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CharacterNameWasTaken G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 94	Posted - 2014.09.27 14:10:00 - [1] - Quote Scouts with rifles needs to be changed. Now dont get angry and ask me if i am a scout because i am. My proposal is take the light weapon slot away from all but minnie scouts. Why? Because sidearms are in a good place now and i dont think scouts should be the slayers they are anymore. If you want to slay get an assault suit. Since i downloaded hf delta ive seen a rise yet again in scrubs that want to ruin the scouts role because they are still overpowered in every way. Sure buffing assaults might get people to use them but scouts are still preferred over assaults. So please make the acout dual sidearm only.
Vulpes Dolosus Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 2153	Posted - 2014.09.27 14:16:00 - [2] - Quote A better approach would be to nerf every weapon a little and give fitting/damage/range/etc bonuses to each of the suit classes to their respective weapon class. This will make so that each class can still use other weapons (bar heavy weapons) but they are more effective on the classes they're meant for. For example: give scouts a fitting, damage, and range bonuse to side arms to make them almost as good as lights. Dust was real! I was there!
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 16818	Posted - 2014.09.27 14:16:00 - [3] - Quote So what about snipers? Mobile scout/sniper game play has been rising in delta because the ability to find and destroy heavy camping snipers are more than possible with two lucky shots at most and never a mag of hits now. CPM 1 Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior \\= Prototype Sniper Rifles =// Unlocked
CharacterNameWasTaken G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 94	Posted - 2014.09.27 14:21:00 - [4] - Quote Vulpes Dolosus wrote: A better approach would be to nerf every weapon a little and give fitting/damage/range/etc bonuses to each of the suit classes to their respective weapon class. This will make so that each class can still use other weapons (bar heavy weapons) but they are more effective on the classes they're meant for. For example: give scouts a fitting, damage, and range bonuse to side arms to make them almost as good as lights. Well iws what about this one.^
CharacterNameWasTaken G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 94	Posted - 2014.09.27 14:24:00 - [5] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: So what about snipers? Mobile scout/sniper game play has been rising in delta because the ability to find and destroy heavy camping snipers are more than possible with two lucky shots at most and never a mag of hits now. or they could use minnie scouts thats why i put in all but minnie scouts.
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 16818	Posted - 2014.09.27 14:40:00 - [6] - Quote CharacterNameWasTaken wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: So what about snipers? Mobile scout/sniper game play has been rising in delta because the ability to find and destroy heavy camping snipers are more than possible with two lucky shots at most and never a mag of hits now. or they could use minnie scouts thats why i put in all but minnie scouts. So... Caldari Sniper Rifles on Opposing Faction'ed Minmatar? CPM 1 Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior \\= Prototype Sniper Rifles =// Unlocked
taxi bastard Vengeance Unbound Dark Taboo 268	Posted - 2014.09.27 14:43:00 - [7] - Quote CharacterNameWasTaken wrote: Scouts with rifles needs to be changed. Now dont get angry and ask me if i am a scout because i am. My proposal is take the light weapon slot away from all but minnie scouts. Why? Because sidearms are in a good place now and i dont think scouts should be the slayers they are anymore. If you want to slay get an assault suit. Since i downloaded hf delta ive seen a rise yet again in scrubs that want to ruin the scouts role because they are still overpowered in every way. Sure buffing assaults might get people to use them but scouts are still preferred over assaults. So please make the acout dual sidearm only. I use scout and commando as my primary suits - heavy and assault as secondary. I disagree - my mini commando I find a lot stronger in combat but solo its a lot more of a risk obviously. ill set uplinks and hack with my mini and now galltente scout and engage in combat if I am in an advantageous situation. if my link is down ill change out to either the assault or dren sentinel. scouts big plus is that they suit solo play, if I am in a squad besides the start of the battle Ill run every suit but scout.
CharacterNameWasTaken G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 94	Posted - 2014.09.27 14:43:00 - [8] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: CharacterNameWasTaken wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: So what about snipers? Mobile scout/sniper game play has been rising in delta because the ability to find and destroy heavy camping snipers are more than possible with two lucky shots at most and never a mag of hits now. or they could use minnie scouts thats why i put in all but minnie scouts. So... Caldari Sniper Rifles on Opposing Faction'ed Minmatar? um no caldari has nothing against minmatar its the gallente they hate.
