DUST Search - My Great Shame + Fitting Advice

Henrietta Unknown wrote:

I'm starting to think that a bolt pistol is a smarter complement to the knives for a Min scout than a CR or SMG. You need to finish off the enemy quickly before they do the same to you (and faster) - BP is good on nonscouts in close quarters and excellent at mid-range for versatility.

I disagree that Gal scouts are easymode scrubs. I agree tanked ones are. eWar lets you see a ton and hide, but it does not guarantee free kills (even on MLT, if you done ****ed up). Especially against tight squads.

Sadly, SG is the best complement, as racial weapons should be. It makes the Calscout's Sniper rifle cry and is on par with the Amarr scout's scrambler rifle and the Min's Nova Knife.

I suggest a mix of damps and ferroscales and sometimes a kincat.
Damps - Amarr scouts and Gallogis
Kincats and Ferroscales - Sentinels

As an alternative to PE's, you could equip a high-tier scanner to pick up the scouts that you would've picked up on passives anyways with PE's. It also tells you if there are damped scouts about, unlike passives. Replace PE's with shields to buffer against HMG's and other armor-based weapons.

And there you go.

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Dreis Shadowweaver T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K 687	Posted - 2014.11.22 19:00:00 - [1] - Quote Welp, I did it. I caved. I gave in. I skilled into the lol scrub EZ mode Gal Scout, after being wrecked by them over and over and over in my Min Scout. I know, I hate myself for it. But hey, if you can't beat them, join them, right? I really want to be competitive in PC, and I've been told repeatedly that whatever a Min Scout can do, a Gal Scout can do 10x better, bar knifing. Anyway, I was hoping to get some fitting advice. Bear in mind though that I only have Gal Scout and Damps to level 3. Here's my ADV fit: ADV CR ADV Knives STD Cloak STD RE 2x STD Armour Plates 1x Enhanced Damp 2x STD Shield Extenders STD Locus That's all I can fit atm, because of the Cloak fitting costs. I also have another fit with 2 Damps, and another with 3, but I don't know what my Profile is, and whether there's any point using the 2nd Damp at this point. But besides that, how do you think my fit is? Is it any good? What would you change? I already went 21/2 with it in a Dom, but later I got wrecked by Proto Gal Scouts Creator of the 'Nova Knifers United' channel Caldari blood, Minmatar heart <3 Dreis - pronounced like 'maize'
LUGMOS YELLOW JESUS EXP FORCE 892	Posted - 2014.11.22 19:05:00 - [2] - Quote Don't fit a cloak until level 4-5, or else you have to epicly gimp your fit. Use something else for now that may be beneficial. And welcome back! o7 Quafe A question doesn't always have an answer, but a problem does. Forum Scavenger Prof. V
Mike Ox Bigger KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 498	Posted - 2014.11.22 19:12:00 - [3] - Quote Dreis Shadowweaver wrote: Anyway, I was hoping to get some fitting advice. Bear in mind though that I only have Gal Scout and Damps to level 3. Here's my No wonder you kept getting ganked by other scouts. Instead of skilling Gal Scout you should have put your dampening to level 5. You're not even a real scout until you get those ewar skills maxed.
sir RAVEN WING Horizons' Edge Proficiency V. 411	Posted - 2014.11.22 19:17:00 - [4] - Quote STD Calscout STD Novas Kincats... MLT Repair tool Needle Armour Regen mod. 3 of these guys swarming you should scare you... unless they're at range Oh and a Kaal RR. AND I BACKED THE F*CK DOWN.
Henrietta Unknown Kirjuun Heiian 504	Posted - 2014.11.22 19:31:00 - [5] - Quote sir RAVEN WING wrote: STD Calscout STD Novas Kincats... MLT Repair tool Needle Armour Regen mod. 3 of these guys swarming you should scare you... unless they're at range Oh and a Kaal RR. Sad when a Calscout does the job better than a Min. Give the Magsex some love.
