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David Mustane
D3M3NT3D M1NDZ
69
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Posted - 2014.09.05 00:40:00 -
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Sad how many people must cheat in this game to keep a KdR or what have you.
I've seen so many abused mechanics its unreal. So to lump you all together is only fair.
90% of dust players abuse one mechinic or another, thus makes 90% of you cheaters.
Shotguns don't have to be aimed at you to hit you, people refuse to take any damage( lag or no lag), everyone cheats.
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David Mustane
D3M3NT3D M1NDZ
69
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Posted - 2014.09.05 00:41:00 -
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Jack 3enimble wrote:David Mustane wrote:Zindorak wrote:Cheating no. If the game lets you do it how is that cheating. I find sniping on the MCC very effective Yeah but when you can shoot out from a spot and not take damage it is cheating. Sit on the MCC, but I get to hit you if your up there. Make it so any1 on the MMC die instantly. You can do that from certain hillsides outside of the redline too genius
once again, exploiting a mechanic. Sad you are a cheater too then huh? |
SGT NOVA STAR
1.U.P
288
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Posted - 2014.09.05 00:47:00 -
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MrShooter01 wrote:Advice for those of you reading wondering what you can actually do in the meantime:
If you're getting killed by a sniper and cant tell where its coming from, try zooming in to the enemy MCC on the spawn screen and listen closely. You may actually be able to hear the sniper firing from the map screen. This works in other very high altitude areas too, as long as you can get the map camera close enough.
The MCC has a large, invisible hitbox that extends past the model which makes sniping confusing, even for the player abusing the MCC. The MCC sniper himself must be standing on the edge of the hitbox to be able to shoot over it. You may need to move to a higher position or further away from the MCC to get the correct angle, don't try to shoot until the target info is displaying the stats of a dropsuit. On some maps you can get close enough to snipe them with a forge gun, which will instantly end the life of a brick tanked sniper and terminate his clone. Otherwise use a tactical sniper rifle. The tactical sniper rifle is the ultimate counter-sniper, virtually guaranteed to land two headshots before the target can even react, giving it higher realistic damage over even a charge sniper rifle.
Don't have forge guns or sniper skills, or you tried and tried and hit nothing but the MCC? Buzz the enemy MCC with a militia dropship. You don't even have to land on it, get close enough where they can hear the engines and most will freak out and jump, at which point you can just fly away. You'll have wasted a couple minutes of their sniping time and some of their isk to get up there again (dropships explode on contact with the MCC, even when trying to gently land on it), and he'll spend the rest of the match worried about you trying again, lowering his efficiency.
Practice flying with the dropship enough and you can push them off the MCC yourself or even slam it down on top of him for a roadkill. If you want to get out to kill him, you'll want to use something that can quickly kill him in one shot, like a plasma cannon, because he will be standing right on the edge in a brick tanked suit ready to jump at the first sign of danger. you can land a dropship on the mcc cleanly. iv done it several times.
VAYU! I CHOOSE YOU!
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MrShooter01
Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State
722
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Posted - 2014.09.05 00:51:00 -
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SGT NOVA STAR wrote: you can land a dropship on the mcc cleanly. iv done it several times.
Seriously? Every time I've tried, it did some glitchy physics nonsense like instantly dropping to 0 hp or sliding off the MCC
I hope I wasn't just landing too hard all this time, that would be embarrassing |
Zindorak
1.U.P
801
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Posted - 2014.09.05 00:55:00 -
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Jack 3enimble wrote:David Mustane wrote:Zindorak wrote:Cheating no. If the game lets you do it how is that cheating. I find sniping on the MCC very effective Yeah but when you can shoot out from a spot and not take damage it is cheating. Sit on the MCC, but I get to hit you if your up there. Make it so any1 on the MMC die instantly. You can do that from certain hillsides outside of the redline too genius lol that was funny
Pokemon master!
CCP undo ScP nerf. It hurt my feering very bad
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Jathniel
G I A N T
1153
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Posted - 2014.09.05 01:40:00 -
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'Sniper can kill me, and I can't kill him. It's cheating.' lol
This sniper is just smart AND stupid, at the same time.
I can picture the OP now: *Hercule Satan voice* "HA HA HA! Stupid sniper shooting from the MCC! I'm gonna counter-snipe him! Stupid noob! HA HA HA!"
*fails to get counter-snipe due to bad positioning and glitchy MCC collision detection* "H-He's cheating! He's exploiting! He should be banned! How dare he position himself advantageously so that I can't hit him!"
Interestingly enough, in one of your screenshots it clearly shows that you have a clear line of fire, and in the others the sniper rifle is clearly telling you that you are going to hit the MCC (bottom right corner...). So is the sniper cheating? Or are you just ignorant, and not paying attention to the target data?