CharacterNameWasTaken G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 94	Posted - 2014.09.27 14:45:00 - [9] - Quote taxi bastard wrote: CharacterNameWasTaken wrote: Scouts with rifles needs to be changed. Now dont get angry and ask me if i am a scout because i am. My proposal is take the light weapon slot away from all but minnie scouts. Why? Because sidearms are in a good place now and i dont think scouts should be the slayers they are anymore. If you want to slay get an assault suit. Since i downloaded hf delta ive seen a rise yet again in scrubs that want to ruin the scouts role because they are still overpowered in every way. Sure buffing assaults might get people to use them but scouts are still preferred over assaults. So please make the acout dual sidearm only. I use scout and commando as my primary suits - heavy and assault as secondary. I disagree - my mini commando I find a lot stronger in combat but solo its a lot more of a risk obviously. ill set uplinks and hack with my mini and now galltente scout and engage in combat if I am in an advantageous situation. if my link is down ill change out to either the assault or dren sentinel. scouts big plus is that they suit solo play, if I am in a squad besides the start of the battle Ill run every suit but scout. but unlike me you have other suits when you run scout all day every day youll see what i mean. I also forgot try to run dual sidearm scouts all day.
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 16819	Posted - 2014.09.27 14:49:00 - [10] - Quote CharacterNameWasTaken wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: CharacterNameWasTaken wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: So what about snipers? Mobile scout/sniper game play has been rising in delta because the ability to find and destroy heavy camping snipers are more than possible with two lucky shots at most and never a mag of hits now. or they could use minnie scouts thats why i put in all but minnie scouts. So... Caldari Sniper Rifles on Opposing Faction'ed Minmatar? um no caldari has nothing against minmatar its the gallente they hate. Uhm Caldari and Amarr are allied. Caldari has legal Slavery still (even their own people), they treat the free minmatar like the chinese workforce, cheap and disposable with no need to educate or insure. If anything caldari do nothing but ultimately help the enslaved minmatar and their plights if anything support it further enslavement with technology trades to ammar such as inventory tracking and security measures and better overseer tech. CPM 1 Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior \\= Prototype Sniper Rifles =// Unlocked

TechMechMeds KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 6072	Posted - 2014.09.27 15:01:00 - [11] - Quote Just forget about it. It's scouts 514. "Never say never, and only answer the questions you wish you were asked".
CommanderBolt KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 1791	Posted - 2014.09.27 15:02:00 - [12] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: CharacterNameWasTaken wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: CharacterNameWasTaken wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: So what about snipers? Mobile scout/sniper game play has been rising in delta because the ability to find and destroy heavy camping snipers are more than possible with two lucky shots at most and never a mag of hits now. or they could use minnie scouts thats why i put in all but minnie scouts. So... Caldari Sniper Rifles on Opposing Faction'ed Minmatar? um no caldari has nothing against minmatar its the gallente they hate. Uhm Caldari and Amarr are allied. Caldari has legal Slavery still (even their own people), they treat the free minmatar like the chinese workforce, cheap and disposable with no need to educate or insure. If anything caldari do nothing but ultimately help the enslaved minmatar and their plights if anything support it further enslavement with technology trades to ammar such as inventory tracking and security measures and better overseer tech. Caldari and Amarr are scumbags, The Gallente and the Minmatar are scumbags, what ever was left on the Terran side of the wormhole to New Eden was probably scumbags too. "Also I think knives are a good idea, big f**k-off shiny ones" "Guns for show, Knives for a pro" MY LIFE FOR AIUR!
