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NeoPLaZM SaTuRN
highland marines IMMORTAL REGIME
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Posted - 2014.09.24 17:19:00 -
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What is wrong with you??? I used to have 5 rounds in my magazine and now its 3. I used to have 31 max ammo, and now its 19!!!! what?!!?! and the range is ridiculous!!! i can throw my rifle farther!! why would you do this??? |
RayRay James
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
420
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Posted - 2014.09.24 17:21:00 -
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NeoPLaZM SaTuRN wrote:What is wrong with you??? I used to have 5 rounds in my magazine and now its 3. I used to have 31 max ammo, and now its 19!!!! what?!!?! and the range is ridiculous!!! i can throw my rifle farther!! why would you do this???
To get you out of the red zone
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Vapor Forseti
DIOS EX. General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.09.24 17:23:00 -
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Now hopefully those redline couch potatoes can go deeper into the playing field for some risk.
If you leave, then you will not be missed.
"I think not having a heart or soul in this case is an asset." -One Eyed King
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Fizzer XCIV
Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.09.24 17:24:00 -
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Because people sat in the redline, and cherrypicked easy kills.
Judging by what people are saying, redline sniping is still an issue though...
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
3127
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Posted - 2014.09.24 17:24:00 -
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NeoPLaZM SaTuRN wrote:What is wrong with you??? I used to have 5 rounds in my magazine and now its 3. I used to have 31 max ammo, and now its 19!!!! what?!!?! and the range is ridiculous!!! i can throw my rifle farther!! why would you do this???
this is what you get for not paying attention. |
Commander Noctus
Gallente Loyalist
59
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Posted - 2014.09.24 17:41:00 -
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NeoPLaZM SaTuRN wrote:What is wrong with you??? I used to have 5 rounds in my magazine and now its 3. I used to have 31 max ammo, and now its 19!!!! what?!!?! and the range is ridiculous!!! i can throw my rifle farther!! why would you do this???
Yea!1! WTF CCP?? I dun care bout no 300% h3ad5h0t boost! I dun care bout the dmg buff!!!!>? I want mah redlin!!!!! I WANT ZERO RISK!!!! ALL REWARD!!!!
Seriously, stfu, losing some shots overall for such a grossly incandescent boost to damage is more than fair. In fact, I would vouch for even a bit more of a range decrease. Maybe 25m less? Still appears to be a decent number of NeoPLaZM SaTuRNs out there (redline snipers). |
NAV HIV
The Generals
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Posted - 2014.09.24 17:43:00 -
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Can i have your ISK?! |
Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.09.24 17:44:00 -
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Vapor Forseti wrote:Now hopefully those redline couch potatoes can go deeper into the playing field for some risk.
If you leave, then you will not be missed.
I would exhaust all my likes if we had a limited amount and I could like this more than once.
Level 4 Forum Warrior
PSN: wbrom42
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Posted - 2014.09.24 18:12:00 -
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Wait until you shoot someone with it.
Headshot, Body Shot doesn't matter.
CPM 1
Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior
\\= Prototype Sniper Rifles =// Unlocked
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Supernus Gigas
sNk Syndicate
850
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Posted - 2014.09.24 18:16:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Wait until you shoot someone with it.
Headshot, Body Shot doesn't matter.
First match today with the Charge I one-shot a prototype sentinel with a headshot from full HP.
It felt so right.
FIRE UP THE HEAVY MEAT GRINDER! WE'RE HAVING CLONE BURGERS TONIGHT, BOYS!
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Snake Sellors
Hellstorm Inc General Tso's Alliance
487
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Posted - 2014.09.24 18:54:00 -
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Haven't had time to try it yet..
glad to hear the headshots work..
once again though people i ask please try to use the advanced level s.rs too.
if we proto stomp with our rifles too much they'll get cried about again. |
CommanderBolt
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
1752
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Posted - 2014.09.24 19:12:00 -
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So its actually worth spending SP on snipers now? How do they compare at say LR range + (Say 100-150m outside the range of other weapons?)
