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XxGhazbaranxX
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Posted - 2014.09.24 22:54:00 -
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Hello,
Plasma Cannon speed is great but, that ark needs to come back. The trajectory removal completely breaks some of the aspects that really helps the Plasma Cannon against vehicles and infantry. apart from hat all good.
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XxGhazbaranxX
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Posted - 2014.09.24 23:01:00 -
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Mobius Kaethis wrote:XxGhazbaranxX wrote:Hello,
Plasma Cannon speed is great but, that ark needs to come back. The trajectory removal completely breaks some of the aspects that really helps the Plasma Cannon against vehicles and infantry. apart from hat all good. Is it completely flat now (the arc) or is it simply that the same amount of drop occurs over a longer distance thanks to the faster projectile speed?
No ark, and if there is, it's completely unnoticeable
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XxGhazbaranxX
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Posted - 2014.09.25 02:06:00 -
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zzZaXxx wrote:The less arc the better. Point and shoot.
To be very honest I don't think you have ever used a plasma cannon. Even without the ark, it is by far, has never been and I hope never becomes, a point and shoot weapon. Less arc means that it loses it's potential against infantry and against targets that are on a higher plain than the PLC user. And just to be clear, the PLC is not meant to be used as an Anti-infantry weapon but the mere fact that it's possible to do so is the reason why it had/has so many drawbacks.
Pseudogenesis wrote:There is an arc, it seems about half of what it used to be. Personally I think the QQ is ridiculous, I mean really. The plasma cannon is now better than it's ever been and you're complaining about the loss of one of its negatives?
I tested the PLC in a couple of matches and The projectile starts to arc at about double the distance that it used to. At this distance, even with the speed increment to the projectile, the target can have moved left or right on a whim which is still a pain if you are leading your shot. Less ark means less strategic play and positioning when it comes to selecting targets.
I have maxed out PLC tree and have been using PLC non-stop for ages. I know what I am talking about.
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XxGhazbaranxX
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Posted - 2014.09.27 02:55:00 -
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Hey guys i want to clarify some things, when people complained about the PLC, it was mostly about peojectile speed. True users that main the PLC in every match know the tactical uses for the arc. Even with theold arc, the new speed woyld still make it a viable weapon. That old arc required skill but most of all, it created tactical options in the battlefield. A good plc user coyld use the arc to fight people that were on higher ground which still was extremely difficult but got even kore difficult with less arc. With the arc, true users were able to desroy dropships, si uts not about the arc. Its about people, who know very little about the weapon giving feedback for aomething they dont understand because they didnt want to spend rhe time to learn how to use it. If you used the plasma cannon once or twice and didnt look at it again until this patch and are now saying its fine it means somethhing went wrong. PLC is one of the last skillshot weapons left in the game and i urge CCP to keep it that way. DUST needs a high skill weapon and not another noob tube.
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XxGhazbaranxX
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Posted - 2014.09.27 03:08:00 -
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Fizzer XCIV wrote:Having it follow a non-newtonian path would really make if feel weird and more clunky..
Non newtownian path would imply an arc not natural for its speed and wheight based on gravity. Since we do not know the projectiles wheight and CCP hasnt implemented gravity fluctuations for different planets, the i could argue that any path, including one with a faster drop couldbe considred natural and, since the plc and it tru community evolved around the arc, the elimination of such would be detrimental to it hardcore player base and its skillshot status.
I do however want to thank ccp for tge increase in speed. It wasnt overdone and feels very right. I might be an old dog not wantint to learn new tricksbut i still feel the PLC should remain a very skill intensive weapon.
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XxGhazbaranxX
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Posted - 2014.09.27 03:56:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:@ Ghaz
Earlier today I would've agreed with you. But the more I use the updated PLC, the more I appreciate Delta's changes. I freely defer to your expertise, though I'd respectfully urge you to give it a shot.
I'll give it a try; I am very unhappy about the ark simpky because I would like to keep it a skill shot weapon and because the arc added some strategic advantages against higher opponents, helped with hit detection and gave it an overall better feel for where the projectile was going to fall.
I am a PLC vet that would not like to see it go the way of FoTM most weapons have fallen into at some point and the get hit in the teeth with the nerf hammer. The more skill it needs the better; the harder to use the better. If your not shitn puppies every second that bad boy is in the air just to see the results of your skills I'm not happy. Every time i see someone saying OMG WTF IT'S amazing, all I can think about is the same people that started saying OMG the game is so much better now with AIM ASSIST
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XxGhazbaranxX
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Posted - 2014.09.27 04:19:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:@ Ghaz
Earlier today I would've agreed with you. But the more I use the updated PLC, the more I appreciate Delta's changes. I freely defer to your expertise, though I'd respectfully urge you to give it a shot. Gaz wants his ego stroked by people watching his videos going "OMG SOO CUUEL!!11!" Sure, plasma cannon isn't as hard to hit targets anymore but it's still one of the most skill required weapons in the game, even with speed increased and arc decreased. People who want the exaggerated parabolic arc back are usually the type that didn't want to accept (and fought against even) that the plasma cannon was intended as AV. Giving selfish reasons as to why. This is no different.
Ahh here we go... Grabs popcorn
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XxGhazbaranxX
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Posted - 2014.09.27 15:08:00 -
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You know what, I don't want to inflame the forums with my old ways. This old dog will just have to learn new tricks. If so many people like it, who am I to make CCP change something That the community likes and is not detrimental to gameplay
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