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DAAAA BEAST
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Posted - 2014.11.07 23:29:00 -
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with the shotgun scouts running around insta-******* people. They randomly pop up and go *BLOOOP !* , cloaking and running away. You thought you'd see less scouts with the neft to scout's scan. Wrong you only see less knifers and PLC'ers ? Why ? Because who needs skill when you can use aim assist with a high alpha weapon ? The thing that annoys me the most is that they are usually at least 5 of them per team. Usually in dom I go up against 4 heavies 5 Scouts 1 logi and 2 mlt dudes.
I hate shotguns so much that I have deleted all my suits with a SGf on them. I only run it on a ninja hacking scout ( needed to clear an objective before hack ) and feel bad for every kill I get. I try to ignore militia dudes and kill them only if in danger. I don't wan them uninstalling the game because of a broken tactic. I feel bad for every kill I get with it as it is just cheap. And as the saying goes " what goes around comes around". So I use it the least possible.
I don't know how you could balance this gun really. Maybe a rof nerf to make it shoot as fast a mass driver. Now that I really think of it , it really sounds like a good idea.
Anyway people , have fun the way you want !. I can't change how people play. I will say this tho. What is more fun , a challenge that you accomplished or a routine that you easily accomplish.
Now I hope accomplishing the challenge becomes a routine. I hope to see more PLC'ers and Knifers on the field .
o7
Proficiency V Sniper Hunter
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Joel II X
Bacon with a bottle of Quafe
4413
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Posted - 2014.11.07 23:45:00 -
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You know what's ironic?
I started running cloaked shotgun scout just two days before. Lol |
Apothecary Za'ki
Biomass Positive
1681
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Posted - 2014.11.07 23:47:00 -
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DAAAA BEAST wrote:with the shotgun scouts running around insta-******* people. They randomly pop up and go *BLOOOP !* , cloaking and running away. You thought you'd see less scouts with the neft to scout's scan. Wrong you only see less knifers and PLC'ers ? Why ? Because who needs skill when you can use aim assist with a high alpha weapon ? The thing that annoys me the most is that they are usually at least 5 of them per team. Usually in dom I go up against 4 heavies 5 Scouts 1 logi and 2 mlt dudes.
I hate shotguns so much that I have deleted all my suits with a SGf on them. I only run it on a ninja hacking scout ( needed to clear an objective before hack ) and feel bad for every kill I get. I try to ignore militia dudes and kill them only if in danger. I don't wan them uninstalling the game because of a broken tactic. I feel bad for every kill I get with it as it is just cheap. And as the saying goes " what goes around comes around". So I use it the least possible.
I don't know how you could balance this gun really. Maybe a rof nerf to make it shoot as fast a mass driver. Now that I really think of it , it really sounds like a good idea.
Anyway people , have fun the way you want !. I can't change how people play. I will say this tho. What is more fun , a challenge that you accomplished or a routine that you easily accomplish.
Now I hope accomplishing the challenge becomes a routine. I hope to see more PLC'ers and Knifers on the field .
o7 dont worry im sure ccp will adjust the cloak delay.. in the meantime why not run a gal logi (level 5) with 2 focused scanners so you can see the sneeky crutch scrubs
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DAAAA BEAST
BEAST EMPIRE
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Posted - 2014.11.07 23:49:00 -
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@Apothecary Za'ki
Because of cores XD. I have to many dropsuits and need to finish getting my own cloak, and passive armor and shields.
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Apothecary Za'ki
Biomass Positive
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Posted - 2014.11.07 23:49:00 -
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i hope no one mentions the Full auto shotgun which is comming...
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postapo wastelander
Wasteland Desert Rangers
592
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Posted - 2014.11.07 23:50:00 -
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Apothecary Za'ki wrote:DAAAA BEAST wrote:with the shotgun scouts running around insta-******* people. They randomly pop up and go *BLOOOP !* , cloaking and running away. You thought you'd see less scouts with the neft to scout's scan. Wrong you only see less knifers and PLC'ers ? Why ? Because who needs skill when you can use aim assist with a high alpha weapon ? The thing that annoys me the most is that they are usually at least 5 of them per team. Usually in dom I go up against 4 heavies 5 Scouts 1 logi and 2 mlt dudes.
I hate shotguns so much that I have deleted all my suits with a SGf on them. I only run it on a ninja hacking scout ( needed to clear an objective before hack ) and feel bad for every kill I get. I try to ignore militia dudes and kill them only if in danger. I don't wan them uninstalling the game because of a broken tactic. I feel bad for every kill I get with it as it is just cheap. And as the saying goes " what goes around comes around". So I use it the least possible.
