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Hansei Kaizen The Jackson Five 222	Posted - 2014.10.07 17:32:00 - [1] - Quote I didnt post anything for a while here, but I just bought Destiny and already have the feeling of having wasted my precious money (yes, I am poor as 1st world standards go). I just wanted to give a big wet smooch and heads up to CCPs Dust team, because I just realized what an effin great job they did, in comparison with this over-produced piece of BS. Please guys, dont try "me too" Destiny with Legion and stick with your style! (disclaimer: I play Destiny on a PS3 ...) 1) Optics: Dust looks crisp and tight and makes great use of PS3 graphics. Destiny looks like a bowl of stew (a nicely colored bowl of stew though). 2) Gameplay: Dust has elaborate depth and emergent complexity in its multiplayer focused gameplay. You can play it for years without fully grasping it (as a casual gamer at least). Destiny = Shoot weapon 1, get closer, shoot weapon 2, get closer, melee. Repeat 1 billion times. 3) Story (yes Dust wins on the STORY): Dust takes place in a rich universe you have to figure out by yourself, that is tied in with a great spacegame with a REAL player-made history. Destiny has a rich universe you have to figure out by yourself. There is a Single-Player Campaign with a story, you say? No there isnt. The anti-story is so not there that it swallows the campaign, so that doesnt count. 4) Budget (developer): I dont know what Dust development did cost, but since Bungie claims to have had the highest budget EVAH, I assume it wasnt 500 Mio. I want to travel into a parallel universe, where all that money was spent on Dust/Legion and Eve. I have a dream. 5) Budget (player): Yes, you can sink unlimited money into Dust. But you really dont have to. I paid 40 Gé¼ on Dust, and the second half of this was out of sheer gratitude for the good (and bad) times. I just paid 70 Gé¼ on Destiny and already am sure I wont get my moneys worth. The 10 promised years of expansions will have to be paid additionally. Rip off you say? I absolutely agree! Who dares to give me more reasons to be pissed at Destiny? Warning, my head might explode. The answer to your complaint is PvE. Always. NPE status: (Gò»°Gûí°n+ëGò»n+¦ Gö+GöüGö+ Casual solo
Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 4027	Posted - 2014.10.07 17:32:00 - [2] - Quote Um, here, have this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUIvhQPPCRg CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
Xocoyol Zaraoul Superior Genetics 2534	Posted - 2014.10.07 17:37:00 - [3] - Quote I personally think they are different enough that we can't really compare very well for "Better." This is like asking which is a better game, SSX Tricky or Gran Turismo aspec, well both can have some "Zoom Zoom" and multiplayer and wheels, but the similarities end there. "You see those red dots over there? Go and shoot them until you see a +50 on the screen" - Arkena Wyrnspire
Fizzer XCIV Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire 410	Posted - 2014.10.07 17:53:00 - [4] - Quote 1.) No. Just, no. Destiny has great graphics and visuals. Better graphics are to be expected of a newer game, but the visuals of Destiny far surpass Dust. Destiny has many colors and interesting environments, Dust has gray and brown with boring Caldari and slightly-less-boring-but-still-very-boring Gallente architecture. 2.)About a tie, I'd say. Destiny's weapons are far more satisfying to play with, and the gunplay is more than solid. But the extreme depth of Dust is definitely superior IMO. I actually prefer the interesting depth of Dust over the smooth as silk gunplay of Destiny. 3.)They are both terrible as far as storytelling is concerned. Destiny actually has a great lore, but the story that is told with actual gameplay is **. Dust is the same, interesting lore is not a good story. A player shouldn't have to go to other sources to get their lore, because it should be in the game. I'd have to go with Destiny though. Trying and failing is better than not trying at all. 4.) Agreed. Destiny does not feel like a $500M game. It feels unfinished, which I attribute to the pay-to-unlock DLC. **** business practices that work, right? I hate the industry sometimes... Dust wins here by a landslide. 5.) Yeah Dust wins. It has a good f2p model. Although, buyable cosmetics would be nice, and would make the game much more profitable. Can't go wrong with cosmetics. However, it doesn't really matter, because they aren't fully competing for the same players. Casting is the epitome of casual. Dust is a hardcore shooter with a niche audience. Destiny will never fill the void that Dust does(did), and vice versa.