shaman oga Krullefor Organization 3275	Posted - 2014.11.22 19:38:00 - [6] - Quote Bring dampening to 5 as soon as you can. 1 or 2 complex dampener and 1 or 2 complex kin cat, depending on what you prefer, if they scan you, 2 dampeners, if not 2 kincat. Left side can be used for shield or precision. With 2 complex precision mod, you will scan poor dampened min/amarr scouts, you'll almost nerver scan cal scout. Shields are a good option too, gives you a little pool of fast regen HP (30 HP/s on a gal suit), but you will have an hard time passive scanning other scouts. Light weapon = shotgun Sidearm = i suggest a weapon with a high ROF Equipment: RE + cloak when level 5, what you want before. Situational awareness also known as passive scan.
Dreis Shadowweaver T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K 690	Posted - 2014.11.22 19:40:00 - [7] - Quote shaman oga wrote: Bring dampening to 5 as soon as you can. 1 or 2 complex dampener and 1 or 2 complex kin cat, depending on what you prefer, if they scan you, 2 dampeners, if not 2 kincat. Left side can be used for shield or precision. With 2 complex precision mod, you will scan poor dampened min/amarr scouts, you'll almost nerver scan cal scout. Shields are a good option too, gives you a little pool of fast regen HP (30 HP/s on a gal suit), but you will have an hard time passive scanning other scouts. Light weapon = shotgun Sidearm = i suggest a weapon with a high ROF Equipment: RE + cloak when level 5, what you want before. lol I may have skilled into Gal Scout, but I'm not gonna go full-on tryhard scrub mode by using a Shotgun with it! I'd become the thing I hate the most! Creator of the 'Nova Knifers United' channel Caldari blood, Minmatar heart <3 Dreis - pronounced like 'maize'
shaman oga Krullefor Organization 3276	Posted - 2014.11.22 19:54:00 - [8] - Quote Dreis Shadowweaver wrote: shaman oga wrote: Bring dampening to 5 as soon as you can. 1 or 2 complex dampener and 1 or 2 complex kin cat, depending on what you prefer, if they scan you, 2 dampeners, if not 2 kincat. Left side can be used for shield or precision. With 2 complex precision mod, you will scan poor dampened min/amarr scouts, you'll almost nerver scan cal scout. Shields are a good option too, gives you a little pool of fast regen HP (30 HP/s on a gal suit), but you will have an hard time passive scanning other scouts. Light weapon = shotgun Sidearm = i suggest a weapon with a high ROF Equipment: RE + cloak when level 5, what you want before. lol I may have skilled into Gal Scout, but I'm not gonna go full-on tryhard scrub mode by using a Shotgun with it! I'd become the thing I hate the most! We have a completely different view of what is tryhard scrub mode. Situational awareness also known as passive scan.
Dreis Shadowweaver T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K 690	Posted - 2014.11.22 19:59:00 - [9] - Quote shaman oga wrote: Dreis Shadowweaver wrote: shaman oga wrote: Bring dampening to 5 as soon as you can. 1 or 2 complex dampener and 1 or 2 complex kin cat, depending on what you prefer, if they scan you, 2 dampeners, if not 2 kincat. Left side can be used for shield or precision. With 2 complex precision mod, you will scan poor dampened min/amarr scouts, you'll almost nerver scan cal scout. Shields are a good option too, gives you a little pool of fast regen HP (30 HP/s on a gal suit), but you will have an hard time passive scanning other scouts. Light weapon = shotgun Sidearm = i suggest a weapon with a high ROF Equipment: RE + cloak when level 5, what you want before. lol I may have skilled into Gal Scout, but I'm not gonna go full-on tryhard scrub mode by using a Shotgun with it! I'd become the thing I hate the most! We have a completely different view of what is tryhard scrub mode. Are u a Gal Scout Shotgunner? Creator of the 'Nova Knifers United' channel Caldari blood, Minmatar heart <3 Dreis - pronounced like 'maize'
CharacterNameWasTaken 272	Posted - 2014.11.22 20:01:00 - [10] - Quote I thought you quit. "Stop it the bouncing is making me uncomfortable" - Senji/Crow

