DUST Search - The isk issue

All Channels

General Discussions

The isk issue

» Click here to find additional results for this topic using Google

Monitor this thread via RSS [?]

Pages: [1] 2 :: one page

Author	Thread Statistics \| Show CCP posts - 0 post(s)
X7 lion Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 248	Posted - 2014.09.24 00:15:00 - [1] - Quote ok so unless you farm in cheep suits, are apart of the 1% or simply dont die running well made fits isnt really possible with out some one with alot of isk backing you up, in my proto scout suit with my speed tanking nova knife set up my actions can litterly make or break the win & 9/10 that isnt a isk positive thing to do. (Before some one has a go at me saying but your not ment to run the best suits ect the devs have said they want us to, its why all suits in legion are going to be blueprint so shush) isk pay outs need to be increased across the board. (but lion they cant do that they havnt made there mind up about if isk will be transfused to legion) <- this is pointless since we dont have legion yet, but we do have dust. also the price of proto suits needs to be lowered, it dose not scale with the other suits & creates an artificial ecosystem of elitists & breeds spite and unnecessary hate. these are simple things that would improve the dust experience alot. *I am death, you cannot see me, you cannot out run me, you cannot find me, but im always right behind you.* -stab-
Michael Arck 5733	Posted - 2014.09.24 00:16:00 - [2] - Quote awaits posts on topic Archistrategos / The 7th Prime / Selah *Where the fear has gone there will be nothing....only I will remain
SILENT GIANT FATHERS-AND-SONS 90	Posted - 2014.09.24 00:33:00 - [3] - Quote Uhhhh. I know what you mean sorta. I get around it by using LP store. My average fit is 30-40k isk adv fits unless im out doing stupid stuff w 3k fits. When using those, even when I put the obj before the suit, I tend to still break even as long as I have a few decent team mates. When like yesterday, I had 14 sniping blueberrries and 1 sitting in his jeep on a rooftop enjoying the sunset. I gave up wasting 40k fits and screwed off myself. Nothing I can really control. Since shopping at the lp store I find most my proto fits costing the same range as adv, plus lp. Good thing about FW is most everyone tries. I know there are the team killers but 9 out of 10 games are fun and down to the wire.
Viktor Hadah Jr Negative-Impact Gentlemen's.Club 5103	Posted - 2014.09.24 00:34:00 - [4] - Quote #0.000001% GOML EVE 21 Day Trial(7 Days longer then regular trial)
Eruditus 920 Prodigy Ops 477	Posted - 2014.09.24 00:38:00 - [5] - Quote Did you just "shush" me mudder fugger? Wisdom is what you gain after you need it.
Riruodo Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State 256	Posted - 2014.09.24 00:51:00 - [6] - Quote I think proto suits were designed as the final solution for desperate situations. Need to quickly take out a tank? have to defend a point by yourself? bring out your best. But only if you're willing to gamble your isk on a victory. While CCP does want us to use proto, I don't think they want us to use proto 24/7. They would much prefer us spending the match adapting to our battle environment. whether that means swarming with tons of cheap militia suits to provide a distraction, or soloing in an advanced suit to keep yourself semi-self sufficient, etc etc. That's my opinion. you shouldn't run prot 24/7 unless you have the means to. if you don't, time to downgrade and save up isk (or join a corp that pays well). Utena Tenjou is my prince in shining armor.
