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XxGhazbaranxX Eternal Beings Dark Taboo 1721	Posted - 2014.09.24 22:54:00 - [1] - Quote Hello, Plasma Cannon speed is great but, that ark needs to come back. The trajectory removal completely breaks some of the aspects that really helps the Plasma Cannon against vehicles and infantry. apart from hat all good. Plasma Cannon Advocate Dust 514 Survivor
Mobius Kaethis Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1844	Posted - 2014.09.24 22:59:00 - [2] - Quote XxGhazbaranxX wrote: Hello, Plasma Cannon speed is great but, that ark needs to come back. The trajectory removal completely breaks some of the aspects that really helps the Plasma Cannon against vehicles and infantry. apart from hat all good. Is it completely flat now (the arc) or is it simply that the same amount of drop occurs over a longer distance thanks to the faster projectile speed? Now with more evil.
XxGhazbaranxX Eternal Beings Dark Taboo 1721	Posted - 2014.09.24 23:01:00 - [3] - Quote Mobius Kaethis wrote: XxGhazbaranxX wrote: Hello, Plasma Cannon speed is great but, that ark needs to come back. The trajectory removal completely breaks some of the aspects that really helps the Plasma Cannon against vehicles and infantry. apart from hat all good. Is it completely flat now (the arc) or is it simply that the same amount of drop occurs over a longer distance thanks to the faster projectile speed? No ark, and if there is, it's completely unnoticeable Plasma Cannon Advocate Dust 514 Survivor
zzZaXxx Vengeance Unbound 579	Posted - 2014.09.24 23:46:00 - [4] - Quote The less arc the better. Point and shoot.
Pseudogenesis Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 573	Posted - 2014.09.25 00:16:00 - [5] - Quote There is an arc, it seems about half of what it used to be. Personally I think the QQ is ridiculous, I mean really. The plasma cannon is now better than it's ever been and you're complaining about the loss of one of its negatives? Stabby-stabber extraordinaire I stabbed Rattati once, you know.
XxGhazbaranxX Eternal Beings Dark Taboo 1721	Posted - 2014.09.25 02:06:00 - [6] - Quote zzZaXxx wrote: The less arc the better. Point and shoot. To be very honest I don't think you have ever used a plasma cannon. Even without the ark, it is by far, has never been and I hope never becomes, a point and shoot weapon. Less arc means that it loses it's potential against infantry and against targets that are on a higher plain than the PLC user. And just to be clear, the PLC is not meant to be used as an Anti-infantry weapon but the mere fact that it's possible to do so is the reason why it had/has so many drawbacks. Pseudogenesis wrote: There is an arc, it seems about half of what it used to be. Personally I think the QQ is ridiculous, I mean really. The plasma cannon is now better than it's ever been and you're complaining about the loss of one of its negatives? I tested the PLC in a couple of matches and The projectile starts to arc at about double the distance that it used to. At this distance, even with the speed increment to the projectile, the target can have moved left or right on a whim which is still a pain if you are leading your shot. Less ark means less strategic play and positioning when it comes to selecting targets. I have maxed out PLC tree and have been using PLC non-stop for ages. I know what I am talking about. Plasma Cannon Advocate Dust 514 Survivor

CCP Rattati C C P C C P Alliance 7956	Posted - 2014.09.25 03:18:00 - [7] - Quote XxGhazbaranxX wrote: zzZaXxx wrote: The less arc the better. Point and shoot. To be very honest I don't think you have ever used a plasma cannon. Even without the ark, it is by far, has never been and I hope never becomes, a point and shoot weapon. Less arc means that it loses it's potential against infantry and against targets that are on a higher plain than the PLC user. And just to be clear, the PLC is not meant to be used as an Anti-infantry weapon but the mere fact that it's possible to do so is the reason why it had/has so many drawbacks. Pseudogenesis wrote: There is an arc, it seems about half of what it used to be. Personally I think the QQ is ridiculous, I mean really. The plasma cannon is now better than it's ever been and you're complaining about the loss of one of its negatives? I tested the PLC in a couple of matches and The projectile starts to arc at about double the distance that it used to. At this distance, even with the speed increment to the projectile, the target can have moved left or right on a whim which is still a pain if you are leading your shot. Less ark means less strategic play and positioning when it comes to selecting targets. I have maxed out PLC tree and have been using PLC non-stop for ages. I know what I am talking about. We can increase the gravity on the projectile so it's pulled faster down to earth, that said, we want it to be a good weapon primarily "As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"

The Master Race Immortal Guides 41	Posted - 2014.09.25 04:39:00 - [8] - Quote Does the gk bonuses effect the plc at all? While I have some exp users here. New, delicious, Soylent green the miracle food of high-energy plankton gathered from the oceans of the world.
