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Right-wing Extremist Nos Nothi 1431	Posted - 2014.09.30 19:19:00 - [1] - Quote Care to explain this, Rattati? Every other MLT weapon is identical to the STD in all aspects except fitting cost, so why is the MLT knife different? Jaceon Pale-eye. And you shall know me by the sound of Charge SR bullets whizzing by your head as I miss repeatedly.
Atiim 12626	Posted - 2014.09.30 19:27:00 - [2] - Quote Are the charge times different? The 1st Matari Commando -HAND
Kaeru Nayiri Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic 54	Posted - 2014.09.30 19:52:00 - [3] - Quote That's really strange, every other weapon is identical when comparing STD and MLT, why would the damage be lower? Maybe because there is no clip to shorten? I'd honestly rather see a longer charge up time then less damage. :(
Right-wing Extremist Nos Nothi 1433	Posted - 2014.09.30 20:28:00 - [4] - Quote Atiim wrote: Are the charge times different? Oh, and along with increased CPU/PG, MLT Weapons also have significantly reduced clip sizes along with reload speed. Same charge. Less damage, higher fitting requirements. Damage should be same, with longer charge - like MLT Forge iirc Jaceon Pale-eye. And you shall know me by the sound of Charge SR bullets whizzing by your head as I miss repeatedly.
Banjo Robertson Evzones Public.Disorder. 277	Posted - 2014.10.01 00:56:00 - [5] - Quote Longer charge would kill the effectiveness of the MTL knifes more than lower damage does.
Fizzer XCIV Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire 363	Posted - 2014.10.01 01:45:00 - [6] - Quote Militia weapons aren't meant to be very effective. If you thought that the sidearm event was going to be easy for you Knifers, you were wrong. And yeah, an increased charge time would make it even worse.
Atiim 12631	Posted - 2014.10.01 01:45:00 - [7] - Quote Right-wing Extremist wrote: Atiim wrote: Are the charge times different? Oh, and along with increased CPU/PG, MLT Weapons also have significantly reduced clip sizes along with reload speed. Same charge. Less damage, higher fitting requirements. Damage should be same, with longer charge - like MLT Forge iirc MLT Forge Gun has increased reload times, and 3 rounds instead of 4. Like the lock on Swarm Launchers, their charge time is the same as the STD and other variants. Just be glad that they went with lower damage as opposed to higher charging time. The 1st Matari Commando -HAND
Right-wing Extremist Nos Nothi 1434	Posted - 2014.10.01 01:48:00 - [8] - Quote Fizzer XCIV wrote: Militia weapons aren't meant to be very effective. If you thought that the sidearm event was going to be easy for you Knifers, you were wrong. And yeah, an increased charge time would make it even worse. Nah, it's just going to be easy for the bolt pistol guys - weapon is identical to the STD in everything except fitting costs. Jaceon Pale-eye. And you shall know me by the sound of Charge SR bullets whizzing by your head as I miss repeatedly.
Atiim 12631	Posted - 2014.10.01 01:49:00 - [9] - Quote Right-wing Extremist wrote: Fizzer XCIV wrote: Militia weapons aren't meant to be very effective. If you thought that the sidearm event was going to be easy for you Knifers, you were wrong. And yeah, an increased charge time would make it even worse. Nah, it's just going to be easy for the bolt pistol guys - weapon is identical to the STD in everything except fitting costs. I hate to flog a dead horse, but the MLT Bolt Pistol has 3 rounds, as opposed to 4. The 1st Matari Commando -HAND
Right-wing Extremist Nos Nothi 1434	Posted - 2014.10.01 02:33:00 - [10] - Quote Atiim wrote: Right-wing Extremist wrote: Fizzer XCIV wrote: Militia weapons aren't meant to be very effective. If you thought that the sidearm event was going to be easy for you Knifers, you were wrong. And yeah, an increased charge time would make it even worse. Nah, it's just going to be easy for the bolt pistol guys - weapon is identical to the STD in everything except fitting costs. I hate to flog a dead horse, but the MLT Bolt Pistol has 3 rounds, as opposed to 4. Who ever needed 4 rounds to kill with a post-Delta Bolt Pistol? Jaceon Pale-eye. And you shall know me by the sound of Charge SR bullets whizzing by your head as I miss repeatedly.

