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Hawkin P
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
501
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Posted - 2014.11.16 01:20:00 -
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So I have listened to some of your comments. I have talked with ROFL leadership and we decided scrap PFC as it was. Instead we are going to replace it with the "Last District Rule." The means if you are a legit corp that can field at least 12 of their own players, if someone takes your last district, it will be returned to you. (FARMING ONLY CORPS DON'T QUALIFY)
If you need a district and your corp can field a full 16 man team of corpmates, contact me and I will still get you a district.
This is much easier to manage and there is no reason to take someones last district.
This will be enforced by both ROFL and General TSO's.
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Hakyou Brutor
Capital Acquisitions LLC
1603
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Posted - 2014.11.16 01:42:00 -
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Rules are flawed.
If the corp has one district left as soon as they get their second district they will be "camped," giving them no ability to grow.
Knight Soiaire = my bae
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Atiim
Heaven's Lost Property
13750
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Posted - 2014.11.16 01:46:00 -
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Hawkin P wrote:[...]
The means if you are a legit corp that can field at least 12 of their own players, if someone takes your last district, it will be returned to you. (FARMING ONLY CORPS DON'T QUALIFY)
So now the risk of participating in Planetary Conquest is being removed?
The 1st Matari Commando
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Hawkin P
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
501
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Posted - 2014.11.16 01:57:00 -
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Hakyou Brutor wrote:Rules are flawed.
If the corp has one district left as soon as they get their second district they will be "camped," giving them no ability to grow.
Still better than it is now |
Hawkin P
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
501
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Posted - 2014.11.16 02:01:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Hawkin P wrote:[...]
The means if you are a legit corp that can field at least 12 of their own players, if someone takes your last district, it will be returned to you. (FARMING ONLY CORPS DON'T QUALIFY)
So now the risk of participating in Planetary Conquest is being removed?
No you can lose all your districts but your last one. Everytime you fight you are gambling all the suits you lose on the hope you will win. If you lose your corp is out 10-20mil in suits. |
A-P-P-Baby
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
194
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Posted - 2014.11.16 02:17:00 -
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In opposition to all the negative Nancy's out there just trying to **** on anything they didn't think of, I commend you Hawkin for attempting to make other people's time on dust fun.
They call me "Mr. Vacation"...
I used to be relevant, but I learned to delegate so I could island hop
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Hakyou Brutor
Capital Acquisitions LLC
1603
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Posted - 2014.11.16 02:23:00 -
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Hawkin P wrote:Hakyou Brutor wrote:Rules are flawed.
If the corp has one district left as soon as they get their second district they will be "camped," giving them no ability to grow. The game is flawed this solution is still much better than what we have now. If you have a better suggestion by all means speak up. Confine the "top" corps to a system and let the rest be PFC? Just a thought.
Knight Soiaire = my bae
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Dust User
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
1065
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Posted - 2014.11.16 02:31:00 -
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A-P-P-Baby wrote:In opposition to all the negative Nancy's out there just trying to **** on anything they didn't think of, I commend you Hawkin for attempting to make other people's time on dust fun.
Your lawn chair is getting cold. |
Derrith Erador
Fatal Absolution
3005
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Posted - 2014.11.16 02:45:00 -
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Hakyou Brutor wrote:Hawkin P wrote:Hakyou Brutor wrote:Rules are flawed.
If the corp has one district left as soon as they get their second district they will be "camped," giving them no ability to grow. The game is flawed this solution is still much better than what we have now. If you have a better suggestion by all means speak up. Confine the "top" corps to a system and let the rest be PFC? Just a thought. uhhhhhhh... no?
Let me rephrase that.
Not just no, but HELL NO.
R&B gets more kinky with every album Still rocking ADS
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A-P-P-Baby
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
195
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Posted - 2014.11.16 03:04:00 -
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Dust User wrote:A-P-P-Baby wrote:In opposition to all the negative Nancy's out there just trying to **** on anything they didn't think of, I commend you Hawkin for attempting to make other people's time on dust fun. Your lawn chair is getting cold. I packed away in the shed. Really cold
They call me "Mr. Vacation"...
I used to be relevant, but I learned to delegate so I could island hop
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Hawkin P
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
502
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Posted - 2014.11.16 03:59:00 -
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Hakyou Brutor wrote:Hawkin P wrote:Hakyou Brutor wrote:Rules are flawed.
