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[Veteran_Community]
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Posted - 2012.05.04 11:55:00 -
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Dear DUST 514 Beta Testers
Recently, there has been a spate of instances where individuals participating in the DUST 514 Closed Beta have breached their NDA. We would like to take this opportunity to remind everyone that as part of the DUST 514 Closed Beta, accepting and adhering to the NDA is a legally binding requirement that all DUST 514 Closed Beta participants have agreed to.
We understand and appreciate your enthusiasm for DUST 514. After all, it isnGÇÖt every day that one has the opportunity to participate in a ground breaking event that bridges two gaming platforms to create a new MMO genre. However, it is equally important that everyone follow the terms and conditions of the NDA so that we may protect the integrity of the DUST 514 Closed Beta testing phase. If you are not familiar with or do not recall the NDA, hereGÇÖs the link to the on-line location of the NDA.
Going forward, we will continue to enforce the NDA to its fullest measure and any Closed Beta participants found in breach of the NDA will receive a permanent ban on their DUST 514 account(s), without exceptions. We realize and value the time and efforts from all of you participating in the DUST 514 Closed Beta to make DUST 514 a great MMO experience to the world and we wish to see all of you continue to contribute in this regard. Thank you.
The DUST 514 Development Team |
[Veteran_Average Tjo]
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Posted - 2012.05.22 00:31:00 -
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Although I appreciate lawyer-speak as much as the next guy, you might consider producing a very short, human-readable version.
NON-OFFICIAL DRAFT FOR RECREATIONAL PURPOSES ONLY:
* The first rule of Fight Club is don't talk about Fight Club. Not even on Twitter.
* Provide feedback. This isn't a free game. The price you pay for entrance is in frequent, honest, detailed feedback.
* DUST514 is provided as-is. CCP want's feedback, but is under no obligation to fix anything that's broken.
* You don't own your account or the data in it. When the Beta is closed, your characters, your ISK, your AUR all go *poof*.
*Wil Wheaton says "Dont be a douche." If you are a douche, CCP can ban you "forever," meaning you won't be able to play the real DUST514 either.
* If DUST514 gives you seizures or burns down your house or causes aliens to enslave humanity, CCP may give you up to $50. Or not.
~ Tjo
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[Veteran_Namhaid]
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Posted - 2012.05.23 02:25:00 -
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Actually, Tjo... our chars DON'T go poof :) at ff, when asked, CCP told us that we get to keep our characters, however it was unlikely that we would get any of the items/isk/sp that we had accrued during our testing time.
..... but, it was ALSO announced that they would "try to give us something to make up for that fact" |
[Veteran_Senkiri Mitsuho]
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Posted - 2012.05.23 02:47:00 -
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Really? Cause I heard: "You will keep your SP, ISK, etc" in that presentation... (yeah, I was there). I'm sure that means they'll do something like a player wipe a week, maybe two, before "open beta" comes around (so that we don't have THAT much of a head start over everyone else), but nonetheless... Some quantifiable amount of our acquired skills, points, monies, etc... will "carry over" to the live version. |
[Veteran_Ogir Ogir]
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Posted - 2012.05.29 15:04:00 -
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I didn't read it anywhere, so I ask:
Are we allowed to say that we participate in the closed beta and tell about a great experience we had?
While I'm not sure about the first part, the second part, as long as it only contains infos that we have already seen (and we saw so much from the game already) shouldn't be a problem. |
[Veteran_Average Tjo]
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Posted - 2012.05.29 16:29:00 -
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What staff - even Hilmar - says in a live event and what the lawyers write into the license are two different, and frankly unrelated, things. One is the fantasy realm of PR and the other is real.
CCP has already hinted at character resets during the Beta period, and you'll notice there's very clear language in the Manual for how AUR purchases are re-spawned during these resets (further implying that resets are planned and may, in fact, happen). It's likely that CCP will let us retain our character names, and perhaps some sort of head start on later players, but they haven't put that in writing.
Where's The Mittani when you need him? |
[Veteran_Maran Quinto]
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Posted - 2012.05.30 14:12:00 -
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I sure hope they reset everyone before launch.
Would not be very fair if the betatesters got a free head start.
CCP didnt do that in EvE beta, nor should they do it here. |
[Veteran_UltraMind Regenersis]
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Posted - 2012.05.31 17:28:00 -
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I am fairly certain that it has been stated that any AUR that are wiped will be refunded after each wipe, and this will include spent AUR.
Otherwise it would be a real good scam to get people to buy AUR and then delete all their gear to get them to buy more.....and CCP are not that s****y |
[Veteran_Seth Willym]
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Posted - 2012.05.31 17:54:00 -
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I lost 2 characters I had when I first started the beta, but was unable to login and play due to scheduling issues for a month and a half. How would I go about finding out if that was caused by suspected breach of the NDA? I've only gone so far as to put a smiley face in response and say "It's awesome". Are those considered breaches? IF not then I guess my characters were wiped during a system wide reset that I was unaware of.
  I have no idea. |
[Veteran_MAGE Warrior]
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Posted - 2012.06.08 11:40:00 -
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Average Tjo wrote:Although I appreciate lawyer-speak as much as the next guy, you might consider producing a very short, human-readable version.
NON-OFFICIAL DRAFT FOR RECREATIONAL PURPOSES ONLY:
* The first rule of Fight Club is don't talk about Fight Club. Not even on Twitter.
~ Tjo
Reminds me of the rule for a different beta which i cant speak of, there is no beta!!!!
