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BlazeXYZ
xCosmic Voidx
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
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Posted - 2014.09.08 01:52:00 -
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Kin Cat wrote:its true that flying uplinks on top of structures is broken and needs to go in Legion. this is a major problem even in PC matches.
its also true that scouts are still the dominant force on the battlefield because literally the only negative trait of a scout is low HP.
but cloaks are about to get a delay between decloaking and firing nerf, as well as a shotgun nerf
and you definitely don't need to run precision on the Amarr scout. the whole point of having an innate bonus is that you don't need to use it all the time. if there are no dampened scouts on the field, don't run your precision fitting.
to be honest everyone didn't bother specing the amarr because he sacrifices too many slots for scan ability. what actually made the former caldari bonus op was the combination of range and precision. he only had to dedicate 2 slots to precision and 1 slot to range, to get the same effect that amarr will get using 4 or 5 slots now.
Shotgun getting a nerf? Source plz.
The Blazing Intellect Machine
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HOWDIDHEKILLME
Dying to Reload
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Posted - 2014.09.08 01:53:00 -
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So you can't have fun running ewar scouts ( to squishy no hp ) but they sure can be sneaky, assaults can't see scouts but the weapon bonus is awesome, logis are only good for wp and support but can't kill well, and 1727 hp heavys are slow but that burst hmg melts clones before they can react and with two pocket logis is near invincible... ( don't forget snipers killing anything within 599m) Wait was this scout hate or you just stating facts?
Next year when I hit 70 million SP I'll show ya what op feels like. ( I'll bring 5 guys with 100 million )
Lonewolf till I die
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BlazeXYZ
xCosmic Voidx
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
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Posted - 2014.09.08 01:54:00 -
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Gelhad Thremyr wrote:Cheap tactics, putting spawns in buggy 3d meshes, having to spec into amar scout level 4 or 5 sacrificing 2 high with complex to stay alive. Having your team always filled with the noobs that dont team play or fail to realize there are no spawns left. Having the blue in your team play dust like its cod.
And when you want to simply have fun, there is always that scout !
My advice to you....... strafe.
The Blazing Intellect Machine
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HOWDIDHEKILLME
Dying to Reload
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Posted - 2014.09.08 01:55:00 -
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HOWDIDHEKILLME wrote:So you can't have fun running ewar scouts ( to squishy no hp ) but they sure can be sneaky, assaults can't see scouts but the weapon bonus is awesome, logis are only good for wp and support but can't kill well, and 1727 hp heavys are slow but that burst hmg melts clones before they can react and with two pocket logis is near invincible... ( don't forget snipers killing anything within 599m) Wait was this scout hate or you just stating facts?
Next year when I hit 70 million SP I'll show ya what op feels like. ( I'll bring 5 guys with 100 million )
Might be hard to convince them their elite dicks and they won't play with low sp scrubs
Lonewolf till I die
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Gelhad Thremyr
Never 2 Late
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Posted - 2014.09.08 02:02:00 -
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BlazeXYZ wrote:Gelhad Thremyr wrote:Cheap tactics, putting spawns in buggy 3d meshes, having to spec into amar scout level 4 or 5 sacrificing 2 high with complex to stay alive. Having your team always filled with the noobs that dont team play or fail to realize there are no spawns left. Having the blue in your team play dust like its cod.
And when you want to simply have fun, there is always that scout ! My advice to you....... strafe.
I do strafe, it works sometimes, but I always loose to KB/mouse strafers cause they dont use the same strafing mecanism as us because their input is not analog, its either 1 or 0 on the keyboard and the way CCP programmed the game they did not program a smooth curve cause it would have taken them 15 minutes more lol (I know I am a game developper). The stupid thing is that this is sooo intern level knowledge. I remember when me and my buddy LaGhoule started playing Dust how much we said the LAV physics MUST have been programmed by an intern....sadly driving an LAV is still ****** and non believable of 2 thousand years in the future... how well !
And for Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p, if the suit cost as much as a tank because it makes as much kills then yes, remember this game is about resource management, if you need to make 5 ambushes to buy a single suit (notwidthstanding those 2+ billions ISK veterans from the not so long PC era) then yes it is balanced !
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Faquira Bleuetta
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.09.08 02:11:00 -
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Zindorak wrote:Is OP David Mustane alt?
no ways this guys suck like over 9000 |
Faquira Bleuetta
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.09.08 02:14:00 -
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:Gelhad Thremyr wrote:Izlare Lenix wrote:You must not PC much because PC is filled with hmg/forge heavies, some CR/RR commandos with swarms and vehicles, mostly ADS. most scouts in PC are either shotgun/RE scouts or they are flaking uplink/ anti uplink support.
