So, in my long career of gaming, almost every game I've played, the Devs actually played their own game. They even let the players beta test their patches before coming out. I know that Sony won't let CCP let us beta test patches, or maybe that's a CCP policy. I don't know and I don't care. The point of this thread is to ask the Devs, specifically, if they even play their own game before they release a patch that is, in their eyes, good and balancing.

So, I am heavily invested in this game and am always disappointed when you come out with a patch that completely ruin the meta and gameplay of the game. I don't know why you thought it was a good idea to nerf the dropships the way you did. I don't know why you took away the precision bonus from Caldari Scouts and gave it to the Galente and the Amarr. That is, as far as I can tell from the lore, that is completely contrary to what those races are - statwise, at least.

So, Devs, do you actually play your own game while coming up with these 'balances' or do you just look at raw numbers and say 'oh, well, that number clearly shouldn't be like that, so we'll change it' or 'Well, we don't like how people are using that feature, so we'll nerf the crap out of it' or do you just listen and actually change things when enough people cry about something?

ccp rattati and gm archduke play quite frequently, although rattati usually plays on a non-ccp account. Also, take a look at this https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=topics&f=1775. The devs look at player feedback before they make a change. You complaining after its already been made doesn't help

Additionally to CCP Rattati, who was playing the game long before he was in charge of fixing the game, CCP Logibro was a player of the game before he was hired by CCP. The game is balanced both on statistics and player feedback, with input from the CPM as well.

Unfortunately, it is impossible to run a test server for a PS3 game. We'd all love to have one, but it's just outside the scope of practicality.

Why is it that every "Do DEVs even DUST?" thread is made by butthurt FoTM Scrubs and Pilots?

The reality on the ADS, was that it was an incredible outlier statistically. It's still overpowered, depending how you measure it, it's just... less OP now than it was before. Plenty of ADS players have stated otherwise, but they're also heavily biased, and the reality is, they're just closer to the level of play others experience now.

ab nerf just means pilot has to change his assault pattern, we now either choose to wait it out for ab to come back online or decide to risk it while it's cooling down. ab cd was op from the beginning.

I know we aren't supposed to swear, but that statement is bullshit. Do you actually listen to the community? I've listened to non pilots that say that the ADS nerf was a bit too much. ADS could always be handled with decent AV. Always. I sometimes fly dropships and this nerf was kind of ridiculous. Now they are wanting to change the whole ADS meta by changing the Python and Incubus bonuses? Where do they get off on that?

How hard is it to search for Rattati's posting history and see for yourself before attempting to shame him? Why on earth would you cry about CCP not listening to player feedback when there is an entire subforum dedicated to it? Why didn't you participate in the Delta feedback process? It's not perfect, but far better than the picture you are trying to paint.

As long as we're all here though, why don't you post your suggestions to fix instead of just bellyaching that things are broken? We'd be happy to pass it along since Echo feedback threads are already in progress.

I would like a DEV to respond to this question instead of random players that just speculate.

Are you serious? Why are you so special Rattati needs to spoon feed you? He's answered your questions several times, because you aren't a unique snowflake and it's all been asked before. Use the search button before the post button.

i'm not specifically calling ratatatata out, Im calling CCP out as a whole. Are we just going to overlook them snubbing us at EVE Fanfest and pretty much killing Dust and waiting out the Sony contract to end so they can maybe get a green light on Legion?

Additionally to CCP Rattati, who was playing the game long before he was in charge of fixing the game, CCP Logibro was a player of the game before he was hired by CCP. The game is balanced both on statistics and player feedback, with input from the CPM as well.

Unfortunately, it is impossible to run a test server for a PS3 game. We'd all love to have one, but it's just outside the scope of practicality.

I know we aren't supposed to swear, but that statement is bullshit. Do you actually listen to the community? I've listened to non pilots that say that the ADS nerf was a bit too much. ADS could always be handled with decent AV. Always. I sometimes fly dropships and this nerf was kind of ridiculous. Now they are wanting to change the whole ADS meta by changing the Python and Incubus bonuses? Where do they get off on that?

I think the issue you are taking umbrage with isn't whether the devs play or don't play.

The game has always suffered from a severe lack of QA. And I think that is the concern you actually have.

Yes, they do listen.

When the Charlie sniper recticle change didn't go over well in all situations, they got feedback and now have different recticles for different SRs.

When the Cal Scout slot changes were occurring before Charlie, they were originally slated to have 1 LS at advanced, and the community convinced them to keep the 2 LS at advanced.

There are many other examples of devs listening to feedback. Just because they don't always do exactly what we want doesn't mean they aren't collaborative.

Yes, that is it, actually. CCP plays things so close to the chest it's ridiculous.

I also love how defensive people are getting for Ratatata

Those don't really count, in my opinion, since they don't change the meta of the game. People were fine with the old recticles, just more people wanted them different. Having 1 LS for the adv Cal Scout was fine, it's just more people didn't want to change their gameplay with an adv cal scout cause they didn't want to use a proto.

The changes they've been making have been changing the meta of the game drastically. My real question is 'Do they play their own game and do they see the effects of their changes if they do, in fact, play their own game'?

Look at the Bolt pistol. It can three shot, or four shot, ANYTHING on the board right now. Sure, they reduced the RoF, but it still does a metric ton of damage per shot, even without a damage mod or prof.

MLT gear is more on the terms of ADV/Proto gear for their price. Have they listened to the people that want MLT gear nerfed more? It took them what, 5 patches to put the Battle Academy back to what it was. Well, at least almost back to what it was.

Lets look at the meta as it is now:

Greater suit variety than ever before.

Greater weapon variety than ever before.

Such a crappy meta Rattati and Logibro have put together...

Look at the Bolt pistol. It can three shot, or four shot, ANYTHING on the board right now. Sure, they reduced the RoF, but it still does a metric ton of damage per shot, even without a damage mod or prof.

The reality on the ADS, was that it was an incredible outlier statistically. It's still overpowered, depending how you measure it, it's just... less OP now than it was before. Plenty of ADS players have stated otherwise, but they're also heavily biased, and the reality is, they're just closer to the level of play others experience now.

I've played with Rattati, Cmdrwang, Frame, Foxfour, Archduke, Logibro and Saberwing