How much does a fully fit dropsuit cost? You can make cheap suits work, you CANT make cheap ships work against anything but no or bad AV. It basically HAS to be fully kitted, or you'll just lose to math when the AV shows up. Do you deploy dropsuits with RDVs? Can dropsuits be destroyed before they deploy? Can they be destroyed by the RDV as they deploy? Can RDVs randomly destroy them throughout the match? Do dropsuits get knocked into walls and explode by the weapons that do the most damage to them? Ever lose your dropsuit to a null cannon (orbit, do it). Whens the last time you lost your dropsuit because you had to pull some craxy maneuver to drop out of sight, miscalculated by the tiniest little bit, gently bumped the ground and went up in flames?

KDR is a worthless metric, particularly when we spend VASTLY more ISK on average. And of course, when infantry goes 45/2, its nothing to see, but if an ADS goes 25/1, the sky is falling

Within four matches of unlocking the ADV Swarm Launcher I killed two dropships, three LAV, and a Soma with four basic damage mods on a Caldari Assault.

I fail to see the problem.

You don't see a problem that a person took out 6 vehicles in four matches single-handedly using advanced gear?

Of course you don't.

You don't see a problem that a person took out 6 vehicles in four matches single-handedly using advanced gear?

Of course you don't.

I love how when its something that affects DS and ADS its a problem...... but if it were HAV then it would be fair game...

You act as if current Swarms aren't instant death to HAVs as well. I can solo a Complex fit Gunnlogi with 3 turrets using just a Caldari Assault A/1 and a Wyrkomi Swarm Launcher.

It is a bit of nuisance not having it.

It's not that big of a deal either seeing as most kills are direct shots anyways, but I'd really like to see CCP's justification behind it.

"Hey, is the Forge Gun OP against infantry right now?"

"Why, no. No it is not. In fact, ever since we nerfed the splash damage and radius a few patches back we've had almost no complaints. Although the community has recently been on fire about issues regarding Scouts and HMG Sentinels maybe we should put more focus into these issues."

"I agree. Removing the Forge Gun splash damage completely it is!"

"But that's not even a prob-"

"Well I'm going to get some coffee. Want some?"

"But Forge Gun splash isn't even an iss-"

"No coffee? Alright then, see ya later!"

"But..."

I lol'd. Havent played in a few months ... did they really completely remove splash damage from the forge gun?

Haha.

Well first, let's look at the numbers:

-2 DSs
-3 LAVs
-1 Militia HAV

She said that these kills were obtained over the span of 4 matches, which means that every match she killed about 1 DS and 1 LAV. That's nothing special, and actually pathetic for a dedicated AVer (unless that's the only vehicles fielded).

That in mind, I have no doubt that the Militia HAV was piloted by someone incompetent. Even if it wasn't, that is a MLT fit being pit against an ADV weapon with 4 Damage Amplifiers. Even if they were both of equal skill (which I doubt, as most players in MLT gear aren't).

I'm not surprised about the Dropships, as most of them are either poorly flown, poorly fitted, or used as throwaways (usually it's a mix of all 3). Not even going to waste keystrokes on the LAVs.

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The only problem I see is your lack of intelligence and apparent inability to interpret data. Which is sad, because I could've sworn that they taught those skills in Grammar School.

Just playing on my vehicle alt yesterday, some guy is swarming my grimsnes off an elevated position, he hits me with 3 swarms, which I easily tank and rep back in under ~10 seconds.

We ran away pretty quickly of course and decided to come back after repping and kill him.

So we turn around, come back, and shoot him 3 times, and he was dead.

So lets analyze this fight and see what is actually OP.

1. He shoots me with full load from his swarm launcher. I am at no time in danger of dying because I can both tank through all his damage or just run away and escape all but the first volley.

2. We rep all the damage back in about 10 seconds, and decide to come back and kill him.

3. We come back and kill him, without any sort of danger to ourselves.

You act as if True is either not a tanker or is a bad tanker.

Neither of these things is actually, well, true, of course. IIRC, right now he's not running tanks because a Gunloggi beats a Madrugar at 99% of HAV stuffs.