirjuun Heiian
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Posted - 2014.11.27 23:29:00 -
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Ydubbs81 RND wrote:Henrietta Unknown wrote:Gallente Assault would rock in a city environment had the Sentinels not have extra range on their HMG's. Because of that, the GalAssault is toast. Can't rep through HMG fire, and its armor preference doesn't bode well.
I have to admit that the Cal Assault is better off in its own territory. The Gallente can still wreck outdoors provided with cover, that's for certain. It's the cal assault that needs cover...not the gallente assault. And shields can't rep through HMG fire either
I never said that Caldari didn't need cover. Nor did I say shields could rep under fire. These two are obvious.
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Blueprint For Murder
Storm Wind Strikeforce
Caldari State
410
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Posted - 2014.11.27 23:42:00 -
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It makes a great difference if you use the standard AR the issue with that is that the standard ar still fails compared to any other weapon... it is the only weapon with valid balancing mechanics the rest of the rifles have been buffed beyond said mechanics usefulness so you are better off with one of them period.
They nerfed the ScrR and RR for a few weeks then caved under pressure of zombies at the door there is no point in taking these guys seriously; you better like the game the way it is because it is not going to change for the better. Back on topic I would stay away from the gk. suit because any well dispersed weapons will not function properly with the horrible balance choices the devs make.
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Foehammerr
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
122
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Posted - 2014.11.28 00:12:00 -
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I love the Gallente assault and the bonus. I leave sentinels with sore aft quarters out at 30 meters while hip firing with a Duvolle AR and moving. Although having better optimals would be nice as well.
DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Echo 1991 wrote:Give it a bonus to optimal range per level. 2-3% per level won't make it have a better optimal than other weapons. Even at 5% per level it would remain the shortest ranged rifle. Higher damage would be better. Trying to give the AR more range goes against Gallente battle protocol which calls for CQC centric battle.
Confirmed for having never played EVE or having a full understanding of Gallentean battle doctrine. You can use Gallente ships at range with rail guns and drones out to really long range with slow ships (IE the Dominix). DUST needs to emulate this at least with rails.
Also increasing optimal range doesn't mean you can shoot further, it means that your rounds hit harder out further but still hard stop at max effective range.
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Cat Merc
Onslaught Inc
RISE of LEGION
13428
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Posted - 2014.11.28 01:43:00 -
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Ydubbs81 RND wrote:Henrietta Unknown wrote:Gallente Assault would rock in a city environment had the Sentinels not have extra range on their HMG's. Because of that, the GalAssault is toast. Can't rep through HMG fire, and its armor preference doesn't bode well.
I have to admit that the Cal Assault is better off in its own territory. The Gallente can still wreck outdoors provided with cover, that's for certain. It's the cal assault that needs cover...not the gallente assault. And shields can't rep through HMG fire either
But you do survive longer.
I did a calculation a while ago and a proto HMG can deal a max DPS of like 1100 against armor.
That's quite high if you ask me :P
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DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency
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Posted - 2014.11.28 02:22:00 -
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Foehammerr wrote:I love the Gallente assault and the bonus. I leave sentinels with sore aft quarters out at 30 meters while hip firing with a Duvolle AR and moving. Although having better optimals would be nice as well. DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Echo 1991 wrote:Give it a bonus to optimal range per level. 2-3% per level won't make it have a better optimal than other weapons. Even at 5% per level it would remain the shortest ranged rifle. Higher damage would be better. Trying to give the AR more range goes against Gallente battle protocol which calls for CQC centric battle. Confirmed for having never played EVE or having a full understanding of Gallentean battle doctrine. You can use Gallente ships at range with rail guns and drones out to really long range with slow ships (IE the Dominix). DUST needs to emulate this at least with rails. Also increasing optimal range doesn't mean you can shoot further, it means that your rounds hit harder out further but still hard stop at max effective range.
Well of course in EVE the Gallente have rails but in Dust they don't. So as far as this game goes, the Gallente only use CQC weapons.
