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Stupid Blueberry
Hyasyoda Terrestrial Acquisitions Firm
607
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Posted - 2014.11.20 17:37:00 -
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Seriously. Tomorrow would be good for a hotfix.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu.
Haajakin Kalen.
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Dreis Shadowweaver
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
675
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Posted - 2014.11.20 17:41:00 -
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The BAR? Yeah that's OP.
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Taskanoss
Imperial Instinct
18
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Posted - 2014.11.20 17:43:00 -
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Range. Take off 1/3 and we should be good.
I got your back Bro Beans!
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Middas Betancore
Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation
179
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Posted - 2014.11.20 17:44:00 -
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Maybe it's cos I run caldari gear im feeling it worse, but it's brutal
Im sure the weapon usage charts will see many players migrating from all previous rifle forms into breach ar, being that the weapons attributes are probably in line with the rifle standard, perhaps it needs a dispersion tweak
I hate to QQ
But there's just so many, and historicaly in this game it seems if a large amount of players suddenly start using a particular weapon it tends to point to the fact it is over-performing
Trying it on a friends account-maxed out galmando breach ar/plasma cannon I went 25/0 and it felt so easy, even ammar sentinels were no challenge
My thoughts on breach ar
Don't hurt me
Major M.Betancore
Mercenary for hire
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sir RAVEN WING
Horizons' Edge Proficiency V.
356
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Posted - 2014.11.20 17:47:00 -
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Yes, kill the strange long range effectiveness and make it a CQC weapon... then make the RR a long range weapon... I'm sure someone else wants the RR as a long range weapon again These people too!
"There is only one thing I regret, that is only giving one life to my state." - Viktor Revon
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Summa Militum
Hidd3n Dragon
43
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Posted - 2014.11.20 17:48:00 -
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Stupid Blueberry wrote:Seriously. Tomorrow would be good for a hotfix.
Are you gonna suggest killing the Kaalakiota Rail Rifle as well?
I think it is bullshit to suggest getting rid of the kick ass short range weapons while turning a blind eye to the kick ass long range weapons.
I play with the Breach Assault Rifle and in order for me to make something happen with that gun I have to charge up to the enemy and engage primarily in close-quarter-combat. With Rail Rifles you can post up way out of reach of any Assault Rifle and seriously destroy people.
I take serious chances charging up to the enemy team to engage in some CQC. Sometimes I benefit off the chances I take and sometimes I don't. |
Blueprint For Murder
Immortal Guides
366
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Posted - 2014.11.20 17:50:00 -
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I see the same stuff in my kill feed CR/RR/SG of course I don't ambush.
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I-Shayz-I
I----------I
5133
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Posted - 2014.11.20 17:51:00 -
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Breach AR killed the Caldari Scout meta, and and RR meta ALL IN ONE UPDATE
No, leave the breach AR where it is. I'd rather be killed by BrARs all day than caldari scouts and RRs
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Middas Betancore
Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation
180
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Posted - 2014.11.20 17:54:00 -
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Yeah I think my perspective may just be warped as a caldari
If I get hit by a breach ar it should REALLY hurt
I find balance so hard to judge
Rattati usually goes by the numbers...so I guess we'll see
Cal scouts will always be a thing, @lvl 5 it's brutal....but so are the other races
And cal scouts with breach Ar...ewww
Mercenary for hire
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Leadfoot10
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
2227
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Posted - 2014.11.20 18:01:00 -
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FWIW, it's back to the ARR on the Cal Scout for me in all but the closest of quarters. |
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Middas Betancore
Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation
180
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Posted - 2014.11.20 18:04:00 -
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Myron Kundera
The Generals
109
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Posted - 2014.11.20 19:18:00 -
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Stupid Blueberry wrote:Seriously. Tomorrow would be good for a hotfix.
You are stupid blueberry. Breach AR is fine. HMG, Shotgun, ACR and ASCR still outperform the B-AR in CQ, so no, it-¦s not OP. Only shield loving suits feel the B-AR is OP cause it wrecks shields at CQ, which is it-¦s niche, you will get trashed by medium-long range weapons no problem if you engage with a B-AR at their optimal.
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Stupid Blueberry
Hyasyoda Terrestrial Acquisitions Firm
614
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Posted - 2014.11.20 19:47:00 -
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Myron Kundera wrote:Stupid Blueberry wrote:Seriously. Tomorrow would be good for a hotfix. You are stupid blueberry. Breach AR is fine. HMG, Shotgun, ACR and ASCR still outperform the B-AR in CQ, so no, it-¦s not OP. Only shield loving suits feel the B-AR is OP cause it wrecks shields at CQ, which is it-¦s niche, you will get trashed by medium-long range weapons no problem if you engage with a B-AR at their optimal.
HMH - duh Shotgun - duh ACR - no ASCR - no
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Himiko Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
5017
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Posted - 2014.11.20 20:08:00 -
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BAR is fine.
If you want other weapons to be competent then ask for buffs.
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Cavani1EE7
Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance
540
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Posted - 2014.11.20 20:10:00 -
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The only ones who could say it's fine are obviously not shield tankers. That **** blows your shields up in 5 shots.