"Also I think knives are a good idea, big f**k-off shiny ones"
"Guns for show, Knives for a pro"
MY LIFE FOR AIUR!
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CUSE TOWN333
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.09.24 19:16:00 -
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NeoPLaZM SaTuRN wrote:What is wrong with you??? I used to have 5 rounds in my magazine and now its 3. I used to have 31 max ammo, and now its 19!!!! what?!!?! and the range is ridiculous!!! i can throw my rifle farther!! why would you do this??? crys cause you actually have to step a foot out the redline. about time we got these bums in the map im a drive around in a LAV with my HMG looking for victims all day.
KEQ diplomat/ intel /GC officer
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Mobius Kaethis
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
1842
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Posted - 2014.09.24 19:18:00 -
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On many maps snipers can still sit in the redline and hold down points which I see as a major issue. All play styles need to fit the risk/reward matrix or the game will not be fun. Sitting on the redline all but eliminates risk.
I'm sure the sniper rifle will get changed more in future hotfixes.
Now with more evil.
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valad II
NoGameNoLife
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Posted - 2014.09.24 19:22:00 -
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NeoPLaZM SaTuRN wrote:What is wrong with you??? I used to have 5 rounds in my magazine and now its 3. I used to have 31 max ammo, and now its 19!!!! what?!!?! and the range is ridiculous!!! i can throw my rifle farther!! why would you do this??? All the fukin whining and crying. Poor fukin snipers. BOO HOO HOO I have never seen so many snipers as of lately. |
Dreis Shadowweaver
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
206
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Posted - 2014.09.24 19:24:00 -
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Mobius Kaethis wrote:On many maps snipers can still sit in the redline and hold down points which I see as a major issue. All play styles need to fit the risk/reward matrix or the game will not be fun. Sitting on the redline all but eliminates risk.
I'm sure the sniper rifle will get changed more in future hotfixes. With this range nerf that encourages aggressive sniping, I hope they reduce scope sway.
Join the 'Nova Knifers United' channel
I've only ever known 1.8...
Caldari blood, Minmatar heart <3
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Magnus Amadeuss
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
1101
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Posted - 2014.09.24 19:27:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Wait until you shoot someone with it.
Headshot, Body Shot doesn't matter.
Yep just one-shotted a 1600 HP suit from deep redline with a charge. Surprised me, but now I am not very happy about it. Just means that everyone is now as annoying as a thales was, while being ONLY 150m deep in the redline instead of 300 meters.
Fixing swarms
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Joel II X
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
3608
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Posted - 2014.09.24 20:33:00 -
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At least it hits like a sniper rifle, instead of a slingshot now.
I, for one, welcome and praise Hotfix Delta. |
NeoPLaZM SaTuRN
highland marines IMMORTAL REGIME
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Posted - 2014.09.24 22:53:00 -
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wow.... you are calling me a cherry picker, a crybaby and a coward??? sounds like i was doing pretty good scaring the crap out of you. and by the way, where do you expect a sniper to snipe from? you want him to sit at the objective? idiots |
Crimson ShieId
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.09.24 23:06:00 -
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NeoPLaZM SaTuRN wrote:wow.... you are calling me a cherry picker, a crybaby and a coward??? sounds like i was doing pretty good scaring the crap out of you. and by the way, where do you expect a sniper to snipe from? you want him to sit at the objective? idiots
You've met with a terrible fate.
I'm really not sure what else you were expecting, coming on the forums and saying the new range is absolutely horrible when it's not that bad. The headshot and damage buffs allow most of the rifles to one shot a vast majority of suits if you're any good. Of course, if you suck at sniping, you're going to have a difficult time lining up those shots.
And there are plenty of spots that allow you a good vantage point while not being in the redline. Try scouring the map next time with a cheap fit to find them.
Nova Knives are best sidearm.