Even if you did hit him, you'd have over 1400 HP to chew through. The guy is running a Sentinel. That also means, he likely has no equipment or support, on the MCC with him.
Why the hell were you so fixated on this noob? He probably would have run out of ammo in a minute or two anyway. You're going to get sniped. Get over it. No amount of fussing will change that.
Set your goals high, and shoot for the moon; even if you miss you'll land amongst the stars.
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Heimdallr69
Nyain San General Tso's Alliance
3457
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Posted - 2014.09.05 02:01:00 -
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Want to know a secret.. You have to be higher than the mcc to counter snipe it.. You're welcome. Just like people said in my thread it's pathetic but part of the game.
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David Mustane
D3M3NT3D M1NDZ
69
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Posted - 2014.09.05 02:10:00 -
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Jathniel wrote:'Sniper can kill me, and I can't kill him. It's cheating.' lol
This sniper is just smart AND stupid, at the same time.
I can picture the OP now: *Hercule Satan voice* "HA HA HA! Stupid sniper shooting from the MCC! I'm gonna counter-snipe him! Stupid noob! HA HA HA!"
*fails to get counter-snipe due to bad positioning and glitchy MCC collision detection* "H-He's cheating! He's exploiting! He should be banned! How dare he position himself advantageously so that I can't hit him!"
Interestingly enough, in one of your screenshots it clearly shows that you have a clear line of fire, and in the others the sniper rifle is clearly telling you that you are going to hit the MCC (bottom right corner...). So is the sniper cheating? Or are you just ignorant, and not paying attention to the target data?
Even if you did hit him, you'd have over 1400 HP to chew through. The guy is running a Sentinel. That also means, he likely has no equipment or support, on the MCC with him.
Why the hell were you so fixated on this noob? He probably would have run out of ammo in a minute or two anyway. You're going to get sniped. Get over it. No amount of fussing will change that.
It is cheating, like everyone else does in this game. I'm sick of the down right exploitation that you ******* losers have to do in order to win
Cheaters like this should be IP/mac address banned. |
David Mustane
D3M3NT3D M1NDZ
69
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Posted - 2014.09.05 02:12:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:Want to know a secret.. You have to be higher than the mcc to counter snipe it.. You're welcome. Just like people said in my thread it's pathetic but part of the game.
physically impossible. The MCC is the tallest thing, so you can't get higher than him. You go on the MMC you should die. Its a cheating mechanic and you all know it, but since CCP refuses to do anything about it, you all think it is ok. |
Sooke Madique
New Eden Security Services New Eden Conglomerate
3
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Posted - 2014.09.05 03:19:00 -
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Zindorak wrote:Here's an idea take yo lazy butt with a DS or ADS and shoot that guy. Also you can't put Links on the MCC only hives Nope I have always been able to throw a link on top of the mcc back when I was noobing it up. The first one usually explodes but the second link almost always stayed. I no longer mcc snipe anymore after I realized how frowned upon it was when people sent me hate mail all the time but it was only a militia sniper rifle so the people who died deserved to for having a crap suit lol
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Sclompton Face-Smasher
uptown456
88
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Posted - 2014.09.05 03:22:00 -
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Thokk Nightshade wrote:David Mustane wrote:Thokk Nightshade wrote:I sniped someone off the top of the MCC today who was sitting up there like an idiot. You can still shoot them even if they are on top. Is it douchebaggery to do this? yes. Should it be eliminated? Absolutely. But I don't necessarily know if I would call it cheating. You had a sniper out, why didn't you just pick him off his pretty little perch? Cuz the ****** cheater was still on the MMC shield but could shoot out. It is exploiting a glitch and it is classifide as cheating. Not one bullet could hit him, but he could shoot anyone else. Bit this is the game, you all exploit one glitch to the next. Hilltops, shooting through and around corners,, explosions through solid walls, burry uplinks to be untouchable. But no, none of you cheat in any way. Not trying to be a smart ass, but are you sure you were hitting him? Like I said, there was someone doing the exact same thing earlier today and I sniped his ass right off the MCC without issue. If there is a glitch/exploitation, then you are right. He should be punished and I would classify that as cheating. I'm just asking because I came across the same issue and I WAS able to hit the guy perched on top of the MCC.
Changing position is just running to a new place and crouching no?