Broonfondle Majikthies Dogs of War Gaming 1329	Posted - 2014.10.01 02:40:00 - [11] - Quote I imagine its because we all complained in the past that the standard knives were useless because of the charge time. Therefore they wanted the militia to be limited but still serviceable and so lowered the damage instead. Also bear in mind there isn't exactly a lot of parameters they could have changed compared to every other weapon. "The air smells damp and oppressive, like a wet nun" "Why am I talking to a lightbulb? Illuminate me"
Atiim 12632	Posted - 2014.10.01 02:52:00 - [12] - Quote Right-wing Extremist wrote: Atiim wrote: Right-wing Extremist wrote: Fizzer XCIV wrote: Militia weapons aren't meant to be very effective. If you thought that the sidearm event was going to be easy for you Knifers, you were wrong. And yeah, an increased charge time would make it even worse. Nah, it's just going to be easy for the bolt pistol guys - weapon is identical to the STD in everything except fitting costs. I hate to flog a dead horse, but the MLT Bolt Pistol has 3 rounds, as opposed to 4. Who ever needed 4 rounds to kill with a post-Delta Bolt Pistol? People who're fighting someone who actually knows how to strafe & jump? The 1st Matari Commando -HAND
Right-wing Extremist Nos Nothi 1434	Posted - 2014.10.01 02:59:00 - [13] - Quote Strafe and jump? That's what I'm sposed to do? :( Shotty, you never told me this. Jaceon Pale-eye. And you shall know me by the sound of Charge SR bullets whizzing by your head as I miss repeatedly.
Vyzion Eyri The Southern Legion Final Resolution. 2486	Posted - 2014.10.01 03:03:00 - [14] - Quote Right-wing Extremist wrote: Fizzer XCIV wrote: Militia weapons aren't meant to be very effective. If you thought that the sidearm event was going to be easy for you Knifers, you were wrong. And yeah, an increased charge time would make it even worse. Nah, it's just going to be easy for the bolt pistol guys - weapon is identical to the STD in everything except fitting costs. If everyone is using the same weapon it's hardly easier for one weapon group. This just means Bolt Pistol gunslingers need more kills than Nova knife ninjas. > Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

CCP Rattati C C P C C P Alliance 8346	Posted - 2014.10.01 13:24:00 - [15] - Quote We couldn't reduce ammo, and felt that charge time increase was worse than damage reduction or range reduction. It's only 20 less, get a couple of sidearm dmg mods and you will be fine. "As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"