Vlad Rostok SAM-MIK 18	Posted - 2014.11.22 20:06:00 - [11] - Quote On a G/1 ADV frame, I typically run in the lows: 1 - Complex Damp 1 - Complex Kin Cat 1 - Complex Ferroscale I find an ADV cloak to be the minimum worthwhile. I've been using the STD cloak on the APEX Serpent fit lately, but find it doesn't really last long enough for my needs. Equipment is usually ADV UL's or ADV RE's depending on the situation. High slots can be whatever I can fit between damage mods and/or precision enhancers. Often times, I have to leave them empty. Nowadays I'm using the Br AR because isn't everybody? My sidearm is usually my trusty BPO Toxin SMG. I am not a "slayer" scout; I tend to run in the background and only go for targets of opportunity. Mostly.
shaman oga Krullefor Organization 3277	Posted - 2014.11.22 20:09:00 - [12] - Quote Dreis Shadowweaver wrote: shaman oga wrote: Dreis Shadowweaver wrote: shaman oga wrote: Bring dampening to 5 as soon as you can. 1 or 2 complex dampener and 1 or 2 complex kin cat, depending on what you prefer, if they scan you, 2 dampeners, if not 2 kincat. Left side can be used for shield or precision. With 2 complex precision mod, you will scan poor dampened min/amarr scouts, you'll almost nerver scan cal scout. Shields are a good option too, gives you a little pool of fast regen HP (30 HP/s on a gal suit), but you will have an hard time passive scanning other scouts. Light weapon = shotgun Sidearm = i suggest a weapon with a high ROF Equipment: RE + cloak when level 5, what you want before. lol I may have skilled into Gal Scout, but I'm not gonna go full-on tryhard scrub mode by using a Shotgun with it! I'd become the thing I hate the most! We have a completely different view of what is tryhard scrub mode. Are u a Gal Scout Shotgunner? Currently my most used fit is a ADV min assault, 3x blue drugs, 2x kincat, 1x damp. I run faster than my gal scout and hit harder, i don't understand why people believe that shotgun is so EZ mode. Knives shot heavies, i've never shotted a heavy with a shotgun. The problem are scout with tiny hitbox, 500HP, running fast with a shotgun, not scout with base HP and shotgun. Situational awareness also known as passive scan.
One Eyed King Land of the BIind 6107	Posted - 2014.11.22 20:16:00 - [13] - Quote You don't need a cloak on a Gal Scout. Once you get Level 3 in Gal Scout, you can beat all passive scans with 2 Complex Damps. You still haven't learned your lesson about damps. You NEED dampening to level 5 regardless of scout type. It is more important than any of the scout racial bonuses. You will have problems until you do this. Thunderbolt. verb and noun. "James thunderbolted in his pants." "I lit a bag of thunderbolt on fire on CCP's doorway"
Eruditus 920 Nemo Malus Felix 861	Posted - 2014.11.22 20:25:00 - [14] - Quote Dreis Shadowweaver wrote: Welp, I did it. I caved. I gave in. I skilled into the lol scrub EZ mode Gal Scout, after being wrecked by them over and over and over in my Min Scout. I know, I hate myself for it. But hey, if you can't beat them, join them, right? I really want to be competitive in PC, and I've been told repeatedly that whatever a Min Scout can do, a Gal Scout can do 10x better, bar knifing. Anyway, I was hoping to get some fitting advice. Bear in mind though that I only have Gal Scout and Damps to level 3. Here's my ADV fit: ADV CR ADV Knives STD Cloak STD RE 2x STD Armour Plates 1x Enhanced Damp 2x STD Shield Extenders STD Locus That's all I can fit atm, because of the Cloak fitting costs. I also have another fit with 2 Damps, and another with 3, but I don't know what my Profile is, and whether there's any point using the 2nd Damp at this point. But besides that, how do you think my fit is? Is it any good? What would you change? I already went 21/2 with it in a Dom, but later I got wrecked by Proto Gal Scouts Welcome! Welcome to the dark side, Dreis my boy. I knew you were smart. I run a SG and SMG on my Gal and she is fun and effective. I skilled into SG's specifically to counter Heavy suits and never regretted it. As far as your fit, I agree you should max out your Ewar (at least dampening) before anything else. If you like knives and are used to them, then stick with them. (But you will come around on the SG idea I bet) Lastly, don't know how you played your Min scout but don't fall into the habit of getting into straight up gun fights with that CR. See you in the burn zone with my SG and stay gold. "Stay gold, Ponyboy..."
Henrietta Unknown Kirjuun Heiian 505	Posted - 2014.11.22 21:03:00 - [15] - Quote I'm starting to think that a bolt pistol is a smarter complement to the knives for a Min scout than a CR or SMG. You need to finish off the enemy quickly before they do the same to you (and faster) - BP is good on nonscouts in close quarters and excellent at mid-range for versatility. I disagree that Gal scouts are easymode scrubs. I agree tanked ones are. eWar lets you see a ton and hide, but it does not guarantee free kills (even on MLT, if you done ****ed up). Especially against tight squads. Sadly, SG is the best complement, as racial weapons should be. It makes the Calscout's Sniper rifle cry and is on par with the Amarr scout's scrambler rifle and the Min's Nova Knife. I suggest a mix of damps and ferroscales and sometimes a kincat. Damps - Amarr scouts and Gallogis Kincats and Ferroscales - Sentinels As an alternative to PE's, you could equip a high-tier scanner to pick up the scouts that you would've picked up on passives anyways with PE's. It also tells you if there are damped scouts about, unlike passives. Replace PE's with shields to buffer against HMG's and other armor-based weapons. And there you go. Give the Magsex some love.