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution 7626	Posted - 2014.09.25 05:50:00 - [9] - Quote Hardcore Gallente Lover and Plasma Cannon Lover (I just don't have videos) I'm not sure what some people advocate the ark to be, harder to use, easier to use either one is a mute point as it's perfect as is. Just letting you know Rattati that there are other people that have used the plasma cannon since day 1 as well and I can honestly say I am now 100% happy with this weapon. I was so damn proud to be a Gallente Commando today I honestly got a little teary eyed when I blabbed that Python trying to kill my buddies from 139 meters with two shots. So damn proud I am 100% fine with Plasma Cannons as is. No Nerf, No Buff. I used the plasma Cannon in Planetary Conquest before as a humiliation tactic but now it's a full on viable role. Don't change a thing! Something's wrong when you regret Things that haven't happened yet
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 3139	Posted - 2014.09.25 06:46:00 - [10] - Quote I always found the arc to be a crap mechanic that made the weapon needlessly difficult to use. While the idea of a mortar shot is neat, I think there are better ways to implement that effect in much more useful ways. I like that the PLC has some reach now rather than being on my "how to make you feel like an idiot for dying" list.

CeeJ Mantis Mantodea MC 35	Posted - 2014.09.25 07:26:00 - [11] - Quote As someone who uses the PLC more than almost anyone out there, I can honestly say that I would refer to have a similar arc to it's previous incarnation. While many would say that it's ballistic trajectory was a fault, it was tactically useful in many situations, and it made it way more fun to use. I almost miss the old speed because it made the really great shots extra satisfying, but the new speed makes it way more viable. I've shot down quite a few dropships because they can't just casually move out of the way. Longest plasma cannon kill: 236.45m
Smoky Fingers Red Star. EoN. 454	Posted - 2014.09.25 07:55:00 - [12] - Quote Red Star's resident dual wield galmando plc expert/troll reporting in. The speed buff is welcome; its much easier to lead shots on derpships (about 50-100 m more further on avg than pre buff). Just add more gravity on the arc because right now theres very little guesswork and option when it comes to shot placement. I just defended point from tall tower node in bridge map after taking my first delta test fire shot. "A generic qoute on greatness" - Historical figure
TheD1CK Dead Man's Game 1259	Posted - 2014.09.25 07:55:00 - [13] - Quote Only few mercs have been critical of Plamsa changes, this is what happens when mercs ask 4 buffs Many have been using the Plasma a long time, and adapted to it's 'flaws'... others just kept QQing So this has a double effect, rewards the new users and punishes those used to it's mechanic The one thing I really miss is, sniping a sprinting infantry by firing 20m ahead in his path That moment of waiting for your projectile to hit the mark.... and dem ragdolls Rattati I like your changes to Dust but this is one that should have been a 'variant' But that said, the new feature takes away the old 'lead your target and pray' firing and replaced it with fingers on buzzers cannon fire... SpamCannon.. So While it does have combat uses, it is not the marksman weapon it was. In AV it is harder for a vehicle to dodge though aiming will take adjusting. So I can't give a solid opinion, because my own view is mixed.. I'm 50/50 over the 'new' PLC Though Rattati.. you have stepped into scared ground and before you go further I must clarify Plasma CANNON- It is a Cannon.. the old firing mechanic really suited that. Slow, arc, BOOM Plasma Launcher- This is what we have now, a SpamCannon (closer to the RPG mercs have cried for) So Yes while the Launcher can work.. it is just adding an EZ mode... And removes the old Risk Vs Reward of the old cannon.. Will need more time to consider changes CCP Just because something is tough to use does not make it UP and in need of 'changes' -BoltPistols -PlasmaCannons -ScrublerRifles Innapropriate Irrelevence... Welcome to the Dust Forum, hang around to see why everyone else left :/
RKKR The Southern Legion Final Resolution. 1033	Posted - 2014.09.25 08:57:00 - [14] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: we want it to be a good weapon primarily We can increase the gravity on the projectile so it's pulled faster down to earth, that said, we want it to be a good weapon primarily[/quote] What things about the PLC before hot fix delta didn't make it a good primary weapon? If you can't answer this question, you are basically just making random changes...it's not that most people refuse to use the weapon to it's potential that it is a weak weapon. (just look some stats of the last games I played last week since you don't seem to like anecdotical data ). IF you really wanted it to be a good weapon...you would START with looking at the hit detection problems that the PLC has or maybe it's just that you don't like ALL those anecdotical stories about this problem you seem to be ignoring. Or you might just aswell turn the PLC into a lock'n shoot weapon like the swarm . Anyway I'm curious about your answer above.
