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Horizon Limit
Nexus Balusa Horizon
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Posted - 2014.10.19 15:14:00 -
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Side Arm Kills
- Militia Bolt Pistol -- 1010
- Militia Flaylock Pistol -- 912
- Militia Ion Pistol -- 877
- Militia Magsec SMG -- 971
- Militia Nova Knives -- 759
- Militia Scrambler Pistol -- 846
- Militia Submachine Gun -- 1277
That after all bolt pistol is not ultra OP, otherwise it would be number 1 by a large amount of kills.
And that all the sidearms are more or less balanced and deadly in the right hands.
BTW, i agree on a nerf on the alpha damage of the BP, a pistol with the same damage output of sniper rifle is a little bit too much, imho.
Voice of oga....
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CCP Rattati
C C P
C C P Alliance
8909
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Posted - 2014.10.19 15:26:00 -
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That was my conclusion as well.
I am so over being killed by Bolt Pistols, my anger stems most from RR and ScR kills from 10 to 20 meters.
"As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"
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Echo 1991
WarRavens
Capital Punishment.
502
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Posted - 2014.10.19 15:29:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:That was my conclusion as well.
I am so over being killed by Bolt Pistols, my anger stems most from RR and ScR kills from 10 to 20 meters.
That sounds trolley, but in not sure... |
Denchlad 7
Dead Man's Game
774
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Posted - 2014.10.19 15:40:00 -
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Any chance of me winning the Flaylock just went. :(
The Connoisseur of Weapons. 19/19 L5 P1.
66-3 with Dual-Miltia Bolt Pistols. OP? OP.
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Fizzer XCIV
Company of Marcher Lords
Amarr Empire
585
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Posted - 2014.10.19 15:40:00 -
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Echo 1991 wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:That was my conclusion as well.
I am so over being killed by Bolt Pistols, my anger stems most from RR and ScR kills from 10 to 20 meters. That sounds trolley, but in not sure...
Rattati-
The kind of Game Developer that would troll their player base.
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Nocturnal Soul
Primordial Threat
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Posted - 2014.10.19 15:46:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:That was my conclusion as well.
I am so over being killed by Bolt Pistols, my anger stems most from RR and ScR kills from 10 to 20 meters.
Well you can nerf it after the amarr get an smg
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Cyrus Grevare
WarRavens
Capital Punishment.
351
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Posted - 2014.10.19 15:51:00 -
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Better conclusions could be drawn seeing numbers for all tiers, not just militia, only a few hard core mercs looking for the event's prize are going all out on militia - almost equally.
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Cody Sietz
Evzones
Public.Disorder.
4071
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Posted - 2014.10.19 15:57:00 -
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Nocturnal Soul wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:That was my conclusion as well.
I am so over being killed by Bolt Pistols, my anger stems most from RR and ScR kills from 10 to 20 meters. Well you can nerf it after the amarr get an smg
Neither does Gallente...
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
-Arkena Wyrnspire
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NextDark Knight
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
489
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Posted - 2014.10.19 16:00:00 -
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Just saying that Alpha damage from the Bolt pistol is a answer to the damn annoying cloaky scouts.
As a Caldari player i'd hate to have to remove the caldari side arm just to make the community feel better..
Over 50 Million SP and almost full proto in all Caldari Suits. No matter how hard CCP tries Dust just won't die on PS3/4
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Fizzer XCIV
Company of Marcher Lords
Amarr Empire
585
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Posted - 2014.10.19 16:06:00 -
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Cody Sietz wrote:Nocturnal Soul wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:That was my conclusion as well.
I am so over being killed by Bolt Pistols, my anger stems most from RR and ScR kills from 10 to 20 meters. Well you can nerf it after the amarr get an smg Neither does Gallente...
The point he was trying to make is that the Amarr have no close quarters weapons. So naturally, the Amarr-loyal mercs are just going to use what they have in close quarters anyway...
If we had an Amarr SMG, we would have a close quarters weapon...
Also, its not like the Gallente are hurting for gear variety. At all.
Swag-suit4lyfe!
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Spkr4theDead
Red Star.
EoN.
2203
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Posted - 2014.10.19 16:08:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:That was my conclusion as well.
I am so over being killed by Bolt Pistols, my anger stems most from RR and ScR kills from 10 to 20 meters.
These don't look like boosting to you?
I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
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TerranKnight87
Dead Man's Game
RUST415
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Posted - 2014.10.19 16:10:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:That was my conclusion as well.
I am so over being killed by Bolt Pistols, my anger stems most from RR and ScR kills from 10 to 20 meters.
Rattati Ned's to 'git gud'.
This is TechMechMeds tanker.