If the corp has one district left as soon as they get their second district they will be "camped," giving them no ability to grow. The game is flawed this solution is still much better than what we have now. If you have a better suggestion by all means speak up. Confine the "top" corps to a system and let the rest be PFC? Just a thought.
The point is Clone packs are so expensive, no corps should ever have to spend 50mil on a useless clone pack. I mean it's just a waste of ISK you could be spending on quafe and exoctic dancers. |
gustavo acosta
Capital Acquisitions LLC General Tso's Alliance
393
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Posted - 2014.11.16 05:25:00 -
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Hawkin P wrote:Hakyou Brutor wrote:Hawkin P wrote:Hakyou Brutor wrote:Rules are flawed.
If the corp has one district left as soon as they get their second district they will be "camped," giving them no ability to grow. The game is flawed this solution is still much better than what we have now. If you have a better suggestion by all means speak up. Confine the "top" corps to a system and let the rest be PFC? Just a thought. The point is Clone packs are so expensive, no corps should ever have to spend 50mil on a useless clone pack. I mean it's just a waste of ISK you could be spending on quafe and exoctic dancers. If we're being this socialistic to the point of allowing corps. to remain in an environment in which they cannot grow/thrive as a team why not just tax farming districts x amount of isk to donate to smaller/lesser known corps. who want to be in PC...
I mean I'm not against socialism, but to create a pool of well oiled dedicated new players to compete against other corps in PC we can't just spoon feed them half-way we have to spoon feed them all the way, or until there is enough competitiveness in new corps. to actually have competition in PC again.
Why? Because of how PC is played, versus how an idealist would assume it would be played. (i.e. PC being a nice competitive mode in which two corps. vie for control of match with varying playstyles and tactics)In reality it's all about which corp. can slay/spam better than the enemy. In that respect pubs are more attractive than PC.
Other than farming isk, and bragging rights(if that). PC is very unattractive, either the mechanics need to change, or corps. in PC have to make it seem attractive enough for other players to want to play. Just a thought...
Edit:I forgot to include the PC training programs that would have to be put in place to show corps that "this is how the enemy will play and the only way for you to win is to do the exact same thing but slightly better."
Gallente scout, heavy, logi, and assault
Eternal Can I haz ur isk?
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Izlare Lenix
Vengeance Unbound RISE of LEGION
1126
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Posted - 2014.11.16 05:31:00 -
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This idea isn't perfect but at least it is something.
Trying to help more smaller corps get into PC is still better than only the top corps controlling everything.
Gun control is not about guns...it's about control.
The only way to ensure freedom is by having the means to defend it.
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Marlin Kirby
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
503
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Posted - 2014.11.16 07:41:00 -
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A-P-P-Baby wrote:Dust User wrote:A-P-P-Baby wrote:In opposition to all the negative Nancy's out there just trying to **** on anything they didn't think of, I commend you Hawkin for attempting to make other people's time on dust fun. Your lawn chair is getting cold. I packed it away in the shed today. Really cold
You're a wimpy Canadian.
The not Logic Bomb!
lollaserfocusedonPS3
Got to get those pub stomps over hours yo!
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CUSE TOWN333
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
1882
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Posted - 2014.11.16 08:20:00 -
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this seems like a better idea then PFC at this point. its much more easy to enforce this with everyone on the same page. many vets have had there fill of PCs and would like to move on to different games and the PS4. any extra districts i take will be given to new corps. all the vet corps don't really need this many districts. i am in the process of giveing 1 UP there district back because i was not aware it was there last one when i flipped it. i also would like to get back to just training with vet corps and use our new guys at some point. we have all fought long and hard on dust and i see its a time to get more people involved in the PC experience.
KEQ diplomat/ intel /GC officer
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Zombie Supreme
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
172
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Posted - 2014.11.16 08:49:00 -
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gustavo acosta wrote:
If we're being this socialistic to the point of allowing corps. to remain in an environment in which they cannot grow/thrive as a team why not just tax farming districts x amount of isk to donate to smaller/lesser known corps. who want to be in PC...
I mean I'm not against socialism, but to create a pool of well oiled dedicated new players to compete against other corps in PC we can't just spoon feed them half-way we have to spoon feed them all the way, or until there is enough competitiveness in new corps. to actually have competition in PC again.
Why? Because of how PC is played, versus how an idealist would assume it would be played. (i.e. PC being a nice competitive mode in which two corps. vie for control of match with varying playstyles and tactics)In reality it's all about which corp. can slay/spam better than the enemy. In that respect pubs are more attractive than PC.