J4yne C0bb Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 841	Posted - 2014.09.24 00:54:00 - [7] - Quote Agreed. I have said this before on the forums, but one of the major problems of the NPE that I truly wish that CCP would recognize is the difference between getting outgeared and getting outplayed, and how it affects player retention. Being outplayed (i.e, losing due to poor strategy, poor teamwork, or sub-standard player ability) does not lead new mercs to want to discontinue playing, generally speaking; it leads them to work harder for the win. This statement only applies to new mercs that are up to Dust's steep challenge, of course, but this is a mature game for a mature playerbase, and will not necessarily appeal to everyone that runs across it, and that's ok. I think we can all agree that this game isn't, and shouldn't be, for everyone. However, among those players that are right for Dust, being outgeared (i.e., losing because you are unable to run the best gear consistently) leads to feelings of hopelessness, then rage, then apathy -- ultimately leading a player to discontinue playing for good. This right here is what CCP needs to address if they hope to widen it's appeal among people who are right for this game. So for me, anything that evens the playing field out in public matches would be a good change. Either increase payouts, or decrease proto gear pricing, or meta-level capped matches, they all solve the same problem. I think the best method, even with the new 'mu' matchmaking component, is still capping gear in public matches. In FW or PC, fine, the gloves should come off, and corps should be free to use whatever FOTM tactics they want to win, but pub matches, where players spend most of their time? It's discouraging and drives people away. Min Logi \| aka Punch R0ckgroin, fatman
X7 lion Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 251	Posted - 2014.09.24 02:39:00 - [8] - Quote SILENT GIANT wrote: Uhhhh. I know what you mean sorta. I get around it by using LP store. My average fit is 30-40k isk adv fits unless im out doing stupid stuff w 3k fits. When using those, even when I put the obj before the suit, I tend to still break even as long as I have a few decent team mates. When like yesterday, I had 14 sniping blueberrries and 1 sitting in his jeep on a rooftop enjoying the sunset. I gave up wasting 40k fits and screwed off myself. Nothing I can really control. Since shopping at the lp store I find most my proto fits costing the same range as adv, plus lp. Good thing about FW is most everyone tries. I know there are the team killers but 9 out of 10 games are fun and down to the wire. Problem for me is i lose more isk trying to get the lp in the first place that i cant sustain my self off it because im low on isk or suits. *I am death, you cannot see me, you cannot out run me, you cannot find me, but im always right behind you.* -stab-
Omega Black Zero Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation 113	Posted - 2014.09.24 02:53:00 - [9] - Quote Learn to offset your costs by putting more value into your skill than in your fits. I can make between 200k to 300k while only spending at the most 50k for the entire match. If you want money, you're going to have to budget your isk and resources more effectively.
Heimdallr69 Nyain San General Tso's Alliance 3666	Posted - 2014.09.24 02:54:00 - [10] - Quote I've been saying that for a long time.. The response I get is you farmed Isk in PC.. Um no I fought in pc and never excepted a single paycheck just reimbursements. But I will say it again I agree isk payouts need increased. Removed inappropriate content - CCP Logibro

One Eyed King Land of the BIind 4368	Posted - 2014.09.24 02:55:00 - [11] - Quote I run M-1 and M/1 scouts all the time, and end up in the top 3 a lot, too frequently at 1. I honestly don't get where you are coming from. I have proto suits, but don't feel the need to run it precisely because I would lose money every battle. Nor do they need to be run to be effective. PC? Absolutely. And you can make enough to justify proto. Pubs? Forget that. Too many newbros have a hard enough time for CCP to enable the vets to run proto. Bite the bullet and run a bunch of Ambushes in Starter fits, use that ISK to get your FW LP, and make some effective cheaper fits for your pubs skirmishes if you want to run positive. I just don't get the mentality that mercs should feel entitled to run proto gear in the pubs all the time. You can always tell a Millford Minja