The revised edition of 'you mad bro' is 'madbecuzbad'
Courtesy of BF4.
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Horizon Limit
Nexus Balusa Horizon
50
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Posted - 2014.10.19 16:11:00 -
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Cyrus Grevare wrote:Better conclusions could be drawn seeing numbers for all tiers, not just militia, only a few hard core mercs looking for the event's prize are going all out on militia - almost equally.
Probably, but consider that MLT damage is the same of STD (except knives afaik) and to kill a lot of people with those weapons you don't need just time, i think they give a good picture of the current situation.
Voice of oga....
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Viktor Hadah Jr
Negative-Impact
Gentlemen's.Club
5500
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Posted - 2014.10.19 16:17:00 -
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NO NO NO
Those numbers say CCP is counting incorrectly. I got 1,300 flaylock kills. i know below who got in the high thousands with other sidearms and these numbers are not even close to what they should be. This is part of the reason i did not try for another sidearm this weekend is because the numbers are completely off.
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poison Diego
Vengeance Unbound
Dark Taboo
467
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Posted - 2014.10.19 16:20:00 -
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I am telling you, I got 1394 kills with the bolt pistol and these numbers are complete bull
is there a contradiction to jealousy?
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if so, KingThunderBolt would know....
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Horizon Limit
Nexus Balusa Horizon
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Posted - 2014.10.19 16:22:00 -
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Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:NO NO NO
Those numbers say CCP is counting incorrectly. I got 1,300 flaylock kills. i know below who got in the high thousands with other sidearms and these numbers are not even close to what they should be. This is part of the reason i did not try for another sidearm this weekend is because the numbers are completely off.
poison Diego wrote:I am telling you, I got 1394 kills with the bolt pistol and these numbers are complete bull
1394 & 1300
Still in line 
Voice of oga....
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poison Diego
Vengeance Unbound
Dark Taboo
467
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Posted - 2014.10.19 16:24:00 -
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also had 1350 kills with the scrambler pistol...
is there a contradiction to jealousy?
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if so, KingThunderBolt would know....
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NextDark Knight
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
489
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Posted - 2014.10.19 17:05:00 -
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People that are saying I got so many with this pistol.. was it a militia variant or different one.
Over 50 Million SP and almost full proto in all Caldari Suits. No matter how hard CCP tries Dust just won't die on PS3/4
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Thumb Green
Raymond James Corp
1606
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Posted - 2014.10.19 17:13:00 -
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Cody Sietz wrote:Nocturnal Soul wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:That was my conclusion as well.
I am so over being killed by Bolt Pistols, my anger stems most from RR and ScR kills from 10 to 20 meters. Well you can nerf it after the amarr get an smg Neither does Gallente...
The AR doubles as the the Gallente SMG.
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Foehammerr
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
87
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Posted - 2014.10.19 17:33:00 -
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Fizzer XCIV wrote:
The point he was trying to make is that the Amarr have no close quarters weapons. So naturally, the Amarr-loyal mercs are just going to use what they have in close quarters anyway...
If we had an Amarr SMG, we would have a close quarters weapon...
It's like people have never heard of the burst scrambler pistol before.
Rangers Lead The Way!
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Cass Caul
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Posted - 2014.10.19 17:39:00 -
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Burst Scrambler is pretty awesome, I mean, The Burst Scrambler Pistol and the Sniper Rifle are the only weapons in the game you need to aim-down-sights to actually use properly
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Cody Sietz
Evzones
Public.Disorder.
4072
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Posted - 2014.10.19 18:01:00 -
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Fizzer XCIV wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:Nocturnal Soul wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:That was my conclusion as well.
I am so over being killed by Bolt Pistols, my anger stems most from RR and ScR kills from 10 to 20 meters. Well you can nerf it after the amarr get an smg Neither does Gallente... The point he was trying to make is that the Amarr have no close quarters weapons. So naturally, the Amarr-loyal mercs are just going to use what they have in close quarters anyway... If we had an Amarr SMG, we would have a close quarters weapon... Also, its not like the Gallente are hurting for gear variety. At all.
Well, since we don't have a log rand weapon does that mean the AR can double for that?
100m+ please.
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
-Arkena Wyrnspire
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Nocturnal Soul
Primordial Threat
4185
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Posted - 2014.10.19 18:12:00 -
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Cody Sietz wrote:Fizzer XCIV wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:Nocturnal Soul wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:That was my conclusion as well.
I am so over being killed by Bolt Pistols, my anger stems most from RR and ScR kills from 10 to 20 meters. Well you can nerf it after the amarr get an smg Neither does Gallente... The point he was trying to make is that the Amarr have no close quarters weapons. So naturally, the Amarr-loyal mercs are just going to use what they have in close quarters anyway... If we had an Amarr SMG, we would have a close quarters weapon... Also, its not like the Gallente are hurting for gear variety. At all. Well, since we don't have a log rand weapon does that mean the AR can double for that? 100m+ please.