Other than farming isk, and bragging rights(if that). PC is very unattractive, either the mechanics need to change, or corps. in PC have to make it seem attractive enough for other players to want to play. Just a thought...
Edit:I forgot to include the PC training programs that would have to be put in place to show corps that "this is how the enemy will play and the only way for you to win is to do the exact same thing but slightly better."but I think that's being covered already...
WHY do people feel the need to write a novel? Lets face it if FA, CA, & KEQ wanted to team up and go DNS 2.0 they could. They aren't. They are trying to make this game alive again. We have to work with what we have. Not some fantasy of a perfect game we will never play. I am tired of people full of criticism that offer no other viable solutions.
Molon Labe: Slow and Steady Wins the Race.
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D4GG3R
Fatal Absolution
513
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Posted - 2014.11.16 09:42:00 -
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Zombie Supreme wrote:gustavo acosta wrote:
If we're being this socialistic to the point of allowing corps. to remain in an environment in which they cannot grow/thrive as a team why not just tax farming districts x amount of isk to donate to smaller/lesser known corps. who want to be in PC...
I mean I'm not against socialism, but to create a pool of well oiled dedicated new players to compete against other corps in PC we can't just spoon feed them half-way we have to spoon feed them all the way, or until there is enough competitiveness in new corps. to actually have competition in PC again.
Why? Because of how PC is played, versus how an idealist would assume it would be played. (i.e. PC being a nice competitive mode in which two corps. vie for control of match with varying playstyles and tactics)In reality it's all about which corp. can slay/spam better than the enemy. In that respect pubs are more attractive than PC.
Other than farming isk, and bragging rights(if that). PC is very unattractive, either the mechanics need to change, or corps. in PC have to make it seem attractive enough for other players to want to play. Just a thought...
Edit:I forgot to include the PC training programs that would have to be put in place to show corps that "this is how the enemy will play and the only way for you to win is to do the exact same thing but slightly better."but I think that's being covered already...
WHY do people feel the need to write a novel? Lets face it if FA, CA, & KEQ wanted to team up and go DNS 2.0 they could. They aren't. They are trying to make this game alive again. We have to work with what we have. Not some fantasy of a perfect game we will never play. I am tired of people full of criticism that offer no other viable solutions.
DNS 2.0? Let's call it something cool, like "Operation D4GG3R" \(^_^)/
I'm pretty plain.
I watch anime for the boobs
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gustavo acosta
Capital Acquisitions LLC General Tso's Alliance
393
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Posted - 2014.11.16 21:20:00 -
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Zombie Supreme wrote: WHY do people feel the need to write a novel? Lets face it if FA, CA, & KEQ wanted to team up and go DNS 2.0 they could. They aren't. They are trying to make this game alive again. We have to work with what we have. Not some fantasy of a perfect game we will never play. I am tired of people full of criticism that offer no other viable solutions.
It was nowhere near the length of a novel.
There is no real criticism in what I've written, at least not toward the whole rule of last district, if anything it's a criticism about the PC mechanics. In fact I'm giving viable suggestions to how new/lesser known corps. should be introduced into PC.(you're welcome)
I'm surprised you can write when you obviously can't read.(That short enough for you?)
Gallente scout, heavy, logi, and assault
Eternal Can I haz ur isk?
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Hawkin P
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
504
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Posted - 2014.11.17 04:20:00 -
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gustavo acosta wrote:
It was nowhere near the length of a novel.
There is no real criticism in what I've written, at least not toward the whole rule of last district, if anything it's a criticism about the PC mechanics. In fact I'm giving viable suggestions to how new/lesser known corps. should be introduced into PC.(you're welcome)
That short enough for you?
Yes and a bit less preachy. I mean come on you went into a whole tangent about socialism. |
CUSE TOWN333
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
1897
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Posted - 2014.11.17 05:22:00 -
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situation is going well i have a couple corps im giveing districts to. so there will be some new faces on the starmap popping up. and we ask that bloodline stop attacking these small corps as i give them districts.
KEQ diplomat/ intel /GC officer
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Hawkin P
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
505
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Posted - 2014.11.17 06:33:00 -
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CUSE TOWN333 wrote:situation is going well i have a couple corps im giveing districts to. so there will be some new faces on the starmap popping up. and we ask that bloodline stop attacking these small corps as i give them districts.
I sent a mail to Espeon about it waiting for a response. |
Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries
3452
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Posted - 2014.11.17 06:37:00 -
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If you guys want more activity....remove all alliances where each corp fends for themselves.