Thumb Green Raymond James Corp 1555	Posted - 2014.09.27 15:03:00 - [13] - Quote I thought taking away the logi sidearm slot was stupid and I think taking away the scout light weapon slot is stupid. We don't kick ass, we kick dick and we kick it hard. Join us in our Pumpkin Crushing
John Psi Vacuum Cleaner. LLC Steel Balls Alliance 963	Posted - 2014.09.27 15:08:00 - [14] - Quote delay after decloak. check my sig. Please support fair play!
taxi bastard Vengeance Unbound Dark Taboo 268	Posted - 2014.09.27 15:12:00 - [15] - Quote CharacterNameWasTaken wrote: taxi bastard wrote: CharacterNameWasTaken wrote: Scouts with rifles needs to be changed. Now dont get angry and ask me if i am a scout because i am. My proposal is take the light weapon slot away from all but minnie scouts. Why? Because sidearms are in a good place now and i dont think scouts should be the slayers they are anymore. If you want to slay get an assault suit. Since i downloaded hf delta ive seen a rise yet again in scrubs that want to ruin the scouts role because they are still overpowered in every way. Sure buffing assaults might get people to use them but scouts are still preferred over assaults. So please make the acout dual sidearm only. I use scout and commando as my primary suits - heavy and assault as secondary. I disagree - my mini commando I find a lot stronger in combat but solo its a lot more of a risk obviously. ill set uplinks and hack with my mini and now galltente scout and engage in combat if I am in an advantageous situation. if my link is down ill change out to either the assault or dren sentinel. scouts big plus is that they suit solo play, if I am in a squad besides the start of the battle Ill run every suit but scout. but unlike me you have other suits when you run scout all day every day youll see what i mean. I also forgot try to run dual sidearm scouts all day. I play a lot of scout - as mostly I play solo in either my scout or commando suit. i really do not understand your reasoning being for taking away rifles? side arms are better so what? if you argued for a slight PG nerf to all but mini scouts and an increase in CPU i may be with you as then there would be less tanking. real scouts will run 2 ewar mods on a basic suit and 3 on a advanced on average which leaves them at 1/2 to 1/4rd of EHP compared to their assault/logi equivalent and a PG nerf will not affect them playing as they wish.
Meisterjager Jagermeister Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire 351	Posted - 2014.09.27 15:47:00 - [16] - Quote I understand your point, scouts have replaced HMG as the bane of my game (but it doesn't bother me as much because it takes skill to run scout) But what about the shotgun? No light weapon means no shotgun, the signature weapon for scouts. AKA - StarVenger
Mexxx Dust-Slayer Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 22	Posted - 2014.09.27 16:15:00 - [17] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: CharacterNameWasTaken wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: So what about snipers? Mobile scout/sniper game play has been rising in delta because the ability to find and destroy heavy camping snipers are more than possible with two lucky shots at most and never a mag of hits now. or they could use minnie scouts thats why i put in all but minnie scouts. So... Caldari Sniper Rifles on Opposing Faction'ed Minmatar? Oh like caldari knives on min scouts? Or swarms for min mando?
Operative 1125 Lokaas True Companion Planetary Requisitions 412	Posted - 2014.09.27 16:18:00 - [18] - Quote CharacterNameWasTaken wrote: Scouts with rifles needs to be changed. Now dont get angry and ask me if i am a scout because i am. My proposal is take the light weapon slot away from all but minnie scouts. Why? Because sidearms are in a good place now and i dont think scouts should be the slayers they are anymore. If you want to slay get an assault suit. Since i downloaded hf delta ive seen a rise yet again in scrubs that want to ruin the scouts role because they are still overpowered in every way. Sure buffing assaults might get people to use them but scouts are still preferred over assaults. So please make the acout dual sidearm only. Nope, because it is very unscrubby to snipe in a scout suit and also it is very unscrubby to flank with a tac AR in a scout suit. Nerf the cloak and nerf the slots then it will be fine. THIS IS THE VOICE OF RÁN
CharacterNameWasTaken G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 98	Posted - 2014.09.27 16:41:00 - [19] - Quote Meisterjager Jagermeister wrote: I understand your point, scouts have replaced HMG as the bane of my game (but it doesn't bother me as much because it takes skill to run scout) But what about the shotgun? No light weapon means no shotgun, the signature weapon for scouts. nowadays it doesnt take skill to run scouts with light weapons and about the sg its ny main weapon and i wouldnt care if i couldnt use it.