Take a bow
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Funkmaster Whale
Whale Pod
2503
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Posted - 2014.11.20 20:25:00 -
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Man never thought I'd see the day that people complained the Breach AR was OP
I've gone up against plenty wielding them and never really thought they were OP. Then again, I guess people will always find something to complain about when they die
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Mexxx Dust-Slayer
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
133
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Posted - 2014.11.20 20:39:00 -
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https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2471705#post2471705
The BrAR is a clear outlier in the rifles. |
sir RAVEN WING
Horizons' Edge Proficiency V.
360
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Posted - 2014.11.20 20:59:00 -
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Cavani1EE7 wrote:The only ones who could say it's fine are obviously not shield tankers. That **** blows your shields up in 5 shots. Then take your armor in 4...
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tander09
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
186
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Posted - 2014.11.20 21:03:00 -
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sir RAVEN WING wrote:Cavani1EE7 wrote:The only ones who could say it's fine are obviously not shield tankers. That **** blows your shields up in 5 shots. Then take your armor in 4... yeah it is quite bulls**t when you are an amarr.....
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Myron Kundera
The Generals
111
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Posted - 2014.11.20 21:22:00 -
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Cavani1EE7 wrote:The only ones who could say it's fine are obviously not shield tankers. That **** blows your shields up in 5 shots.
Blowing shields up? working as intended for a high alpha CQ weapon. If you can-¦t handle it, get out of it-¦s optimal range and outdps it with a medium range - long range weapon.
Fixed this for you: "The only ones who could say it's fine are obviously not armor tankers. That **** blows your armor up in 3 shots" (i-¦m talking about the ACR).
So yeah, i guess each player senses each rifle differently according to what his tank is, still, you can-¦t cry OP this and that just cause you got owned by a shield damage base weapon, that has a high alpha, low rof, intended for CQ.
"Greed, the forgotten mental disease"
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Zindorak
G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance
1310
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Posted - 2014.11.20 21:23:00 -
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Then can we atleast get a better AR and BuAR
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Bradric Banewolf
D3ATH CARD RUST415
476
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Posted - 2014.11.20 21:38:00 -
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Will the ScR be going with it? No? Well alright then later with this BS chaps. The breach AR at prof 5 is going to kill you! Why you guys don't understand that? The same goes for any weapon! What's so OP about the breach that isn't with the ScR?
Let the breach have it's year like the rail. It's not OP you need to adjust.
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Mexxx Dust-Slayer
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
134
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Posted - 2014.11.20 22:29:00 -
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Bradric Banewolf wrote:Will the ScR be going with it? No? Well alright then later with this BS chaps. The breach AR at prof 5 is going to kill you! Why you guys don't understand that? The same goes for any weapon! What's so OP about the breach that isn't with the ScR?
Let the breach have it's year like the rail. It's not OP you need to adjust. So you want a cycle of OP weapons?
You don't need prof 5 to rip through shields and armour with the BrAR with 0 handling issues.
The ScrR is only OP against shields, presumably as intended.
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CommanderBolt
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
2535
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Posted - 2014.11.20 23:49:00 -
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Zindorak wrote:Then can we atleast get a better AR and BuAR
Yea man, my Toxin ain't doing the work it once did for me.
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
14909
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Posted - 2014.11.20 23:51:00 -
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tander09 wrote:sir RAVEN WING wrote:Cavani1EE7 wrote:The only ones who could say it's fine are obviously not shield tankers. That **** blows your shields up in 5 shots. Then take your armor in 4... yeah it is quite bulls**t when you are an amarr.....
I can drop a Gallenteans armour in roughly as many shots. Seems fair to me.
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Mexxx Dust-Slayer
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
135
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Posted - 2014.11.21 00:43:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:tander09 wrote:sir RAVEN WING wrote:Cavani1EE7 wrote:The only ones who could say it's fine are obviously not shield tankers. That **** blows your shields up in 5 shots. Then take your armor in 4... yeah it is quite bulls**t when you are an amarr..... I can drop a Gallenteans armour in roughly as many shots. Seems fair to me. because damage mods and higher damage per bullet. ScrR right? |
xavier zor
Boundless Mercenary
306
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Posted - 2014.11.21 01:19:00 -
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I-Shayz-I wrote:Breach AR killed the Caldari Scout meta, and and RR meta ALL IN ONE UPDATE
No, leave the breach AR where it is. I'd rather be killed by BrARs all day than caldari scouts and RRs
I would rather not :( This breach assault rifle will end up in the same boat as the combat rifle....a big nerf. Not to bad but still usable
the rail rifle was fine i have no idea why CCP touched the thing...the kick was a small issue but they should make the kick/shot penalty apply after 1-2 seconds of continous hipfire (rewards accurate hipfire gameplay)
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Lupus Wolf
Minmatar Republic
51
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Posted - 2014.11.21 01:23:00 -
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There's so many because it's the closest thing to the RR minus the range so when it was nerfed, a bunch of RR users switched to it.
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Apothecary Za'ki
Biomass Positive
2034
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Posted - 2014.11.21 01:26:00 -
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I-Shayz-I wrote:Breach AR killed the Caldari Scout meta, and and RR meta ALL IN ONE UPDATE
No, leave the breach AR where it is. I'd rather be killed by BrARs all day than caldari scouts and RRs good, calscout was OP and king of the scouts for far too long.
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Louis Domi
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State
805
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Posted - 2014.11.21 01:46:00 -
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I actually prefer the TAR to the BAR... |
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