Playstyle: Scout, Passionate In-bred Sniper, Support, and Enemy finder
Weapon: Pro Shotty, Sniper, and Scrambler Rifle
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gabe ramsbottom
420 SMOKING KNIGHTS ACME Holding Conglomerate
0
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Posted - 2014.09.05 03:35:00 -
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Funny thing is that I was in a match against you today and saw you sniping. After you shot me I came back out with a sniper rifle and shot you at least 5 times with a proto rifle and nothing. I called out to my squad mate who was also sniping and he couldn't register a hit on you either. Perhaps there's something funny going on with snipping? |
Nothing Certain
Bioshock Rejects
1104
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Posted - 2014.09.05 03:58:00 -
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Thokk Nightshade wrote:I sniped someone off the top of the MCC today who was sitting up there like an idiot. You can still shoot them even if they are on top. Is it douchebaggery to do this? yes. Should it be eliminated? Absolutely. But I don't necessarily know if I would call it cheating. You had a sniper out, why didn't you just pick him off his pretty little perch?
I tried yesterday. He had a Sentinel suit and a Thale's. I had a 511. I couldn't get my hits to register for the first 10 shots. Then I finally moved to a position where the hit registered and I squezed off three quick shots. He then OHK me. I could have gone back and risked a Thale's myself but why would I?
Because, that's why.
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Jack 3enimble
Vengeance Unbound Dark Taboo
319
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Posted - 2014.09.05 04:07:00 -
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David Mustane wrote:Jack 3enimble wrote:David Mustane wrote:Zindorak wrote:Cheating no. If the game lets you do it how is that cheating. I find sniping on the MCC very effective Yeah but when you can shoot out from a spot and not take damage it is cheating. Sit on the MCC, but I get to hit you if your up there. Make it so any1 on the MMC die instantly. You can do that from certain hillsides outside of the redline too genius once again, exploiting a mechanic. Sad you are a cheater too then huh?
Dude according to you the whole playerbase but you is cheating. I have a serious question for you though. Reading all your whiny threads and signature style of complaining, do you look like Napoleon Dynamite? |
Kaze Eyrou
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
581
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Posted - 2014.09.05 04:20:00 -
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Jack 3enimble wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Go back to hiding in your redline with your Thales bud. This. Also, was that pic taken with a shoebox? I thought it was a toaster. Are shoeboxes getting better these days?
Closed Beta Vet // Logi Bro // @KazeEyrou
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Sclompton Face-Smasher
uptown456
88
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Posted - 2014.09.05 04:21:00 -
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Kaze Eyrou wrote:Jack 3enimble wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Go back to hiding in your redline with your Thales bud. This. Also, was that pic taken with a shoebox? I thought it was a toaster. Are shoeboxes getting better these days?
Only the Nike ones
Playstyle: Scout, Passionate In-bred Sniper, Support, and Enemy finder
Weapon: Pro Shotty, Sniper, and Scrambler Rifle
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Jack 3enimble
Vengeance Unbound Dark Taboo
323
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Posted - 2014.09.05 04:24:00 -
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Kaze Eyrou wrote:Jack 3enimble wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Go back to hiding in your redline with your Thales bud. This. Also, was that pic taken with a shoebox? I thought it was a toaster. Are shoeboxes getting better these days?
Better than the potato I often used
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Kaze Eyrou
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
581
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Posted - 2014.09.05 04:24:00 -
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Sclompton Face-Smasher wrote:Kaze Eyrou wrote:Jack 3enimble wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Go back to hiding in your redline with your Thales bud. This. Also, was that pic taken with a shoebox? I thought it was a toaster. Are shoeboxes getting better these days? Only the Nike ones Don't tell me they are re-releasing the Air Jordan line!
Closed Beta Vet // Logi Bro // @KazeEyrou
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Sclompton Face-Smasher
uptown456
88
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Posted - 2014.09.05 04:31:00 -
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Kaze Eyrou wrote:Sclompton Face-Smasher wrote:Kaze Eyrou wrote:Jack 3enimble wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Go back to hiding in your redline with your Thales bud. This. Also, was that pic taken with a shoebox? I thought it was a toaster. Are shoeboxes getting better these days? Only the Nike ones Don't tell me they are re-releasing the Air Jordan line! No no no it is now named "Space Jordan"
Playstyle: Scout, Passionate In-bred Sniper, Support, and Enemy finder
Weapon: Pro Shotty, Sniper, and Scrambler Rifle
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TechMechMeds
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
5484
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Posted - 2014.09.05 11:27:00 -
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David Mustane wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Go back to hiding in your redline with your Thales bud. until you faggots learn how to play without cheating, I see no problem with sitting back and putting one through your skull.
We don't cheat though.
the reason some of us don't take damage is because of a bit of lag and bad hit detection. Do you know how fing stupid you look?, seriously.
Maybe i'll just stand still and let people shoot me no problem right?.
that guy was abusing a glitch aye, but he was not cheating.
My hometown beat Manchester united.
