Cheap tactics, putting spawns in buggy 3d meshes, having to spec into amar scout level 4 or 5 sacrificing 2 high with complex to stay alive. Having your team always filled with the noobs that dont team play or fail to realize there are no spawns left. Having the blue in your team play dust like its cod.

And when you want to simply have fun, there is always that scout !

Go solo in an assault suit. Assume everyone can see you and you can't see anyone on the tacnet.

If you can't deal with that scenario than it doesn't matter if there are scouts or heavies or whatever you want to call OP. Tactical/situational awareness if far superior than being dependent on some radar, it's your lack of it that makes you think scouts are OP.

Just saying ive been sacrificing the last week being the radar for the team so they can actually enjoy the game, but i do not, im so squishy i cant kill more than 5 guy in a game atm maybe 8 or 10. Opposite, there are plenty of 20 plus scouts, you have the numbers about scouts, you failed to set the assault as the real slayers !

No matter who you are or what you do, it's alway about what kills you.

Get good about killing them first.

Is OP David Mustane alt?

Then go play another game already if you're so tired of it. It's not that hard especially with the PS3 having so many better games to choose from nowadays.

Also, as a Minmatar scout with absolutely no EWAR bonus and running around with less than 200 EHP on my suit with knives and an SMG, I'm still enjoying myself. The trick is to stop trying to get kills and just have fun. Play for the sake of playing. Not for the sake of padding the KDR or boosting your WPs.

It sounds like you aren't dampening enough. If you are using a scout suit and are being hunted by enemy scouts, put some dampeners on.

If you aren't picking up enemy scouts on radar switch to a suit without precision enhancers. Your presence has forced enemy scouts to fit damps, they won't know you've switched suits.

If you are trying to fight scouts without a scout suit, sticking close to teammates is the key.

Thanks, thats what I did, proto galente, but always ended up shotgun'ed, so I am speccing into amar, at least I dont have to care being detected if I see them, its one way or the other, sadly even at level 3 there is still scouts I dont pick up, at what level will I be able to pick a gallente with 3 proto dampeners (they would still have 1 slots left for armor)...

I knew my post would at least attract one "get guud" guy. Please go troll else where this is an adult discussion.

About the squishiness, I agree I should probably never engage the enemy, but with the amar scout, the only thing you get is mostly assists ! I tried the shotgun cause to my dismay I still got a 100 HK4M to burn, its really not my weapon...

I knew my post would at least attract one "get guud" guy. Please go troll else where this is an adult discussion.

About the squishiness, I agree I should probably never engage the enemy, but with the amar scout, the only thing you get is mostly assists ! I tried the shotgun cause to my dismay I still got a 100 HK4M to burn, its really not my weapon...

No its the fact that the scout has the tacnet and I dont that's OP. He sees my direction from his second ring he can totally **** me from any direction, especially position himself 50m behind me with a rail rifle and god knows lots of em do it !

You must not PC much because PC is filled with hmg/forge heavies, some CR/RR commandos with swarms and vehicles, mostly ADS. most scouts in PC are either shotgun/RE scouts or they are flaking uplink/ anti uplink support.

I have seen teams with 8 heavies, 4 ads and the rest a mix of scouts and logis. This game is all about the burst hmg now.

You're running in a proto amar scout and you're being pwned by better players? How is that anyone else's fault except your own? GG.

I do remember when PC was just about slayer logis, then heavies, then tanks, then railrifle, then... CCP should look what is going on in PC, its the reflect of what is not working generally in the game, When PC becomes balanced, the game will definitly be a good game !