Rule 1 There is no Beta, and there never has been and never will be. |
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[Veteran_Balius Infinity]
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Posted - 2012.06.10 10:18:00 -
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Ogir Ogir wrote:
Are we allowed to say that we participate in the closed beta
That's something I'd like to know as well. I'd think it's safe to say that we're playing; it shows as what you're playing to friends on PSN. |
[Veteran_Darkest Inferno]
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Posted - 2012.06.22 18:38:00 -
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i think someone didnt read the nda thingy.... http://www.twitch.tv/quantictak3down/b/322311601 |
[Veteran_IRobbedAGoon Andilikedit]
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Posted - 2012.06.22 19:37:00 -
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Will the NDA be lifted when the game goes into open beta on the 29th? |
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GM Nythanos
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Posted - 2012.06.27 14:44:00 -
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The NDA will still be in effect. |
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Keresh Qui
Taurus Quantum Technologies
Taurus Quantum Dynamics
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Posted - 2012.06.27 20:33:00 -
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Forums Veteran wrote:I sure hope they reset everyone before launch.
Would not be very fair if the betatesters got a free head start.
CCP didnt do that in EvE beta, nor should they do it here.
Well you will probably be disappointed. Check the reply to comment No. 4 on the below link.
http://blog.us.playstation.com/2012/06/26/dust-514-mercenary-pack-out-today-on-psn-grants-beta-access-thursday/#comments |
XRAY Th3 F3ar3D
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.06.28 18:16:00 -
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Standard Beta rules, if they reset the stats, oh well, everybody else doing betas does. This is a Beta, test the game, report glitches, help develope a better off the shelve product and enjoy your time. |
J Marshall
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.06.28 22:33:00 -
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Yes, our plan is to allow your characters from beta to be carried over to the full game. The items and Aurum from the Mercenary Pack will also carry over to the full game.
Yes. your charecter names carry over but they are reset. All aurum and exclusive bundle items are also reset to your account.
No SP or Isk is carried over. |
J Marshall
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.06.28 22:34:00 -
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GM Nythanos wrote:The NDA will still be in effect.
But its going to be open at that point. Everyone with an open code will hop in play and get to talk about it. |
IISoLiDuZ II SNaKe
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.06.29 01:37:00 -
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J Marshall wrote:GM Nythanos wrote:The NDA will still be in effect. But its going to be open at that point. Everyone with an open code will hop in play and get to talk about it.
Its still not really a open beta , you cant just look in the psn store and download it unless you buy the merc pack. |
Wynn80
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Posted - 2012.07.02 05:58:00 -
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With being able to get in to the beta from the Merc pack and PS Home can we please left the NDA, I would love to start hyping up the game to my Eve and PS3 friends.
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Dark Karamel
Seituoda Taskforce Command
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Posted - 2012.07.02 20:38:00 -
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Is there anywhere we can go to report people? Because I found this footage on youtube. [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKAzJwIYeks&lc[/url]
Someone already asked the person to take down the footage, but he doesn't seem to care since he's apart of Machinima. Assumes he's freaking special for being apart of Machinima... I hate when people like this are able to get into betas. |
TEXKO
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Posted - 2012.07.02 20:41:00 -
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I found a video this person uploaded beta gameplay on YouTube. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pM3AC4iYgeo&feature=youtube_gdata_player |
tribal wyvern
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Posted - 2012.07.03 01:07:00 -
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I'll add this one....... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W90iYvYvnVE&feature=youtube_gdata_player
The guys psn id is even in the video description, take that id and ban his a$$ CCP
I created a thread about naming and shaming but I guess its not a welcome thread, my bad I guess |
Trej Morion
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.07.08 07:27:00 -
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I'm kind of curious what is "too much" to say? I've had a game review site that I am in contact with the owner, ask me to give my feedback, as long as it didn't violate the NDA. So, I'm curious....
A. It's neato, get it!
B. The way vehicles work in teams is an awesome implementation
C. The Balancing between the suit types is great and requires a rounded team
D. Taking down the MCC can be hard on some maps
Would I be wrong to go down to B and C options as a level of detail? or am I stuck at "yes, I have the Beta, it's neat"?
IE- Can I talk in generalized terms about things that have been seen / broadcast already? Giving no details / names?
Dev feedback would be appreciated. |
Knight Of Valor
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.07.09 23:59:00 -
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Saying Dust sucks and not giving a reason should not be considered breaking the NDA... |
Trej Morion
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.07.11 07:31:00 -
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I'm pretty sure that's not what I would say about Dust though |
Gett Coupedd
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.07.12 00:22:00 -
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Hello,
I have a difficult time understanding the legal language necessary in NDA. I would just like to ask, if I can say I'm playing the Dust 514 beta, as long as I don't describe anything in detail?
Thank you. |
Longshot Ravenwood
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.07.12 02:24:00 -
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In the article from IGN put regarding their Exclusive access to the beta...
If we're allowed to use this to expand some of the knowledge & understanding about the current build, skills, etc.. without worrying about breaching nda that'd be awesome for consolidating some of our information. |
Reivax Goy
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.07.12 13:32:00 -
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if you buy the merc pack, when the game release you dont lost your 500k and your 4k aur, but what you win isk, skill point restart, in fack the merc pack is just an acces to beta and some aur and stuff in bonus.
And the beta is close not open, you can read it all time you play on top opf the screen "close beta: testing progress"
I heard some one tell when the game release all beta tester have a sp+¬cial dropsuit, but i dont read anything to proof this so dont take this for a faq but just a possible fake spoiler |
Trej Morion
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.07.12 20:27:00 -
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Longshot Ravenwood wrote:
That's hosted by IGN, it is not CCP's. So, I wouldn't contribute to that at all, for fear of violating my NDA.
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The NDA has very broad language, I'd honestly just like to know where the line in the sand is. Can people know I am a beta tester? Can I give vague answers and responses? Can I tell them a little bit about what is show in trailers, and what the Devs mention in interviews? |
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