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Mejt0
Hollywood Undead.
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Posted - 2014.11.20 13:18:00 -
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The simpliest solution would be to make bonuses apply to modules. Then they (tanked) would be easy to scan.
Making scouts sidearm only is just bad and boring.
Ps. OP. You're running solo or in group? Cuz solo running enemy < scout.
Caldari Loyalist
Markiplier fan.
Got 6815 WP only on wrecking tanks with Ion Cannon.
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The Master Race
Immortal Guides
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Posted - 2014.11.20 13:22:00 -
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Kodho wrote:Getting rid of the light weapon slot would kill my character. I'm a sniper and run a scout suit. I do this so I can move quickly from location to location all the while maintaining a very low profile. I do not run cloak. I would be forced to run a logi suit if the scout is taken away from me. If my suit is taken, give me my sniper rifle range back so I can get back into the redline.
We did not have these issues before the cloak.
You would be able to run sniper on a light frame it would remain the same.. I do understand how poor the other classes act in many situations because of the poor jump.
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Blueprint For Murder
Immortal Guides
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Posted - 2014.11.20 13:22:00 -
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Kodho wrote:Getting rid of the light weapon slot would kill my character. I'm a sniper and run a scout suit. I do this so I can move quickly from location to location all the while maintaining a very low profile. I do not run cloak. I would be forced to run a logi suit if the scout is taken away from me. If my suit is taken, give me my sniper rifle range back so I can get back into the redline.
We did not have these issues before the cloak.
You would be able to run sniper on a light frame it would remain the same.. I do understand how poor the other classes act in many situations because of the poor jump.
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Kodho
Hidden Suppression
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Posted - 2014.11.20 13:28:00 -
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Blueprint For Murder wrote:Kodho wrote:Getting rid of the light weapon slot would kill my character. I'm a sniper and run a scout suit. I do this so I can move quickly from location to location all the while maintaining a very low profile. I do not run cloak. I would be forced to run a logi suit if the scout is taken away from me. If my suit is taken, give me my sniper rifle range back so I can get back into the redline.
We did not have these issues before the cloak. You would be able to run sniper on a light frame it would remain the same.. I do understand how poor the other classes act in many situations because of the poor jump.
According to the recommendation from the op, light weapon slot would be removed and replaced with an additional sidearm slot. Sniper rifles are light weapons. Therefore, he ability to use them on a scout suit would be eliminated. Am I missing something?
Long Live the Scout!
Kodho
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Blueprint For Murder
Immortal Guides
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Posted - 2014.11.20 13:31:00 -
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No, you are correct, but you would be able to use them on a light suit and still gain most of its benefits.
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The Master Race
Immortal Guides
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Posted - 2014.11.20 13:31:00 -
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No, you are correct, but you would be able to use them on a light suit and still gain most of its benefits.
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Kodho
Hidden Suppression
64
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Posted - 2014.11.20 13:32:00 -
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Ah, I get what you are saying now. I'll have to look up the stats on a proto light frame.
Long Live the Scout!
Kodho
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Mejt0
Hollywood Undead.
519
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Posted - 2014.11.20 13:34:00 -
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Kodho wrote:Blueprint For Murder wrote:Kodho wrote:Getting rid of the light weapon slot would kill my character. I'm a sniper and run a scout suit. I do this so I can move quickly from location to location all the while maintaining a very low profile. I do not run cloak. I would be forced to run a logi suit if the scout is taken away from me. If my suit is taken, give me my sniper rifle range back so I can get back into the redline.
We did not have these issues before the cloak. You would be able to run sniper on a light frame it would remain the same.. I do understand how poor the other classes act in many situations because of the poor jump.
According to the recommendation from the op, light weapon slot would be removed and replaced with an additional sidearm slot. Sniper rifles are light weapons. Therefore, he ability to use them on a scout suit would be eliminated. Am I missing something?
Scout is a specialized suit. Light frame = basic light frame, not scout.
Caldari Loyalist
Markiplier fan.
Got 6815 WP only on wrecking tanks with Ion Cannon.
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Blueprint For Murder
Immortal Guides
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Posted - 2014.11.20 13:34:00 -
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It has a lower cpu/pg since it is not fitted for the cloak.
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The Master Race
Immortal Guides
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Posted - 2014.11.20 13:34:00 -
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It has a lower cpu/pg since it is not fitted for the cloak.
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The Master Race
Immortal Guides
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Posted - 2014.11.20 16:42:00 -
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Blueprint For Murder
Immortal Guides
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Posted - 2014.11.20 16:42:00 -
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Myron Kundera
The Generals
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Posted - 2014.11.20 16:52:00 -
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Blueprint For Murder wrote:You guys remember playing rock paper scissors as a kid? Fun and games of course we all had that one friend that would be like rock paper scissors: tornado (tornado beats everything(of course)) and despite the unavoidable folly that would soon follow you would take a moment to try to explain to him how the game works. Well CCP I think you might be that kid or at least you let him run the show. The counter for scouts are other scouts and advanced drop ships counters are other advanced drop ships (if only scouts could fly) yet you guys don't seem to find an issue with it. To many of us this is a game breaking problem while I like playing my scout it lacks any kind of challenge and the other classes are a frustrating mess because most of your players are now primary scout). This got me thinking about the feedback you receive on the forums and the balance changes you're making they are all pointless. You guys are ignoring the problems instead of balancing the game you are balancing around the issues which can only multiply the problems and require another rounds of balancing once you finally do fix them. I mean you are now balancing weapons off scouts alone because they are the bottom line which leaves any other suit that uses light weaponry wanting, because with out the same capabilities of a scout the weapon can not hope to preform as intended or vise versa. The only way to fix this issue is to make scouts side arms only so that each suit can be balanced properly and isolating any issues. When it comes to advanced drop ships I am at a loss really but something that would be pretty amazing is this: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=176744&find=unread . If you guys would like to read more from The Master race check out the links below: New heavy weapon: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=176867&find=unreadBiotics enhancements: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=177028
Scouts should keep the Light weapon slot, but definetively lose the sidearm. I have no problems with DS, i just shoot swarms to them and they die or run, which works fine for me.
"Greed, the forgotten mental disease"
"Spray and pray makes my day"
"Will use proto gear in self defense"
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Blueprint For Murder
Immortal Guides
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Posted - 2014.11.20 20:24:00 -
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You should really read the threads you post in before you post. Yea this is an old thread from when ads were gods and if you read it you will see why scouts can not be balanced with a light weapon.
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