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
15151
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Posted - 2014.11.28 02:44:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Foehammerr wrote:I love the Gallente assault and the bonus. I leave sentinels with sore aft quarters out at 30 meters while hip firing with a Duvolle AR and moving. Although having better optimals would be nice as well. DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Echo 1991 wrote:Give it a bonus to optimal range per level. 2-3% per level won't make it have a better optimal than other weapons. Even at 5% per level it would remain the shortest ranged rifle. Higher damage would be better. Trying to give the AR more range goes against Gallente battle protocol which calls for CQC centric battle. Confirmed for having never played EVE or having a full understanding of Gallentean battle doctrine. You can use Gallente ships at range with rail guns and drones out to really long range with slow ships (IE the Dominix). DUST needs to emulate this at least with rails. Also increasing optimal range doesn't mean you can shoot further, it means that your rounds hit harder out further but still hard stop at max effective range. Well of course in EVE the Gallente have rails but in Dust they don't. So as far as this game goes, the Gallente only use CQC weapons.
But they don't....they also use railguns. DEMAND WHAT IS RIGHTFULLY YOURS SIR!
RECLAIM THE RAILGUN FOR THE GALLENTE EMP- I MEAN FEDERATION
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Meeko Fent
Kirkinen Risk Control
Caldari State
2154
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Posted - 2014.11.28 03:00:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:But they don't....they also use railguns. DEMAND WHAT IS RIGHTFULLY YOURS SIR!
RECLAIM THE RAILGUN FOR THE GALLENTE EMP- I MEAN FEDERATION
Dude, seriously?
Then I want a Caldari Blaster Shotgun.
Caldari use Blasters for their brawling work. Let me have my toys.
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DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency
6110
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Posted - 2014.11.28 03:14:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:
Well of course in EVE the Gallente have rails but in Dust they don't. So as far as this game goes, the Gallente only use CQC weapons.
But they don't....they also use railguns. DEMAND WHAT IS RIGHTFULLY YOURS SIR! RECLAIM THE RAILGUN FOR THE GALLENTE EMP- I MEAN FEDERATION
I'd rather get that Assault Carbine(Gallente SMG) ;)
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
15153
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Posted - 2014.11.28 03:25:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:True Adamance wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:
Well of course in EVE the Gallente have rails but in Dust they don't. So as far as this game goes, the Gallente only use CQC weapons.
But they don't....they also use railguns. DEMAND WHAT IS RIGHTFULLY YOURS SIR! RECLAIM THE RAILGUN FOR THE GALLENTE EMP- I MEAN FEDERATION I'd rather get that Assault Carbine(Gallente SMG) ;)
I think I would as well.
God knows I'd love a compact Automatic Submachinelaser
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Immortal John Ripper
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Posted - 2014.11.28 03:35:00 -
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I just want my taco launcher and maybe some sort of weapon that stuns enemies so I can run up to them and kill them execution style.
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General John Ripper
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Posted - 2014.11.28 03:35:00 -
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I just want my taco launcher and maybe some sort of weapon that stuns enemies so I can run up to them and kill them execution style.
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Foehammerr
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
122
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Posted - 2014.11.28 04:24:00 -
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Meeko Fent wrote:True Adamance wrote:But they don't....they also use railguns. DEMAND WHAT IS RIGHTFULLY YOURS SIR!
RECLAIM THE RAILGUN FOR THE GALLENTE EMP- I MEAN FEDERATION Dude, seriously? Then I want a Caldari Blaster Shotgun. Caldari use Blasters for their brawling work. Let me have my toys.
> Caldari
> Brawling
> ever
Lol wut.
But you are correct. Squids can use Blasters as well. The difference between the two is Gallente use drones and the squids use missiles
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DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency
6111
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Posted - 2014.11.28 04:32:00 -
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Foehammerr wrote:Meeko Fent wrote:True Adamance wrote:But they don't....they also use railguns. DEMAND WHAT IS RIGHTFULLY YOURS SIR!
RECLAIM THE RAILGUN FOR THE GALLENTE EMP- I MEAN FEDERATION Dude, seriously? Then I want a Caldari Blaster Shotgun. Caldari use Blasters for their brawling work. Let me have my toys. > Caldari > Brawling > ever Lol wut. But you are correct. Squids can use Blasters as well. The difference between the two is Gallente use drones and the squids use missiles
Lore wise the most used weapons in the universe are projectile based. So actually everyone should be running around with CR type weapons.
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