Hansei Kaizen The Jackson Five 222	Posted - 2014.10.07 17:55:00 - [5] - Quote Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote: I personally think they are different enough that we can't really compare very well for "Better." This is like asking which is a better game, SSX Tricky or Gran Turismo aspec, well both can have some "Zoom Zoom" and multiplayer and wheels, but the similarities end there. The only thing that annoys me about Destiny (Besides the idiotic "Random" leveling mechanic due to loot) is the failure of a story, which is sinful for a self-alleged MMO-RPG. 500 million dollas out to have a much better story... Hell, the first HALO had a better story... Where's My Story! Psh Psh Psh... Running around making pew pew IN SPACE ... Dust does it better. Oh lord does it do it better. Oh btw 6) Pew Pew: Dust weapons feel solid and make PAM PAM or PIAU PIAU or PRRRT. Destiny weapons feel like super soakers making zap zap zap or puff or pui pui pui. I dont have to tell you whats better. The answer to your complaint is PvE. Always. NPE status: (Gò»°Gûí°n+ëGò»n+¦ Gö+GöüGö+ Casual solo
Denchlad 7 Dead Man's Game 700	Posted - 2014.10.07 17:56:00 - [6] - Quote Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote: I personally think they are different enough that we can't really compare very well for "Better." This is like asking which is a better game, SSX Tricky or Gran Turismo aspec, well both can have some "Zoom Zoom" and multiplayer and wheels, but the similarities end there. The only thing that annoys me about Destiny (Besides the idiotic "Random" leveling mechanic due to loot) is the failure of a story, which is sinful for a self-alleged MMO-RPG. 500 million dollas out to have a much better story... Hell, the first HALO had a better story... Where's My Story! Psh Psh Psh... You mentioned Gran Turismo and now I love you. The Connoisseur of Weapons. 19/19 L5 P1. "GET BACK HERE YOU SCRUB" - Lorelei Zee 2014
Hansei Kaizen The Jackson Five 224	Posted - 2014.10.07 18:05:00 - [7] - Quote For clarification: I like to compare apples and pears ... and I say Dust is a better pear than Destiny is an apple. The answer to your complaint is PvE. Always. NPE status: (Gò»°Gûí°n+ëGò»n+¦ Gö+GöüGö+ Casual solo
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 13405	Posted - 2014.10.07 18:37:00 - [8] - Quote I wish Dust players actually knew the lore of their game. Then they could point out the gaping flaws in racial design philosophyand not look like Ignorant jack assess when trying to comment on it. "We were commanded to burn the system...We did. I mourn the loss of the innocents caught in our fires" -Kador Ouryon
CharacterNameWasTaken G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 113	Posted - 2014.10.07 18:56:00 - [9] - Quote Diablo 3 is better than both in all aspects.
Reign Omega Ghosts of Dawn General Tso's Alliance 931	Posted - 2014.10.07 19:13:00 - [10] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: Um, here, have this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUIvhQPPCRg Nailed it. Some backwards stuff in that game. I got mine free with my ps4 "bundle", which I totally think I paid an extra 50$ for the white ps, so I don't have to think I paid money for Destiny. And I'm still playing DUST. Also, Apples and oranges Mark a$$ tricks, and bags of dicks....

Jacques Cayton II Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 971	Posted - 2014.10.07 19:20:00 - [11] - Quote I laughed at this. I like borderlands and destiny is a halo borderlands just need dat dlc We fight for the future of the State not our personal goals
CYRAX SERVIUS Death Firm. Canis Eliminatus Operatives 1917	Posted - 2014.10.07 21:09:00 - [12] - Quote 1st) PS4 makes it a completely different experience. 2nd) Two very completely different games, can't compare, but the Destiny PVP is far better, no lag, glitches, latency and the matchmaking actually works. 3rd) Planetside two is coming soon, on PS4 though, so again can't compare as PS2 will be far above and beyond Dust in graphics and server standards. Enjoy your niche audience shooter, That is all... I am Dust Free, found fun in gaming again, Destiny, hell yes, Planetside2? Makes dust look like what it is, crap.