Git gud man utd.
4-0
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Zindorak
1.U.P
814
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Posted - 2014.09.05 11:33:00 -
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On a scale of 1 to a Shotgun scout how scruby are you? Cuz you seem to complain about anything that kills you. Like i drive up to u in my LAV heavy and kill you then you call me a cheating ***. Do you call everything a cheating ***?
Pokemon master!
CCP undo ScP nerf. It hurt my feering very bad
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TechMechMeds
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
5484
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Posted - 2014.09.05 11:34:00 -
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Zindorak wrote:On a scale of 1 to a Shotgun scout how scruby are you? Cuz you seem to complain about anything that kills you. Like i drive up to u in my LAV heavy and kill you then you call me a cheating ***. Do you call everything a cheating ***?
It is literally an idiot or a kid who should learn to stfu.
My hometown beat Manchester united.
Git gud man utd.
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Zindorak
1.U.P
814
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Posted - 2014.09.05 11:35:00 -
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TechMechMeds wrote:Zindorak wrote:On a scale of 1 to a Shotgun scout how scruby are you? Cuz you seem to complain about anything that kills you. Like i drive up to u in my LAV heavy and kill you then you call me a cheating ***. Do you call everything a cheating ***? It is literally an idiot or a kid who should learn to stfu. lool
Pokemon master!
CCP undo ScP nerf. It hurt my feering very bad
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Jonny D Buelle
Mors Effera
327
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Posted - 2014.09.05 11:36:00 -
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You again! Now where did I put my sniper rifle...
Listen, you need to man the f**k up and stop being a little b****h. It seems every time YOU get taken out by a better sniper (including my infant daughter) or a counter-sniper you say they are cheating.
As for my new best friend who I havnt met chilling on the MCC...
Well all I have to say is Welcome to New Eden, enjoy your stay.
Legionhares Unite!
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Coleman Gray
Opus Arcana Covert Intervention
1182
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Posted - 2014.09.05 12:20:00 -
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It is cheating yes, but you.don't see it from his point of view. He has no gun game, so avoids confrontations, he obviously has some sort of inferiority complex that he needs a good KD/R on a free to play game to validate his existence in the real world and to top it of he has no imagination, camping on the MCC? Oh no ones done that before
If Preparation is half of the battle and knowing is the other half, Then there is no need to fight.
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TYCHUS MAXWELL
The Fun Police
600
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Posted - 2014.09.05 12:45:00 -
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David Mustane wrote:Alena Ventrallis wrote:People get their knickers in a bunch so easily.
The MCC has an invisible ceiling that you must move to the edge of in order to hit anything. otherwise your just shooting the roof of the MCC. If he can hit you, you can hit him. The only advantage MCC confers, beyond an excellent sniping position, is that you can be fooled into thinking you can hit him, when really your hitting the MCC. Moving away from the MCC will allow you to hit him. yeah and this guy found the one spot to exploit to make the shield take effect only one way, IN. I normally have a good shot on anyone that sits on the MCC. This guy was cheating,
Head glitching is pretty ****, people do this on certain parts of maps as well in cliff regions. I'm hoping the range nerf on snipers will minimize the abuse. |
PROPHET HELLSCREAM
UNSVER UNITED
6
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Posted - 2014.09.05 13:16:00 -
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Coleman Gray wrote:It is cheating yes, but you.don't see it from his point of view. He has no gun game, so avoids confrontations, he obviously has some sort of inferiority complex that he needs a good KD/R on a free to play game to validate his existence in the real world and to top it of he has no imagination, camping on the MCC? Oh no ones done that before
that is not cheating, still I won`t do it and i snipe MCC and rooftops, redline spots... snipers can get them... i don`t know how other snipers act but that is one place you can control from below and i play with the kalakiota or the ishukone no need to use thale`s!
Hobby: Headshot on cloaked units
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PROPHET HELLSCREAM
UNSVER UNITED
6
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Posted - 2014.09.05 13:31:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:Want to know a secret.. You have to be higher than the mcc to counter snipe it.. You're welcome. Just like people said in my thread it's pathetic but part of the game.
sorry but i only read now this...
you-Śre wrong you can kill them from below... i`m allways doing that if i find one on MCC... from below... and again i don`t know about other snipers dedicated but that MCC problem is no issue for me!!
Hobby: Headshot on cloaked units
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CommanderDawn
1st Battalion 1st Infantry
0
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Posted - 2014.09.05 13:32:00 -
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Shoot him the heck off it you only need a dropship to get there
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ADAM-OF-EVE
Dead Man's Game
1623
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Posted - 2014.09.05 16:18:00 -
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blow up mcc...problem solved :)
All Hail Legion
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