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Hansei Kaizen
The Jackson Five
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Posted - 2014.10.07 17:32:00 -
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I didnt post anything for a while here, but I just bought Destiny and already have the feeling of having wasted my precious money (yes, I am poor as 1st world standards go). I just wanted to give a big wet smooch and heads up to CCPs Dust team, because I just realized what an effin great job they did, in comparison with this over-produced piece of BS. Please guys, dont try "me too" Destiny with Legion and stick with your style! (disclaimer: I play Destiny on a PS3 ...)
1) Optics: Dust looks crisp and tight and makes great use of PS3 graphics. Destiny looks like a bowl of stew (a nicely colored bowl of stew though).
2) Gameplay: Dust has elaborate depth and emergent complexity in its multiplayer focused gameplay. You can play it for years without fully grasping it (as a casual gamer at least). Destiny = Shoot weapon 1, get closer, shoot weapon 2, get closer, melee. Repeat 1 billion times.
3) Story (yes Dust wins on the STORY): Dust takes place in a rich universe you have to figure out by yourself, that is tied in with a great spacegame with a REAL player-made history. Destiny has a rich universe you have to figure out by yourself. There is a Single-Player Campaign with a story, you say? No there isnt. The anti-story is so not there that it swallows the campaign, so that doesnt count.
4) Budget (developer): I dont know what Dust development did cost, but since Bungie claims to have had the highest budget EVAH, I assume it wasnt 500 Mio. I want to travel into a parallel universe, where all that money was spent on Dust/Legion and Eve. I have a dream.
5) Budget (player): Yes, you can sink unlimited money into Dust. But you really dont have to. I paid 40 Gé¼ on Dust, and the second half of this was out of sheer gratitude for the good (and bad) times. I just paid 70 Gé¼ on Destiny and already am sure I wont get my moneys worth. The 10 promised years of expansions will have to be paid additionally. Rip off you say? I absolutely agree!
Who dares to give me more reasons to be pissed at Destiny? Warning, my head might explode.
The answer to your complaint is PvE. Always.
NPE status: (Gò»°Gûí°n+ëGò»n+¦ Gö+GöüGö+
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Soraya Xel
Abandoned Privilege Top Men.
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Posted - 2014.10.07 17:32:00 -
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Um, here, have this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUIvhQPPCRg
CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
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Xocoyol Zaraoul
Superior Genetics
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Posted - 2014.10.07 17:37:00 -
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I personally think they are different enough that we can't really compare very well for "Better."
This is like asking which is a better game, SSX Tricky or Gran Turismo aspec, well both can have some "Zoom Zoom" and multiplayer and wheels, but the similarities end there.
"You see those red dots over there?
Go and shoot them until you see a +50 on the screen" - Arkena Wyrnspire
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Fizzer XCIV
Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.10.07 17:53:00 -
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1.) No. Just, no. Destiny has great graphics and visuals. Better graphics are to be expected of a newer game, but the visuals of Destiny far surpass Dust. Destiny has many colors and interesting environments, Dust has gray and brown with boring Caldari and slightly-less-boring-but-still-very-boring Gallente architecture.
2.)About a tie, I'd say. Destiny's weapons are far more satisfying to play with, and the gunplay is more than solid. But the extreme depth of Dust is definitely superior IMO. I actually prefer the interesting depth of Dust over the smooth as silk gunplay of Destiny.
3.)They are both terrible as far as storytelling is concerned. Destiny actually has a great lore, but the story that is told with actual gameplay is ****. Dust is the same, interesting lore is not a good story. A player shouldn't have to go to other sources to get their lore, because it should be in the game. I'd have to go with Destiny though. Trying and failing is better than not trying at all.
4.) Agreed. Destiny does not feel like a $500M game. It feels unfinished, which I attribute to the **** pay-to-unlock DLC. ****** business practices that work, right? I hate the industry sometimes... Dust wins here by a landslide.
5.) Yeah Dust wins. It has a good f2p model. Although, buyable cosmetics would be nice, and would make the game much more profitable. Can't go wrong with cosmetics.