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 3139	Posted - 2014.09.25 09:48:00 - [15] - Quote The old variant was too depenent upon hours of trial and error to be functional and did not have any immediate useful utility. Tactically the plasma cannon makes no sense in it's pervious incarnation because it had little utility vs. Dropships and required suicide range to deploy. It existed only as a "Bragging rights" weapon, not a choice with tactical utility equal or approaching the Forge Gun, swarms, AV nades or even a Mass Driver. I oppose increasing the gravity on the projectile unless you do it for a single variant. We'll call it the breach. High damage suicide range. Rather like the breach forge: big hits, suicide charge times. But I'd like the PLC to be a bit easier to aim, not be reverted because people are feeling nostalgic for the hardmode. The previous PLC was a crap weapon because it was a niche weapon with a very small niche even if it was fun on occasion.
RKKR The Southern Legion Final Resolution. 1034	Posted - 2014.09.25 10:47:00 - [16] - Quote Breakin Stuff wrote: required suicide range to deploy. Also think about this: Easier to aim = no arc no arc = limited usability
Commander Noctus Gallente Loyalist 70	Posted - 2014.09.25 14:05:00 - [17] - Quote I say the Plasma Cannon is now in an extremely good position. Regarding arc, it IS still there, it's just that since the projectile is going so fast, it covers a larger distance before the arc begins. Besides that, I feel like the PLC is now just as viable as our other AV weapons. If anything should be changed about it, I'd say tune down the speed by a minute quantity, or add a TINY bit more arc. Otherwise, never touch this gun again.
CommanderBolt KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 1762	Posted - 2014.09.25 17:25:00 - [18] - Quote No way! It still arcs but it is so less extreme that it used to be. You can actually aim that thing more than 50meters. I am very happy with the way the PLC is now, bringing back more arcing would basically just remove the recent good that has happened to it. Besides this weapon is about shooting at infantry, tanks and dropships. Bringing back arcing like before would make hitting dropships even more of a pain that it is now. The increased projectile speed is great for many reasons. The PLC is honestly in a great place. PLC users will have to get used to the new feel of the weapon, but once they do its bloody great. Oh yea seriously the only problem the weapon has is the projectile hit detection issues. "Also I think knives are a good idea, big f**k-off shiny ones" "Guns for show, Knives for a pro" MY LIFE FOR AIUR!
el OPERATOR Capital Acquisitions LLC General Tso's Alliance 336	Posted - 2014.09.25 18:21:00 - [19] - Quote FML, you deployed delta a week too early, Rattati. RL issues have me NOT able to try and test your new rendition of my bff, the PLC, until next week most likely >.< CommanderBolt wrote: Oh yea seriously the only problem the weapon has is the projectile hit detection issues. Seriously, this is 99% of the only problem the PLC has ever had. Open-Beta Vet. Drunk Night Tree Burner. This is my Main and Original. DUST514 is WARFARE, not WAR-FAIR.
Kaeru Nayiri Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic 37	Posted - 2014.09.25 18:23:00 - [20] - Quote My opinion as a casual plasma cannon user: Keep everything as is, increase the gravity by 10% increments until most people are happy. (I'm guessing 20% more gravity will be the sweet spot) Certainly do not change the speed.

