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Ku Shala
The Generals
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Posted - 2014.10.17 13:53:00 -
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reduce maximum squad size to 3 or 4 players and reduce orbital wp to 3000 (for 3 player squad) or 3800 ( for 4 player squad)
why?
-smaller squads can be split more evenly amongst teams.
-At times where less players are online its more likely that both teams will have squads.
-will stop orbitals from being one sided- 5000 is too hard for small squads to reach and is unfair to high M U solo players
-will make scouts passive scans less effective to the team
the current system is not working when few players are online, playing the same team 4-5 spawn camping matches in a row is not fun for either side ( and really change smart deploy to suicide deploy!) In an Ideal game everyones KDR would be close to 1 thats a balanced match and most fun for all.
-¦a+ó a+ú-Æa+äla+ä (Caldari Specialist)
Caldari Loyalist
*Assault -Logistics-Sentinal-Scout-Commando Allround CK-0
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CUSE TOWN333
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
1771
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Posted - 2014.10.17 13:57:00 -
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no
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Ku Shala
The Generals
973
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Posted - 2014.10.17 14:00:00 -
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very constructive. care to elaborate?
-¦a+ó a+ú-Æa+äla+ä (Caldari Specialist)
Caldari Loyalist
*Assault -Logistics-Sentinal-Scout-Commando Allround CK-0
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CUSE TOWN333
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
1771
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Posted - 2014.10.17 14:28:00 -
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Ku Shala wrote: very constructive. care to elaborate? because instead of hurting people who have friends and enjoy playing with them why don't you just make a squad yourself
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
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Posted - 2014.10.17 14:40:00 -
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Ku Shala wrote: very constructive. care to elaborate? Sure.
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Atiim
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Posted - 2014.10.17 14:44:00 -
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Lower squad sizes means less friends to play with, which serves to detract from the social aspect of this game (one of it's few strengths over other FPSs).
It be much more practical (and beneficial) to simply include matchmaking in 1.9
The 1st Matari Commando
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xAckie
Ghost. Mob
454
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Posted - 2014.10.17 14:49:00 -
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Yes
it was only 6 because it was supposod to be 24 v 24
squad size of 4 makes more sense 16 v 16 - will allow pubs to be more fun / better gameplay/ better balance
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Raptor Princess
ALLOTEC INC
50
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Posted - 2014.10.17 15:42:00 -
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I'm unsure if you're trolling or not? |
Ku Shala
The Generals
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Posted - 2014.10.17 16:22:00 -
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better put I would prefer to see squads of 4 max only because its 16 vs 16 and as it stands if 3 squads try to deploy into one battle type you get the following one stacked team of 12 and a team of 6 with 10 blueberries numbers wise thats a team that is 75% competent vs a team thats 38% competent thats like playing with half a team. for the most part in the match making that is what I see 2 squads vs 1 and part squads/solo. currently I can only bring 6 to the table since we dont have team deploy.
@Atiim 18vs 18 would work too but as it stands the numbers don't make sense
-¦a+ó a+ú-Æa+äla+ä (Caldari Specialist)
Caldari Loyalist
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Ku Shala
The Generals
974
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Posted - 2014.10.17 16:26:00 -
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CUSE TOWN333 wrote:Ku Shala wrote: very constructive. care to elaborate? because instead of hurting people who have friends and enjoy playing with them why don't you just make a squad yourself
again I can only bring six to a battle a squad filled with high sp beta players that gets stuck with 10 BB over and over that hide in the redline suicide or have 0 tactics. I would bring 16 If I could not trying to hurt the game trying to make more even matches
-¦a+ó a+ú-Æa+äla+ä (Caldari Specialist)
Caldari Loyalist
*Assault -Logistics-Sentinal-Scout-Commando Allround CK-0
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Dust User
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
846
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Posted - 2014.10.17 16:40:00 -
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How about we go back to no squads and we can all q-sync through PSN chat like the good ol' days. |
Imp Smash
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
252
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Posted - 2014.10.18 02:14:00 -
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Absolutely not.
We used to have 4 man squads. We all hated 4 man squads. Eventually CCP listened to us and upped the numbers We were all grateful.
You were obviously not here during those days so you know nothing (John Snow)
I understand your point about making games fit into a Squad's numbers exactly. That is entirely your OCD issue.
However, you could just ask that the match numbers fit into multiples of 6 (hello, 18, 24, 30?)
Reducing squad size is completely not required.
So, absolutely not. One of the worst ideas I have ever seen posted. No offense (although yes I realize that this is impolite and that you will probably take offense) but this is actually pretty horrible. |
Bright Cloud
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
436
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Posted - 2014.10.18 03:50:00 -
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We had in the beginning 4 man squads which was annoying as hell cause you could only play with 3 of your mates at a time. Thats why they changed it to 6 in the beta and to be honest it should stay like that.
Bright is the opposite of dark! Who would have thought of that?!