> Check RND out here
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Zatara Rought
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
4605
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Posted - 2014.11.17 07:51:00 -
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Ydubbs81 RND wrote:If you guys want more activity....remove all alliances where each corp fends for themselves.
Inevitably people who have good working relationships with others would end up being in alliances even if they weren't in alliances.
See also:
OH/DL/KEQ alliance pre OH leaving the game.
B3RT > PFBHz > TEAM > MHPD > IMPS > FA
They call me ~Princess Zatata~
Skype: Zatara.Rought Twitter: @ZataraRought
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CUSE TOWN333
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
1897
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Posted - 2014.11.17 08:49:00 -
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Zatara Rought wrote:Ydubbs81 RND wrote:If you guys want more activity....remove all alliances where each corp fends for themselves. Inevitably people who have good working relationships with others would end up being in alliances even if they weren't in alliances. See also: OH/DL/KEQ alliance pre OH leaving the game. that was not called a alliance. it was called the circle of trust. but DL was not in my circle or sipher. as long as you puff puff pass you can sit in the sipher.
KEQ diplomat/ intel /GC officer
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Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries
3452
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Posted - 2014.11.17 13:22:00 -
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Zatara Rought wrote:Ydubbs81 RND wrote:If you guys want more activity....remove all alliances where each corp fends for themselves. Inevitably people who have good working relationships with others would end up being in alliances even if they weren't in alliances. See also: OH/DL/KEQ alliance pre OH leaving the game.
True...but opportunity will be there. Some corps may begin to **** each other off and before you know it Concord messages are sent. Not every corp likes every corp in most alliances....unless things have changed, corps tolerate some corps.
Hell, all it could take is one player pissing off the right one in a pub. Or, for an ML player to ring vs FA, etc. I know if RND was active, we'd have friends we wouldn't hit but everyone wouldn't get the same courtesy.
> Check RND out here
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Cavani1EE7
Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance
508
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Posted - 2014.11.17 14:22:00 -
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Ydubbs81 RND wrote:If you guys want more activity....remove all alliances where each corp fends for themselves. /signed
Take a bow
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ER-Bullitt
1650
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Posted - 2014.11.17 15:51:00 -
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Cavani1EE7 wrote:Ydubbs81 RND wrote:If you guys want more activity....remove all alliances where each corp fends for themselves. /signed
Hahahahahaha....
Pretty sure this is exactly what I said to everyone in the EoN donut right after OH joined them and they smashed LoI and took over most of the map. and I got soooo much hate for even mentioning it. I remember hearing this tidbit alot "we didnt create EoN for Dust, we play other games too.. why should we split up so that the other 95% of dust players can participate and have fun in PC? lolnoob, etc etc etc"
Good luck.
"You insulted my boat. No one insults my boat. It no doubt cost more then the entire village you came from." - Roman837
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Marlin Kirby
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
503
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Posted - 2014.11.17 15:55:00 -
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CUSE TOWN333 wrote:Zatara Rought wrote:Ydubbs81 RND wrote:If you guys want more activity....remove all alliances where each corp fends for themselves. Inevitably people who have good working relationships with others would end up being in alliances even if they weren't in alliances. See also: OH/DL/KEQ alliance pre OH leaving the game. that was not called a alliance. it was called the circle of trust. but DL was not in my circle or sipher. as long as you puff puff pass you can sit in the sipher.
Sphere*
The more you know!
The not Logic Bomb!
lollaserfocusedonPS3
Got to get those pub stomps over hours yo!
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Eugene Killmore
Red Star. EoN.
439
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Posted - 2014.11.17 16:49:00 -
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Can I get a district someone? Mail me in game.
EoN. #1 alliance of ALL TIME undefeated in bloc warfare ;)
Forever repping that Red*Star 666 illuminati thug mafia.
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CUSE TOWN333
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
1900
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Posted - 2014.11.17 17:48:00 -
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Marlin Kirby wrote:CUSE TOWN333 wrote:Zatara Rought wrote:Ydubbs81 RND wrote:If you guys want more activity....remove all alliances where each corp fends for themselves. Inevitably people who have good working relationships with others would end up being in alliances even if they weren't in alliances. See also: OH/DL/KEQ alliance pre OH leaving the game. that was not called a alliance. it was called the circle of trust. but DL was not in my circle or sipher. as long as you puff puff pass you can sit in the sipher. Sphere* The more you know! if your from the street its called sipher beotch.
KEQ diplomat/ intel /GC officer
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