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postapo wastelander
Wasteland Desert Rangers
255
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Posted - 2014.10.19 18:15:00 -
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Horizon Limit wrote:Side Arm Kills
- Militia Bolt Pistol -- 1010
- Militia Flaylock Pistol -- 912
- Militia Ion Pistol -- 877
- Militia Magsec SMG -- 971
- Militia Nova Knives -- 759
- Militia Scrambler Pistol -- 846
- Militia Submachine Gun -- 1277
That after all bolt pistol is not ultra OP, otherwise it would be number 1 by a large amount of kills. And that all the sidearms are more or less balanced and deadly in the right hands. BTW, i agree on a nerf on the alpha damage of the BP, a pistol with the same damage output of sniper rifle is a little bit too much, imho.
Its not about how much is weapon used, what makes it OP.
Its about how its performed overal.
Making decisions how it or isnt OP only by amount of players who use it is honestly pure nonsence.
Bullet magnetism, with damage, range and RoF is totaly of scale on this piece.
I know the weapon should be by lore good on range and damage, but what we see on field right now is one/two shoots ridiculousness.
There should be DEFO some tweaks for it, end of story.
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Nocturnal Soul
Primordial Threat
4185
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Posted - 2014.10.19 18:16:00 -
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Foehammerr wrote:Fizzer XCIV wrote:
The point he was trying to make is that the Amarr have no close quarters weapons. So naturally, the Amarr-loyal mercs are just going to use what they have in close quarters anyway...
If we had an Amarr SMG, we would have a close quarters weapon...
It's like people have never heard of the burst scrambler pistol or assault scrambler rifle before.
It's like people don't understand how unreliable the burst scp is and how easily outmatched it is compared to an actual smg of the same tier.
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Kensai Dragon
DUST University
Ivy League
10
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Posted - 2014.10.19 18:21:00 -
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Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:NO NO NO
Those numbers say CCP is counting incorrectly. I got 1,300 flaylock kills. i know below who got in the high thousands with other sidearms and these numbers are not even close to what they should be. This is part of the reason i did not try for another sidearm this weekend is because the numbers are completely off.
Are you sure you got those in a single day? Remember, the naming rights go to the player who gets the most militia grade sidearm kills in a downtime to downtime period. |
Cody Sietz
Evzones
Public.Disorder.
4072
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Posted - 2014.10.19 18:24:00 -
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The PC...really? That suppose to be our log range rifle?
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
-Arkena Wyrnspire
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deezy dabest
IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP
1028
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Posted - 2014.10.19 18:26:00 -
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Foehammerr wrote:Fizzer XCIV wrote:
The point he was trying to make is that the Amarr have no close quarters weapons. So naturally, the Amarr-loyal mercs are just going to use what they have in close quarters anyway...
If we had an Amarr SMG, we would have a close quarters weapon...
It's like people have never heard of the burst scrambler pistol or assault scrambler rifle before.
The AScR is terrible in close quarters. By the time you get done slowly chipping through a heavies armor you are either killed or overheated and committed suicide. Against most scouts in close quarters it would be pretty good if only you were not instantly chopper down by either a SMG, CR, or BP.
The burst ScP is a victim to bad hit detection. Your chances of landing all three shots from the burst on a scout are next to none. Against a heavy if you are good enough to land head shots it can compete there.
If you want the AScR to be a CQC weapon it needs a reduction to dispersion and heat build up and a range reduction to keep it from becoming OP. I would rather see an actual Amarrian CQC weapon than an attempt to make one of our current weapons fit the bill.
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LUGMOS
YELLOW JESUS EXP FORCE
673
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Posted - 2014.10.19 18:27:00 -
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Cody Sietz wrote:The PC...really? That suppose to be our log range rifle?
That's hilarious...
I only got two longish range kills today... But it is definitely not absolutely terrible anymore.
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Viktor Hadah Jr
Negative-Impact
Gentlemen's.Club
5501
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Posted - 2014.10.19 18:30:00 -
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Kensai Dragon wrote:Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:NO NO NO
Those numbers say CCP is counting incorrectly. I got 1,300 flaylock kills. i know below who got in the high thousands with other sidearms and these numbers are not even close to what they should be. This is part of the reason i did not try for another sidearm this weekend is because the numbers are completely off. Are you sure you got those in a single day? Remember, the naming rights go to the player who gets the most militia grade sidearm kills in a downtime to downtime period.
Yes I did it in a single day woke up right after downtime and kept playing till downtime.
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