X7 lion Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 252	Posted - 2014.09.24 02:57:00 - [12] - Quote One Eyed King wrote: I run M-1 and M/1 scouts all the time, and end up in the top 3 a lot, too frequently at 1. I honestly don't get where you are coming from. I have proto suits, but don't feel the need to run it precisely because I would lose money every battle. Nor do they need to be run to be effective. PC? Absolutely. And you can make enough to justify proto. Pubs? Forget that. Too many newbros have a hard enough time for CCP to enable the vets to run proto. Bite the bullet and run a bunch of Ambushes in Starter fits, use that ISK to get your FW LP, and make some effective cheaper fits for your pubs skirmishes if you want to run positive. I just don't get the mentality that mercs should feel entitled to run proto gear in the pubs all the time. thing is i run a speed tanker gallente proto with nk's i do really well but my suit is 104k and the differnce between running speed tanker in proto and speed in advanced is astronomical, doing really well isnt enough to stay isk positive & its not fun to play in lower suits. *I am death, you cannot see me, you cannot out run me, you cannot find me, but im always right behind you.* -stab-
One Eyed King Land of the BIind 4369	Posted - 2014.09.24 03:01:00 - [13] - Quote X7 lion wrote: One Eyed King wrote: I run M-1 and M/1 scouts all the time, and end up in the top 3 a lot, too frequently at 1. I honestly don't get where you are coming from. I have proto suits, but don't feel the need to run it precisely because I would lose money every battle. Nor do they need to be run to be effective. PC? Absolutely. And you can make enough to justify proto. Pubs? Forget that. Too many newbros have a hard enough time for CCP to enable the vets to run proto. Bite the bullet and run a bunch of Ambushes in Starter fits, use that ISK to get your FW LP, and make some effective cheaper fits for your pubs skirmishes if you want to run positive. I just don't get the mentality that mercs should feel entitled to run proto gear in the pubs all the time. thing is i run a speed tanker gallente proto with nk's i do really well but my suit is 104k and the differnce between running speed tanker in proto and speed in advanced is astronomical, doing really well isnt enough to stay isk positive & its not fun to play in lower suits. That is a matter of perspective. I have lots of fun in my lower tier suits. If you define fun as pub stomping, then I am glad that you are not able to make all that money and stomp noobs with no SP into oblivion. This game has a hard enough time retaining new players, we shouldn't encourage anything that would further erode their experience. You can always tell a Millford Minja
X7 lion Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 252	Posted - 2014.09.24 03:04:00 - [14] - Quote One Eyed King wrote: X7 lion wrote: One Eyed King wrote: I run M-1 and M/1 scouts all the time, and end up in the top 3 a lot, too frequently at 1. I honestly don't get where you are coming from. I have proto suits, but don't feel the need to run it precisely because I would lose money every battle. Nor do they need to be run to be effective. PC? Absolutely. And you can make enough to justify proto. Pubs? Forget that. Too many newbros have a hard enough time for CCP to enable the vets to run proto. Bite the bullet and run a bunch of Ambushes in Starter fits, use that ISK to get your FW LP, and make some effective cheaper fits for your pubs skirmishes if you want to run positive. I just don't get the mentality that mercs should feel entitled to run proto gear in the pubs all the time. thing is i run a speed tanker gallente proto with nk's i do really well but my suit is 104k and the differnce between running speed tanker in proto and speed in advanced is astronomical, doing really well isnt enough to stay isk positive & its not fun to play in lower suits. That is a matter of perspective. I have lots of fun in my lower tier suits. If you define fun as pub stomping, then I am glad that you are not able to make all that money and stomp noobs with no SP into oblivion. This game has a hard enough time retaining new players, we shouldn't encourage anything that would further erode their experience. lets not start a fight here, doing so would defeat the point in bringing this up, in an ideal game world it would be efficant for every one to play in there best gear so every one can have fun & for the record i one shot any thing that isnt max heavy, The knives do not discriminate. *I am death, you cannot see me, you cannot out run me, you cannot find me, but im always right behind you.* -stab-
The Master Race Immortal Guides 33	Posted - 2014.09.24 03:08:00 - [15] - Quote Weapon alone is 70k isk /tear its cheaper to fly dropships lol New, delicious, Soylent green the miracle food of high-energy plankton gathered from the oceans of the world.
Dust User KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 671	Posted - 2014.09.24 03:24:00 - [16] - Quote Once upon a time I thought having ISK was going to mean something. I grinded alot of matches in cheap gear and have been in PC from the start to have money. Now that there's no point in saving it, don't you try telling me how to live my life. Proto suits and ADS all day in pubs.