I don't know how you could balance this gun really. Maybe a rof nerf to make it shoot as fast a mass driver. Now that I really think of it , it really sounds like a good idea.
Anyway people , have fun the way you want !. I can't change how people play. I will say this tho. What is more fun , a challenge that you accomplished or a routine that you easily accomplish.
Now I hope accomplishing the challenge becomes a routine. I hope to see more PLC'ers and Knifers on the field .
o7 dont worry im sure ccp will adjust the cloak delay.. in the meantime why not run a gal logi (level 5) with 2 focused scanners so you can see the sneeky crutch scrubs
Yup Rattati just sent a word about upcoming nerf with delay, just few hours ago do not worry boyo
"Nanohives, repairs or droplinks, just ask me on field i can tink anything"
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Apothecary Za'ki
Biomass Positive
1684
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Posted - 2014.11.07 23:54:00 -
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DAAAA BEAST wrote:@Apothecary Za'ki
Because of cores XD. I have to many dropsuits and need to finish getting my own cloak, and passive armor and shields.
gal anything + reactive armor + token plate or 2..
but yeah im trying to beast my way through this 750k sp so i can cap my cores just finished armor upgrades, doing shield then biotic then i may get my ewar skills to level 3 each or something.
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Apothecary Za'ki
Biomass Positive
1684
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Posted - 2014.11.07 23:54:00 -
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postapo wastelander wrote:Apothecary Za'ki wrote:DAAAA BEAST wrote:with the shotgun scouts running around insta-******* people. They randomly pop up and go *BLOOOP !* , cloaking and running away. You thought you'd see less scouts with the neft to scout's scan. Wrong you only see less knifers and PLC'ers ? Why ? Because who needs skill when you can use aim assist with a high alpha weapon ? The thing that annoys me the most is that they are usually at least 5 of them per team. Usually in dom I go up against 4 heavies 5 Scouts 1 logi and 2 mlt dudes.
I hate shotguns so much that I have deleted all my suits with a SGf on them. I only run it on a ninja hacking scout ( needed to clear an objective before hack ) and feel bad for every kill I get. I try to ignore militia dudes and kill them only if in danger. I don't wan them uninstalling the game because of a broken tactic. I feel bad for every kill I get with it as it is just cheap. And as the saying goes " what goes around comes around". So I use it the least possible.
I don't know how you could balance this gun really. Maybe a rof nerf to make it shoot as fast a mass driver. Now that I really think of it , it really sounds like a good idea.
Anyway people , have fun the way you want !. I can't change how people play. I will say this tho. What is more fun , a challenge that you accomplished or a routine that you easily accomplish.
Now I hope accomplishing the challenge becomes a routine. I hope to see more PLC'ers and Knifers on the field .
o7 dont worry im sure ccp will adjust the cloak delay.. in the meantime why not run a gal logi (level 5) with 2 focused scanners so you can see the sneeky crutch scrubs Yup Rattati just sent a word about upcoming nerf with delay, just few hours ago do not worry boyo really?! all hail rattatti! our lord and savior!
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DAAAA BEAST
BEAST EMPIRE
219
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Posted - 2014.11.07 23:55:00 -
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@postapo wastelander
Ok boyo :)
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LUGMOS
YELLOW JESUS EXP FORCE
775
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Posted - 2014.11.07 23:55:00 -
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I can one hit kill things right out of the cloak too... With my PLC.
Thoug I think the most frustrating part about cloak/shotgun is that they can pop 3-4 guys with a single clip. I think they should Nerf clip size a bit, maybe same as militia (6) so you can't clear an entire squad solo in one run, it should take a few passes to clear a squad.
Quafe
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So what is DUST? A problem or a question?
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TEBOW BAGGINS
GREATNESS ACHIEVED THRU TROLLING
1320
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Posted - 2014.11.07 23:56:00 -
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+1 for not crying about the breach AR
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AFKing since 2012
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TEBOW BAGGINS
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Posted - 2014.11.07 23:58:00 -
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LUGMOS wrote:I can one hit kill things right out of the cloak too... With my PLC.
Thoug I think the most frustrating part about cloak/shotgun is that they can pop 3-4 guys with a single clip. I think they should Nerf clip size a bit, maybe same as militia (6) so you can't clear an entire squad solo in one run, it should take a few passes to clear a squad.
wow that squad must really suck to get wiped by 1 single scout.. did not one of them have HD TV?
