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Thokk Nightshade
KNIGHTZ OF THE ROUND
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Posted - 2014.09.24 23:19:00 -
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You don't need to be on top of the objective to effectively snipe, but you don't have to bury yourself in the redline either. I've been sniping since open beta and haven't redline sniped in over 6 months once I realized how completely useless it was. There are just so many more opportunities to really contribute if you are closer to the objective and not sitting back in the redline hiding. There is usually a better field of vision which means more opportunities for kills as well as a chance to contribute in other ways (I've sniped a null cannon from 150 meters, cleaned it out, then ran up and hacked it and got back to my position before getting killed. I also dropped an uplink and some nanohives on the objective to allow my team to spawn in and KEEP said objective.)
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Also, a note to redline snipers. Well, a question really.... Why? Where is the fun and thrill in doing this? Half the fun of Sniping is being silent and hidden, out in the open, knowing if you are found you are going to get whacked. I love the thrill of the Snipe because I need to keep watch on my 6 occasionally and check my flanks for an LAV to drive up on me or a Shotgun/NK scout come up. Watch some of the Top Sniper videos on the Military channel. Those guys were out in the open, crawling up on a spot, laying hidden, waiting for their shot, knowing the second they did hell would rain down on them. Then they were able to sneak out and get away without being shot or captured. That is a good sniper. That is how I try to play. I didn't skill into derpships so I can't rooftop camp/snipe. I detest the redline and how it is abused, so I have to use my wits instead of broken mechanics to play the role.
To all the redlline snipers, let's go Snipe hunting. It's really fun and you would all enjoy it. It is just about as effective as redline sniping as well (Look it up if you don't get the reference)
Thokk Kill. Thokk Crush. Thokk Smash.
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Thokk Nightshade
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Posted - 2014.09.25 01:20:00 -
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NeoPLaZM SaTuRN wrote:i dont need any pointers on sniping. i do just fine wherever i do it from. Im a Marine and dont need to be educated on any of it, specially by people who dont understand the art and my genuine problem with the hotfix. sounds to me like i was doing just fine killing you people. If you werent mad that means i wasnt doing my job. Im not here for you to enjoy when im killing you. Im here to put fear in you and annoy the crap out of you. dont worry, range reduction or not, ill still be watching your bodies fly like ragdolls in my scope.
I hope you're a solid sniper. I look forward to some cat and mouse in the near future. Too many snipers these days are just pretenders who don't understand the art and are easy pickings. I just hope "wherever I do it from" isn't the redline.
Thokk Kill. Thokk Crush. Thokk Smash.
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Thokk Nightshade
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Posted - 2014.09.25 01:21:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:NeoPLaZM SaTuRN wrote:i dont need any pointers on sniping. i do just fine wherever i do it from. Im a Marine and dont need to be educated on any of it, specially by people who dont understand the art and my genuine problem with the hotfix. sounds to me like i was doing just fine killing you people. If you werent mad that means i wasnt doing my job. Im not here for you to enjoy when im killing you. Im here to put fear in you and annoy the crap out of you. dont worry, range reduction or not, ill still be watching your bodies fly like ragdolls in my scope. Last time I checked we still didn't teach headshots We still didn't teach shooting from the same place twice if it could be helped and last time I checked you always had a spotter with you with a dmr to watch your back.
Logic and real facts are OP! Knock it off IWS 
Thokk Kill. Thokk Crush. Thokk Smash.
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Thokk Nightshade
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Posted - 2014.09.25 02:22:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:dunno most friendly thales users I saw today where well within counter snipe and stabbing ranges.
either way its going to take some time before the new behaviors settle into normal game play as the meta relearned.
I am likely not going to suggest any further actual range nerfs. Rather focus on the zoom instead as a means of further drawing the sniper in closer but letting those who are good shots continue to remain at their far range.
If ccp however insists on drawing the range down further though I have a do not go past 300 meters sign already ready for it.
Agreed. Anything past 300 meters is dangerous territory. It still isn't going to fix the issue because people will sit in the redline by the closed null cannon and pop off while the rest of us have to try and find MORE new positions. This is going to lead to Rooftop camping all over the place because it is the only place a sniper will be able to go within the killzone that has a vantage point and isn't smack dab in the middle of the action.
As for the zoom, I haven't even tried it yet so can we hold off a little bit on the proposed changes. The Thales was the only scope before that had legitimate zoom. I'm hoping that change from 18 to 15 (whatever the hell those numbers mean) is enough of a bump to zoom that it's not like looking through an old 4 power Weaver scope with non adjustable zoom. because that is what the old zoom was. At 300 meters headshots were a complete guessing game. Anything farther and I'm not even bothering with anything other than a body shot. With the charge, the Headshot is necessary with the clip/total ammo nerf so we are going to need that additional zoom to try and line our headshots up.
Thokk Kill. Thokk Crush. Thokk Smash.
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