Commander Shepard III Pure Evil. Capital Punishment. 4	Posted - 2014.10.07 21:27:00 - [13] - Quote Reasons why I'm better than your Mom Property of John ShepardIII
postapo wastelander Wasteland Desert Rangers 149	Posted - 2014.10.07 21:55:00 - [14] - Quote Star Trek or Star Wars hmm i takin' BOTH "Ultimate Loggi since 2012 and Tinker of HAWC"
Riruodo Templar Investigative Commission 324	Posted - 2014.10.07 22:07:00 - [15] - Quote Hansei Kaizen wrote: 3) Story (yes Dust wins on the STORY): Dust takes place in a rich universe you have to figure out by yourself, that is tied in with a great spacegame with a REAL player-made history. Destiny has a rich universe you have to figure out by yourself. There is a Single-Player Campaign with a story, you say? No there isnt. The anti-story is so not there that it swallows the campaign, so that doesnt count. lol. story? what story. Dust 514 has no story whatsoever, and this comes from someone who read Templar One and spent a whole weekend reading almost every Eve wiki page there. Templar One was good, but CCP seems to want to contradict what is going on Dust side, with almost everything that is said Eve side. It's so bad that I don't know who to trust, the official "novels" or the Eve wiki articles and events. And that's if you even want to try to get into the "story". The game, just the game, has nothing. I could play for 1 day and have no impact on Eve or I could play for 2 years (or however long ago Beta was) and still have no impact on Eve. This doesn't mean that I hate Dust 514, I love it. But if we want any stories in Dust 514 we will have to settle with fan fiction and fan comics. Utena Tenjou is my prince in shining armor. - "Tell me what you know about Templar One."
Seigfried Warheit Caught Me With My Pants Down 361	Posted - 2014.10.07 22:43:00 - [16] - Quote Dust wins cause it was a free half completed game.....Destiny is a $60 half completed game the other half is in DLC form. I am a prof. V scrub. I have no honor The best strategy is not to wear pants Most overhyped by Gabriella Grey
TEBOW BAGGINS GREATNESS ACHIEVED THRU TROLLING 1268	Posted - 2014.10.07 23:19:00 - [17] - Quote destiny = omg this auto aim... at least the clash of clan players and farmvillers finally have their first first person shooter to goggle over AKA Zirzo Valcyn AFKing since 2012
Onesimus Tarsus is-a-Corporation 2679	Posted - 2014.10.07 23:28:00 - [18] - Quote You know, compared to DUST 514's honest game trailer... Wait, there isn't one. Let me go find out why... Oh, nobody cared. Man, but what a slam on Destiny, eh? The sig is back! K/D(r) matchmaking would even fix the matchmaking fix.
Skippy Longstocking Paladin Survey Force Amarr Empire 74	Posted - 2014.10.07 23:29:00 - [19] - Quote Lol@fanboys
Michael Arck 5852	Posted - 2014.10.07 23:29:00 - [20] - Quote Console wars had lead people to compare everything. I disagree with it. You cannot compare Dust to Destiny or Destiny to Dust. Both are very different. You can enjoy both games for what they are without forcing them to duel for your attention. Archistrategos / The 7th Prime / Selah *Where the fear has gone there will be nothing....only I will remain

Bahirae Serugiusu Vendetta Reactionary Force 165	Posted - 2014.10.07 23:45:00 - [21] - Quote People are still talking about Destiny v. Dust? Who the hell cares! The people who like Destiny aren't here anymore and the people who like Dust are still here! And who says you can't like both? I play Dust 514 in binges then when I get fed up and tired of protostomps then I go play Skyrim or Dragon Age till I feel like I can tolerate it again.
Eruditus 920 Prodigy Ops 541	Posted - 2014.10.08 00:55:00 - [22] - Quote Bahirae Serugiusu wrote: People are still talking about Destiny v. Dust? Who the hell cares! The people who like Destiny aren't here anymore and the people who like Dust are still here! And who says you can't like both? I play Dust 514 in binges then when I get fed up and tired of protostomps then I go play Skyrim or Dragon Age till I feel like I can tolerate it again. Skyrim was a great and compelling game. I played it for two years and did about everything that can be done in it. Wisdom is what you gain after you need it.