CharacterNameWasTaken G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 98	Posted - 2014.09.27 16:43:00 - [20] - Quote Operative 1125 Lokaas wrote: CharacterNameWasTaken wrote: Scouts with rifles needs to be changed. Now dont get angry and ask me if i am a scout because i am. My proposal is take the light weapon slot away from all but minnie scouts. Why? Because sidearms are in a good place now and i dont think scouts should be the slayers they are anymore. If you want to slay get an assault suit. Since i downloaded hf delta ive seen a rise yet again in scrubs that want to ruin the scouts role because they are still overpowered in every way. Sure buffing assaults might get people to use them but scouts are still preferred over assaults. So please make the acout dual sidearm only. Nope, because it is very unscrubby to snipe in a scout suit and also it is very unscrubby to flank with a tac AR in a scout suit. Nerf the cloak and nerf the slots then it will be fine. wow only 2 weapon you can think of huh its also unscrubby to run dual sidearms but how many people do you see doing that?

Joel II X Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 3655	Posted - 2014.09.27 16:50:00 - [21] - Quote Why take away lights from every frame except Minmatar? If anything, it should be Amarr that keep their Light Weapon Slot. Anywho, I disagree with anything trying to make scouts slayers. Scouts ate supposed to be an information build that requires EWAR. Let's keep it that way. Assaults with rifles are better slayers than scouts of they have racial gear and good spacial awareness, or at least are better at handling light weaponry than scouts are. The only scout that gets a weapon bonus is the Minmatar with the knife bonus.
Mobius Kaethis Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1893	Posted - 2014.09.27 17:02:00 - [22] - Quote I honestly would love it if we got rid of the whole light, heavy, side-arm designation system since it restricts the sandbox that is the fitting system. Instead what I would like to see is a system of bonuses and penalties for using weapons that fit the theme of a given suit. I realize that this is a confusing statement so let me explain further with examples. Lets take the HMG for our first example. The HMG is a weapon designed for heavies and as such they would get to use it with its current stats. Medium frames fitting HMGs would have a 20% fitting penalty (meaning the fitting costs of the HMG for both PG and CPU would be 120% of the standard numbers) and a -25% movement speed penalty applied to them. Light frames that choose to fit HMGs would have major penalties, a 50% fitting penalty and a 40% penalty to movement. Light weapons would be normal to fit to medium frames, would incur CPU and PG penalties to Heavy frames (25% perhaps) and a handling penalty (+20% dispersion), and would incur lighter fitting penalties to light frames (15%) and a slight movement penalty (20%). Side-arms that are fitted to medium frames would have the 20% fitting penalty and a weapon switching speed penalty. Heavy frames that fit side-arms would have a 40% fitting penalty and a larger weapon switching speed penalty. Please note that under this system weapon slots would not be designated as heavy, medium, light but would just be open weapon slots. Now with more evil.
CharacterNameWasTaken G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 98	Posted - 2014.09.27 17:24:00 - [23] - Quote Mobius Kaethis wrote: I honestly would love it if we got rid of the whole light, heavy, side-arm designation system since it restricts the sandbox that is the fitting system. Instead what I would like to see is a system of bonuses and penalties for using weapons that fit the theme of a given suit. I realize that this is a confusing statement so let me explain further with examples. Lets take the HMG for our first example. The HMG is a weapon designed for heavies and as such they would get to use it with its current stats. Medium frames fitting HMGs would have a 20% fitting penalty (meaning the fitting costs of the HMG for both PG and CPU would be 120% of the standard numbers) and a -25% movement speed penalty applied to them. Light frames that choose to fit HMGs would have major penalties, a 50% fitting penalty and a 40% penalty to movement. Light weapons would be normal to fit to medium frames, would incur CPU and PG penalties to Heavy frames (25% perhaps) and a handling penalty (+20% dispersion), and would incur lighter fitting penalties to light frames (15%) and a slight movement penalty (20%). Side-arms that are fitted to medium frames would have the 20% fitting penalty and a weapon switching speed penalty. Heavy frames that fit side-arms would have a 40% fitting penalty and a larger weapon switching speed penalty. Please note that under this system weapon slots would not be designated as heavy, medium, light but would just be open weapon slots. i like this one its thought out and practical.