CeeJ Mantis Mantodea MC 36	Posted - 2014.09.25 18:31:00 - [21] - Quote Everyone keeps saying that the weapon has hit detection issues, but I haven't noticed any hit detection issues. It does exactly as I command it to. The splash is only hindered by surfaces that effect similar such things (like some surfaces where you throw a locus grenade and it doesn't do damage because it sinks into the geometry slightly) and it murders everything it touches. I still have to defend giving the projectile more arc. It feels too easy mode. Hitting people at 75 meters without having to adjust my aim feels wrong. It's just a generic rocket launcher from any game. Previously, the thing that made that weapon fun was when you got that kill when you knew it was gonna hit the second you started pulling the trigger, and 2 seconds later seeing the +50 points. It was SO satisfying. Even after killing thousands of people with it, I'd still shout in excitement. Now, that feeling is gone. While it's more effective, it's less fun, and that's disappointing. I'd almost say tone down the speed by 10-15m/s too, but the arc is more important. Longest plasma cannon kill: 236.45m
shagnasty91 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 2	Posted - 2014.09.26 23:05:00 - [22] - Quote I have played a few matches today with the pc to try to get a feel for it. Maybe wish it had a little more gravity than it does now. I have had quite a few direct hits that didnt register at all from different ranges. At least four were hits on stationary mercs that i know couldnt have been lag. I saw the explosion on the model but no health taken away should have been an insta kill on the scout anyway. Splash does not seem quite right either but that may just be me being paranoid.
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 3232	Posted - 2014.09.26 23:08:00 - [23] - Quote no more gravity ball.
Fizzer XCIV Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire 325	Posted - 2014.09.26 23:11:00 - [24] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: XxGhazbaranxX wrote: zzZaXxx wrote: The less arc the better. Point and shoot. To be very honest I don't think you have ever used a plasma cannon. Even without the ark, it is by far, has never been and I hope never becomes, a point and shoot weapon. Less arc means that it loses it's potential against infantry and against targets that are on a higher plain than the PLC user. And just to be clear, the PLC is not meant to be used as an Anti-infantry weapon but the mere fact that it's possible to do so is the reason why it had/has so many drawbacks. Pseudogenesis wrote: There is an arc, it seems about half of what it used to be. Personally I think the QQ is ridiculous, I mean really. The plasma cannon is now better than it's ever been and you're complaining about the loss of one of its negatives? I tested the PLC in a couple of matches and The projectile starts to arc at about double the distance that it used to. At this distance, even with the speed increment to the projectile, the target can have moved left or right on a whim which is still a pain if you are leading your shot. Less ark means less strategic play and positioning when it comes to selecting targets. I have maxed out PLC tree and have been using PLC non-stop for ages. I know what I am talking about. We can increase the gravity on the projectile so it's pulled faster down to earth, that said, we want it to be a good weapon primarily Idk if that's a good solution. Having it follow a non-newtonian path would really make if feel weird and more clunky than ever. Just make a new variant that has the drop and lower speed they used to, but with more damage.
Egonz4 DARKSTAR ARMY 435	Posted - 2014.09.27 00:38:00 - [25] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: XxGhazbaranxX wrote: zzZaXxx wrote: The less arc the better. Point and shoot. To be very honest I don't think you have ever used a plasma cannon. Even without the ark, it is by far, has never been and I hope never becomes, a point and shoot weapon. Less arc means that it loses it's potential against infantry and against targets that are on a higher plain than the PLC user. And just to be clear, the PLC is not meant to be used as an Anti-infantry weapon but the mere fact that it's possible to do so is the reason why it had/has so many drawbacks. Pseudogenesis wrote: There is an arc, it seems about half of what it used to be. Personally I think the QQ is ridiculous, I mean really. The plasma cannon is now better than it's ever been and you're complaining about the loss of one of its negatives? I tested the PLC in a couple of matches and The projectile starts to arc at about double the distance that it used to. At this distance, even with the speed increment to the projectile, the target can have moved left or right on a whim which is still a pain if you are leading your shot. Less ark means less strategic play and positioning when it comes to selecting targets. I have maxed out PLC tree and have been using PLC non-stop for ages. I know what I am talking about. We can increase the gravity on the projectile so it's pulled faster down to earth, that said, we want it to be a good weapon primarily Plz dont Master of The Flaylock
KA24DERT TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback 641	Posted - 2014.09.27 00:45:00 - [26] - Quote I'm digging the new speed and trajectory, but I'm a plasma cannon noob.
