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        |  Stupid Blueberry
 Hyasyoda Terrestrial Acquisitions Firm
 
 607
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.11.20 17:37:00 -
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 Seriously. Tomorrow would be good for a hotfix.
 
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        |  Dreis Shadowweaver
 T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
 
 675
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.11.20 17:41:00 -
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 The BAR? Yeah that's OP.
 
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        |  Taskanoss
 Imperial Instinct
 
 18
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.11.20 17:43:00 -
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 Range. Take off 1/3 and we should be good.
 
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        |  Middas Betancore
 Ostrakon Agency
 Gallente Federation
 
 179
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.11.20 17:44:00 -
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 Maybe it's cos I run caldari gear im feeling it worse, but it's brutal
 
 Im sure the weapon usage charts will see many players migrating from all previous rifle forms into breach ar, being that the weapons attributes are probably in line with the rifle standard, perhaps it needs a dispersion tweak
 
 I hate to QQ
 
 But there's just so many, and historicaly in this game it seems if a large amount of players suddenly start using a particular weapon it tends to point to the fact it is over-performing
 
 Trying it on a friends account-maxed out galmando breach ar/plasma cannon
 I went 25/0 and it felt so easy, even ammar sentinels were no challenge
 
 My thoughts on breach ar
 
 Don't hurt me
 
 Major M.Betancore
 
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        |  sir RAVEN WING
 Horizons' Edge
 Proficiency V.
 
 356
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.11.20 17:47:00 -
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 Yes, kill the strange long range effectiveness and make it a CQC weapon...
 then make the RR a long range weapon...
 I'm sure someone else wants the RR as a long range weapon again
 These people too!
 
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        |  Summa Militum
 Hidd3n Dragon
 
 43
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.11.20 17:48:00 -
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 Stupid Blueberry wrote:Seriously. Tomorrow would be good for a hotfix. 
 Are you gonna suggest killing the Kaalakiota Rail Rifle as well?
 
 I think it is bullshit to suggest getting rid of the kick ass short range weapons while turning a blind eye to the kick ass long range weapons.
 
 I play with the Breach Assault Rifle and in order for me to make something happen with that gun I have to charge up to the enemy and engage primarily in close-quarter-combat. With Rail Rifles you can post up way out of reach of any Assault Rifle and seriously destroy people.
 
 I take serious chances charging up to the enemy team to engage in some CQC. Sometimes I benefit off the chances I take and sometimes I don't.
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        |  Blueprint For Murder
 Immortal Guides
 
 366
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.11.20 17:50:00 -
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 I see the same stuff in my kill feed CR/RR/SG of course I don't ambush.
 
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        |  I-Shayz-I
 I----------I
 
 5133
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.11.20 17:51:00 -
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 Breach AR killed the Caldari Scout meta, and and RR meta ALL IN ONE UPDATE
 
 No, leave the breach AR where it is. I'd rather be killed by BrARs all day than caldari scouts and RRs
 
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        |  Middas Betancore
 Ostrakon Agency
 Gallente Federation
 
 180
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.11.20 17:54:00 -
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 Yeah I think my perspective may just be warped as a caldari
 
 If I get hit by a breach ar it should REALLY hurt
 
 I find balance so hard to judge
 
 Rattati usually goes by the numbers...so I guess we'll see
 
 Cal scouts will always be a thing, @lvl 5 it's brutal....but so are the other races
 
 And cal scouts with breach Ar...ewww
 
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        |  Leadfoot10
 Molon Labe.
 General Tso's Alliance
 
 2227
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.11.20 18:01:00 -
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 FWIW, it's back to the ARR on the Cal Scout for me in all but the closest of quarters.
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        |  Middas Betancore
 Ostrakon Agency
 Gallente Federation
 
 180
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.11.20 18:04:00 -
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 Trusty SL-4, paired with knives or a faithful bolt pistol, personally...bolt pistol
 
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        |  Myron Kundera
 The Generals
 
 109
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.11.20 19:18:00 -
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 Stupid Blueberry wrote:Seriously. Tomorrow would be good for a hotfix. 
 You are stupid blueberry. Breach AR is fine. HMG, Shotgun, ACR and ASCR still outperform the B-AR in CQ, so no, it-¦s not OP. Only shield loving suits feel the B-AR is OP cause it wrecks shields at CQ, which is it-¦s niche, you will get trashed by medium-long range weapons no problem if you engage with a B-AR at their optimal.
 