I have seen teams with 8 heavies, 4 ads and the rest a mix of scouts and logis. This game is all about the burst hmg now. I do remember when PC was just about slayer logis, then heavies, then tanks, then railrifle, then... CCP should look what is going on in PC, its the reflect of what is not working generally in the game, When PC becomes balanced, the game will definitly be a good game ! Happy im out of PC's BTW :) Well, I have no problem the heavy kills alot with the burst, but the suit should cost the factor of how much it kills, I remember when tanks cost lots of ISK, I had no problem getting killed by them and had an objective of making the player loose alot by chasing it. They nerfed the vehicles so much that even with 3-4 mil SP scaterred in vehicle SP, I cant kill any heavies now, I even see heavy's going headstrong against me with forges not bothering for cover, now thats unbalanced. I do run all my tanks with secondary turrets and more peeps get in also which helps a bit but without secondary turrets heavies and most infantry just go by and dodge everything. I think CCP should make the Blaster and missile "Slightly" deadlier or maybe I need to sink 4-5 mil more in vehicles... Im proficient with ADS but stopped using them, its a money pit and look forward to cheaper ADS. or loyalty store ADP, that could help ! You're fine with the burst HMG but think that scouts are OP?  Please biomass.
yeah he is like those heavies who lose to std assault while using pro hmg becuz they suck at aiming |
Gelhad Thremyr
Never 2 Late
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Posted - 2014.09.08 02:22:00 -
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Faquira Bleuetta wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:Gelhad Thremyr wrote:Izlare Lenix wrote:You must not PC much because PC is filled with hmg/forge heavies, some CR/RR commandos with swarms and vehicles, mostly ADS. most scouts in PC are either shotgun/RE scouts or they are flaking uplink/ anti uplink support.
I have seen teams with 8 heavies, 4 ads and the rest a mix of scouts and logis. This game is all about the burst hmg now. I do remember when PC was just about slayer logis, then heavies, then tanks, then railrifle, then... CCP should look what is going on in PC, its the reflect of what is not working generally in the game, When PC becomes balanced, the game will definitly be a good game ! Happy im out of PC's BTW :) Well, I have no problem the heavy kills alot with the burst, but the suit should cost the factor of how much it kills, I remember when tanks cost lots of ISK, I had no problem getting killed by them and had an objective of making the player loose alot by chasing it. They nerfed the vehicles so much that even with 3-4 mil SP scaterred in vehicle SP, I cant kill any heavies now, I even see heavy's going headstrong against me with forges not bothering for cover, now thats unbalanced. I do run all my tanks with secondary turrets and more peeps get in also which helps a bit but without secondary turrets heavies and most infantry just go by and dodge everything. I think CCP should make the Blaster and missile "Slightly" deadlier or maybe I need to sink 4-5 mil more in vehicles... Im proficient with ADS but stopped using them, its a money pit and look forward to cheaper ADS. or loyalty store ADP, that could help ! You're fine with the burst HMG but think that scouts are OP? Please biomass. yeah he is like those heavies who lose to std assault while using pro hmg becuz they suck at aiming
Its not sarcasm when its true, i equiped my dren with the adv burst hmg and yeah i suck more than most, then again im level 4 in hmg with one level in amar heavy lol ! I prefer my amar proto, at least like tiberius i used to run it before the respec sinc day 1 of the scrambler, now since peeps knows about the modded controller they all use it, such a shame cauz it was a good skill weapon and now it will turn to **** sic!
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Michael Arck
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Posted - 2014.09.08 03:20:00 -
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Most of the folks posting in this thread act like they werent saying the same thing not too long ago
Archistrategos
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing....only I will remain
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David Mustane
D3M3NT3D M1NDZ
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Posted - 2014.09.08 03:43:00 -
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Gelhad Thremyr wrote:Cheap tactics, putting spawns in buggy 3d meshes, having to spec into amar scout level 4 or 5 sacrificing 2 high with complex to stay alive. Having your team always filled with the noobs that dont team play or fail to realize there are no spawns left. Having the blue in your team play dust like its cod.
And when you want to simply have fun, there is always that scout !
that is what the a-holes here are all about, how cheap can they be and how many bugs can they exploit. (which is cheating in any other game)
Everyone pretty much only will run what is OP, and will never run anything but.
