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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet
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Posted - 2014.11.03 10:45:00 -
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Spectral Clone wrote:True Adamance wrote:CommanderBolt wrote:Just heard about this on the Biomassed podcast, I have not done the math myself but the point was brought up that triple stacking faction boosters in 1.9 could be a serious way to make LP - thus making more isk with the market vendor.
Thoughts?
Personally I say - see how it goes the first few weeks and then go from there.
From the 1.9 dev blog - "All Boosters (including Passive, Active and Faction Boosters) can now be stacked up to three for cumulative effect." CCP fucks dedicated FW players in the ass once more by making FW the farmers paradise it is in EVE Logic, do you have it?
No because clearly making FW more profitable than pubs bringing in more good players on both sides to edge out q-sync stomps is a bad thing.
Because not wanting to run a game mode that adds nothing to your character but a hole that devours ISK both in lost fits and buying faction fits because isk payouts are zero makes you a farmer rather than someone who sees a losing proposition.
Clearly only the roleplayers should do facwar becausse the high-risk never profit model is the superior one.
EVE Online is what you get when engineers attempt to create "fun" without consulting someone who comprehends the word.
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet
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Posted - 2014.11.03 16:41:00 -
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I don't give a crap.
You lose faction for fighting in FW for ANY other faction.
I lost factional rep with amarr after I accepted a CALDARI contract. And the amarr and caldari are supposedly allied.
And punishing people severely for swapping factions undermines the very idea of playing a MERCENARY.
It's all part and parcelof being a merc. So instead of demanding penalties for mercs being mercs, why not push for better rewards for loyalty?
Or does that concep make your imagination hurt too much?
I swear to God people need to start THINKING nefore they start POSTING.
EVE Online is what you get when engineers attempt to create "fun" without consulting someone who comprehends the word.
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet
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Posted - 2014.11.03 17:13:00 -
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Swapping to the winning faction means that the losing side's wait time for battles becomes longer and the winning side has to wait longer. Meanwhile the person who swapped enjoys a steady (rapid) degradation of faction standing so every time the nerds swap out they have to start over.
Plus the default assumption of the game is that you are a mercenary. If you choose to fight exclusively for amarr your reward is more LP to use to buy gear.
The fact that the LP payouts pretty much give you similar buying power to a pubmatch payout isn't the fault of someone switching yeams.
In a hilarious note, I know how to get minmatar and amarr standing to 10 each if you're willing to be a COMPLETE douche for maximum farming power.
Bluntly more participation in facwar needs to be incentivized.
Loyalty isn't incentivized ENOUGH.
But if you wanna be a merc the current rewards mesh up well.
EVE Online is what you get when engineers attempt to create "fun" without consulting someone who comprehends the word.
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet
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Posted - 2014.11.03 18:02:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:
Following the money is the very definition of "mercenary" and I choose to be a merc. Why should I sit still while you demand I be punished for doing so?
So you're admitting to argue against me just so you can exploit a system you know is broken? A mercenary should find ways to get paid in ISK, not high amounts of LOYALTY points. Look at my example from my previous post, this doesn't exclude mercenaries from FW.
I AM going to getpaid in ISK. As soon as I figure out what suits, modules or weapons pay out the best ISK/LP ratio.
And the system isn't broken. You can buy just as many fully fitted advanced dropsuits from a rank 1 FW win as you can with a mediocre loss payout in a pubmatch... waaaaaaait.
I found what is broken in FACWAR!
The rewards, for loyalty or mere participation, suck.
And bluntly making the experience of playing FW WORSE for any reason benefits no one.
EVE Online is what you get when engineers attempt to create "fun" without consulting someone who comprehends the word.
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