Happy im out of PC's BTW :)

Well, I have no problem the heavy kills alot with the burst, but the suit should cost the factor of how much it kills, I remember when tanks cost lots of ISK, I had no problem getting killed by them and had an objective of making the player loose alot by chasing it. They nerfed the vehicles so much that even with 3-4 mil SP scaterred in vehicle SP, I cant kill any heavies now, I even see heavy's going headstrong against me with forges not bothering for cover, now thats unbalanced. I do run all my tanks with secondary turrets and more peeps get in also which helps a bit but without secondary turrets heavies and most infantry just go by and dodge everything. I think CCP should make the Blaster and missile "Slightly" deadlier or maybe I need to sink 4-5 mil more in vehicles...

Im proficient with ADS but stopped using them, its a money pit and look forward to cheaper ADS. or loyalty store ADP, that could help !

its true that flying uplinks on top of structures is broken and needs to go in Legion. this is a major problem even in PC matches.

its also true that scouts are still the dominant force on the battlefield because literally the only negative trait of a scout is low HP.

but cloaks are about to get a delay between decloaking and firing nerf, as well as a shotgun nerf

and you definitely don't need to run precision on the Amarr scout. the whole point of having an innate bonus is that you don't need to use it all the time. if there are no dampened scouts on the field, don't run your precision fitting.

to be honest everyone didn't bother specing the amarr because he sacrifices too many slots for scan ability. what actually made the former caldari bonus op was the combination of range and precision. he only had to dedicate 2 slots to precision and 1 slot to range, to get the same effect that amarr will get using 4 or 5 slots now.

Cheap tactics, putting spawns in buggy 3d meshes, having to spec into amar scout level 4 or 5 sacrificing 2 high with complex to stay alive. Having your team always filled with the noobs that dont team play or fail to realize there are no spawns left. Having the blue in your team play dust like its cod.

And when you want to simply have fun, there is always that scout !

So you can't have fun running ewar scouts ( to squishy no hp ) but they sure can be sneaky, assaults can't see scouts but the weapon bonus is awesome, logis are only good for wp and support but can't kill well, and 1727 hp heavys are slow but that burst hmg melts clones before they can react and with two pocket logis is near invincible... ( don't forget snipers killing anything within 599m) Wait was this scout hate or you just stating facts?

Next year when I hit 70 million SP I'll show ya what op feels like. ( I'll bring 5 guys with 100 million )

My advice to you....... strafe.

Is OP David Mustane alt?

You're fine with the burst HMG but think that scouts are OP?


Please biomass.

yeah he is like those heavies who lose to std assault while using pro hmg becuz they suck at aiming

Cheap tactics, putting spawns in buggy 3d meshes, having to spec into amar scout level 4 or 5 sacrificing 2 high with complex to stay alive. Having your team always filled with the noobs that dont team play or fail to realize there are no spawns left. Having the blue in your team play dust like its cod.

And when you want to simply have fun, there is always that scout !

that is what the a-holes here are all about, how cheap can they be and how many bugs can they exploit. (which is cheating in any other game)

Everyone pretty much only will run what is OP, and will never run anything but.

that is what the a-holes here are all about, how cheap can they be and how many bugs can they exploit. (which is cheating in any other game)

Everyone pretty much only will run what is OP, and will never run anything but.

I think (and Im not alone) that the free to play is what attracts the worst kind of players. They complain more and make up the worst of any communities online. This one im afraid is not one of the best, but I think all of EVE players are the similar to the "get gud", "f u c k y a l l", this is what the game is about and cheap tactics are good. If its your case then go play Legion when it goes out, we'll laugh our asses thinking about how CCP screwed us on the playstation...

In any cases its bad PR for CCP, if all continues this path, enough people might consider the company unworthy of supporting with their money !

I don't think that F2P players are all that bad , that's kind of like stereotyping people ... I believe if people were actually required to pay for this game they would feel more privileged and this game would probably be in an even worst state and more would complain more about everything and you think that they complain now ..??.. most have went threw moments like you talk about but this game is so broken in so many areas but CCP is trying to fix that and hopefully they can stop taking bad advice ( if it's from the community or developers themselves ) and finally create the mechanics that will take this game over the top .

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