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CommanderBolt
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.11.03 17:44:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote: Following the money is the very definition of "mercenary" and I choose to be a merc. Why should I sit still while you demand I be punished for doing so?
So you're admitting to argue against me just so you can exploit a system you know is broken? A mercenary should find ways to get paid in ISK, not high amounts of LOYALTY points. Look at my example from my previous post, this doesn't exclude mercenaries from FW.
I agree that there should be punishment for switching sides. I honestly feel we should scrap the mercenary idea and that you should be semi-locked into your chosen Alliance when fighting FW or suffer penalties if you chose to switch sides. Basically making it so you can do what ever you like but you have real consequences for doing so should you want to switch sides.
That being said its a good thing if FW is the new place to be. Also I hate this notion of 'farmers'. We are all playing the damn game, we are not farming anything so I have issue with that particular little bit. Otherwise I agree, FW should be more meaningful.
The boost of possible LP is a good thing though I think.
"Also I think knives are a good idea, big f**k-off shiny ones"
"Guns for show, Knives for a pro"
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
5151
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Posted - 2014.11.03 17:55:00 -
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Supernus Gigas wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:I hope enough corps stomp and stomp and stomp until all the solo playing derp derpingtons STF out of FW until they group up and learn how to play Dust. I can't imagine why some people prefer to play on their own. Nope, can't think of a single reason. Not. One.
I'd just prefer to have good fights on a consistent basis. Not 4 matches on a Tuesday night from dinner time to the time that I put my kids to bed (normal times for PC battles).
I'm sure that solo players would still play FW even if they were all thrown in as 16 solo players against a team of PC hardened vets that redline them within 2 minutes, but I'd hope they'd get the picture that they need to find a FW channel or a corp to join that will show them how to play as a team.
I wish my avatar was Minmatar.
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Lazer Fo Cused
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
64
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Posted - 2014.11.03 17:58:00 -
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1. Only infantry would benefit from this 1a. Pilots do not have much worthwhile in the FW LP stores 1b. ADS are not in and any vehicles come with unremovable turrets
2. Buy SP, ISK is easy to come by |
Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
4387
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Posted - 2014.11.03 18:02:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote: Following the money is the very definition of "mercenary" and I choose to be a merc. Why should I sit still while you demand I be punished for doing so?
So you're admitting to argue against me just so you can exploit a system you know is broken? A mercenary should find ways to get paid in ISK, not high amounts of LOYALTY points. Look at my example from my previous post, this doesn't exclude mercenaries from FW.
I AM going to getpaid in ISK. As soon as I figure out what suits, modules or weapons pay out the best ISK/LP ratio.
And the system isn't broken. You can buy just as many fully fitted advanced dropsuits from a rank 1 FW win as you can with a mediocre loss payout in a pubmatch... waaaaaaait.
I found what is broken in FACWAR!
The rewards, for loyalty or mere participation, suck.
And bluntly making the experience of playing FW WORSE for any reason benefits no one.
EVE Online is what you get when engineers attempt to create "fun" without consulting someone who comprehends the word.
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JIMvc2
The Wanga Empire Strikes Back
357
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Posted - 2014.11.03 18:26:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:I hope enough corps stomp and stomp and stomp until all the solo playing derp derpingtons STF out of FW until they group up and learn how to play Dust.
**** that. If corps keep stomping then what is the ******* point of red lining the team. I find it ******* boring when I'm just at the red line dieing and I'm like " Does the enemy team not know how to play Dust 514 ?" Its freaking sad how corps just love to red line which it gets to a point that its just boring.
All you stompers all you care is about winning. Pyrex was right you guys don't care about your team you just want to spawn at the MCC call, call your BS and go for the ******* useless kills and win.
Don't even lecture me and tell me that I'm wrong because I know its the truth.
MAG Raven vet 7 times. Favorite weapon F90 and Highest Kills 78 and 23 deaths.
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Dreis Shadowweaver
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
544
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Posted - 2014.11.03 18:28:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:I don't give a crap.
You lose faction for fighting in FW for ANY other faction.
I lost factional rep with amarr after I accepted a CALDARI contract. And the amarr and caldari are supposedly allied.
And punishing people severely for swapping factions undermines the very idea of playing a MERCENARY.
It's all part and parcelof being a merc. So instead of demanding penalties for mercs being mercs, why not push for better rewards for loyalty?