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postapo wastelander
Wasteland Desert Rangers
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Posted - 2014.09.24 23:14:00 -
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*All red zone campers are like
WHAAAAaAAAaAaAaaaaAAAaaaatttttttttttttt
"The human being was not chosen to be a god..the god himself should become a human being."
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Thokk Nightshade
KNIGHTZ OF THE ROUND
557
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Posted - 2014.09.24 23:19:00 -
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You don't need to be on top of the objective to effectively snipe, but you don't have to bury yourself in the redline either. I've been sniping since open beta and haven't redline sniped in over 6 months once I realized how completely useless it was. There are just so many more opportunities to really contribute if you are closer to the objective and not sitting back in the redline hiding. There is usually a better field of vision which means more opportunities for kills as well as a chance to contribute in other ways (I've sniped a null cannon from 150 meters, cleaned it out, then ran up and hacked it and got back to my position before getting killed. I also dropped an uplink and some nanohives on the objective to allow my team to spawn in and KEEP said objective.) . . . . Also, a note to redline snipers. Well, a question really.... Why? Where is the fun and thrill in doing this? Half the fun of Sniping is being silent and hidden, out in the open, knowing if you are found you are going to get whacked. I love the thrill of the Snipe because I need to keep watch on my 6 occasionally and check my flanks for an LAV to drive up on me or a Shotgun/NK scout come up. Watch some of the Top Sniper videos on the Military channel. Those guys were out in the open, crawling up on a spot, laying hidden, waiting for their shot, knowing the second they did hell would rain down on them. Then they were able to sneak out and get away without being shot or captured. That is a good sniper. That is how I try to play. I didn't skill into derpships so I can't rooftop camp/snipe. I detest the redline and how it is abused, so I have to use my wits instead of broken mechanics to play the role.
To all the redlline snipers, let's go Snipe hunting. It's really fun and you would all enjoy it. It is just about as effective as redline sniping as well (Look it up if you don't get the reference)
Thokk Kill. Thokk Crush. Thokk Smash.
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postapo wastelander
Wasteland Desert Rangers
76
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Posted - 2014.09.24 23:25:00 -
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Most of sniper wasnt actually a snipers, wayining somewhere behind the rainbow isnt sniping Now it time to be real snipers and hit the battlefield
"The human being was not chosen to be a god..the god himself should become a human being."
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NeoPLaZM SaTuRN
highland marines IMMORTAL REGIME
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Posted - 2014.09.25 01:02:00 -
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i dont need any pointers on sniping. i do just fine wherever i do it from. Im a Marine and dont need to be educated on any of it, specially by people who dont understand the art and my genuine problem with the hotfix. sounds to me like i was doing just fine killing you people. If you werent mad that means i wasnt doing my job. Im not here for you to enjoy when im killing you. Im here to put fear in you and annoy the crap out of you. dont worry, range reduction or not, ill still be watching your bodies fly like ragdolls in my scope. |
Zindorak
1.U.P
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Posted - 2014.09.25 01:05:00 -
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NeoPLaZM SaTuRN wrote:What is wrong with you??? I used to have 5 rounds in my magazine and now its 3. I used to have 31 max ammo, and now its 19!!!! what?!!?! and the range is ridiculous!!! i can throw my rifle farther!! why would you do this??? Good. Now get your lazy clone out of the redline and snipe like a man
Pokemon master!
Death to all Swarm scrubs
CCP please buff AScR and normal AR :(
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
16660
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Posted - 2014.09.25 01:14:00 -
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NeoPLaZM SaTuRN wrote:i dont need any pointers on sniping. i do just fine wherever i do it from. Im a Marine and dont need to be educated on any of it, specially by people who dont understand the art and my genuine problem with the hotfix. sounds to me like i was doing just fine killing you people. If you werent mad that means i wasnt doing my job. Im not here for you to enjoy when im killing you. Im here to put fear in you and annoy the crap out of you. dont worry, range reduction or not, ill still be watching your bodies fly like ragdolls in my scope.