One Eyed King Land of the BIind 6111	Posted - 2014.11.22 21:05:00 - [16] - Quote Henrietta Unknown wrote: I'm starting to think that a bolt pistol is a smarter complement to the knives for a Min scout than a CR or SMG. You need to finish off the enemy quickly before they do the same to you (and faster) - BP is good on nonscouts in close quarters and excellent at mid-range for versatility. I disagree that Gal scouts are easymode scrubs. I agree tanked ones are. eWar lets you see a ton and hide, but it does not guarantee free kills (even on MLT, if you done ****ed up). Especially against tight squads. Sadly, SG is the best complement, as racial weapons should be. It makes the Calscout's Sniper rifle cry and is on par with the Amarr scout's scrambler rifle and the Min's Nova Knife. I suggest a mix of damps and ferroscales and sometimes a kincat. Damps - Amarr scouts and Gallogis Kincats and Ferroscales - Sentinels As an alternative to PE's, you could equip a high-tier scanner to pick up the scouts that you would've picked up on passives anyways with PE's. It also tells you if there are damped scouts about, unlike passives. Replace PE's with shields to buffer against HMG's and other armor-based weapons. And there you go. Breach ScP also works well. Don't have to worry about that charge the BP has. Thunderbolt. verb and noun. "James thunderbolted in his pants." "I lit a bag of thunderbolt on fire on CCP's doorway"
Henrietta Unknown Kirjuun Heiian 506	Posted - 2014.11.22 21:17:00 - [17] - Quote One Eyed King wrote: Breach ScP also works well. Don't have to worry about that charge the BP has. More range and a better armor-based backup after the initial strike with the knives. Or it could just be that I've learned to time the shots. Give the Magsex some love.
Operative 1174 Uuali the unholy legion of darkstar DARKSTAR ARMY 113	Posted - 2014.11.22 21:25:00 - [18] - Quote Dreis Shadowweaver wrote: Welp, I did it. I caved. I gave in. I skilled into the lol scrub EZ mode Gal Scout, after being wrecked by them over and over and over in my Min Scout. I know, I hate myself for it. But hey, if you can't beat them, join them, right? I really want to be competitive in PC, and I've been told repeatedly that whatever a Min Scout can do, a Gal Scout can do 10x better, bar knifing. Anyway, I was hoping to get some fitting advice. Bear in mind though that I only have Gal Scout and Damps to level 3. Here's my ADV fit: ADV CR ADV Knives STD Cloak STD RE 2x STD Armour Plates 1x Enhanced Damp 2x STD Shield Extenders STD Locus That's all I can fit atm, because of the Cloak fitting costs. I also have another fit with 2 Damps, and another with 3, but I don't know what my Profile is, and whether there's any point using the 2nd Damp at this point. But besides that, how do you think my fit is? Is it any good? What would you change? I already went 21/2 with it in a Dom, but later I got wrecked by Proto Gal Scouts Don't worry. Gal scout is awesome if you run it with AR as the only Gal assualt that should have ever existed. You can rise above scrub. I'm better than laser focused; I'm hybrid focused.
Lloyd Orfay SHAKING BABIES FACTION WARFARE ALLIANCE 229	Posted - 2014.11.23 00:41:00 - [19] - Quote Dreis Shadowweaver wrote: Welp, I did it. I caved. I gave in. I skilled into the lol scrub EZ mode Gal Scout, after being wrecked by them over and over and over in my Min Scout. I know, I hate myself for it. But hey, if you can't beat them, join them, right? I really want to be competitive in PC, and I've been told repeatedly that whatever a Min Scout can do, a Gal Scout can do 10x better, bar knifing. Anyway, I was hoping to get some fitting advice. Bear in mind though that I only have Gal Scout and Damps to level 3. Here's my ADV fit: ADV CR ADV Knives STD Cloak STD RE 2x STD Armour Plates 1x Enhanced Damp 2x STD Shield Extenders STD Locus That's all I can fit atm, because of the Cloak fitting costs. I also have another fit with 2 Damps, and another with 3, but I don't know what my Profile is, and whether there's any point using the 2nd Damp at this point. But besides that, how do you think my fit is? Is it any good? What would you change? I already went 21/2 with it in a Dom, but later I got wrecked by Proto Gal Scouts No cloak is actually a bit better unless you have the skill at 4-5 as someone put. Instead of shield extenders i'd put two precision enhancers if so. I'd replace the cloak with uplinks, because as I am an uplink scout, I can tell you tell you that you can use your stealth to ninja in uplinks at good places and get a nice wp bonus for it. I'd also use more pistol sidearms instead. The unnecessary hotfix Delta sidearm change did the same thing other changes broke guns: made them too strong instead of making them more efficient. I use bolt pistol/flay lock and an ion pistol. The ion pistol can obliterate shield tankers, and bolt pistol/ flay lock are for having fun. I hope things go well for you, dreis. Soon scouts may be seeing the nerfs they deserve, so if it's possible you should get a prototype logi suit, or any logi suit that has a ton of low slots at advanced, because those logis can mimick scouts terms of stealth to a pretty good degree. Months of AV and scout abuse, still nothing being done about it.
One Eyed King Land of the BIind 6117	Posted - 2014.11.23 00:56:00 - [20] - Quote Lloyd Orfay wrote: Soon scouts may be seeing the nerfs they deserve, so if it's possible you should get a prototype logi suit, or any logi suit that has a ton of low slots at advanced, because those logis can mimick scouts terms of stealth to a pretty good degree. All suits should be the best at their roles. That should be the goals of balance. If Logis can be better scouts than scouts, than those nerfs are not "deserved." Thunderbolt. verb and noun. "James thunderbolted in his pants." "I lit a bag of thunderbolt on fire on CCP's doorway"