Crimson ShieId Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 952	Posted - 2014.09.27 17:24:00 - [24] - Quote CharacterNameWasTaken wrote: Scouts with rifles needs to be changed. Now dont get angry and ask me if i am a scout because i am. My proposal is take the light weapon slot away from all but minnie scouts. Why? Because sidearms are in a good place now and i dont think scouts should be the slayers they are anymore. If you want to slay get an assault suit. Since i downloaded hf delta ive seen a rise yet again in scrubs that want to ruin the scouts role because they are still overpowered in every way. Sure buffing assaults might get people to use them but scouts are still preferred over assaults. So please make the acout dual sidearm only. Oh, yay... now everyone runs the Minnie scout and people start calling that OP too. Guess I'll get tossed in with the rest of the FoTM. Nova Knives are best sidearm.
CharacterNameWasTaken G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 98	Posted - 2014.09.27 17:27:00 - [25] - Quote Joel II X wrote: Why take away lights from every frame except Minmatar? If anything, it should be Amarr that keep their Light Weapon Slot. Anywho, I disagree with anything trying to make scouts slayers. Scouts ate supposed to be an information build that requires EWAR. Let's keep it that way. Assaults with rifles are better slayers than scouts of they have racial gear and good spacial awareness, or at least are better at handling light weaponry than scouts are. The only scout that gets a weapon bonus is the Minmatar with the knife bonus. i said the min would keep its light weapon because its not a slayer so a light weapon could compensate and no other scout would have one.
Alena Ventrallis Vengeance Unbound Dark Taboo 1819	Posted - 2014.09.27 17:33:00 - [26] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: So what about snipers? Mobile scout/sniper game play has been rising in delta because the ability to find and destroy heavy camping snipers are more than possible with two lucky shots at most and never a mag of hits now. Basic light frames retain their light weapon slot. Scout suits have 2 sidearms. This allows people to scout snipe, but without the aid of a cloak. Listen to my muscle memory Contemplate what I've been clinging to Forty-six and two ahead of me
DDx77 ICE-9 PROJECT 3	Posted - 2014.09.27 19:15:00 - [27] - Quote Mobius Kaethis wrote: I honestly would love it if we got rid of the whole light, heavy, side-arm designation system since it restricts the sandbox that is the fitting system. Instead what I would like to see is a system of bonuses and penalties for using weapons that fit the theme of a given suit. I realize that this is a confusing statement so let me explain further with examples. Lets take the HMG for our first example. The HMG is a weapon designed for heavies and as such they would get to use it with its current stats. Medium frames fitting HMGs would have a 20% fitting penalty (meaning the fitting costs of the HMG for both PG and CPU would be 120% of the standard numbers) and a -25% movement speed penalty applied to them. Light frames that choose to fit HMGs would have major penalties, a 50% fitting penalty and a 40% penalty to movement. Light weapons would be normal to fit to medium frames, would incur CPU and PG penalties to Heavy frames (25% perhaps) and a handling penalty (+20% dispersion), and would incur lighter fitting penalties to light frames (15%) and a slight movement penalty (20%). Side-arms that are fitted to medium frames would have the 20% fitting penalty and a weapon switching speed penalty. Heavy frames that fit side-arms would have a 40% fitting penalty and a larger weapon switching speed penalty. Please note that under this system weapon slots would not be designated as heavy, medium, light but would just be open weapon slots. This is probably the best idea. An alternative might be (as previously suggested) inflict a CPU and PG penalty to scouts/ light frames using light weapons. You could then add a CPU/ PG buff to scouts/ light frames using sidearm weapons
Syeven Reed Sebiestor Field Sappers 884	Posted - 2014.09.27 19:17:00 - [28] - Quote Im primarily a scout, and id be totally fine with this. Sidearms are now in a good enough place for this to work. Word Crimes EvE - 21 Day Buddy Trial
Maiden selena MORTIMOR Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 226	Posted - 2014.09.27 19:22:00 - [29] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: CharacterNameWasTaken wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: CharacterNameWasTaken wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: So what about snipers? Mobile scout/sniper game play has been rising in delta because the ability to find and destroy heavy camping snipers are more than possible with two lucky shots at most and never a mag of hits now. or they could use minnie scouts thats why i put in all but minnie scouts. So... Caldari Sniper Rifles on Opposing Faction'ed Minmatar? um no caldari has nothing against minmatar its the gallente they hate. Uhm Caldari and Amarr are allied. Caldari has legal Slavery still (even their own people), they treat the free minmatar like the chinese workforce, cheap and disposable with no need to educate or insure. If anything caldari do nothing but ultimately help the enslaved minmatar and their plights if anything support it further enslavement with technology trades to ammar such as inventory tracking and security measures and better overseer tech. Lol awesome 2 1/2 years of playing dust n I didn't get this lol ...wish there was some lore demo in this game ....for those of us that prefer games like dust and thus don't play eve no im not a mortedeamor alt..im her slave When my master is banned I represent her wishes and that of the Mortimor famil
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 9565	Posted - 2014.09.27 19:24:00 - [30] - Quote I'm still not sure about this and I'm still uncomfortable around this idea. But then again, that Bolt Pistol is looking pretty beast right now. On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.