However, it doesn't really matter, because they aren't fully competing for the same players. Casting is the epitome of casual. Dust is a hardcore shooter with a niche audience. Destiny will never fill the void that Dust does(did), and vice versa. |
Hansei Kaizen
The Jackson Five
222
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Posted - 2014.10.07 17:55:00 -
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Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote:I personally think they are different enough that we can't really compare very well for "Better."
This is like asking which is a better game, SSX Tricky or Gran Turismo aspec, well both can have some "Zoom Zoom" and multiplayer and wheels, but the similarities end there.
The only thing that annoys me about Destiny (Besides the idiotic "Random" leveling mechanic due to loot) is the failure of a story, which is sinful for a self-alleged MMO-RPG. 500 million dollas out to have a much better story... Hell, the first HALO had a better story... Where's My Story! Psh Psh Psh...
Running around making pew pew IN SPACE ... Dust does it better. Oh lord does it do it better.
Oh btw
6) Pew Pew: Dust weapons feel solid and make PAM PAM or PIAU PIAU or PRRRT. Destiny weapons feel like super soakers making zap zap zap or puff or pui pui pui. I dont have to tell you whats better.
The answer to your complaint is PvE. Always.
NPE status: (Gò»°Gûí°n+ëGò»n+¦ Gö+GöüGö+
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Denchlad 7
Dead Man's Game
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Posted - 2014.10.07 17:56:00 -
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Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote:I personally think they are different enough that we can't really compare very well for "Better."
This is like asking which is a better game, SSX Tricky or Gran Turismo aspec, well both can have some "Zoom Zoom" and multiplayer and wheels, but the similarities end there.
The only thing that annoys me about Destiny (Besides the idiotic "Random" leveling mechanic due to loot) is the failure of a story, which is sinful for a self-alleged MMO-RPG. 500 million dollas out to have a much better story... Hell, the first HALO had a better story... Where's My Story! Psh Psh Psh...
You mentioned Gran Turismo and now I love you.
The Connoisseur of Weapons. 19/19 L5 P1.
"GET BACK HERE YOU SCRUB" - Lorelei Zee 2014
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Hansei Kaizen
The Jackson Five
224
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Posted - 2014.10.07 18:05:00 -
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For clarification: I like to compare apples and pears ... and I say Dust is a better pear than Destiny is an apple.
The answer to your complaint is PvE. Always.
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2014.10.07 18:37:00 -
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I wish Dust players actually knew the lore of their game. Then they could point out the gaping flaws in racial design philosophyand not look like Ignorant jack assess when trying to comment on it.
"We were commanded to burn the system...We did. I mourn the loss of the innocents caught in our fires" -Kador Ouryon
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CharacterNameWasTaken
G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance
113
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Posted - 2014.10.07 18:56:00 -
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Diablo 3 is better than both in all aspects. |
Reign Omega
Ghosts of Dawn General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.10.07 19:13:00 -
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Nailed it. Some backwards stuff in that game. I got mine free with my ps4 "bundle", which I totally think I paid an extra 50$ for the white ps, so I don't have to think I paid money for Destiny. And I'm still playing DUST.
Also, Apples and oranges
Mark a$$ tricks, and bags of dicks....
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Jacques Cayton II
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
971
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Posted - 2014.10.07 19:20:00 -
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I laughed at this. I like borderlands and destiny is a halo borderlands just need dat dlc
We fight for the future of the State not our
personal goals
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CYRAX SERVIUS
Death Firm. Canis Eliminatus Operatives
1917
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Posted - 2014.10.07 21:09:00 -
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1st) PS4 makes it a completely different experience.
2nd) Two very completely different games, can't compare, but the Destiny PVP is far better, no lag, glitches, latency and the matchmaking actually works.
3rd) Planetside two is coming soon, on PS4 though, so again can't compare as PS2 will be far above and beyond Dust in graphics and server standards.
Enjoy your niche audience shooter,
That is all...
I am Dust Free, found fun in gaming again,
Destiny, hell yes, Planetside2? Makes dust look like what it is, crap.
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Commander Shepard III
Pure Evil. Capital Punishment.
