1. Don't listen to Atiim at all.



2. Fix shield collison on shields damage and dropships ramming
3. Reduce the physical effect of swarms (knocking ADS around like a fly)
3. You can buff swarms but reduce my ADS hull to 100k isk and reduce proto small turret price to 47k isk.
4. go through with your swarm buffs.

Because if you fit you're vehicle as a Glass object, you should die as easily as a glass object?

Right, and if your not using a minmatar commando to shoot down ads you shouldn't expect to kill them.
Shame on those pilots who want to use the dropship for what it was meant for, don't they know that the massive hole in their ship is just there for aesthetics? Interesting fits? No! Your just suppose to fit HP! God what's wrong with you?!

Sigh, well maybe in delta the Myron will stand somewhat of a chance so I can make an interesting fit. Sucks that the handling is so poor.

This must be a troll post.

9/10 - Good game.

Because if you fit you're vehicle as a Glass object, you should die as easily as a glass object?

HP Modules and Hardeners are meant to increase the survivability of a vehicle, and if you want survivability you should be forced to fit them. If AV was balanced around base eHP, then it'd be underpowered when someone does decide to fit for max survivability.

In the same sense, that if AV was balanced around base DPS, it'd be overpowered when someone stacks damage modifiers for max DPS. Every module increases how efficient something is at a certain role. If you want to be efficient in something, then use the module.

Honestly, the notion of not wanting to fit HP modules to survive is so stupid that even I have difficulty believing that someone said it. Though if you're willing to allow Medium Frames to survive an entire clip of XT-1s without putting on HP modules, I'd be happy to conform to your "balance ideal".


The only time a Swarm Launcher doesn't take skill is when you're fighting parked LAV or terri-bads. When fighting competent players, you have to fire and position your swarms in multiple ways, which is much harder (and more time consuming) than simply leading your target with a FG.

Though I fail to see how a 30s cooldown would be broken. You can evade the area, but you'll have to either find another engagement or return to the engagement and risk getting destroyed. This is called, a "wave of opportunity", which is CCP's design philosophy with vehicles.

Are you out of arguments

This sounds like the airborne equivalent of what caused logis to get nerfed - slayers abusing the suits by maxing out offense and defence and not using the equipment slots.

I'd propose the same solution for each - nerf the overall CPU/PG, and then bonus/rebate CPU/PG for filling the equipment/turret slots.

Fixed.

Are you out of arguments

Right, and if your not using a minmatar commando to shoot down ads you shouldn't expect to kill them.

Shame on those pilots who want to use the dropship for what it was meant for, don't they know that the massive hole in their ship is just there for aesthetics? Interesting fits? No! Your just suppose to fit HP! God what's wrong with you?!