Eruditus 920 Prodigy Ops 487	Posted - 2014.09.27 20:18:00 - [31] - Quote I am against anything that restricts my freedom to create fits. The plethora of choices when creating fits is one of the strengths of this game. Anyone arguing to limit this, such as our OP, has an agenda. Don't like that scout with a rifle? Create a fit to counter it. That's what said freedom allows for. See how that works? Wisdom is what you gain after you need it.
postapo wastelander Wasteland Desert Rangers 86	Posted - 2014.09.27 20:22:00 - [32] - Quote One of first for stalke...ehmm..scouts > DELAY AFTER DECLOAK Easy "The human being was not chosen to be a god..the god himself should become a human being."
Eruditus 920 Prodigy Ops 487	Posted - 2014.09.27 20:31:00 - [33] - Quote postapo wastelander wrote: One of first for stalke...ehmm..scouts > DELAY AFTER DECLOAK Easy Eh boyo? Meh, boyo. Wisdom is what you gain after you need it.
Louis Domi Pradox One Proficiency V. 675	Posted - 2014.09.27 20:37:00 - [34] - Quote Why just Minmatar get to keep the light weapon slot? Let us keep snipers and give a racial scout skill for side arm(like rof increase or clip size, etc...depending on race) and a general scout skill for snipers, in addition to the skills we have now. Then maybe just maybe we'll think about it.
postapo wastelander Wasteland Desert Rangers 88	Posted - 2014.09.27 20:38:00 - [35] - Quote Eruditus 920 wrote: postapo wastelander wrote: One of first for stalke...ehmm..scouts > DELAY AFTER DECLOAK Easy Eh boyo? Meh, boyo. Ehmm boyo.. Yup boyo!! "The human being was not chosen to be a god..the god himself should become a human being."
Dreis Shadowweaver Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State 224	Posted - 2014.09.27 20:40:00 - [36] - Quote CharacterNameWasTaken wrote: Scouts with rifles needs to be changed. Now dont get angry and ask me if i am a scout because i am. My proposal is take the light weapon slot away from all but minnie scouts. Why? Because sidearms are in a good place now and i dont think scouts should be the slayers they are anymore. If you want to slay get an assault suit. Since i downloaded hf delta ive seen a rise yet again in scrubs that want to ruin the scouts role because they are still overpowered in every way. Sure buffing assaults might get people to use them but scouts are still preferred over assaults. So please make the acout dual sidearm only. Why should only Min Scouts keep the Light Weapon slot? Join the 'Nova Knifers United' channel I've only ever known 1.8... Caldari blood, Minmatar heart <3
Dreis Shadowweaver Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State 224	Posted - 2014.09.27 20:46:00 - [37] - Quote CharacterNameWasTaken wrote: Joel II X wrote: Why take away lights from every frame except Minmatar? If anything, it should be Amarr that keep their Light Weapon Slot. Anywho, I disagree with anything trying to make scouts slayers. Scouts ate supposed to be an information build that requires EWAR. Let's keep it that way. Assaults with rifles are better slayers than scouts of they have racial gear and good spacial awareness, or at least are better at handling light weaponry than scouts are. The only scout that gets a weapon bonus is the Minmatar with the knife bonus. i said the min would keep its light weapon because its not a slayer so a light weapon could compensate and no other scout would have one. You make it sound like the Min Scout is a bad suit. You think you can't slay in a Min Scout? Just yesterday, I went 26/2 in a Skirmish. If you suggest taking the Light Weapon slot away from scouts, you should take them away from ALL scouts. Join the 'Nova Knifers United' channel I've only ever known 1.8... Caldari blood, Minmatar heart <3
Zindorak G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 1005	Posted - 2014.09.27 20:48:00 - [38] - Quote No i like my rifle it lets my scout be an infiltration unit. Pokemon master! Death to all Swarm scrubs CCP please buff AScR and normal AR :(
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 16836	Posted - 2014.09.27 21:13:00 - [39] - Quote All basic frames needs to be deleted. The only light frame that should be sidearms only are Covert Ops / Recon at 2 sidearm 0 grenades and 3 equipment and Pilot at 1 sidearm and 2 equipment with massive fitting bonus for vehicle link. CPM 1 Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior \\= Prototype Sniper Rifles =// Unlocked
postapo wastelander Wasteland Desert Rangers 93	Posted - 2014.09.27 21:15:00 - [40] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: All basic frames needs to be deleted. The only light frame that should be sidearms only are Covert Ops / Recon at 2 sidearm 0 grenades and 3 equipment and Pilot at 1 sidearm and 2 equipment with massive fitting bonus for vehicle link. Thats mean we will hev pilot suit in future here ?! "The human being was not chosen to be a god..the god himself should become a human being."

Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 16839	Posted - 2014.09.27 21:21:00 - [41] - Quote postapo wastelander wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: All basic frames needs to be deleted. The only light frame that should be sidearms only are Covert Ops / Recon at 2 sidearm 0 grenades and 3 equipment and Pilot at 1 sidearm and 2 equipment with massive fitting bonus for vehicle link. Thats mean we will hev pilot suit in future here ?! No, just my wishes; I don't think there is a module that can work like that (attach to suit and it boosts vehicle it operates) CPM 1 Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior \\= Prototype Sniper Rifles =// Unlocked
DEZKA DIABLO THE FOOTCLAN 705	Posted - 2014.09.27 21:37:00 - [42] - Quote CharacterNameWasTaken wrote: Scouts with rifles needs to be changed. Now dont get angry and ask me if i am a scout because i am. My proposal is take the light weapon slot away from all but minnie scouts. Why? Because sidearms are in a good place now and i dont think scouts should be the slayers they are anymore. If you want to slay get an assault suit. Since i downloaded hf delta ive seen a rise yet again in scrubs that want to ruin the scouts role because they are still overpowered in every way. Sure buffing assaults might get people to use them but scouts are still preferred over assaults. So please make the acout dual sidearm only. Because i have 4 proto scouts and 6 proto rifles that'll go to waste, i love sg and the flaylock sucks, ion sucks and the scp and bp will get nerfed so honestly just give assault suits better ewar and another sidearm and call it a day. DONT EVER COMPLAIN, USE CAPS LOCK OR POINT OUT WHAT BROKEN WITH OUR GAME OR WE WILL DEFINITELY BAN YOUR ASS FOR 6 MONTHS
hold that Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic 277	Posted - 2014.09.27 21:48:00 - [43] - Quote wearing cloak should decrease scout suit's inherent precision bonus
Happy Violentime OMFGZOMBIESRUN 818	Posted - 2014.09.27 22:57:00 - [44] - Quote CharacterNameWasTaken wrote: Scouts with rifles needs to be changed. Now dont get angry and ask me if i am a scout because i am. My proposal is take the light weapon slot away from all but minnie scouts. Why? Because sidearms are in a good place now and i dont think scouts should be the slayers they are anymore. If you want to slay get an assault suit. Since i downloaded hf delta ive seen a rise yet again in scrubs that want to ruin the scouts role because they are still overpowered in every way. Sure buffing assaults might get people to use them but scouts are still preferred over assaults. So please make the acout dual sidearm only. Scouts? Lol my Prof 5 bolt pistol 1 shots every sxout.
Black SlaverX Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic 189	Posted - 2014.09.27 23:58:00 - [45] - Quote How come no one ever assk why in the world rifles are so accurate while people are strafing full speed side to side? Watch your back because I might be there.
Mex-0 G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 66	Posted - 2014.09.28 00:00:00 - [46] - Quote NOOOO! MY BOUNDLESS CR!!!!! Dedicated Scout and Scrambler Rifle Specialist.


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