XxGhazbaranxX Eternal Beings Dark Taboo 1727	Posted - 2014.09.27 02:55:00 - [27] - Quote Hey guys i want to clarify some things, when people complained about the PLC, it was mostly about peojectile speed. True users that main the PLC in every match know the tactical uses for the arc. Even with theold arc, the new speed woyld still make it a viable weapon. That old arc required skill but most of all, it created tactical options in the battlefield. A good plc user coyld use the arc to fight people that were on higher ground which still was extremely difficult but got even kore difficult with less arc. With the arc, true users were able to desroy dropships, si uts not about the arc. Its about people, who know very little about the weapon giving feedback for aomething they dont understand because they didnt want to spend rhe time to learn how to use it. If you used the plasma cannon once or twice and didnt look at it again until this patch and are now saying its fine it means somethhing went wrong. PLC is one of the last skillshot weapons left in the game and i urge CCP to keep it that way. DUST needs a high skill weapon and not another noob tube. Plasma Cannon Advocate Dust 514 Survivor
XxGhazbaranxX Eternal Beings Dark Taboo 1727	Posted - 2014.09.27 03:08:00 - [28] - Quote Fizzer XCIV wrote: Having it follow a non-newtonian path would really make if feel weird and more clunky.. Non newtownian path would imply an arc not natural for its speed and wheight based on gravity. Since we do not know the projectiles wheight and CCP hasnt implemented gravity fluctuations for different planets, the i could argue that any path, including one with a faster drop couldbe considred natural and, since the plc and it tru community evolved around the arc, the elimination of such would be detrimental to it hardcore player base and its skillshot status. I do however want to thank ccp for tge increase in speed. It wasnt overdone and feels very right. I might be an old dog not wantint to learn new tricksbut i still feel the PLC should remain a very skill intensive weapon. Plasma Cannon Advocate Dust 514 Survivor
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 5271	Posted - 2014.09.27 03:10:00 - [29] - Quote @ Ghaz Earlier today I would've agreed with you. But the more I use the updated PLC, the more I appreciate Delta's changes. I freely defer to your expertise, though I'd respectfully urge you to give it a shot. Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley
XxGhazbaranxX Eternal Beings Dark Taboo 1728	Posted - 2014.09.27 03:56:00 - [30] - Quote Adipem Nothi wrote: @ Ghaz Earlier today I would've agreed with you. But the more I use the updated PLC, the more I appreciate Delta's changes. I freely defer to your expertise, though I'd respectfully urge you to give it a shot. I'll give it a try; I am very unhappy about the ark simpky because I would like to keep it a skill shot weapon and because the arc added some strategic advantages against higher opponents, helped with hit detection and gave it an overall better feel for where the projectile was going to fall. I am a PLC vet that would not like to see it go the way of FoTM most weapons have fallen into at some point and the get hit in the teeth with the nerf hammer. The more skill it needs the better; the harder to use the better. If your not shitn puppies every second that bad boy is in the air just to see the results of your skills I'm not happy. Every time i see someone saying OMG WTF IT'S amazing, all I can think about is the same people that started saying OMG the game is so much better now with AIM ASSIST Plasma Cannon Advocate Dust 514 Survivor

Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution 7653	Posted - 2014.09.27 04:01:00 - [31] - Quote Adipem Nothi wrote: @ Ghaz Earlier today I would've agreed with you. But the more I use the updated PLC, the more I appreciate Delta's changes. I freely defer to your expertise, though I'd respectfully urge you to give it a shot. Gaz wants his ego stroked by people watching his videos going "OMG SOO CUUEL!!11!" Sure, plasma cannon isn't as hard to hit targets anymore but it's still one of the most skill required weapons in the game, even with speed increased and arc decreased. People who want the exaggerated parabolic arc back are usually the type that didn't want to accept (and fought against even) that the plasma cannon was intended as AV. Giving selfish reasons as to why. This is no different. Something's wrong when you regret Things that haven't happened yet
XxGhazbaranxX Eternal Beings Dark Taboo 1728	Posted - 2014.09.27 04:19:00 - [32] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: Adipem Nothi wrote: @ Ghaz Earlier today I would've agreed with you. But the more I use the updated PLC, the more I appreciate Delta's changes. I freely defer to your expertise, though I'd respectfully urge you to give it a shot. Gaz wants his ego stroked by people watching his videos going "OMG SOO CUUEL!!11!" Sure, plasma cannon isn't as hard to hit targets anymore but it's still one of the most skill required weapons in the game, even with speed increased and arc decreased. People who want the exaggerated parabolic arc back are usually the type that didn't want to accept (and fought against even) that the plasma cannon was intended as AV. Giving selfish reasons as to why. This is no different. Ahh here we go... Grabs popcorn Plasma Cannon Advocate Dust 514 Survivor
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 3237	Posted - 2014.09.27 06:40:00 - [33] - Quote No touchy the gravity!