SILENT GIANT FATHERS-AND-SONS 93	Posted - 2014.09.24 03:28:00 - [17] - Quote X7 lion wrote: SILENT GIANT wrote: Uhhhh. I know what you mean sorta. I get around it by using LP store. My average fit is 30-40k isk adv fits unless im out doing stupid stuff w 3k fits. When using those, even when I put the obj before the suit, I tend to still break even as long as I have a few decent team mates. When like yesterday, I had 14 sniping blueberrries and 1 sitting in his jeep on a rooftop enjoying the sunset. I gave up wasting 40k fits and screwed off myself. Nothing I can really control. Since shopping at the lp store I find most my proto fits costing the same range as adv, plus lp. Good thing about FW is most everyone tries. I know there are the team killers but 9 out of 10 games are fun and down to the wire. Problem for me is i lose more isk trying to get the lp in the first place that i cant sustain my self off it because im low on isk or suits. Well 90% of the time its the swarming of 3k militia stuff. Unless your dying more than 50-60 times a match your gonna go positive. If using 30-40k fits you can still get 6-8 deaths before going negative. Although sometimes rage/revenge juices start flowing and I forget to switch out, but thats my fault
Michael Arck 5740	Posted - 2014.09.24 03:28:00 - [18] - Quote I wouldn't mind a slight increase. Hell I've been working here for two years without a raise. LOL! And I don't even have health benefits! Archistrategos / The 7th Prime / Selah *Where the fear has gone there will be nothing....only I will remain
Vell0cet Vengeance Unbound Dark Taboo 2273	Posted - 2014.09.24 03:33:00 - [19] - Quote X7 lion wrote: One Eyed King wrote: X7 lion wrote: One Eyed King wrote: I run M-1 and M/1 scouts all the time, and end up in the top 3 a lot, too frequently at 1. I honestly don't get where you are coming from. I have proto suits, but don't feel the need to run it precisely because I would lose money every battle. Nor do they need to be run to be effective. PC? Absolutely. And you can make enough to justify proto. Pubs? Forget that. Too many newbros have a hard enough time for CCP to enable the vets to run proto. Bite the bullet and run a bunch of Ambushes in Starter fits, use that ISK to get your FW LP, and make some effective cheaper fits for your pubs skirmishes if you want to run positive. I just don't get the mentality that mercs should feel entitled to run proto gear in the pubs all the time. thing is i run a speed tanker gallente proto with nk's i do really well but my suit is 104k and the differnce between running speed tanker in proto and speed in advanced is astronomical, doing really well isnt enough to stay isk positive & its not fun to play in lower suits. That is a matter of perspective. I have lots of fun in my lower tier suits. If you define fun as pub stomping, then I am glad that you are not able to make all that money and stomp noobs with no SP into oblivion. This game has a hard enough time retaining new players, we shouldn't encourage anything that would further erode their experience. lets not start a fight here, doing so would defeat the point in bringing this up, in an ideal game world it would be efficant for every one to play in there best gear so every one can have fun & for the record i one shot any thing that isnt max heavy, The knives do not discriminate. I completely disagree. In an ideal world the economy wouldn't have been ruined by the old PC passive ISK faucet. You'd have to run cheap fits to afford the luxury of PRO occasionally when the situation calls for it. I've got over 80 mill ISK in the bank and I usually run my BPO STD suit with an ADV weapon. I rarely pull out the PRO stuff unless I'm pissed off at someone (which is dumb because I usually lose it in those situations). If everyone could run PRO all the time there'd be no point in having it. If anything, make PRO more expensive so pub stomping is less affordable. Best PvE idea ever!
Michael Arck 5741	Posted - 2014.09.24 03:37:00 - [20] - Quote Vell0cet wrote: If everyone could run PRO all the time there'd be no point in having it. If anything, make PRO more expensive so pub stomping is less affordable. I don't think increasing prototype cost would reduce pub stomping. Especially since there are people rolling in dinero heavy Archistrategos / The 7th Prime / Selah *Where the fear has gone there will be nothing....only I will remain

Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 9537	Posted - 2014.09.24 03:46:00 - [21] - Quote X7 lion wrote: ok so unless you farm in cheep suits, are apart of the 1% or simply dont die running well made fits isnt really possible with out some one with alot of isk backing you up, in my proto scout suit with my speed tanking nova knife set up my actions can litterly make or break the win & 9/10 that isnt a isk positive thing to do. (Before some one has a go at me saying but your not ment to run the best suits ect the devs have said they want us to, its why all suits in legion are going to be blueprint so shush) isk pay outs need to be increased across the board. (but lion they cant do that they havnt made there mind up about if isk will be transfused to legion) <- this is pointless since we dont have legion yet, but we do have dust. also the price of proto suits needs to be lowered, it dose not scale with the other suits & creates an artificial ecosystem of elitists & breeds spite