TEBOW BAGGINS GREATNESS ACHIEVED THRU TROLLING 1269	Posted - 2014.10.08 00:58:00 - [23] - Quote dust is a shot of whiskey destiny is a whine cooler AKA Zirzo Valcyn AFKing since 2012
TEBOW BAGGINS GREATNESS ACHIEVED THRU TROLLING 1270	Posted - 2014.10.08 00:59:00 - [24] - Quote Eruditus 920 wrote: Bahirae Serugiusu wrote: People are still talking about Destiny v. Dust? Who the hell cares! The people who like Destiny aren't here anymore and the people who like Dust are still here! And who says you can't like both? I play Dust 514 in binges then when I get fed up and tired of protostomps then I go play Skyrim or Dragon Age till I feel like I can tolerate it again. Skyrim was a great and compelling game. I played it for two years and did about everything that can be done in it. Edit: eh, call it a year and a half. ah.... that beheading i play melee for hours to see AKA Zirzo Valcyn AFKing since 2012
J4yne C0bb Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 864	Posted - 2014.10.08 01:02:00 - [25] - Quote Bahirae Serugiusu wrote: People are still talking about Destiny v. Dust? Who the hell cares! The people who like Destiny aren't here anymore and the people who like Dust are still here! And who says you can't like both? I play Dust 514 in binges then when I get fed up and tired of protostomps then I go play Skyrim or Dragon Age till I feel like I can tolerate it again. /thread. <-- currently fed-up Destiny player, whose certain to be back someday. Other than being of the FPS genre, they aren't the same type of game, and aren't competing against each other for players. I didn't stop playing Dust because I thought Destiny did it better; I got sick of Dust, and needed a change. This thread is pointless. Min Logi \| aka Punch R0ckgroin, fatman
Atiim 12821	Posted - 2014.10.08 02:01:00 - [26] - Quote Even apples and oranges can be compared to each other, as they're both fruit. The 1st Matari Commando -HAND
Faquira Bleuetta Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 465	Posted - 2014.10.08 02:38:00 - [27] - Quote CharacterNameWasTaken wrote: Diablo 3 is better than both in all aspects. Great story, characters, lore ,weapons, graphics, things to do, things to kill difficulties dynamic difdiculties weapon mods should i keep going? ur ******* kidding diablo 1 is superior to diablo in any way.
The Master Race Immortal Guides 89	Posted - 2014.10.08 02:46:00 - [28] - Quote Faquira Bleuetta wrote: CharacterNameWasTaken wrote: Diablo 3 is better than both in all aspects. Great story, characters, lore ,weapons, graphics, things to do, things to kill difficulties dynamic difdiculties weapon mods should i keep going? ur ***** kidding diablo 1 is superior to diablo in any way. Agree D1 and D2 were 100x better than 3 ***** unicorns ruining a run on joke that had been going from the start that even leached into other games. Kill D3 devs scroll Destiny is sooo bad it's only redeeming factor is it is most likely console players first look at "next gen" graphics not that they are even done that well. New, delicious, Soylent green the miracle food of high-energy plankton gathered from the oceans of the world.
Blueprint For Murder Immortal Guides 99	Posted - 2014.10.08 02:46:00 - [29] - Quote Faquira Bleuetta wrote: CharacterNameWasTaken wrote: Diablo 3 is better than both in all aspects. Great story, characters, lore ,weapons, graphics, things to do, things to kill difficulties dynamic difdiculties weapon mods should i keep going? ur ***** kidding diablo 1 is superior to diablo in any way. Agree D1 and D2 were 100x better than 3 ***** unicorns ruining a run on joke that had been going from the start that even leached into other games. Kill D3 devs scroll Destiny is sooo bad it's only redeeming factor is it is most likely console players first look at "next gen" graphics not that they are even done that well. New, delicious, Soylent green the miracle food of high-energy plankton gathered from the oceans of the world.