Or does that concep make your imagination hurt too much?
I swear to God people need to start THINKING nefore they start POSTING.
Creator of the 'Nova Knifers United' channel
I've only ever known 1.8...
Caldari blood, Minmatar heart <3
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
5151
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Posted - 2014.11.03 18:34:00 -
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JIMvc2 wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:I hope enough corps stomp and stomp and stomp until all the solo playing derp derpingtons STF out of FW until they group up and learn how to play Dust. **** that. If corps keep stomping then what is the ******* point of red lining the team. I find it ******* boring when I'm just at the red line dieing and I'm like " Does the enemy team not know how to play Dust 514 ?" Its freaking sad how corps just love to red line which it gets to a point that its just boring. All you stompers all you care is about winning. Pyrex was right you guys don't care about your team you just want to spawn at the MCC call, call your BS and go for the ******* useless kills and win. Don't even lecture me and tell me that I'm wrong because I know its the truth.
You couldn't be further from the truth.
I'd rather there be actual teams to fight, not a bunch of solo players that couldn't find their ass with both hands. My hope is that enough corps/teams stomp to the point that the solo players team up to clear the way for actual good fights.
I love a good fight, I especially love a good fight when I know what my blueberries are doing. It's something the vast majority of players haven't experienced. If FW provides constant fights without having to wait 10 minutes between fights I'll only play ambush in pubs when I don't have enough time to play a skirmish (I've grown to hate doms).
I wish my avatar was Minmatar.
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Lorhak Gannarsein
Legio DXIV
4188
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Posted - 2014.11.09 12:19:00 -
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JIMvc2 wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:I hope enough corps stomp and stomp and stomp until all the solo playing derp derpingtons STF out of FW until they group up and learn how to play Dust. **** that. If corps keep stomping then what is the ******* point of red lining the team. I find it ******* boring when I'm just at the red line dieing and I'm like " Does the enemy team not know how to play Dust 514 ?" Its freaking sad how corps just love to red line which it gets to a point that its just boring. All you stompers all you care is about winning. Pyrex was right you guys don't care about your team you just want to spawn at the MCC call, call your BS and go for the ******* useless kills and win. Don't even lecture me and tell me that I'm wrong because I know its the truth. see, this guy is right. (although i think i quoted the wrong thing :/)
carrot beats stick ten times out of ten.
get rid of negative reinforcement, and give me an actual reason to play your faction - instead of a reason to not play the game-mode at all.
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now what?
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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution
8334
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Posted - 2014.11.09 13:01:00 -
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I love getting over 3000 LP for winning a match.
CCP holds the Caldari's hand so this doesn't happen again.
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Apothecary Za'ki
Biomass Positive
1735
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Posted - 2014.11.09 14:36:00 -
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Mike Ox Bigger wrote:I'm about to be level 8 Cal which pays out I think 1700 LP so with three boosters I should be getting +425 x3 for around 1275 additional LP putting me at almost 3000 for victory. Faction boosters are cheap too.
I plan on making a lot of money by buying and selling Assault KRRs. I made a post on a few days ago, it should be quite profitable. watch it get nerfed to all hell and back
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Apothecary Za'ki
Biomass Positive
1737
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Posted - 2014.11.09 14:41:00 -
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dust, unlike eve punishes you for fighting for an ally Amarr-cal or Gal-min. this needs to change to bring more people back to FW
is if you fight for caldari and gain standing then fight for amarr you lose standing with caldari.. this dosnt happen in eve.
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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution
8334
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Posted - 2014.11.09 16:13:00 -
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Apothecary Za'ki wrote:dust, unlike eve punishes you for fighting for an ally Amarr-cal or Gal-min. this needs to change to bring more people back to FW
is if you fight for caldari and gain standing then fight for amarr you lose standing with caldari.. this dosnt happen in eve. What the hell are you talking about?
Go back and read over the FW blog.
CCP holds the Caldari's hand so this doesn't happen again.
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
18890
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Posted - 2014.11.09 16:42:00 -
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Apothecary Za'ki wrote:dust, unlike eve punishes you for fighting for an ally Amarr-cal or Gal-min. this needs to change to bring more people back to FW
is if you fight for caldari and gain standing then fight for amarr you lose standing with caldari.. this dosnt happen in eve.
You are wrong.
You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
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