 
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        |  Stupid Blueberry
 Hyasyoda Terrestrial Acquisitions Firm
 
 614
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.11.20 19:47:00 -
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 Myron Kundera wrote:Stupid Blueberry wrote:Seriously. Tomorrow would be good for a hotfix. You are stupid blueberry. Breach AR is fine. HMG, Shotgun, ACR and ASCR still outperform the B-AR in CQ, so no, it-¦s not OP. Only shield loving suits feel the B-AR is OP cause it wrecks shields at CQ, which is it-¦s niche, you will get trashed by medium-long range weapons no problem if you engage with a B-AR at their optimal. 
 HMH - duh
 Shotgun - duh
 ACR - no
 ASCR - no
 
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        |  Himiko Kuronaga
 Fatal Absolution
 General Tso's Alliance
 
 5017
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.11.20 20:08:00 -
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 BAR is fine.
 
 If you want other weapons to be competent then ask for buffs.
 
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        |  Cavani1EE7
 Murphys-Law
 General Tso's Alliance
 
 540
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.11.20 20:10:00 -
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 The only ones who could say it's fine are obviously not shield tankers. That **** blows your shields up in 5 shots.
 
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        |  Funkmaster Whale
 Whale Pod
 
 2503
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.11.20 20:25:00 -
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 Man never thought I'd see the day that people complained the Breach AR was OP
  
 I've gone up against plenty wielding them and never really thought they were OP. Then again, I guess people will always find something to complain about when they die
  
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        |  Mexxx Dust-Slayer
 Fatal Absolution
 General Tso's Alliance
 
 133
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.11.20 20:39:00 -
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 https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2471705#post2471705
 
 The BrAR is a clear outlier in the rifles.
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        |  sir RAVEN WING
 Horizons' Edge
 Proficiency V.
 
 360
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.11.20 20:59:00 -
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 Cavani1EE7 wrote:The only ones who could say it's fine are obviously not shield tankers. That **** blows your shields up in 5 shots.  Then take your armor in 4...
 
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        |  tander09
 KILL-EM-QUICK
 RISE of LEGION
 
 186
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.11.20 21:03:00 -
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 sir RAVEN WING wrote:Cavani1EE7 wrote:The only ones who could say it's fine are obviously not shield tankers. That **** blows your shields up in 5 shots.  Then take your armor in 4... yeah it is quite bulls**t when you are an amarr.....
 
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        |  Myron Kundera
 The Generals
 
 111
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.11.20 21:22:00 -
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 Cavani1EE7 wrote:The only ones who could say it's fine are obviously not shield tankers. That **** blows your shields up in 5 shots.  
 Blowing shields up? working as intended for a high alpha CQ weapon. If you can-¦t handle it, get out of it-¦s optimal range and outdps it with a medium range - long range weapon.
 
 Fixed this for you: "The only ones who could say it's fine are obviously not armor tankers. That **** blows your armor up in 3 shots" (i-¦m talking about the ACR).
 
 So yeah, i guess each player senses each rifle differently according to what his tank is, still, you can-¦t cry OP this and that just cause you got owned by a shield damage base weapon, that has a high alpha, low rof, intended for CQ.
 