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AFKing since 2012
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Imp Smash
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
325
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Posted - 2014.11.07 23:58:00 -
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DAAAA BEAST wrote:with the shotgun scouts running around insta-******* people. They randomly pop up and go *BLOOOP !* , cloaking and running away. You thought you'd see less scouts with the neft to scout's scan. Wrong you only see less knifers and PLC'ers ? Why ? Because who needs skill when you can use aim assist with a high alpha weapon ? The thing that annoys me the most is that they are usually at least 5 of them per team. Usually in dom I go up against 4 heavies 5 Scouts 1 logi and 2 mlt dudes.
I hate shotguns so much that I have deleted all my suits with a SGf on them. I only run it on a ninja hacking scout ( needed to clear an objective before hack ) and feel bad for every kill I get. I try to ignore militia dudes and kill them only if in danger. I don't wan them uninstalling the game because of a broken tactic. I feel bad for every kill I get with it as it is just cheap. And as the saying goes " what goes around comes around". So I use it the least possible.
I don't know how you could balance this gun really. Maybe a rof nerf to make it shoot as fast a mass driver. Now that I really think of it , it really sounds like a good idea.
Anyway people , have fun the way you want !. I can't change how people play. I will say this tho. What is more fun , a challenge that you accomplished or a routine that you easily accomplish.
Now I hope accomplishing the challenge becomes a routine. I hope to see more PLC'ers and Knifers on the field .
o7
I think you are blaming the wrong thing. It's not the shotgun imo. It's not even the cloak. If a scout sneaks up on you and shotguns them good on them and too bad for you.
But if you see them coming and STILL can't kill them then there is a problem. Currently, you can see a scout coming and often can't shoot them down. That's the problem. |
DAAAA BEAST
BEAST EMPIRE
220
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Posted - 2014.11.07 23:59:00 -
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TEBOW BAGGINS wrote:+1 for not crying about the breach AR Breach ar doesn't have that big of range and is easily countered in CQC.
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DAAAA BEAST
BEAST EMPIRE
220
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Posted - 2014.11.08 00:01:00 -
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Imp Smash wrote:DAAAA BEAST wrote:with the shotgun scouts running around insta-******* people. They randomly pop up and go *BLOOOP !* , cloaking and running away. You thought you'd see less scouts with the neft to scout's scan. Wrong you only see less knifers and PLC'ers ? Why ? Because who needs skill when you can use aim assist with a high alpha weapon ? The thing that annoys me the most is that they are usually at least 5 of them per team. Usually in dom I go up against 4 heavies 5 Scouts 1 logi and 2 mlt dudes.
I hate shotguns so much that I have deleted all my suits with a SGf on them. I only run it on a ninja hacking scout ( needed to clear an objective before hack ) and feel bad for every kill I get. I try to ignore militia dudes and kill them only if in danger. I don't wan them uninstalling the game because of a broken tactic. I feel bad for every kill I get with it as it is just cheap. And as the saying goes " what goes around comes around". So I use it the least possible.
I don't know how you could balance this gun really. Maybe a rof nerf to make it shoot as fast a mass driver. Now that I really think of it , it really sounds like a good idea.
Anyway people , have fun the way you want !. I can't change how people play. I will say this tho. What is more fun , a challenge that you accomplished or a routine that you easily accomplish.
Now I hope accomplishing the challenge becomes a routine. I hope to see more PLC'ers and Knifers on the field .
o7 I think you are blaming the wrong thing. It's not the shotgun imo. It's not even the cloak. If a scout sneaks up on you and shotguns them good on them and too bad for you. But if you see them coming and STILL can't kill them then there is a problem. Currently, you can see a scout coming and often can't shoot them down. That's the problem. I can't see all of them but I see most of them. Mostly I hear them decloak behind me. I try to get as far from them as possible but with the fast rof , I am helpless. If you read my post you would have understood that I am complaining about the SG scout spam. I can't see everybody too.
Proficiency V Sniper Hunter
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Magewarlord
Vengeance Unbound RISE of LEGION
55
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Posted - 2014.11.08 00:04:00 -
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it's a shame really. I feel the same way and it's usually for the noobs. I'd hate for new people to get deterred from continuing to play because this game is already dying so we need new people to be able to come in and have some fun and stick around.
However all online games will have the problem of players abusing mechanics and cheap tactics etc. The reasons vary too. Some like to stoke their ego by having high k/d or stats. Some just get a hard-on by angering other people; gives them a laugh and these type think because it's just a game that it's ok to have sinister and negative intentions (they miss the point). The word "trolling" seems to be attractive to internet "kids".
Camping is one of those things I just can't bring myself to do because I don't want to be one of those cheapskate jerks. Plus it's just not satisfying just sitting there waiting for some poor victim to spawn or walk around the corner; I'm pleased when I out-skill someone for the kill, THAT'S when it gets fun and satisfying.