ReGnYuM YOU GOT OWNED BY A CHRONIC FAPPER 3289	Posted - 2014.10.08 02:47:00 - [30] - Quote I can assure you of one thing Mr OP, People on the destiny forums are not making long and detailed threads of why Destiny is better then Dust 514 Selling ISK for $$$. Message me for details

True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 13421	Posted - 2014.10.08 02:59:00 - [31] - Quote ReGnYuM wrote: I can assure you of one thing Mr OP, People on the destiny forums are not making long and detailed threads of why Destiny is better then Dust 514 They have no idea what Dust 514 is.... "We were commanded to burn the system...We did. I mourn the loss of the innocents caught in our fires" -Kador Ouryon
Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 4912	Posted - 2014.10.08 02:59:00 - [32] - Quote My question is why would anyone be on the Destiny forums? The game has no content or even a political background that necessitates or encourages conversation regarding it. I'm curious if Mavado is actually trying to do anything on that game, or if he plans on giving up after 2 months like every other game because it doesn't **** rainbows like he imagines a worthy game must do.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 13421	Posted - 2014.10.08 03:10:00 - [33] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: My question is why would anyone be on the Destiny forums? The game has no content or even a political background that necessitates or encourages conversation regarding it. I'm curious if Mavado is actually trying to do anything on that game, or if he plans on giving up after 2 months like every other game because it doesn't **** rainbows like he imagines a worthy game must do. That's debatable. Content was there, some content still is......... it's just nowhere to be found in the game.....and since Destiny caters to the casual gamer as a primary audience, an audience not interested in having to dig deep for scraps of content, it really came out poorly. Grimoire cards indicate there are supposed to be political alignments here and there in the Consensus........ but again....this just doesn't come across in the game. "We were commanded to burn the system...We did. I mourn the loss of the innocents caught in our fires" -Kador Ouryon
The Master Race Immortal Guides 91	Posted - 2014.10.08 10:12:00 - [34] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: My question is why would anyone be on the Destiny forums? The game has no content or even a political background that necessitates or encourages conversation regarding it. I'm curious if Mavado is actually trying to do anything on that game, or if he plans on giving up after 2 months like every other game because it doesn't ** rainbows like he imagines a worthy game must do. ***** unicorns!... Dam you D3. New, delicious, Soylent green the miracle food of high-energy plankton gathered from the oceans of the world.
Blueprint For Murder Immortal Guides 99	Posted - 2014.10.08 10:12:00 - [35] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: My question is why would anyone be on the Destiny forums? The game has no content or even a political background that necessitates or encourages conversation regarding it. I'm curious if Mavado is actually trying to do anything on that game, or if he plans on giving up after 2 months like every other game because it doesn't ** rainbows like he imagines a worthy game must do. *** unicorns!... Dam you D3. Edit: On a real note though even though you not suppose to talk about games in beta if it is a great game everyone hears about it not from pr, but from the players. If it is a game you get a ton of pr and then they dish out free coasters to all the streamers with a few fans and being the failtards they are eat it up and give a good review(yea it is hard to go wrong with a game you didn't pay for). It really should not have been a surprise to anyone I mean unless you are a complete moron I mean blizzard and bungie games quality have been for years. I am not going to go into all the fail blizzard has done... ***** unicorns! ... if you are/were a player you know what the did to wow and bungie games have been going down hill since halo 2. It is like the elder scrolls if anyone thought teso was going to be anything, but a money grab must have been blind to the degradation of the series since daggerfall. 3 was amazing and is still prolly my fav. but the simplification of combat mechanics was just lazy and there was a much steeper failure after 3. Companies hit it big with a title then the name becomes worth more than their games I feel the next victim of this as much as it pains me to say it is going to be from software. I love their games been playing since I fell in love with kings field demon souls was the reason I bought a ps3, but I don't have much hope from what I read about there up coming title with simplified mechanics that is a more action oriented rehashing of dark souls I mean the combat was already gamebreakingly loose in ds2. New, delicious, Soylent green the miracle food of high-energy plankton gathered from the oceans of the world.
Jathniel G I A N T 1177	Posted - 2014.10.08 10:49:00 - [36] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: Um, here, have this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUIvhQPPCRg In Destiny's defense... you can't trade in Dust either. Must be a conspiracy or something.... lol Oh and.... he probably won't do one for Dust. Set your goals high, and shoot for the moon; even if you miss you'll land amongst the stars.
Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 4914	Posted - 2014.10.08 16:56:00 - [37] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Himiko Kuronaga wrote: My question is why would anyone be on the Destiny forums? The game has no content or even a political background that necessitates or encourages conversation regarding it. I'm curious if Mavado is actually trying to do anything on that game, or if he plans on giving up after 2 months like every other game because it doesn't **** rainbows like he imagines a worthy game must do. That's debatable. Content was there, some content still is......... it's just nowhere to be found in the game.....and since Destiny caters to the casual gamer as a primary audience, an audience not interested in having to dig deep for scraps of content, it really came out poorly. Grimoire cards indicate there are supposed to be political alignments here and there in the Consensus........ but again....this just doesn't come across in the game. When I'm talking politics I'm talking about actual player interaction, not lore. Politics denotes a player driven competitive end-game. No such thing exists, because it was a complete afterthought.
Hansei Kaizen The Jackson Five 228	Posted - 2014.10.10 19:12:00 - [38] - Quote I just wanted to give Destiny the ** it deserves. Lord knows I gave dust the it deserves and I thought its fair to even out the ***. I still think its valid to compare the two. Show the two Games to your granny. She probably couldnt even see any difference at all. Some structural differences have to be weighed in I agree, but there is no categorical difference I would accept. To the point of " why are you discussing this?" Jeez, this is a forum. Its for discussing unimportant bullshit for fun and to vent some steam. What else are you here for? The answer to your complaint is PvE. Always. NPE status: (Gò»°Gûí°n+ëGò»n+¦ Gö+GöüGö+ Casual solo
soulreaper73 PFB Pink Fluffy Bunnies 1157	Posted - 2014.10.10 19:55:00 - [39] - Quote Hansei Kaizen wrote: I just wanted to give Destiny the ** it deserves. Lord knows I gave dust the it deserves and I thought its fair to even out the ***. I still think its valid to compare the two. Show the two Games to your granny. She probably couldnt even see any difference at all. Some structural differences have to be weighed in I agree, but there is no categorical difference I would accept. To the point of " why are you discussing this?" Jeez, this is a forum. Its for discussing unimportant bullshit for fun and to vent some steam. What else are you here for? Im here for the anime.
Skippy Longstocking Paladin Survey Force Amarr Empire 86	Posted - 2014.10.10 19:59:00 - [40] - Quote Hansei Kaizen wrote: I just wanted to give Destiny the ** it deserves. Lord knows I gave dust the it deserves and I thought its fair to even out the ***. I still think its valid to compare the two. Show the two Games to your granny. She probably couldnt even see any difference at all. Some structural differences have to be weighed in I agree, but there is no categorical difference I would accept. To the point of " why are you discussing this?" Jeez, this is a forum. Its for discussing unimportant bullshit for fun and to vent some steam. What else are you here for? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8avWJIwyxY

Hansei Kaizen The Jackson Five 228	Posted - 2014.10.10 20:17:00 - [41] - Quote well, I asked. I officially repurpose this to a "what are you here for? " thread The answer to your complaint is PvE. Always. NPE status: (Gò»°Gûí°n+ëGò»n+¦ Gö+GöüGö+ Casual solo
Savage Mangler Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 170	Posted - 2014.10.11 00:13:00 - [42] - Quote TEBOW BAGGINS wrote: Eruditus 920 wrote: Bahirae Serugiusu wrote: People are still talking about Destiny v. Dust? Who the hell cares! The people who like Destiny aren't here anymore and the people who like Dust are still here! And who says you can't like both? I play Dust 514 in binges then when I get fed up and tired of protostomps then I go play Skyrim or Dragon Age till I feel like I can tolerate it again. Skyrim was a great and compelling game. I played it for two years and did about everything that can be done in it. Edit: eh, call it a year and a half. ah.... that beheading i play melee for hours to see playing dungeon siege 2 right now on halfass laptop.. i got game for $1.50 at thrift store I hope it came with the expansion pack. It's kinda blah without it. -YOU HAVE BEEN SCANNED- "Good, then they'll know who killed them." Salvation...through Annihilation


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