Last time I checked we still didn't teach headshots
We still didn't teach shooting from the same place twice if it could be helped
and last time I checked you always had a spotter with you with a dmr to watch your back.
CPM 1
Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior
\\= Prototype Sniper Rifles =// Unlocked
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Thokk Nightshade
KNIGHTZ OF THE ROUND
557
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Posted - 2014.09.25 01:20:00 -
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NeoPLaZM SaTuRN wrote:i dont need any pointers on sniping. i do just fine wherever i do it from. Im a Marine and dont need to be educated on any of it, specially by people who dont understand the art and my genuine problem with the hotfix. sounds to me like i was doing just fine killing you people. If you werent mad that means i wasnt doing my job. Im not here for you to enjoy when im killing you. Im here to put fear in you and annoy the crap out of you. dont worry, range reduction or not, ill still be watching your bodies fly like ragdolls in my scope.
I hope you're a solid sniper. I look forward to some cat and mouse in the near future. Too many snipers these days are just pretenders who don't understand the art and are easy pickings. I just hope "wherever I do it from" isn't the redline.
Thokk Kill. Thokk Crush. Thokk Smash.
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Thokk Nightshade
KNIGHTZ OF THE ROUND
557
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Posted - 2014.09.25 01:21:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:NeoPLaZM SaTuRN wrote:i dont need any pointers on sniping. i do just fine wherever i do it from. Im a Marine and dont need to be educated on any of it, specially by people who dont understand the art and my genuine problem with the hotfix. sounds to me like i was doing just fine killing you people. If you werent mad that means i wasnt doing my job. Im not here for you to enjoy when im killing you. Im here to put fear in you and annoy the crap out of you. dont worry, range reduction or not, ill still be watching your bodies fly like ragdolls in my scope. Last time I checked we still didn't teach headshots We still didn't teach shooting from the same place twice if it could be helped and last time I checked you always had a spotter with you with a dmr to watch your back.
Logic and real facts are OP! Knock it off IWS
Thokk Kill. Thokk Crush. Thokk Smash.
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Right-wing Extremist
Nos Nothi
1296
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Posted - 2014.09.25 01:39:00 -
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Fizzer XCIV wrote:Because people sat in the redline, and cherrypicked easy kills.
Judging by what people are saying, redline sniping is still an issue though...
We (dedicated and semi-dedicated snipers) told you the range nerfs would not fix redline snipers - only getting rid of the redline with a better solution for spawn camping (which the redline did not fix prevent to begin with) will do that.
We told you all.
You all just said "oh qq more snipers hurr durr risk hurr".
Now you've qq'd the legitimate sniper into a range nerf that hurts our ability to project fear without hurting the redline sniper's ability to farm kills from a position where you're still too lazy or too inept to neutralize them.
Good job "community".
Jaceon Pale-eye.
And you shall know me by the sound of Charge SR bullets whizzing by your head as I miss repeatedly.
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
16660
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Posted - 2014.09.25 01:41:00 -
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dunno most friendly thales users I saw today where well within counter snipe and stabbing ranges.
either way its going to take some time before the new behaviors settle into normal game play as the meta relearned.
I am likely not going to suggest any further actual range nerfs. Rather focus on the zoom instead as a means of further drawing the sniper in closer but letting those who are good shots continue to remain at their far range.
If ccp however insists on drawing the range down further though I have a do not go past 300 meters sign already ready for it.
CPM 1
Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior
\\= Prototype Sniper Rifles =// Unlocked
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Right-wing Extremist
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2014.09.25 01:50:00 -
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Magnus Amadeuss wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Wait until you shoot someone with it.