JUDASisMYhomeboy xCosmic Voidx Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 166	Posted - 2014.11.23 00:58:00 - [21] - Quote Run around shooting people in the back. Dat skill yo scouts are lame as hell. Go ahead and be a tryhard. You people make me sick. How about getting some fu**ng gun game instead of being a bunch of btch ass pansies...oh wait thats right..this is dust where exploitation is the name of the game and people can't just play a game and have fun. They have to be trolls because they're so miserable with their own existence. Dude keep your self respect and don't be a fotm b*tch
One Eyed King Land of the BIind 6117	Posted - 2014.11.23 01:07:00 - [22] - Quote JUDASisMYhomeboy wrote: Run around shooting people in the back. Dat skill yo scouts are lame as hell. Go ahead and be a tryhard. You people make me sick. How about getting some fu**ng gun game instead of being a bunch of btch ass pansies...oh wait thats right..this is dust where exploitation is the name of the game and people can't just play a game and have fun. They have to be trolls because they're so miserable with their own existence. Dude keep your self respect and don't be a fotm b*tch As opposed to tanking 1000 + HP with massive DPS weaponry that doesn't even need to be aimed, just pointed in someone's general direction? Yeah, that takes some real skill. Thunderbolt. verb and noun. "James thunderbolted in his pants." "I lit a bag of thunderbolt on fire on CCP's doorway"
JUDASisMYhomeboy xCosmic Voidx Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 166	Posted - 2014.11.23 01:11:00 - [23] - Quote One Eyed King wrote: JUDASisMYhomeboy wrote: Run around shooting people in the back. Dat skill yo scouts are lame as hell. Go ahead and be a tryhard. You people make me sick. How about getting some fu**ng gun game instead of being a bunch of btch ass pansies...oh wait thats right..this is dust where exploitation is the name of the game and people can't just play a game and have fun. They have to be trolls because they're so miserable with their own existence. Dude keep your self respect and don't be a fotm b*tch As opposed to tanking 1000 + HP with massive DPS weaponry that doesn't even need to be aimed, just pointed in someone's general direction? Yeah, that takes some real skill. You must think i run hmg heavy. I don't but honestly does that matter when said heavy has no passive scan and can be easily taken out with an RE? scouts are lame
Zindorak G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 1327	Posted - 2014.11.23 03:09:00 - [24] - Quote BTW Gal Scout isn't easy mode. That title will always belong to the Cal Scout Pokemon master and Tekken Lord Gk0 Scout yay :)
Henrietta Unknown Kirjuun Heiian 518	Posted - 2014.11.23 03:37:00 - [25] - Quote Zindorak wrote: BTW Gal Scout isn't easy mode. That title will always belong to the Cal Scout Well Scrambler Rifle... Give the Magsex some love.


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