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Posted - 2014.10.07 21:27:00 -
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Reasons why I'm better than your Mom
Property of John ShepardIII
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postapo wastelander
Wasteland Desert Rangers
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Posted - 2014.10.07 21:55:00 -
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Star Trek or Star Wars hmm i takin' BOTH
"Ultimate Loggi since 2012 and Tinker of HAWC"
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Riruodo
Templar Investigative Commission
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Posted - 2014.10.07 22:07:00 -
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Hansei Kaizen wrote:3) Story (yes Dust wins on the STORY): Dust takes place in a rich universe you have to figure out by yourself, that is tied in with a great spacegame with a REAL player-made history. Destiny has a rich universe you have to figure out by yourself. There is a Single-Player Campaign with a story, you say? No there isnt. The anti-story is so not there that it swallows the campaign, so that doesnt count. lol. story? what story. Dust 514 has no story whatsoever, and this comes from someone who read Templar One and spent a whole weekend reading almost every Eve wiki page there.
Templar One was good, but CCP seems to want to contradict what is going on Dust side, with almost everything that is said Eve side. It's so bad that I don't know who to trust, the official "novels" or the Eve wiki articles and events.
And that's if you even want to try to get into the "story". The game, just the game, has nothing. I could play for 1 day and have no impact on Eve or I could play for 2 years (or however long ago Beta was) and still have no impact on Eve.
This doesn't mean that I hate Dust 514, I love it. But if we want any stories in Dust 514 we will have to settle with fan fiction and fan comics.
Utena Tenjou is my prince in shining armor.
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"Tell me what you know about Templar One."
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Seigfried Warheit
Caught Me With My Pants Down
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Posted - 2014.10.07 22:43:00 -
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Dust wins cause it was a free half completed game.....Destiny is a $60 half completed game the other half is in DLC form.
I am a prof. V scrub. I have no honor
The best strategy is not to wear pants
Most overhyped by Gabriella Grey
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TEBOW BAGGINS
GREATNESS ACHIEVED THRU TROLLING
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Posted - 2014.10.07 23:19:00 -
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destiny = omg this auto aim... at least the clash of clan players and farmvillers finally have their first first person shooter to goggle over
AKA Zirzo Valcyn
AFKing since 2012
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Onesimus Tarsus
is-a-Corporation
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Posted - 2014.10.07 23:28:00 -
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You know, compared to DUST 514's honest game trailer...
Wait, there isn't one. Let me go find out why...
Oh, nobody cared.
Man, but what a slam on Destiny, eh?
The sig is back! K/D(r) matchmaking would even fix the matchmaking fix.
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Skippy Longstocking
Paladin Survey Force Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.10.07 23:29:00 -
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Lol@fanboys |
Michael Arck
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Posted - 2014.10.07 23:29:00 -
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Console wars had lead people to compare everything. I disagree with it. You cannot compare Dust to Destiny or Destiny to Dust. Both are very different.
You can enjoy both games for what they are without forcing them to duel for your attention.
Archistrategos / The 7th Prime / Selah
*Where the fear has gone there will be nothing....only I will remain
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Bahirae Serugiusu
Vendetta Reactionary Force
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Posted - 2014.10.07 23:45:00 -
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People are still talking about Destiny v. Dust? Who the hell cares! The people who like Destiny aren't here anymore and the people who like Dust are still here! And who says you can't like both? I play Dust 514 in binges then when I get fed up and tired of protostomps then I go play Skyrim or Dragon Age till I feel like I can tolerate it again. |
Eruditus 920
Prodigy Ops
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Posted - 2014.10.08 00:55:00 -
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Bahirae Serugiusu wrote:People are still talking about Destiny v. Dust? Who the hell cares! The people who like Destiny aren't here anymore and the people who like Dust are still here! And who says you can't like both? I play Dust 514 in binges then when I get fed up and tired of protostomps then I go play Skyrim or Dragon Age till I feel like I can tolerate it again.
Skyrim was a great and compelling game. I played it for two years and did about everything that can be done in it.
Wisdom is what you gain after you need it.