KEROSIINI-TERO The Rainbow Effect 1322	Posted - 2014.10.01 14:17:00 - [16] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: We couldn't reduce ammo, and felt that charge time increase was worse than damage reduction or range reduction. It's only 20 less, get a couple of sidearm dmg mods and you will be fine. ...Sidearm damage mod works for Nova Knife O_o That's new info to me. People would enjoy Dust a lot more if they accepted the fact that EVERYTHING is subject to change
Atiim 12635	Posted - 2014.10.01 14:30:00 - [17] - Quote KEROSIINI-TERO wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: We couldn't reduce ammo, and felt that charge time increase was worse than damage reduction or range reduction. It's only 20 less, get a couple of sidearm dmg mods and you will be fine. ...Sidearm damage mod works for Nova Knife O_o That's new info to me. What made you think it wouldn't work? The 1st Matari Commando -HAND
Right-wing Extremist Nos Nothi 1447	Posted - 2014.10.01 19:34:00 - [18] - Quote KEROSIINI-TERO wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: We couldn't reduce ammo, and felt that charge time increase was worse than damage reduction or range reduction. It's only 20 less, get a couple of sidearm dmg mods and you will be fine. ...Sidearm damage mod works for Nova Knife O_o That's new info to me. yeah, the assumption is usually that myofibrils are for knives, since they're melee weapons... not so. Jaceon Pale-eye. And you shall know me by the sound of Charge SR bullets whizzing by your head as I miss repeatedly.
Buwaro Draemon WarRavens Capital Punishment. 370	Posted - 2014.10.01 20:21:00 - [19] - Quote Right-wing Extremist wrote: KEROSIINI-TERO wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: We couldn't reduce ammo, and felt that charge time increase was worse than damage reduction or range reduction. It's only 20 less, get a couple of sidearm dmg mods and you will be fine. ...Sidearm damage mod works for Nova Knife O_o That's new info to me. yeah, the assumption is usually that myofibrils are for knives, since they're melee weapons... not so. Nova Knifes are side arm. So it's pretty obvious that side arm damage mods affect it. In Dust, there are no melee weapons except for when you smack someone with either gun or fist. Been here since Mordus Private Trials Closed Beta Vet under 30 million SP ;-;
Cross Atu OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 3012	Posted - 2014.10.01 23:20:00 - [20] - Quote KEROSIINI-TERO wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: We couldn't reduce ammo, and felt that charge time increase was worse than damage reduction or range reduction. It's only 20 less, get a couple of sidearm dmg mods and you will be fine. ...Sidearm damage mod works for Nova Knife O_o That's new info to me. And the truth shall set you free See a cool idea thread? Mail me the title and I'll take a look =)

Aeon Amadi Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 6595	Posted - 2014.10.02 00:54:00 - [21] - Quote Right-wing Extremist wrote: KEROSIINI-TERO wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: We couldn't reduce ammo, and felt that charge time increase was worse than damage reduction or range reduction. It's only 20 less, get a couple of sidearm dmg mods and you will be fine. ...Sidearm damage mod works for Nova Knife O_o That's new info to me. yeah, the assumption is usually that myofibrils are for knives, since they're melee weapons... not so. Nope. Pro-tip though, clicking 'R3' with nova knives in hand will not give you any increased damage than your normal melee despite there being a knife in your hand. Myrofibrils -will- work in this case for increased damage though, but not for your charge/non-charged swipes. { \| bittervetmode = 1 I } == Description == This player has reached their breaking point [[Category: Angry]]
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 9618	Posted - 2014.10.02 01:31:00 - [22] - Quote Fizzer XCIV wrote: Militia weapons aren't meant to be very effective. If you thought that the sidearm event was going to be easy for you Knifers, you were wrong. And yeah, an increased charge time would make it even worse. It's still relatively easy for me. Don't forget, I was trained by Shaolin Monks for 2 years on how to handle nova knives while balancing on a 20-foot pole with one leg, and holding a cup of oolong tea with the other leg, all while being attacked by rabid lemurs. On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
KEROSIINI-TERO The Rainbow Effect 1324	Posted - 2014.10.02 01:48:00 - [23] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: Right-wing Extremist wrote: KEROSIINI-TERO wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: We couldn't reduce ammo, and felt that charge time increase was worse than damage reduction or range reduction. It's only 20 less, get a couple of sidearm dmg mods and you will be fine. ...Sidearm damage mod works for Nova Knife O_o That's new info to me. yeah, the assumption is usually that myofibrils are for knives, since they're melee weapons... not so. Nope. Pro-tip though, clicking 'R3' with nova knives in hand will not give you any increased damage than your normal melee despite there being a knife in your hand. Myrofibrils -will- work in this case for increased damage though, but not for your charge/non-charged swipes. How dull. People would enjoy Dust a lot more if they accepted the fact that EVERYTHING is subject to change


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