The bottom line is that any online game (shooters especially) will have people who ruin it for the rest of us. They don't care if people think it's cheap, they don't care if you get pissed off, they don't care if they ruin the game. This is just how (unfortunately) our society is; people looking out only for themselves at the expense of others. |
Eruditus 920
Nemo Malus Felix
748
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Posted - 2014.11.08 00:05:00 -
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DAAAA BEAST wrote:with the shotgun scouts running around insta-******* people. They randomly pop up and go *BLOOOP !* , cloaking and running away. You thought you'd see less scouts with the neft to scout's scan. Wrong you only see less knifers and PLC'ers ? Why ? Because who needs skill when you can use aim assist with a high alpha weapon ? The thing that annoys me the most is that they are usually at least 5 of them per team. Usually in dom I go up against 4 heavies 5 Scouts 1 logi and 2 mlt dudes.
I hate shotguns so much that I have deleted all my suits with a SGf on them. I only run it on a ninja hacking scout ( needed to clear an objective before hack ) and feel bad for every kill I get. I try to ignore militia dudes and kill them only if in danger. I don't wan them uninstalling the game because of a broken tactic. I feel bad for every kill I get with it as it is just cheap. And as the saying goes " what goes around comes around". So I use it the least possible.
I don't know how you could balance this gun really. Maybe a rof nerf to make it shoot as fast a mass driver. Now that I really think of it , it really sounds like a good idea.
Anyway people , have fun the way you want !. I can't change how people play. I will say this tho. What is more fun , a challenge that you accomplished or a routine that you easily accomplish.
Now I hope accomplishing the challenge becomes a routine. I hope to see more PLC'ers and Knifers on the field .
o7
And I hate Heavy suits with HMG's but I never make threads crying about them. Maybe I should since it seems that's how things get done around here.
Sorry to hear you are leaving DUST.
Good luck in your future endeavors and stay gold, Ponyboy.
"Stay gold, Ponyboy..."
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Kallas Hallytyr
Skullbreakers
906
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Posted - 2014.11.08 00:09:00 -
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Shotgun Scouts are the easiest easy mode I can recall.
Alt of Halla Murr. Sentinel.
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DAAAA BEAST
BEAST EMPIRE
221
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Posted - 2014.11.08 00:12:00 -
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@Eruditus 920
I never said I quited DUST ... It is still my favorite game . Just that I am sick of shotgun scouts that is all. I don't cry. I leave thoughts. That's how the dev's know what is going on inside of your head. Don't expect a change to your heavy if you say nothing.
Proficiency V Sniper Hunter
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NextDark Knight
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
565
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Posted - 2014.11.08 00:16:00 -
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Whats funny is cloak delay will make no difference..
Whats going to happen is weapons in the future will give a modifier to profile. This way all the noobs will be able to see shotgunners cause they will be giving off a high profile. Is it far.. no not really cause if you play enough shot gunners don't matter cause you can sense them.
Then this will be a balancing factor... so when a weapon gets popular they will add more profile modifier to the weapon so it becomes less popular.
PS. I added the shotgun to most of my suits now the RR was hit by the magic nerf bat.
Over 60+ Million SP and full proto in all Caldari Suits. No matter how hard CCP tries Dust just won't die on PS3/Xbox.
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BlazeXYZ
G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance
306
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Posted - 2014.11.08 00:26:00 -
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Shotgun scouts is what you call easy mode. Resembles back to the mass driver way back when aim assist wasn't in the game.
A longer delay would be nice. Also I have an idea maybe a stupid one, but here goes. Since it's really easy for scouts to sneak up and insta kill people, how about implementing a sound or noise when approached at a certain distance.
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Stevez Wingyip
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
5
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Posted - 2014.11.08 00:38:00 -
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DAAAA BEAST wrote:with the shotgun scouts running around insta-******* people. They randomly pop up and go *BLOOOP !* , cloaking and running away. You thought you'd see less scouts with the neft to scout's scan. Wrong you only see less knifers and PLC'ers ? Why ? Because who needs skill when you can use aim assist with a high alpha weapon ? The thing that annoys me the most is that they are usually at least 5 of them per team. Usually in dom I go up against 4 heavies 5 Scouts 1 logi and 2 mlt dudes.
I hate shotguns so much that I have deleted all my suits with a SGf on them. I only run it on a ninja hacking scout ( needed to clear an objective before hack ) and feel bad for every kill I get. I try to ignore militia dudes and kill them only if in danger. I don't wan them uninstalling the game because of a broken tactic. I feel bad for every kill I get with it as it is just cheap. And as the saying goes " what goes around comes around". So I use it the least possible.