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TEBOW BAGGINS
GREATNESS ACHIEVED THRU TROLLING
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Posted - 2014.10.08 00:58:00 -
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dust is a shot of whiskey destiny is a whine cooler
AKA Zirzo Valcyn
AFKing since 2012
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TEBOW BAGGINS
GREATNESS ACHIEVED THRU TROLLING
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Posted - 2014.10.08 00:59:00 -
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Eruditus 920 wrote:Bahirae Serugiusu wrote:People are still talking about Destiny v. Dust? Who the hell cares! The people who like Destiny aren't here anymore and the people who like Dust are still here! And who says you can't like both? I play Dust 514 in binges then when I get fed up and tired of protostomps then I go play Skyrim or Dragon Age till I feel like I can tolerate it again. Skyrim was a great and compelling game. I played it for two years and did about everything that can be done in it. Edit: eh, call it a year and a half.
ah.... that beheading
i play melee for hours to see
AKA Zirzo Valcyn
AFKing since 2012
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J4yne C0bb
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
864
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Posted - 2014.10.08 01:02:00 -
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Bahirae Serugiusu wrote:People are still talking about Destiny v. Dust? Who the hell cares! The people who like Destiny aren't here anymore and the people who like Dust are still here! And who says you can't like both? I play Dust 514 in binges then when I get fed up and tired of protostomps then I go play Skyrim or Dragon Age till I feel like I can tolerate it again. /thread.
<-- currently fed-up Destiny player, whose certain to be back someday.
Other than being of the FPS genre, they aren't the same type of game, and aren't competing against each other for players. I didn't stop playing Dust because I thought Destiny did it better; I got sick of Dust, and needed a change.
This thread is pointless.
Min Logi | aka Punch R0ckgroin, fatman
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Atiim
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Posted - 2014.10.08 02:01:00 -
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Even apples and oranges can be compared to each other, as they're both fruit.
The 1st Matari Commando
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Faquira Bleuetta
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
465
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Posted - 2014.10.08 02:38:00 -
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CharacterNameWasTaken wrote:Diablo 3 is better than both in all aspects. Great story, characters, lore ,weapons, graphics, things to do, things to kill difficulties dynamic difdiculties weapon mods should i keep going? ur ******* kidding diablo 1 is superior to diablo in any way. |
The Master Race
Immortal Guides
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Posted - 2014.10.08 02:46:00 -
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Faquira Bleuetta wrote:CharacterNameWasTaken wrote:Diablo 3 is better than both in all aspects. Great story, characters, lore ,weapons, graphics, things to do, things to kill difficulties dynamic difdiculties weapon mods should i keep going? ur ******* kidding diablo 1 is superior to diablo in any way.
Agree D1 and D2 were 100x better than 3 ******* unicorns ruining a run on joke that had been going from the start that even leached into other games. Kill D3 devs scroll
Destiny is sooo bad it's only redeeming factor is it is most likely console players first look at "next gen" graphics not that they are even done that well.
New, delicious, Soylent green the miracle food of high-energy plankton gathered from the oceans of the world.
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Blueprint For Murder
Immortal Guides
99
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Posted - 2014.10.08 02:46:00 -
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Faquira Bleuetta wrote:CharacterNameWasTaken wrote:Diablo 3 is better than both in all aspects. Great story, characters, lore ,weapons, graphics, things to do, things to kill difficulties dynamic difdiculties weapon mods should i keep going? ur ******* kidding diablo 1 is superior to diablo in any way.
Agree D1 and D2 were 100x better than 3 ******* unicorns ruining a run on joke that had been going from the start that even leached into other games. Kill D3 devs scroll
Destiny is sooo bad it's only redeeming factor is it is most likely console players first look at "next gen" graphics not that they are even done that well.
New, delicious, Soylent green the miracle food of high-energy plankton gathered from the oceans of the world.
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ReGnYuM
YOU GOT OWNED BY A CHRONIC FAPPER
3289
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Posted - 2014.10.08 02:47:00 -
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I can assure you of one thing Mr OP,
People on the destiny forums are not making long and detailed threads of why Destiny is better then Dust 514
Selling ISK for $$$. Message me for details
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