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 3238	Posted - 2014.09.27 07:31:00 - [34] - Quote Aim assist is a cheap shot ghaz. Fortunately it's worthless to me.
XxGhazbaranxX Eternal Beings Dark Taboo 1730	Posted - 2014.09.27 15:08:00 - [35] - Quote You know what, I don't want to inflame the forums with my old ways. This old dog will just have to learn new tricks. If so many people like it, who am I to make CCP change something That the community likes and is not detrimental to gameplay Plasma Cannon Advocate Dust 514 Survivor
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 3254	Posted - 2014.09.27 18:02:00 - [36] - Quote XxGhazbaranxX wrote: You know what, I don't want to inflame the forums with my old ways. This old dog will just have to learn new tricks. If so many people like it, who am I to make CCP change something That the community likes and is not detrimental to gameplay Push for one variant that behaves like the version you like.
RKKR The Southern Legion Final Resolution. 1036	Posted - 2014.09.27 20:50:00 - [37] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: People who want the exaggerated parabolic arc back are usually the type that didn't want to accept (and fought against even) that the plasma cannon was intended as AV. Giving selfish reasons as to why. This is no different. Please let me know how I hit a running HAV behind a stupid little slope/hill (or dropship parked on a high point that isn't directly hitable) now instead of lashing out at people with stupid bullshit...wasn't a problem with the old arc (and speed) .
Coleman Gray Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 1217	Posted - 2014.09.28 08:18:00 - [38] - Quote As good as hitting stuff with an arc is, it's a cannon not a mortar, it works far better as a close range AV weapon that is capable of hitting vehicles now without guess work with a the old arc. Original Commando, before all you posers just saying
CommanderBolt KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 1798	Posted - 2014.09.28 08:42:00 - [39] - Quote I love it as is and I wouldnt change it personally. Yea of course see if CCP can make a vairaint with more of an arc. My personal issue is, the weapon has reasonable range now. Bringing back more arcing would just make it a lot harder to engage vehicles again. I know you can attack vehicles with the arc, but the second they start moving away the plasma cannon struggles more and more to get a hit off. You dont have that problem with swarms and forges until they get out of range or break line of sight. They are my reasons for keeping the PLC as is. But again, like I said, I would love to see a secondary version with more arcing if that's what some of the old PLC vets want. (Ive only been using the PLC a month or two so I have adapted to the changes quite fast) "Also I think knives are a good idea, big f**k-off shiny ones" "Guns for show, Knives for a pro" MY LIFE FOR AIUR!
RKKR The Southern Legion Final Resolution. 1036	Posted - 2014.09.28 08:59:00 - [40] - Quote PLC as close range AV? If you use it for close range then you shouldn't have had troubles with the arc in the first place. Another example...a vehicle behind a fence: the old PLC would easily hit it while I'm safe in cover, the new PLC? Can't hit it because it flies over the vehicle or against the fence unless There is nothing between me and the vehicle (making you vurnable) The arc is needed.

Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 3260	Posted - 2014.09.28 13:13:00 - [41] - Quote RKKR wrote: PLC as close range AV? If you use it for close range then you shouldn't have had troubles with the arc in the first place. Another example...a vehicle behind a fence: the old PLC would easily hit it while I'm safe in cover, the new PLC? Can't hit it because it flies over the vehicle or against the fence unless There is nothing between me and the vehicle (making you vurnable) The arc is needed. no it is not. I like being able to hit an ADS higher than 30m thanks
RKKR The Southern Legion Final Resolution. 1036	Posted - 2014.09.28 13:45:00 - [42] - Quote Breakin Stuff wrote: RKKR wrote: PLC as close range AV? If you use it for close range then you shouldn't have had troubles with the arc in the first place. Another example...a vehicle behind a fence: the old PLC would easily hit it while I'm safe in cover, the new PLC? Can't hit it because it flies over the vehicle or against the fence unless There is nothing between me and the vehicle (making you vurnable) The arc is needed. no it is not. I like being able to hit an ADS higher than 30m thanks OK I'm convinced because Breaking stuff is able to hit dropships at the cost of other stuff the PLC used to do.
manboar thunder fist Dead Man's Game 142	Posted - 2014.09.28 13:46:00 - [43] - Quote yep just one more notch to the head of the ADS pilot. rip NERF SCOUTS, NERF TANKS, NERF AV, NERF ASSAULTS, NERF LOGIS, NERF HEAVIES nerf life Delta- bye bye ads, bye bye scr


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