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Bax Zanith
Sinfonia1898
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Posted - 2014.11.19 18:29:00 -
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Sclompton Face-Smasher wrote:Bax Zanith wrote:Sclompton Face-Smasher wrote:Bax Zanith wrote:CLONE117 wrote:protostomping is a verygood reason we have so many heavies now. the cows r tired of getting butchered.  It doesn't matter what the cows think, the cows are only a food source. The only point of a cow's life is to be slaughtered. try as they might, a thicker hide won't save them from their fate. Word. But what about a bull though?  The bulls are slaughtered all the same, the only difference is that they push around the other cows first. What about a dragon? 
*face palm*
Their isn't a dragon in this metaphor, unless you change protostompers from "butcher" to "dragon" witch really doesn't make to much sense.
"Your either the cow or the dragon." That really doesn't have the same implication as "your either the cow or the butcher."
"You're either the cow or the butcher."
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Summa Militum
Hidd3n Dragon
42
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Posted - 2014.11.19 18:30:00 -
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If the problem is with squads of Protos running around and slaughtering people then you need to address the squads and not try to limit the individual.
I only play Public Matches and I have never played with a squad (I go solo all the way). I think it is highly unfair to limit what I am able to do in this game because you get teamed up on by organized squads.
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Kensai Dragon
DUST University
Ivy League
87
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Posted - 2014.11.19 18:32:00 -
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To account for varying EQ / Module slots, meta should be adjusted to suit class. Scouts and heavies would otherwise be at opposite sides of the advantage table.
If / when I get a few moments free I'll see about throwing some numbers on a spreadsheet. |
Sclompton Face-Smasher
uptown456
150
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Posted - 2014.11.19 18:34:00 -
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Bax Zanith wrote:Sclompton Face-Smasher wrote:What about a dragon? *face palm* Their isn't a dragon in this metaphor, unless you change protostompers from "butcher" to "dragon" witch really doesn't make to much sense. "Your either the cow or the dragon." That really doesn't have the same implication as "your either the cow or the butcher."
But I want wings with my horns!! and to configure your metaphor; "your either the dragon or the slayer" which bolds well with the majority of dusters 
Playstyle: Scout~Passionate In-bred Sniper~Support~Enemy finder
Weapon: Pro SG~SR~SMG~NK~ScR
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Bax Zanith
Sinfonia1898
225
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Posted - 2014.11.19 18:39:00 -
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Sclompton Face-Smasher wrote:Bax Zanith wrote:Sclompton Face-Smasher wrote:What about a dragon? *face palm* Their isn't a dragon in this metaphor, unless you change protostompers from "butcher" to "dragon" witch really doesn't make to much sense. "Your either the cow or the dragon." That really doesn't have the same implication as "your either the cow or the butcher." But I want wings with my horns!! and to configure your metaphor; "your either the dragon or the slayer" which bolds well with the majority of dusters
But then that would imply there's such a thing as heros.
And we all know what happens to people who try to leave the red line.
"You're either the cow or the butcher."
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Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries
3455
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Posted - 2014.11.19 18:59:00 -
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Proto has little to do with the stomping......it is the talent + squads - stupid bluedots.
You can use a $20K heavy suit and wreck all proto gear in any class. You can use a beefed up adv suit in any class and compete with proto suits. It isn't god mode (maybe in closed beta but not now).
> Check RND out here
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Kensai Dragon
DUST University
Ivy League
88
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Posted - 2014.11.19 19:14:00 -
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Ydubbs81 RND wrote:Proto has little to do with the stomping......it is the talent + squads - stupid bluedots.
You can use a $20K heavy suit and wreck all proto gear in any class. You can use a beefed up adv suit in any class and compete with proto suits. It isn't god mode (maybe in closed beta but not now).
Great! Then there should be little to no complaints about limiting the higher tiered gear used in pubs.
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KA24DERT
TeamPlayers
Negative-Feedback
746
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Posted - 2014.11.20 00:48:00 -
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Kensai Dragon wrote:Ydubbs81 RND wrote:Proto has little to do with the stomping......it is the talent + squads - stupid bluedots.
You can use a $20K heavy suit and wreck all proto gear in any class. You can use a beefed up adv suit in any class and compete with proto suits. It isn't god mode (maybe in closed beta but not now). Great! Then there should be little to no complaints about limiting the higher tiered gear used in pubs.
A useless request that doesn't address the issues players are experiencing only muddles the conversation regarding what is actually happening in pub matches.
That's enough grounds to terminate this terrible idea.
Following this logic, It'll be "proto stomping" this month, and "advanced stomping" next month, then "standard stomping", while never addressing the actual issues.
People are bad at this game, and matchmaking should put them up against people within their skill range(most of the time) regardless of what suit they have. |
Kensai Dragon
DUST University
Ivy League
91
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Posted - 2014.11.20 02:38:00 -
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KA24DERT wrote:Kensai Dragon wrote:Ydubbs81 RND wrote:Proto has little to do with the stomping......it is the talent + squads - stupid bluedots.
You can use a $20K heavy suit and wreck all proto gear in any class. You can use a beefed up adv suit in any class and compete with proto suits. It isn't god mode (maybe in closed beta but not now). Great! Then there should be little to no complaints about limiting the higher tiered gear used in pubs. A useless request that doesn't address the issues players are experiencing only muddles the conversation regarding what is actually happening in pub matches. That's enough grounds to terminate this terrible idea. Following this logic, It'll be "proto stomping" this month, and "advanced stomping" next month, then "standard stomping", while never addressing the actual issues. People are bad at this game, and matchmaking should put them up against people within their skill range(most of the time) regardless of what suit they have.
Wrong. Keeping people within a given skill range is nullified by me having vastly superior equipment. Even more so if I start out with superior skill, both SP and 'gun-game'.
Squads should always be encouraged, for the simple reason of strength in numbers. I understand that it can be difficult to find a decent group to squad up with and some people are determined to run solo, but it should definitely be encouraged. Particularly for newer members. Squad OP is part of the original intent of this game.
The 'actual issue' here is that post-academy there really is no place to go to continue growing with this game other than being 'the cow'. |
Niuvo
Vengeance Unbound
RISE of LEGION
1030
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Posted - 2014.11.20 04:16:00 -
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yup this needs to change.
Eliminating proto fits in pubs will help this game A LOT.
I was thinking separating matches from Basic fit, and ADV fit ambush, skirm, and dom. respectively.
bsc vs bsc
adv vs adv
have FW be proto only?? or adv and higher?
That way you fight where you belong |
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