 
 
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        |  Zindorak
 G0DS AM0NG MEN
 General Tso's Alliance
 
 1310
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.11.20 21:23:00 -
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 Then can we atleast get a better AR and BuAR
  
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        |  Bradric Banewolf
 D3ATH CARD
 RUST415
 
 476
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.11.20 21:38:00 -
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 Will the ScR be going with it? No? Well alright then later with this BS chaps. The breach AR at prof 5 is going to kill you! Why you guys don't understand that? The same goes for any weapon! What's so OP about the breach that isn't with the ScR?
 
 Let the breach have it's year like the rail. It's not OP you need to adjust.
 
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        |  Mexxx Dust-Slayer
 Fatal Absolution
 General Tso's Alliance
 
 134
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.11.20 22:29:00 -
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 Bradric Banewolf wrote:Will the ScR be going with it? No? Well alright then later with this BS chaps. The breach AR at prof 5 is going to kill you! Why you guys don't understand that? The same goes for any weapon! What's so OP about the breach that isn't with the ScR? 
 Let the breach have it's year like the rail. It's not OP you need to adjust.
 So you want a cycle of OP weapons?
 
 You don't need prof 5 to rip through shields and armour with the BrAR with 0 handling issues.
 
 The ScrR is only OP against shields, presumably as intended.
 
 What don't you understand?
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        |  CommanderBolt
 KILL-EM-QUICK
 RISE of LEGION
 
 2535
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.11.20 23:49:00 -
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 Zindorak wrote:Then can we atleast get a better AR and BuAR  
 Yea man, my Toxin ain't doing the work it once did for me.
 
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        |  True Adamance
 Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
 Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
 
 14909
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.11.20 23:51:00 -
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 tander09 wrote:sir RAVEN WING wrote:Cavani1EE7 wrote:The only ones who could say it's fine are obviously not shield tankers. That **** blows your shields up in 5 shots.  Then take your armor in 4... yeah it is quite bulls**t when you are an amarr..... 
 
 I can drop a Gallenteans armour in roughly as many shots. Seems fair to me.
 
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        |  Mexxx Dust-Slayer
 Fatal Absolution
 General Tso's Alliance
 
 135
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.11.21 00:43:00 -
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 True Adamance wrote:tander09 wrote:sir RAVEN WING wrote:Cavani1EE7 wrote:The only ones who could say it's fine are obviously not shield tankers. That **** blows your shields up in 5 shots.  Then take your armor in 4... yeah it is quite bulls**t when you are an amarr..... I can drop a Gallenteans armour in roughly as many shots. Seems fair to me. because damage mods and higher damage per bullet. ScrR right?
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        |  xavier zor
 Boundless Mercenary
 
 306
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.11.21 01:19:00 -
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 I-Shayz-I wrote:Breach AR killed the Caldari Scout meta, and and RR meta ALL IN ONE UPDATE
 No, leave the breach AR where it is. I'd rather be killed by BrARs all day than caldari scouts and RRs
 
 I would rather not :(
 This breach assault rifle will end up in the same boat as the combat rifle....a big nerf. Not to bad but still usable
 
 the rail rifle was fine i have no idea why CCP touched the thing...the kick was a small issue but they should make the kick/shot penalty apply after 1-2 seconds of continous hipfire (rewards accurate hipfire gameplay)
 
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        |  Lupus Wolf
 Minmatar Republic
 
 51
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.11.21 01:23:00 -
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 There's so many because it's the closest thing to the RR minus the range so when it was nerfed, a bunch of RR users switched to it.
 
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        |  Apothecary Za'ki
 Biomass Positive
 
 2034
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.11.21 01:26:00 -
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 I-Shayz-I wrote:Breach AR killed the Caldari Scout meta, and and RR meta ALL IN ONE UPDATE
 No, leave the breach AR where it is. I'd rather be killed by BrARs all day than caldari scouts and RRs
 good, calscout was OP and king of the scouts for far too long.
 
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        |  Louis Domi
 Ikomari-Onu Enforcement
 Caldari State
 
 805
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.11.21 01:46:00 -
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 I actually prefer the TAR to the BAR...
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