Headshot, Body Shot doesn't matter. Yep just one-shotted a 1600 HP suit from deep redline with a charge. Surprised me, but now I am not very happy about it. Just means that everyone is now as annoying as a thales was, while being ONLY 150m deep in the redline instead of 300 meters. It also means that there is going to be 4-5 snipers for every domination, and that most maps are going to suck because of how open they are. Nah. Was sniping earlier to try out the Ishukone post-Delta (pre-Delta it was Charge or Thale's or go home). Ishukone works, 1 headshot and 2 bodyshots to put down a ak.o sentinel. I'm satisfied with it. Anyway, I was the only sniper on my team. There was one enemy sniper outside of my 450m range, I wasn't seeing his name in the killfeed too much so I didn't think anything of it until he flew a dropship to my perch. He jumps out, in his LOGI suit, with his SR and tries to kill me. I was in ck.0 commando with a basic repper and 3x Comp Dmg Mod. My secondary weapon was Wyrkomi Swarms. I just didn't see his dropship come around the back way, very stealthy approach. With no recourse, I had to beat him in a melee dance. I then killed two more, this time keeping a better vigil for dropships...
Sure enough, he came again, this time in an assault suit (which I saw as he bailed out of his burning dropship).
However, I still died because that burning dropship landed on me and he got a road kill out of it. So I switched to my mk.0 scout, went up on the hillside and stabbed four snipers (the match was basically over, so they all came out of the woodwork), shot one Frontline suit with my KLO ScP, then the match ended with me having gone 18-1 altogether.
**** was so cash.
Jaceon Pale-eye.
And you shall know me by the sound of Charge SR bullets whizzing by your head as I miss repeatedly.
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
5201
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Posted - 2014.09.25 02:11:00 -
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NeoPLaZM SaTuRN wrote:What is wrong with you??? I used to have 5 rounds in my magazine and now its 3. I used to have 31 max ammo, and now its 19!!!! what?!!?! and the range is ridiculous!!! i can throw my rifle farther!! why would you do this???
Because headshots were factored into potential kills / clip.
Shoot scout with yes.
- Ripley Riley
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Thokk Nightshade
KNIGHTZ OF THE ROUND
558
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Posted - 2014.09.25 02:22:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:dunno most friendly thales users I saw today where well within counter snipe and stabbing ranges.
either way its going to take some time before the new behaviors settle into normal game play as the meta relearned.
I am likely not going to suggest any further actual range nerfs. Rather focus on the zoom instead as a means of further drawing the sniper in closer but letting those who are good shots continue to remain at their far range.
If ccp however insists on drawing the range down further though I have a do not go past 300 meters sign already ready for it.
Agreed. Anything past 300 meters is dangerous territory. It still isn't going to fix the issue because people will sit in the redline by the closed null cannon and pop off while the rest of us have to try and find MORE new positions. This is going to lead to Rooftop camping all over the place because it is the only place a sniper will be able to go within the killzone that has a vantage point and isn't smack dab in the middle of the action.
As for the zoom, I haven't even tried it yet so can we hold off a little bit on the proposed changes. The Thales was the only scope before that had legitimate zoom. I'm hoping that change from 18 to 15 (whatever the hell those numbers mean) is enough of a bump to zoom that it's not like looking through an old 4 power Weaver scope with non adjustable zoom. because that is what the old zoom was. At 300 meters headshots were a complete guessing game. Anything farther and I'm not even bothering with anything other than a body shot. With the charge, the Headshot is necessary with the clip/total ammo nerf so we are going to need that additional zoom to try and line our headshots up.
Thokk Kill. Thokk Crush. Thokk Smash.
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Turbo Hall
Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.09.25 06:23:00 -
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I dont know about you guys. But I snipe and I look for redlines from diffrent areas. Once I kill or think I've been noticed I move. Also I would love to max out stuff but I have only been playing for like 2 weeks. So still grinding to get sp to work on suit and weapons. |
Mregomies
Beer For Evil Mercs
278
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Posted - 2014.09.25 06:45:00 -
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New SR is awesome! I need to go closer but that HS dmg buff!! with my accurate I OHK everything.
Suomi, Finland, PERKELE!
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