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BIoody 619
D3ATH C4RD
10
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Posted - 2014.10.18 03:58:00 -
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a four man squad I have to say noo just no
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Derpty Derp
Dead Man's Game RUST415
533
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Posted - 2014.10.18 05:06:00 -
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How about 4 man squads for pubs and full teams for factional? Failing that... 8 man squads o.O? |
Dust User
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
850
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Posted - 2014.10.18 06:46:00 -
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Derpty Derp wrote:8 man squads o.O?
Do it CCP. |
Kaughst
Nyain San General Tso's Alliance
719
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Posted - 2014.10.18 13:04:00 -
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I will only vouch for a mode that does not include squads.
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Stefan Stahl
Seituoda Taskforce Command
776
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Posted - 2014.10.18 13:22:00 -
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Just toying around here, but if we can get FW to be a functional game-mode that actually pays for itself then we could restrict the maximum size of squads in pub-matches to 4, while leaving it at 6 or even raising it for every other mode.
This may become entirely unnecessary though if Rattati & Co. manage to implement a matchmaker that draws similarly capable players into a match.
I'd prefer the latter option, honestly. |
Nirwanda Vaughns
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Posted - 2014.10.18 15:18:00 -
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Ku Shala wrote:reduce maximum squad size to 4 players and reduce orbital wp to 3800 why?
-smaller squads can be split more evenly amongst teams. 25% control per team per squad
-At times where less players are online its more likely that both teams will have squads.
-will stop orbitals from being one sided- 5000 is too hard for small squads to reach and is unfair to high M U solo players
-will make scouts passive scans less effective to the team
the current system is not working when few players are online, playing the same team 4-5 spawn camping matches in a row is not fun for either side ( and really change smart deploy to suicide deploy!) In an Ideal game everyones KDR would be close to 1 thats a balanced match and most fun for all.
they used to be 4 man squads until CCP bumped them to 6 and tbh the fact that they didn't alter the team size to 18 baffles me. i'd expect that it'd also be part of the reason matchmaking is iffy too as there will always have to be searching for partial squads as well. its only 2 men a team extra but it'd be nice.
and personally in PC i'm a big believer of running 4man squads still as they're more flexible
Never argue with an idiot. they bring you down to their level and beat you through experience
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PLAYSTTION
GamersForChrist
231
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Posted - 2014.10.19 00:18:00 -
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Ku Shala wrote: very constructive. care to elaborate? Yea, when CCP moved from 4 man squads to 6 man squads at Uprising they thought about everything, and the community wanted it. Also when they changed it from 2500 to 5000wp for orbitals they were sure, as well as the community that it is what the game needed.
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Zindorak
G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance
1122
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Posted - 2014.10.19 00:26:00 -
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hahahahahahahahahahaha
no
Pokemon master and Tekken Lord
Gk0 Scout yay :)
Pls fix SCR CCP
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CommanderBolt
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
2023
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Posted - 2014.10.19 01:48:00 -
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Playing in squads is for nerds anyway.....
/That was sarcasm, I know that can be lost on a lot of you forum folk. (Well not entirely sarcastic but mostly)
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Flint Beastgood III
Carbon 7 Iron Oxide.
600
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Posted - 2014.10.19 07:59:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Lower squad sizes means less friends to play with, which serves to detract from the social aspect of this game (one of it's few strengths over other FPSs).
It be much more practical (and beneficial) to simply include matchmaking in 1.9
Besides, we already had sh*tty 4-man squads and we begged for larger squads, why on earth would we wanna go backwards?
I'd only ever wanna see smaller squads IF we could link them up for team deployment AND had a better comms system.
Yep
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Ku Shala
The Generals
982
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Posted - 2014.10.20 13:51:00 -
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Zindorak wrote:hahahahahahahahahahaha no
Ku Shala wrote:Reduce maximum squad size -4 players or change teams to 18 vs 18
so no to 4 players or 18 vs 18?
-¦a+ó a+ú-Æa+äla+ä (Caldari Specialist)
Caldari Loyalist
*Assault -Logistics-Sentinal-Scout-Commando Allround CK-0
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John Psi
Vacuum Cleaner. LLC Steel Balls Alliance
987
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Posted - 2014.10.20 13:58:00 -
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reduce - NO. 18 vs 18 - YES.
Please support fair play!
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Dreis Shadowweaver
Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State
425
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Posted - 2014.10.20 17:14:00 -
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Ku Shala wrote:reduce maximum squad size to 4 players and reduce orbital wp to 3800 why?
-smaller squads can be split more evenly amongst teams. 25% control per team per squad
-At times where less players are online its more likely that both teams will have squads.
-will stop orbitals from being one sided- 5000 is too hard for small squads to reach and is unfair to high M U solo players
-will make scouts passive scans less effective to the team
the current system is not working when few players are online, playing the same team 4-5 spawn camping matches in a row is not fun for either side ( and really change smart deploy to suicide deploy!) In an Ideal game everyones KDR would be close to 1 thats a balanced match and most fun for all. Sounds good to me.
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