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Jack 3enimble
Vengeance Unbound
Dark Taboo
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Posted - 2014.09.08 03:46:00 -
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David Mustane wrote:Gelhad Thremyr wrote:Cheap tactics, putting spawns in buggy 3d meshes, having to spec into amar scout level 4 or 5 sacrificing 2 high with complex to stay alive. Having your team always filled with the noobs that dont team play or fail to realize there are no spawns left. Having the blue in your team play dust like its cod.
And when you want to simply have fun, there is always that scout ! that is what the a-holes here are all about, how cheap can they be and how many bugs can they exploit. (which is cheating in any other game) Everyone pretty much only will run what is OP, and will never run anything but.
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Gelhad Thremyr
Never 2 Late
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Posted - 2014.09.08 04:01:00 -
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David Mustane wrote:Gelhad Thremyr wrote:Cheap tactics, putting spawns in buggy 3d meshes, having to spec into amar scout level 4 or 5 sacrificing 2 high with complex to stay alive. Having your team always filled with the noobs that dont team play or fail to realize there are no spawns left. Having the blue in your team play dust like its cod.
And when you want to simply have fun, there is always that scout ! that is what the a-holes here are all about, how cheap can they be and how many bugs can they exploit. (which is cheating in any other game) Everyone pretty much only will run what is OP, and will never run anything but.
I think (and Im not alone) that the free to play is what attracts the worst kind of players. They complain more and make up the worst of any communities online. This one im afraid is not one of the best, but I think all of EVE players are the similar to the "get gud", "f u c k y a l l", this is what the game is about and cheap tactics are good. If its your case then go play Legion when it goes out, we'll laugh our asses thinking about how CCP screwed us on the playstation...
In any cases its bad PR for CCP, if all continues this path, enough people might consider the company unworthy of supporting with their money ! |
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Kyoudai Furinkazan
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Posted - 2014.09.08 04:56:00 -
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Gelhad Thremyr wrote:David Mustane wrote:Gelhad Thremyr wrote:Cheap tactics, putting spawns in buggy 3d meshes, having to spec into amar scout level 4 or 5 sacrificing 2 high with complex to stay alive. Having your team always filled with the noobs that dont team play or fail to realize there are no spawns left. Having the blue in your team play dust like its cod.
And when you want to simply have fun, there is always that scout ! that is what the a-holes here are all about, how cheap can they be and how many bugs can they exploit. (which is cheating in any other game) Everyone pretty much only will run what is OP, and will never run anything but. I think (and Im not alone) that the free to play is what attracts the worst kind of players. They complain more and make up the worst of any communities online. This one im afraid is not one of the best, but I think all of EVE players are the similar to the "get gud", "f u c k y a l l", this is what the game is about and cheap tactics are good. If its your case then go play Legion when it goes out, we'll laugh our asses thinking about how CCP screwed us on the playstation... In any cases its bad PR for CCP, if all continues this path, enough people might consider the company unworthy of supporting with their money !
I don't think that F2P players are all that bad , that's kind of like stereotyping people ... I believe if people were actually required to pay for this game they would feel more privileged and this game would probably be in an even worst state and more would complain more about everything and you think that they complain now ..??.. most have went threw moments like you talk about but this game is so broken in so many areas but CCP is trying to fix that and hopefully they can stop taking bad advice ( if it's from the community or developers themselves ) and finally create the mechanics that will take this game over the top .
I'm sure that's what you would like to see happen and like yourself , most here feel the same way and that's why a lot more players didn't leave after FF , like myself because we want to see that happen even though I wont play legion I want to finish what I started and help make this game the best it can be for others and enjoy it along the way .
I will be playing Destiny and The Division on my ps4 next year ( I'm waiting for Division to open my ps4 ) since CCP is taking Dust to the PGC .
A lot of the people who are upset are so because of some of the same reasons that you have mentioned among others as well .
Hopefully CCP will work out all of the bugs and get this show rolling .
Delta should come with a SP or infantry SP refund so that a campaign for one is not needed .
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Rusty Shallows
Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.09.08 20:35:00 -
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:Gelhad Thremyr wrote:David Mustane wrote:Gelhad Thremyr wrote:snip i]snip[/i] i]snip[/i] I don't think that F2P players are all that bad , that's kind of like stereotyping people ... I believe if people were actually required to pay for this game they would feel more privileged and this game would probably be in an even worst state and more would complain more about everything and you think that they complain now ..??.. most have went threw moments like you talk about but this game is so broken in so many areas but CCP is trying to fix that and hopefully they can stop taking bad advice ( if it's from the community or developers themselves ) and finally create the mechanics that will take this game over the top . snip
Even if Legion is a subscription game that is how the politics will work from the Eve side. I can predict for the better or worse but revenue sources is going to have impacts on how their FPS side progresses.
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