and unnecessary hate. these are simple things that would improve the dust experience alot. Source: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2225094#post2225094 CCP Z wrote: Hello, And sorry for not giving any answer for quite a while, but as you can see in my other thread, Market has been my focus for the past couple of months (and a lot of secret other stuff of course!). Basically, a lot of good points were made during this discussion and I had some long chats regarding the Progression System. I looked at all the different proposal, our vision for what the Progression for Legion should be evolved a lot since Fanfest. So a lot of changes will be made from the presentation I made. Even though we want to change the way Progression was in DUST, we still want to keep some important mechanics you guys love. So for now, I will close this Thread and get back to you as soon as we have the Progression 2.0 Design. Thanks a lot for all your Feedback, it helps us a lot making the right choice for our game. Z Don't be so sure. PS: It's always ok to run around with starter fits even if they are not necessarily reflecting your play style. I'm a nova knifer as well but sometimes switch over to my starter or 'Skinweave' fits fitted with a BPO assault rifle so I can grind some ISK in Ambush. On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
John ShepardIII Murphys-Law 534	Posted - 2014.09.24 03:50:00 - [22] - Quote X7 lion wrote: ok so unless you farm in cheep suits, are apart of the 1% or simply dont die running well made fits isnt really possible with out some one with alot of isk backing you up, in my proto scout suit with my speed tanking nova knife set up my actions can litterly make or break the win & 9/10 that isnt a isk positive thing to do. (Before some one has a go at me saying but your not ment to run the best suits ect the devs have said they want us to, its why all suits in legion are going to be blueprint so shush) isk pay outs need to be increased across the board. (but lion they cant do that they havnt made there mind up about if isk will be transfused to legion) <- this is pointless since we dont have legion yet, but we do have dust. also the price of proto suits needs to be lowered, it dose not scale with the other suits & creates an artificial ecosystem of elitists & breeds spite and unnecessary hate. these are simple things that would improve the dust experience alot. Here's how you make isk... Don't die, run adv , or do lots of PC. (And win) The True Shepard.
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 9537	Posted - 2014.09.24 03:51:00 - [23] - Quote John ShepardIII wrote: X7 lion wrote: ok so unless you farm in cheep suits, are apart of the 1% or simply dont die running well made fits isnt really possible with out some one with alot of isk backing you up, in my proto scout suit with my speed tanking nova knife set up my actions can litterly make or break the win & 9/10 that isnt a isk positive thing to do. (Before some one has a go at me saying but your not ment to run the best suits ect the devs have said they want us to, its why all suits in legion are going to be blueprint so shush) isk pay outs need to be increased across the board. (but lion they cant do that they havnt made there mind up about if isk will be transfused to legion) <- this is pointless since we dont have legion yet, but we do have dust. also the price of proto suits needs to be lowered, it dose not scale with the other suits & creates an artificial ecosystem of elitists & breeds spite and unnecessary hate. these are simple things that would improve the dust experience alot. Here's how you make isk... Don't die, run adv , or do lots of PC. (And win) Or run a bunch of Ambushes in starter suits. On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
Bahirae Serugiusu Vendetta Reactionary Force 131	Posted - 2014.09.24 03:51:00 - [24] - Quote No one is making you run proto fits all the time I don't even think CCP meant for everyone to run proto fits 24/7. Honestly I think people should start a match in standard or advanced and escalate according to the conditions
John ShepardIII Murphys-Law 534	Posted - 2014.09.24 03:52:00 - [25] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: John ShepardIII wrote: X7 lion wrote: ok so unless you farm in cheep suits, are apart of the 1% or simply dont die running well made fits isnt really possible with out some one with alot of isk backing you up, in my proto scout suit with my speed tanking nova knife set up my actions can litterly make or break the win & 9/10 that isnt a isk positive thing to do. (Before some one has a go at me saying but your not ment to run the best suits ect the devs have said they want us to, its why all suits in legion are going to be blueprint so shush) isk pay outs need to be increased across the board. (but lion they cant do that they havnt made there mind up about if isk will be transfused to legion) <- this is pointless since we dont have legion yet, but we do have dust. also the price of proto suits needs to be lowered, it dose not scale with the other suits & creates an artificial ecosystem of elitists & breeds spite and unnecessary hate. these are simple things that would improve the dust experience alot. Here's how you make isk... Don't die, run adv , or do lots of PC. (And win) Or run a bunch of Ambushes in starter suits. I hate amb though The True Shepard.
