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One Eyed King
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Posted - 2014.09.24 02:55:00 -
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I run M-1 and M/1 scouts all the time, and end up in the top 3 a lot, too frequently at 1.
I honestly don't get where you are coming from.
I have proto suits, but don't feel the need to run it precisely because I would lose money every battle. Nor do they need to be run to be effective.
PC? Absolutely. And you can make enough to justify proto.
Pubs? Forget that. Too many newbros have a hard enough time for CCP to enable the vets to run proto.
Bite the bullet and run a bunch of Ambushes in Starter fits, use that ISK to get your FW LP, and make some effective cheaper fits for your pubs skirmishes if you want to run positive.
I just don't get the mentality that mercs should feel entitled to run proto gear in the pubs all the time.
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One Eyed King
Land of the BIind
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Posted - 2014.09.24 03:01:00 -
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X7 lion wrote:One Eyed King wrote:I run M-1 and M/1 scouts all the time, and end up in the top 3 a lot, too frequently at 1.
I honestly don't get where you are coming from.
I have proto suits, but don't feel the need to run it precisely because I would lose money every battle. Nor do they need to be run to be effective.
PC? Absolutely. And you can make enough to justify proto.
Pubs? Forget that. Too many newbros have a hard enough time for CCP to enable the vets to run proto.
Bite the bullet and run a bunch of Ambushes in Starter fits, use that ISK to get your FW LP, and make some effective cheaper fits for your pubs skirmishes if you want to run positive.
I just don't get the mentality that mercs should feel entitled to run proto gear in the pubs all the time. thing is i run a speed tanker gallente proto with nk's i do really well but my suit is 104k and the differnce between running speed tanker in proto and speed in advanced is astronomical, doing really well isnt enough to stay isk positive & its not fun to play in lower suits.
That is a matter of perspective.
I have lots of fun in my lower tier suits.
If you define fun as pub stomping, then I am glad that you are not able to make all that money and stomp noobs with no SP into oblivion.
This game has a hard enough time retaining new players, we shouldn't encourage anything that would further erode their experience.
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One Eyed King
Land of the BIind
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Posted - 2014.09.24 19:27:00 -
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X7 lion wrote:A pay out increase for every one will just make the game experience better for every one, i really dont get why some people seem to be against it. Mexxx Dust-Slayer wrote:I think those that carry the team deserve the most profit, not those half-assing to make the profit. so many times iv won a game from a team of meh level players & i get the worst isk pay out ratio.
The reason being is Proto stomping.
To a degree I will agree with payouts for losing teams, especially those that stuck around the whole match.
What I don't agree with is the desire for more isk solely because people want to run more proto suits in pub matches.
New players can only really get into pub matches, maybe FW after a bit. They have to run starter suits, and are hindered by lack of passive skills even on those compete.
You are only looking at this from your perspective, because you would benefit.
It would not be fun for new players, who will now have lower starting isk because of alt farmers, to be forced to compete against veterans who not only have SP advantages, but will then make enough isk to proto stomp 24/7.
This is not a good idea.This does not help retain new players who already have too many disadvantages.
tl;dr Learn some empathy. This will not make the game more fun for everyone, just because it will make the game more fun for you.
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