I don't know how you could balance this gun really. Maybe a rof nerf to make it shoot as fast a mass driver. Now that I really think of it , it really sounds like a good idea.
Anyway people , have fun the way you want !. I can't change how people play. I will say this tho. What is more fun , a challenge that you accomplished or a routine that you easily accomplish.
Now I hope accomplishing the challenge becomes a routine. I hope to see more PLC'ers and Knifers on the field .
o7
And introducing the auto shotgun in the future....
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Mobius Wyvern
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
5393
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Posted - 2014.11.08 00:39:00 -
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The Barbershop is ******* cancer.
I love how we finally had Active Scanners that were worth using and then they bitched and now they're getting nerfed even harder than they were before.
Do Scout and Heavy players buy more AURUM? Should I just stop hoping CCP might someday listen to someone other than Scout and Heavy players?
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PLAYSTTION
GamersForChrist
267
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Posted - 2014.11.08 00:45:00 -
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I pulled out my knives to have a duel with another scout with knives, so he pulls out his shotgun. I wish scouts were still honourable.
Same thing is happening with heavies. In beta they would squat and ADS and let the best heavy win but know when i attempt to do this other heavies strafe like scouts and i can't hit a single shot. This happened when i was in a 1500hp adv gal sentinel and a quafe c-1 with a basic hmg shows up at a distance. I squat and aim like a proper honourable heavy and he strafes all the shots and kills me.
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Vrain Matari
Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic
2299
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Posted - 2014.11.08 00:49:00 -
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Apothecary Za'ki wrote:i hope no one mentions the Full auto shotgun which is comming... I could live with that.....as soon as i get my full auto Flaylok
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TEBOW BAGGINS
GREATNESS ACHIEVED THRU TROLLING
1325
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Posted - 2014.11.08 00:53:00 -
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Magewarlord wrote:it's a shame really. I feel the same way and it's usually for the noobs. I'd hate for new people to get deterred from continuing to play because this game is already dying so we need new people to be able to come in and have some fun and stick around.
However all online games will have the problem of players abusing mechanics and cheap tactics etc. The reasons vary too. Some like to stoke their ego by having high k/d or stats. Some just get a hard-on by angering other people; gives them a laugh and these type think because it's just a game that it's ok to have sinister and negative intentions (they miss the point). The word "trolling" seems to be attractive to internet "kids".
Camping is one of those things I just can't bring myself to do because I don't want to be one of those cheapskate jerks. Plus it's just not satisfying just sitting there waiting for some poor victim to spawn or walk around the corner; I'm pleased when I out-skill someone for the kill, THAT'S when it gets fun and satisfying.
The bottom line is that any online game (shooters especially) will have people who ruin it for the rest of us. They don't care if people think it's cheap, they don't care if you get pissed off, they don't care if they ruin the game. This is just how (unfortunately) our society is; people looking out only for themselves at the expense of others.
the poor victim waiting to spawn has an invisibility crutch that wasn't always there.. this isn't an MMORPG where you click on duel to PVP someone else. the only players experience ruined are carebears who dont belong in a PVP game in the 1rst place.
AKA Zirzo Valcyn
AFKing since 2012
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Fizzer XCIV
Heaven's Lost Property
887
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Posted - 2014.11.08 00:55:00 -
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Shotguns as weapons are fine. Scouts are the issue.
Their passive scan stats need to be brought up to par with other suits. They scould be forced to fit at least 1 Range extender and 1 Precision enhancer if they expect to scan anything but Sentinels.
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Bri Bub
Eternal Beings Dark Taboo
69
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Posted - 2014.11.08 01:03:00 -
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Magewarlord wrote:...Some just get a hard-on by angering other people; gives them a laugh and these type think because it's just a game that it's ok to have sinister and negative intentions (they miss the point). The word "trolling"... I can't help but to keep thinking, "who is it that posts that 'trolling noobs' DUST 514 YouTube series?" I enjoy those vids btw but wonder if the slightest double-standard is being applied by the OP...
Be just and if you can't be just be arbitrary.
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RemingtonBeaver
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
1260
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Posted - 2014.11.08 01:15:00 -
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Give REs the same thrown alert that grenades get.
Make the decloaking noise super loud.
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D4GG3R
494
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Posted - 2014.11.08 01:18:00 -
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On the bright side, assault suits annihilate scouts if you have situational awareness :)
I'm pretty plain.
I watch anime for the boobs
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