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 9537	Posted - 2014.09.24 03:54:00 - [26] - Quote John ShepardIII wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: John ShepardIII wrote: X7 lion wrote: ok so unless you farm in cheep suits, are apart of the 1% or simply dont die running well made fits isnt really possible with out some one with alot of isk backing you up, in my proto scout suit with my speed tanking nova knife set up my actions can litterly make or break the win & 9/10 that isnt a isk positive thing to do. (Before some one has a go at me saying but your not ment to run the best suits ect the devs have said they want us to, its why all suits in legion are going to be blueprint so shush) isk pay outs need to be increased across the board. (but lion they cant do that they havnt made there mind up about if isk will be transfused to legion) <- this is pointless since we dont have legion yet, but we do have dust. also the price of proto suits needs to be lowered, it dose not scale with the other suits & creates an artificial ecosystem of elitists & breeds spite and unnecessary hate. these are simple things that would improve the dust experience alot. Here's how you make isk... Don't die, run adv , or do lots of PC. (And win) Or run a bunch of Ambushes in starter suits. I hate amb though I hate domination. On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
SLENDER M4N Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance 44	Posted - 2014.09.24 04:10:00 - [27] - Quote I used to have isk issues back in teh day. I would run a Militia medic with a rep tool and thats how i accumulated some isk. What really gave me an isk boost was when immnuto from WTF gave me 15 mil because i ran into him in the academy. And yes he was stomping the noobs on my team and i tried to stomp his team, but couldn't because he was everywhere i went. We had a chat and he's like "well here's some isk buddy." I've learned to not rage at this game anymore because it just doesn't matter anymore.
HYENAKILLER X WILL FIGHT ANYONE 855	Posted - 2014.09.24 04:17:00 - [28] - Quote X7 lion wrote: ok so unless you farm in cheep suits, are apart of the 1% or simply dont die running well made fits isnt really possible with out some one with alot of isk backing you up, in my proto scout suit with my speed tanking nova knife set up my actions can litterly make or break the win & 9/10 that isnt a isk positive thing to do. (Before some one has a go at me saying but your not ment to run the best suits ect the devs have said they want us to, its why all suits in legion are going to be blueprint so shush) isk pay outs need to be increased across the board. (but lion they cant do that they havnt made there mind up about if isk will be transfused to legion) <- this is pointless since we dont have legion yet, but we do have dust. also the price of proto suits needs to be lowered, it dose not scale with the other suits & creates an artificial ecosystem of elitists & breeds spite and unnecessary hate. these are simple things that would improve the dust experience alot. ______________________ after reading some of the reposes to this i have to ask how any one is in support of grinding for isk over having the suit you have the most fun with ready to go. Drop 50$ in aurum and wait for weapon/suit sale. I did and am incredibly happy with it. so much proto its crazy. 800 suits, 700 weapons. So much harm : ) You are better at being poisenous than I am at being good. Congradulations. Im still the better man.
CUSE TOWN333 KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 1489	Posted - 2014.09.24 06:38:00 - [29] - Quote X7 lion wrote: ok so unless you farm in cheep suits, are apart of the 1% or simply dont die running well made fits isnt really possible with out some one with alot of isk backing you up, in my proto scout suit with my speed tanking nova knife set up my actions can litterly make or break the win & 9/10 that isnt a isk positive thing to do. (Before some one has a go at me saying but your not ment to run the best suits ect the devs have said they want us to, its why all suits in legion are going to be blueprint so shush) isk pay outs need to be increased across the board. (but lion they cant do that they havnt made there mind up about if isk will be transfused to legion) <- this is pointless since we dont have legion yet, but we do have dust. also the price of proto suits needs to be lowered, it dose not scale with the other suits & creates an artificial ecosystem of elitists & breeds spite and unnecessary hate. these are simple things that would improve the dust experience alot. ______________________ after reading some of the reply's to this i have to ask how any one is in support of grinding for isk over having the suit you have the most fun with ready to go. The answer to all your problems is to simply get GOOD. KEQ diplomat/ intel /GC officer
sabre prime Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 561	Posted - 2014.09.24 06:39:00 - [30] - Quote LP store. Also don't use proto too much. Never had negative ISK efficiency because I use standard and advanced most of the time. The slow blade penetrates the shield.



Pages: [1] 2 :: one page
First page \| Previous page \| Next page \| Last page